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(06-26-2018 04:04 PM)Repo Wrote:  
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(06-26-2018 03:47 PM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  There were posters here who had 10.000 posts and were gay as it turned out - they were only flushed out after it became more political. There were guys here who posted regularly who became wealthy as Mexican immigrants hiring countless illegals in their businesses. Of course they liked the US becoming more like Mexico - a wall is racist.

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Getting laid would be so much easier if I were gay. Gay men only need a gym and Grindr. If all it took to get laid with 18yo cuties was to not overeat and fire up Tinder, then the forum would not exist.

From what I understood it was Aliblabla - one of his last posts being the rainbow flag being raised by soldiers.
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I HAD a beef with long time forum member Fisto aka his new handle Duke Castile.

We had an argument in one of the politics threads (shocking, I know). I immediately realized I was over the top and PM'd the guy and requested we move on as men. He PM'd me back quickly and agreed. Since then, we have had many good conversations and as a matter of fact, he has even helped me be more positive. I'm looking forward to even meeting him soon.


Now, is this possible with everyone? I don't think so. It takes a certain constitution to step back, provide respect and move on as men. It's the hallmark of men that are red pill. I tried this with another forum member that I have had many arguments with. Not only did he NOT PM me back, but he made a sneaky post in a thread later implying that I PM'd him and threw in the towel. Like I said, some men are not socially capable of ending a beef like the few are.


Now, am I going to extend this courtesy to everyone that I have a beef with? Nah. It's easy to tell if someone deserves harsh treatment versus respect.

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(06-26-2018 05:36 PM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  From what I understood it was Aliblabla - one of his last posts being the rainbow flag being raised by soldiers.

I don't think that was a gay post. Aliblahba was a real life veteran and was upset by others using military images for unrelated political and gay purposes. But people can judge for themselves....here is the thread with his last 2 posts:

/thread-49607-page-2.html

As far as I remember Aliblahba was banned for sending upset messages to Roosh during Roosh's hectic time in Canada in 2015 and for various warnings he had on his record.
Roosh clarified the exact reasons for his banning in this thread:

/thread-49846.html?


I didn't know Aliblahba, but many who are still posting here met him personaly.
I'm sure many can vouch for him.
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(06-26-2018 05:36 PM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  Getting laid would be so much easier if I were gay. Gay men only need a gym and Grindr. If all it took to get laid with 18yo cuties was to not overeat and fire up Tinder, then the forum would not exist.

From what I understood it was Aliblabla - one of his last posts being the rainbow flag being raised by soldiers.

Have you met Ali?

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(06-26-2018 05:36 PM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  From what I understood it was Aliblabla - one of his last posts being the rainbow flag being raised by soldiers.

Ali-B is one of the straightest men to have ever walked the planet.
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Hey Ali, how ya been?

You want to know the only thing you can assume about a broken down old man? It's that he's a survivor.
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(06-26-2018 05:36 PM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  Getting laid would be so much easier if I were gay. Gay men only need a gym and Grindr. If all it took to get laid with 18yo cuties was to not overeat and fire up Tinder, then the forum would not exist.

From what I understood it was Aliblabla - one of his last posts being the rainbow flag being raised by soldiers.

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I'm not even gonna bother elaborating how wrong you are. But it goes to show you didn't say that to his face when he was still here and have no reps from meeting up.

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I have no trouble admitting if I was wrong. And I met some members, others who know the members I met personally. And again - it's a double standard here again when Gmanifesto or Excelsior met zero.
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(06-26-2018 06:21 PM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  I have no trouble admitting if I was wrong. And I met some members, others who know the members I met personally. And again - it's a double standard here again when Gmanifesto or Excelsior met zero.

No one has stepped forward to this day so again as I said I doubt it.

Secondly Excelsior has offered to meet members privately and people know where he's at.

But he's private about it and holds to his own. It's why we've never bashed on him for it/brought it up about him.

You on the other hand have taken no such initiative.

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(06-26-2018 06:00 PM)renotime Wrote:  Hey Ali, how ya been?

Hah! I wish. That dude was a legend. Hopefully still is.
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(06-26-2018 05:44 PM)Cobra Wrote:  Like I said, some men are not socially capable of ending a beef like the few are.


Now, am I going to extend this courtesy to everyone that I have a beef with? Nah. It's easy to tell if someone deserves harsh treatment versus respect.

Maybe the guy who didn't respond thought you deserved harsh treatment rather than respect. Judging others goes both ways.
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(06-26-2018 06:26 PM)Comte De St. Germain Wrote:  
(06-26-2018 06:21 PM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  I have no trouble admitting if I was wrong. And I met some members, others who know the members I met personally. And again - it's a double standard here again when Gmanifesto or Excelsior met zero.

No one has stepped forward to this day so again as I said I doubt it.

Secondly Excelsior has offered to meet members privately and people know where he's at.

But he's private about it and holds to his own. It's why we've never bashed on him for it/brought it up about him.

You on the other hand have taken no such initiative.

I have my own fucking reasons for doing what I do. Part of it is that I travel sometimes 80% of my time. I met with Bojangles and ThisisTrouble, they seldom post now. Teedub knows Bojangles.

I am no under legal obligation to meet up with anyone because you want to "back up my claims". And what claims are those? When I am wrong about Aliblabla, then fine - I'll admit it. But I am not concocting grand stories of conquest and wizard piloting - as I said - I am mostly a truth seeker wherever that may lead him. Try to fucking refute me on the issues instead of attacking me personally - also on issues you are wrong, but will likely claim otherwise in the next post.

Funny that you go into beef in a beef thread over some tangent comment I made - fine you address the issue, then instantly go personal.
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(06-26-2018 06:43 PM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  
(06-26-2018 06:26 PM)Comte De St. Germain Wrote:  
(06-26-2018 06:21 PM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  I have no trouble admitting if I was wrong. And I met some members, others who know the members I met personally. And again - it's a double standard here again when Gmanifesto or Excelsior met zero.

No one has stepped forward to this day so again as I said I doubt it.

Secondly Excelsior has offered to meet members privately and people know where he's at.

But he's private about it and holds to his own. It's why we've never bashed on him for it/brought it up about him.

You on the other hand have taken no such initiative.

I have my own fucking reasons for doing what I do. Part of it is that I travel sometimes 80% of my time. I met with Bojangles and ThisisTrouble, they seldom post now. Teedub knows Bojangles.

I am no under legal obligation to meet up with anyone because you want to "back up my claims". And what claims are those? When I am wrong about Aliblabla, then fine - I'll admit it. But I am not concocting grand stories of conquest and wizard piloting - as I said - I am mostly a truth seeker wherever that may lead him. Try to fucking refute me on the issues instead of attacking me personally - also on issues you are wrong, but will likely claim otherwise in the next post.

Funny that you go into beef in a beef thread over some tangent comment I made - fine you address the issue, then instantly go personal.

Those people met Zelcorpuan . Now that you are Simon_Stranglelight we are going to need you to re-meet these guys.

I'm sure you understand.

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(06-26-2018 06:36 PM)worldwidetraveler Wrote:  
(06-26-2018 05:44 PM)Cobra Wrote:  Like I said, some men are not socially capable of ending a beef like the few are.


Now, am I going to extend this courtesy to everyone that I have a beef with? Nah. It's easy to tell if someone deserves harsh treatment versus respect.

Maybe the guy who didn't respond thought you deserved harsh treatment rather than respect. Judging others goes both ways.

My point wasn't to focus on judgment, but rather the tools used for that judgment. For certain forum members that tool is openness and judgment based on other's character whereas for other members it's judgment based on superficial and often political ideologies. I hope this makes sense.

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< Yeah - I thought that I would have to re-meet those guys, but this time offer a stool sample as well. And the funny part is that - oh shocker - we did not talk politics at all, because the city was filled with lots of pretty girls, we were just having a good time and drinking beer. And I seriously don't care about race or tribe or even religion on an individual scale, the mass scale is something else in a given country, but I regularly don't meet up with 500.000 guys for beer or Cologne New Year celebrations.
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(06-26-2018 06:43 PM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  
(06-26-2018 06:26 PM)Comte De St. Germain Wrote:  
(06-26-2018 06:21 PM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  I have no trouble admitting if I was wrong. And I met some members, others who know the members I met personally. And again - it's a double standard here again when Gmanifesto or Excelsior met zero.

No one has stepped forward to this day so again as I said I doubt it.

Secondly Excelsior has offered to meet members privately and people know where he's at.

But he's private about it and holds to his own. It's why we've never bashed on him for it/brought it up about him.

You on the other hand have taken no such initiative.

I have my own fucking reasons for doing what I do. Part of it is that I travel sometimes 80% of my time. I met with Bojangles and ThisisTrouble, they seldom post now. Teedub knows Bojangles.

I am no under legal obligation to meet up with anyone because you want to "back up my claims". And what claims are those? When I am wrong about Aliblabla, then fine - I'll admit it. But I am not concocting grand stories of conquest and wizard piloting - as I said - I am mostly a truth seeker wherever that may lead him. Try to fucking refute me on the issues instead of attacking me personally - also on issues you are wrong, but will likely claim otherwise in the next post.

Funny that you go into beef in a beef thread over some tangent comment I made - fine you address the issue, then instantly go personal.

You called someone I'm friends with a faggot. That's really the only reason I responded to you. I just found it hilarious and insulting that you'd accuse someone you don't even know when you don't interact with the membership offline of something so big.

I don't pay attention to MOST of your posts.

And I assure you I'm further to the right than most people on this forum(think a certain strain of Monarchism). It's just my ideas are a bit "outdated" and probably not welcome on this forum(considering its support of Republican style governance) so I seldom share them.

Also I don't know what "issues" you stand for. You're not exactly running for office.

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I'll add an addendum onto my previous post that another point of contention amongst the membership these days is reputation, vetting, and how it relates to credibility.

It seems now more than ever a lot of older members put a great deal of emphasis on people who can be vouched for and have met other trustworthy members in real life. This sort of goes back to my point about how this community was originally built out of being a place of action. Men going out, doing things, meeting with eachother, and reporting back. A lot of the older crowd has a real "put your money where your mouth is" mentality. In their eyes, if you won't meet anyone then you clearly have something to hide that you don't want people here knowing about, and the primary suspicion being that you don't actually walk the walk.

Once again, this goes back to the armchair discussion types vs the mover and shaker types.

The rep thing has been an argument going on years now. I don't see that changing.
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< You should not take things personally if I was wrong about Ali. You put it straight and that was it and I said so, but you had to continue attacking me personally.

And I think that my "running for office" would coincide more with your monarchism - albeit more a meritocratic benevolent dictatorship with a meritocratic psychopath-screening succession system. But I doubt if anyone is running for office here - except for Jean Valjean and he has multiple screws loose.
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(06-26-2018 07:10 PM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  And I think that my "running for office" would coincide more with your monarchism - albeit more a meritocratic benevolent dictatorship with a meritocratic psychopath-screening succession system. But I doubt if anyone is running for office here - except for Jean Valjean and he has multiple screws loose.

Good to know, but I'm fairly realistic that nothing I believe in would ever be instituted or possible in the current climate or with the current state of affairs.

Which is where we'll probably differ and instead try to convert the masses(on this forum or elsewhere) or inform them as you please.

And that's where I stop talking about it on the forum and prefer over a cigar and a beer in hypothetical in person.

I've just committed myself to passing those ideas, ethics, and belief in tradition down to my eventual children instead.

Good talk. I'll stay in my lane and you can have yours until the off chance our interests align. I personally have no issue with anyone on here unless they insult my friends, threaten me, or bullshit ala NolaTestPilot.

And hint hint the only long standing public beef I have on this forum is a result of the above.

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(06-26-2018 07:10 PM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  < You should not take things personally if I was wrong about Ali. You put it straight and that was it and I said so, but you had to continue attacking me personally.

Wait, you seriously thought Ali was gay? Why can't a straight man cry in the shower because he didn't get his pizza? How dare you sir!
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(06-26-2018 06:43 PM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  
(06-26-2018 06:26 PM)Comte De St. Germain Wrote:  
(06-26-2018 06:21 PM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  I have no trouble admitting if I was wrong. And I met some members, others who know the members I met personally. And again - it's a double standard here again when Gmanifesto or Excelsior met zero.

No one has stepped forward to this day so again as I said I doubt it.

Secondly Excelsior has offered to meet members privately and people know where he's at.

But he's private about it and holds to his own. It's why we've never bashed on him for it/brought it up about him.

You on the other hand have taken no such initiative.

I have my own fucking reasons for doing what I do. Part of it is that I travel sometimes 80% of my time. I met with Bojangles and ThisisTrouble, they seldom post now. Teedub knows Bojangles.

I am no under legal obligation to meet up with anyone because you want to "back up my claims". And what claims are those? When I am wrong about Aliblabla, then fine - I'll admit it. But I am not concocting grand stories of conquest and wizard piloting - as I said - I am mostly a truth seeker wherever that may lead him. Try to fucking refute me on the issues instead of attacking me personally - also on issues you are wrong, but will likely claim otherwise in the next post.

Funny that you go into beef in a beef thread over some tangent comment I made - fine you address the issue, then instantly go personal.

It's just an odd claim to make about a well reputed, albeit former member.

Especially without having ever met the guy.

And for the record I don't like Ali and we don't talk anymore. Laugh

You want to know the only thing you can assume about a broken down old man? It's that he's a survivor.
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(06-25-2018 12:54 AM)the-dream Wrote:  The quality of discussion on RVF has gone downhill recently because certain members (usually well-repped, veteran members who got their reputation from their politics, SJW, feminism threads) keep hijacking the discussion with personal attacks on either the OP or a random replier, steering it off topic then not letting it go even once they have said their piece. At this point, other well meaning posters jump in to defend either side and the original topic of discussion is totally lost.

How can we prevent this and be more respectful to fellow members and keep the posts on topic? If a new member came on and posted like that, they would be banned straight away. It's ironic that these members get their clout on RVF for bashing feminism but are more bitchy than Jezebel.

I mentioned in another thread that to get back to our roots that we should end the rep system. Certain members are using it the same way white women use it to gain status. The forum should go back to our think tank roots otherwise we will degenerate into what Jezebel/Huffington Post/Librul sites are currently.

As for turning into /pol, I think /pol is less biased than this forum and as I mentioned before, /pol is logic incarnate.
06-26-2018 10:14 PM
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