Post: #3601

The talent has been on the lower side during my usual part time daytime approaches. I didn't want to stoop to land whales or old hags despite loving tits.
When a chick looks hot enough for me I'll make my approach simple as that and chat her up as far as I can progress.

Asians from Asia are evergreen in big Australian cities followed by the seasonal tourist chicks especially Germans but some of them are as boring as rocks.

Today I approached a hot Middle Eastern chick. Chatted her up and I didn't know she was from Germany.
So many Asians and Germans love Australia.

Before she went off to class I had to get her Instagram.

There's always going to be issues on street cold approaches such as blowouts or a chick at the bus stop missing her bus as I'm not aware it's her bus.
IG names depending on their complexity are a hit or miss compared to mobile phone numbers.

I've also been trying different techniques or split testing as it's also called like going direct right away or later and I think it's better to go direct almost right away.
Cuts the bullshit and saves time if she wasn't interested at all otherwise she'd continue with the interaction.

Post: #3602

Was in a social event of one of my social circles.
It was crowded, but plenty of girls. Talent level was mediocre at best.

However
The music was extremely loud, so all my approaches (5 of them) went nowhere as I could not escalate with words, and contact was limited.
Went home empty handed.

Post: #3603

Was at the dentist.
The receptionist was a cute, but chubby girl. HB6 on a very good day.
Chatted her, and used the "Big brother"/"Mentor" angle. It is when I use my experience to analyze her behaviour and suggest ways to improve, while being sympathetic. It went well.
However, she smokes and stated that she is lazy. Told her she needs someone to look after her, and she said that her BF is begging her to change.
This was going nowhere, obviously.
Wished her well, and went on my way.

Post: #3604

I only approach if I'm really attracted to the girl or if the girl is fuckable and I have no other prospects that night.

Post: #3605

(04-11-2018 12:00 PM)firat113 Wrote:  I recently started day game cold approaching and i noticed a number of girls that reject you straight away either because they aren't interested, or they have a bf.

There was a girl earlier today that i approached, and she looked at me very confused, not sure what to say, she said "i don't know you, why did you approach me", i said, oh i just saw you looked cute and wanted to talk to you. She refused to tell me her name, and she was like "i have a boyfriend", i was like "i just asked for your name, not for you to undress haha". She said, "what are you trying to do?". And at this point i thought, man this girl is really boring and giving off a bitchy attitude. She doesn't even want to give her name, i will just move on. I said "oh come on, are you always this boring? i guess i will just give up then, have a nice day "

Did i handle the rejection well? How do you guys end a conversation with a girl blowing you off the water, or acting bitchy? Do you just walk away, or do you say something in return to her. Personally i just laugh it off and move on, if she's acting bitchy, she wasn't really worth my time anyway.

But could it be a shit test to see if i give up or i will do some fighting for her before i move on? Like she wants me to "prove myself" worthy. Let's say a situation where she doesn't actually have a bf, but she's just using it as an excuse. Do girls actually do shit like this. I think i read it somewhere here.

It happened to me before. I think if girls respond this way there are many possible reasons why:

1) She just had a bad day and she is not in the mood.
2) She still carries the 'I don't talk to strangers' advice that she had from her parents to her heart.
3) Overall her life sucks and she is an emotional vampire who just wants to see everyone else's life suck.
4) She is very uptight/paranoid and does not recognize fun social interactions with dangerous situations
5) Possibly traumatized before in her life and maybe you triggered something in her memory.
.....and many many other reasons.

Either way, when she meets you with a cold stare and is just dismissing you, don't try to change her attitude. Just skip to what you said last: 'Have a nice day' and move on. Your energy is not worth wasting for a nano-second more.

Post: #3606

Went to the bank today with my mom. On approaching the teller line, I saw a girl putting on lip bomb while making eye contact with me. I open her immediately when I got behind her in the teller line. The opening line was ‘ hey wrong place to put on lip bomb, you should do that at your home’ , continue the convo from that point on. She told me she was leaving for Canada for college. I number close her before she was called up to one of the tellers. She was kinda hesitant in giving me her number and instead came up with a Snapchat comeback but I reply ‘ I don’t use Snapchat that much’. She reply ‘ I don’t use WhatsApp that much’
Eventually she put her number in my phone. P
Planning to text her tonight and see what’s up

Post: #3607

Went to a social circle event.
Were a bit over 20 people.
We each introduced ourselves. Most were un-bangable.
Talked with one HB5. She confessed that she wants to change her work.
Told her we should meet to talk about it, but I take cash, retainer or match-ups.
She texted me, and we set a "meeting" for the next day.

We talked about it in a coffee shop, and then I told her she was talking nonsense and slapped her (asked permission first).
She burst into tears.
It seems she has been holding back on her having low self esteem (even though she is a C# programmer and has some achievements).
Did cold reading - Introvert, semi-shy, with solid values.
She opened up, but cried 2 more times during our conversation.

On the way to the car we talked, and I told her she needs to be spanked for talking nonsense. She blushed and we kissed. She is only 5"1 so I "lowered myself to her level". She loved it and then I picked her up. She was shocked, so I told her she doesn't get carried away enough. She agreed.

To be continued, although I just want to diversify my regular harem. Will have to see how she is in bed.

Post: #3608

today , i went to the grocery store. as I was walking along a HB7 Latina w/ nose piercing walks by me. I lock eyes with her and she smiles. She lines up at the checkout line, I'm behind her, but there is no time to talk to her as it is immediately her turn to at the cashier. I realize she will leave the store before I will get a chance to talk to her further. When there is a moment of pause in her transaction with the HB7 cashier, I say firmly, "wait for me, I want to ask you something" ..... she replies " im good and mutters something else, she pays her groceries, and walks off. I was going to ask her what she was doing after going shopping and invite her to hang out at my house then and there. the HB7 cashier was quite friendly toward me.

I also played UNO with a 11-year old boy, 20 year old girl and another dude on the train. the 11 year old was daring me and the other guy to ask out women in the train car, and constantly teasing the girl. we are born with game. somehow some of us get fucked up somehow growing up and we have to find our way again as adults.

(09-02-2018 05:56 AM)TheMaleBrain Wrote:  We talked about it in a coffee shop, and then I told her she was talking nonsense and slapped her (asked permission first).
She burst into tears.

On the way to the car we talked, and I told her she needs to be spanked for talking nonsense. She blushed and we kissed.

wow . so you just asked her "your talking nonsense .. can i slap you " and she said yes ? #addedtorepertoire
it sounds like she totally fell into your frame.

Post: #3609

I tried many openers in the last few years and approached, direct and indirect.

Indirect never worked for me. I live in a very dense area and people hurry somewhere all the time, so you have only few seconds to say what your intentions are.

I figured out, why to waste time on talking with someone when eventually you ask for a number and she replies that she is in a relationship.

How about just asking if she has someone from the beginning. If she answers that she has a bf, even if she has no bf, she is not interested anyway, so instead of wasting time, just ask what you really want know and then ask for a number.

Post: #3610

Funny approach today.. i walked up to a girl and she reminded me that I'd already spoken to her in the past.. a few weeks ago. It was kind of embarrassing but not the end of the world. (At least it was a different opener this time).

Post: #3611

(09-03-2018 11:06 PM)MarshalZhukov Wrote:  

(09-02-2018 05:56 AM)TheMaleBrain Wrote:  We talked about it in a coffee shop, and then I told her she was talking nonsense and slapped her (asked permission first).
She burst into tears.

On the way to the car we talked, and I told her she needs to be spanked for talking nonsense. She blushed and we kissed.

wow . so you just asked her "your talking nonsense .. can i slap you " and she said yes ? #addedtorepertoire
it sounds like she totally fell into your frame.

It was a little less direct, but in almost those words.
It was more along the line of:
"I want to make a point, and need to slap you, very gently"
And once I told her she was talking nonsense , I slapped her (gently).

We will see about the frame.

Post: #3612

I did my first daygame session in 3.5 months today (I took a break from daygame during the winter).

Approaches 1&2 didn't last very long. My rambling was pretty weak, I caught myself talking way too fast and I feel my vibe was just off in general. I'm just going to put this down to me being rusty from the time I took off daygame.

Approach 3 was a blonde German backpacker. I chatted to her for two or three minutes, but she just wasn't that into me. She ended up politely ejecting herself from the conversation. Oh well, these things happen.

I'll be doing more approaches later on in the week. I plan to really hit the daygame hard this spring/summer.

Post: #3613

Was at a business event, of a toast to Jewish New Year.
It was a 100 people event, all male, all professional. Did some networking, talked to guys and started engaging one of the female staff of the event.
She was a 5"8 HB7 (on a good day), semi nerdy with a good girl vibe.
We chitchat for a while, and she was very receptive, but then dropped the "I have a B/F for 7 years now" (She is 25).
Dropped some redpill on her, telling her to get marry soon.
She semi-agreed, so I told her that my advice is not free: " It's cash, retainer or match-ups"
She laughed, but that was the end of it.

Post: #3614

Two more approaches today. My vibe was a lot better than yesterday. Sleeping more than 4 hours definitely helps.

Approach #1: Asian girl in a supermarket. Used an elderly style opener in her and rambled for a bit. Dropped some bait about my recent overseas trip, but she didn't bite. Eventually I just ran out of things to say and I bailed on this set.

Approach #2: Street apprpached a hot Aussie brunette. Spoke to her for a minute, but then her boyfriend walked out if a nearby sushi shop and it got a bit awkward, haha.

Post: #3615

(09-05-2018 09:04 AM)Bizet Wrote:  Approach #1: Asian girl in a supermarket. Used an elderly style opener in her and rambled for a bit. Dropped some bait about my recent overseas trip, but she didn't bite. Eventually I just ran out of things to say and I bailed on this set.

Dude
Plant your feet and keep talking. Even ask her questions.
As long as one of you is not moving, it's still on.
If you run out of things to say go GALNAC or even ask for the number.

Post: #3616

(09-05-2018 02:27 PM)TheMaleBrain Wrote:  

(09-05-2018 09:04 AM)Bizet Wrote:  Approach #1: Asian girl in a supermarket. Used an elderly style opener in her and rambled for a bit. Dropped some bait about my recent overseas trip, but she didn't bite. Eventually I just ran out of things to say and I bailed on this set.

Dude
Plant your feet and keep talking. Even ask her questions.
As long as one of you is not moving, it's still on.
If you run out of things to say go GALNAC or even ask for the number.

TheMaleBrain's response is spot on. Just plow through until you close. I had a similar issue yesterday with a girl that was too shy, did not ask back any questions, she never really hooked. As Mystery said, you have to talk their ears off. It doesn't sound attractive but it's a good idea to practice it mainly for when the game is on and you need to be able to keep the convo going.

In the end, it is more effective to not waste time with girls who don't appear interested. But if you've already opened and stayed in set there's no harm in going for the close.

Post: #3617

Yesterday I went to festival just to see my favorite band playing and thought that I could meet there some girls. Anyway all really good were there with guy.

As Im walking away, I saw this cute girl at the bus stop. I walked past her to check her out, then turned back and approached. She claimed, this sometimes happens to her and she always refuses to talk, but she feels secure with me. Her bus was about to go, but she said that she can go by next. At the end, she missed maybe 2 buses and we had good talk. I gave her my facebook and in few minutes after she left, she added me and messaged. We are going for date tomorrow.

Post: #3618

Haven't been too active. Today I saw a cute, athletic Asian girl with a big ass at the gym doing smith machine stuff with resistance bands around her legs. Legitimately curious, I approached her--after staring for too long--and chatted her up.

me: Excuse me, I was curious. What do those bands do for you?
her: bands? you mean these?
me: yeah
her: they add resistance to the exercise.
me: I see. but how is that any different than just adding weight to the bar?
her: it works different muscle groups
me: huh. I've always seen people using them in the gym, but I've never really understood why.
her: here, do you want to try it on? (she is wearing a purple resistance band around his legs. she takes it off and hands it to me). Make sure you put it around the back of your knees. Yeah, now stand like you're going to squat. Wider. Wider. (I squat down and come back up)
me: it feels easier this way
her: really?
me: yeah, I feel like it supports my knees better. (I take the band off of my legs and hand it back to her) So adding these resistance bands helps you develop strength better.
her: yup, I think so (she shrugs)
me: I think you're playing dumb (smile)
her: ha! no I just look like I'm in shape, but I'm really pretty weak.
me: Do you think these bands will help---so I do Brazilian jiu-jitsu--do you think they would help me get stronger for that?
her: I mean, you already look pretty strong...But yeah I think so*
me: its funny, I used to do powerlifting for years, but when I'm on the mat in jiu-jitsu I feel like all that deadlifting and squatting doesn't help me that much.
her: really?
me: yeah. I think because its more technical than just raw strenght
her: I'm surprised to hear that, you look very strong. but maybe cali...calisthenics, I think its called? bodyweight exercises? would help more.
me: oh now you're definitely playing dumb. No way you don't know what calisthenics are!
her: haha I don't! blahblah
me: I haven't done calisthenics since I was in the military years ago
her: oh yeah? (maintains eye contact. I don't say anything else, waiting for her to add to the conversation. we maintain eye contact for a LONG time. I stand planted in front of her for what feels like 5 long seconds)
me: well, thank you for your wisdom.
her: you'r'e welcome. Alyssa.
me: checkmat (handshake, walk away)

Analysis: She made comments about me "looking strong" twice. I could have riffed on that and use some dry sarcastic humor like, "oh, I am not strong. this is just for show. these muscles are actually implants. they aren't real . seriously, touch. that's all silicone and plastic."

She was engaging in the conversation and let me try her resistance band. She wouldn't have done that without SOME level of openness to chatting and meeting someone new.

Where I failed was in not dropping much in the way of bait besides the one comment about jiu-jitsu. After reading Roosh's new (banned) book, I should have dropped some more things like, "where I come from, most people don't work out at all. I'm not used to the gym being this crowded."

Her eye contact was pretty good, and she maintained basically a staring contest with me at the end of the convo. She also introduced herself after I thanked her for her advice.

Final thoughts are that she was open, not unattracted and could have led to a better conversation if I would have remembered to do a few things different. Overall felt good for approaching a sexy girl that I felt a legitimate boner for.

Post: #3619

(09-11-2018 06:57 PM)Checkmat Wrote:  Haven't been too active. Today I saw a cute, athletic Asian girl with a big ass at the gym doing smith machine stuff with resistance bands around her legs. Legitimately curious, I approached her--after staring for too long--and chatted her up.

me: Excuse me, I was curious. What do those bands do for you?
her: bands? you mean these?
me: yeah
her: they add resistance to the exercise.
me: I see. but how is that any different than just adding weight to the bar?
her: it works different muscle groups
me: huh. I've always seen people using them in the gym, but I've never really understood why.
her: here, do you want to try it on? (she is wearing a purple resistance band around his legs. she takes it off and hands it to me). Make sure you put it around the back of your knees. Yeah, now stand like you're going to squat. Wider. Wider. (I squat down and come back up)
me: it feels easier this way
her: really?
me: yeah, I feel like it supports my knees better. (I take the band off of my legs and hand it back to her) So adding these resistance bands helps you develop strength better.
her: yup, I think so (she shrugs)
me: I think you're playing dumb (smile)
her: ha! no I just look like I'm in shape, but I'm really pretty weak.
me: Do you think these bands will help---so I do Brazilian jiu-jitsu--do you think they would help me get stronger for that?
her: I mean, you already look pretty strong...But yeah I think so*
me: its funny, I used to do powerlifting for years, but when I'm on the mat in jiu-jitsu I feel like all that deadlifting and squatting doesn't help me that much.
her: really?
me: yeah. I think because its more technical than just raw strenght
her: I'm surprised to hear that, you look very strong. but maybe cali...calisthenics, I think its called? bodyweight exercises? would help more.
me: oh now you're definitely playing dumb. No way you don't know what calisthenics are!
her: haha I don't! blahblah
me: I haven't done calisthenics since I was in the military years ago
her: oh yeah? (maintains eye contact. I don't say anything else, waiting for her to add to the conversation. we maintain eye contact for a LONG time. I stand planted in front of her for what feels like 5 long seconds)
me: well, thank you for your wisdom.
her: you'r'e welcome. Alyssa.
me: checkmat (handshake, walk away)

Analysis: She made comments about me "looking strong" twice. I could have riffed on that and use some dry sarcastic humor like, "oh, I am not strong. this is just for show. these muscles are actually implants. they aren't real . seriously, touch. that's all silicone and plastic."

She was engaging in the conversation and let me try her resistance band. She wouldn't have done that without SOME level of openness to chatting and meeting someone new.

Where I failed was in not dropping much in the way of bait besides the one comment about jiu-jitsu. After reading Roosh's new (banned) book, I should have dropped some more things like, "where I come from, most people don't work out at all. I'm not used to the gym being this crowded."

Her eye contact was pretty good, and she maintained basically a staring contest with me at the end of the convo. She also introduced herself after I thanked her for her advice.

Final thoughts are that she was open, not unattracted and could have led to a better conversation if I would have remembered to do a few things different. Overall felt good for approaching a sexy girl that I felt a legitimate boner for.

Dude
Why not take her number?

Post: #3620

(09-11-2018 06:57 PM)Checkmat Wrote:  Haven't been too active. Today I saw a cute, athletic Asian girl with a big ass at the gym doing smith machine stuff with resistance bands around her legs. Legitimately curious, I approached her--after staring for too long--and chatted her up.

me: Excuse me, I was curious. What do those bands do for you?
her: bands? you mean these?
me: yeah
her: they add resistance to the exercise.

- they add resistance to the exercise.
- I doubt they'd help you resist me.
- sound of dropped panties

Game, Set, Match.

Your biggest crime was to engage in run-of-the-mill-fact-based-chit-chat every other guys did before you. You should get sentenced to three months of celibacy

Post: #3621

(09-12-2018 06:26 AM)TheMaleBrain Wrote:  

(09-11-2018 06:57 PM)Checkmat Wrote:  Haven't been too active. Today I saw a cute, athletic Asian girl with a big ass at the gym doing smith machine stuff with resistance bands around her legs. Legitimately curious, I approached her--after staring for too long--and chatted her up.

me: Excuse me, I was curious. What do those bands do for you?
her: bands? you mean these?
me: yeah
her: they add resistance to the exercise.
me: I see. but how is that any different than just adding weight to the bar?
her: it works different muscle groups
me: huh. I've always seen people using them in the gym, but I've never really understood why.
her: here, do you want to try it on? (she is wearing a purple resistance band around his legs. she takes it off and hands it to me). Make sure you put it around the back of your knees. Yeah, now stand like you're going to squat. Wider. Wider. (I squat down and come back up)
me: it feels easier this way
her: really?
me: yeah, I feel like it supports my knees better. (I take the band off of my legs and hand it back to her) So adding these resistance bands helps you develop strength better.
her: yup, I think so (she shrugs)
me: I think you're playing dumb (smile)
her: ha! no I just look like I'm in shape, but I'm really pretty weak.
me: Do you think these bands will help---so I do Brazilian jiu-jitsu--do you think they would help me get stronger for that?
her: I mean, you already look pretty strong...But yeah I think so*
me: its funny, I used to do powerlifting for years, but when I'm on the mat in jiu-jitsu I feel like all that deadlifting and squatting doesn't help me that much.
her: really?
me: yeah. I think because its more technical than just raw strenght
her: I'm surprised to hear that, you look very strong. but maybe cali...calisthenics, I think its called? bodyweight exercises? would help more.
me: oh now you're definitely playing dumb. No way you don't know what calisthenics are!
her: haha I don't! blahblah
me: I haven't done calisthenics since I was in the military years ago
her: oh yeah? (maintains eye contact. I don't say anything else, waiting for her to add to the conversation. we maintain eye contact for a LONG time. I stand planted in front of her for what feels like 5 long seconds)
me: well, thank you for your wisdom.
her: you'r'e welcome. Alyssa.
me: checkmat (handshake, walk away)

Analysis: She made comments about me "looking strong" twice. I could have riffed on that and use some dry sarcastic humor like, "oh, I am not strong. this is just for show. these muscles are actually implants. they aren't real . seriously, touch. that's all silicone and plastic."

She was engaging in the conversation and let me try her resistance band. She wouldn't have done that without SOME level of openness to chatting and meeting someone new.

Where I failed was in not dropping much in the way of bait besides the one comment about jiu-jitsu. After reading Roosh's new (banned) book, I should have dropped some more things like, "where I come from, most people don't work out at all. I'm not used to the gym being this crowded."

Her eye contact was pretty good, and she maintained basically a staring contest with me at the end of the convo. She also introduced herself after I thanked her for her advice.

Final thoughts are that she was open, not unattracted and could have led to a better conversation if I would have remembered to do a few things different. Overall felt good for approaching a sexy girl that I felt a legitimate boner for.

Dude
Why not take her number?

This comes up a lot when I post my approaches. Roosh's day game method says that she must ask at least one personal question in the convo, otherwise the number will likely go nowhere. She showed hardly any interest at all, no?

(09-12-2018 06:55 AM)ksbms Wrote:  

(09-11-2018 06:57 PM)Checkmat Wrote:  Haven't been too active. Today I saw a cute, athletic Asian girl with a big ass at the gym doing smith machine stuff with resistance bands around her legs. Legitimately curious, I approached her--after staring for too long--and chatted her up.

me: Excuse me, I was curious. What do those bands do for you?
her: bands? you mean these?
me: yeah
her: they add resistance to the exercise.

- they add resistance to the exercise.
- I doubt they'd help you resist me.
- sound of dropped panties

Game, Set, Match.

Your biggest crime was to engage in run-of-the-mill-fact-based-chit-chat every other guys did before you. You should get sentenced to three months of celibacy

Again thinking of Roosh, you're right, this is elderly chit-chat. I have pulled and gotten laid from daygame approaches using this boring conversation method, but it seems to get a lot of criticism on the forum.

Post: #3622

(09-12-2018 09:36 AM)Checkmat Wrote:  [...]

Again thinking of Roosh, you're right, this is elderly chit-chat. I have pulled and gotten laid from daygame approaches using this boring conversation method, but it seems to get a lot of criticism on the forum.

Just to chip in, who cares if it's boring? You're not there to entertain. There are girls that respond better to boring, run-of-the-mill, interview-style game than witty banter. Usually very shy ones or ones that don't know the language very well.

Post: #3623

(09-12-2018 09:36 AM)Checkmat Wrote:  This comes up a lot when I post my approaches. Roosh's day game method says that she must ask at least one personal question in the convo, otherwise the number will likely go nowhere. She showed hardly any interest at all, no?

Roosh states that the odds are low. That is agreed.
But you were doing nice, and it went nowhere. Better try.

Post: #3624

I decided I must approach more. I have been approaching more like from time to time and one girl per day maximum. I didn´t see much sense in it, but now I probably found my reason "why". I am focusing only on high quality girls, that would be worth LTR by their look. For notches I´m using dating apps and nightgame.

Today was maybe the last hot day of this summer, so I decided to hit the city centre for icecream and some approaches.
From the beginning, I was waiting for the perfect situation (I must fight this, there´s not perfect situation). I saw this beautyful blonde walking along, so I came to her and went directly. She "has boyfriend".
Then I started to overthink a little bit and put myself into down spiral of my own thoughts. I wasted some time doing quite nothing and total lost some kind of vibe.
As I am walking down the main street, I saw my university PE teacher. He´s the most masculline guy I´ve ever met. He was walking with his 20 years younger sexy wife (4th wife). You can recognize this guy is near by the testosterone smell in the air.
This kind of motivated me, to do at least one another, otherwise I can´t go home. I approached the cutest girl of the day, anyway "she has boyfriend".
Then I am going to mall and see another pretty girl sitting on the bench. I passed her, then went back to her and just at the moment I get close to her, she picked up the call. This happened to me second time last week and it´s totally weird.

Today there were really cute girls around, that I didn´t approach. I must be better next time. Recent few approaches some days ago were succesful, so today wasn´t very good day.

Tips for next day:
- Set a minimum number of approaches that I must do before going home.
- Probably I should make some kind of 5 seconds rule. That means I will approach sooner, before I start to overthink the situation.

Post: #3625

(09-12-2018 09:36 AM)Checkmat Wrote:  This comes up a lot when I post my approaches. Roosh's day game method says that she must ask at least one personal question in the convo, otherwise the number will likely go nowhere. She showed hardly any interest at all, no?

I think you're misreading things a bit. Her personal question was her allowing you to wear an article/accessory that she was wearing and commenting on your strength two times. She also gave you her name at the end, and was likely waiting for more. I think you could have kept the conversation going, but sounds like you need more segues to date activities.

You could have talked about how you also go on hikes or something for conditioning. Use where you go hiking as bait, invite on said hike. Or something physically active. There was missed potential.