Post: #1

I think it's a good idea to keep secrets when it comes to this. But at the same time, how can you play down your wealth while enjoying some of it? Should you ever tell your girlfriend / wife how much you really earn / have? What if you have her working for years and years, believing that your income is average, and then one day she finds out or you tell her that you had a lot more the whole time?

It's a bit of a headscratcher.

Post: #2

There's no reason to tell them. If you make 6 or 7 figures, just tell them you make $60k-80k or so. It's enough to be able to explain your behaviors without raising any red flags, unless you own a yacht or drive a Rolls Royce or something.

If she finds out, that's not your problem. It's not her money and not her business to know. Worst case scenario she breaks up with you, which would indicate that she probably wasn't worth staying with anyway.

Post: #3

You know the old rule about car dealers building about 20% gross into the price?

If you absolutely must talk numbers, be vague, but vaguely downplay it by about 20%. Enough that if you have a solid income, you'll still sound solid, but she'll also never know where the rest went. Not just to hide assets and juice your retirement savings, but so you can show off from time to time without straining from your usual lifestyle.

Unless we're talking big money, in which case it's truly none of her business anyway and you have too much to lose by revealing details.

Post: #4

My wife has no idea how much I make or own. She doesn’t need to know. She could theoretically check our tax returns but she doesn’t. Besides even if she looked at the number, she wouldn’t realize what it represents in terms of disposable income.

In practice, I spend 10-20% of my recurrent income on living the playboy life, which I think is reasonable considering the kids and her get most of the rest. When I get extra income I put some in her name and do not disclose the rest.

Post: #5

Pro Level Weath Hiding

A visit to a lawyer following a marriage separation has secured the financial position of one Gold Coast mother whose husband had secretly been hiding thousands of dollars from his wife.

Living day by day on a budget throughout her marriage, the woman’s finances were – as far as she knew – limited.

Speaking to news.com.au, the woman explained the frugality she had faced and disbelief when she was told she and her husband owned 15 properties and a number of bank accounts filled with thousands of dollars.

Of course the "family court" took it all off him and gave it her, which she spent on getting her hair done and sex tourism in Bali with the "Kuta Cowboys".

Post: #6

(06-08-2018 04:04 PM)Montrose Wrote:  My wife has no idea how much I make or own. She doesn’t need to know. She could theoretically check our tax returns but she doesn’t. Besides even if she looked at the number, she wouldn’t realize what it represents in terms of disposable income.

In practice, I spend 10-20% of my recurrent income on living the playboy life, which I think is reasonable considering the kids and her get most of the rest. When I get extra income I put some in her name and do not disclose the rest.

Hey mind doing a thread describing how you came to live this playboy lifestyle. I think it's the lifestyle MANY people who find roosh want to have.

Post: #7

I'm nowhere even near the vicinity of being wealthy, I'm a normal guy with a normal income and with only a couple of dollars saved to my name and still not even my mother knows exactly how much I make or how much I really have saved, why would you disclose that type of info to a gf or wife? I can't see anything a man can gain from doing that.

Post: #8

Yeah bitches say we are equal but when it comes to money they want you to provide. I wish I could have that level of rationalisation.
I made the mistake of saying how much I make and the girls immediately start making plans on your hard earned cash so no more.

Post: #9

I don't see how a girlfriend should know much about how much you make / own. Your wife should have transparency into these matter.

If you don't want to share everything with your wife, don't get married.

Post: #10

I told my GF how much I earned - I cant be bothered with smoke and mirrors.

If I were getting married then maybe it would be different.

I've always dated successful women so money was never an issue.

Post: #11

(06-09-2018 10:55 AM)flyinghorse Wrote:  I told my GF how much I earned - I cant be bothered with smoke and mirrors.

If I were getting married then maybe it would be different.

I've always dated successful women so money was never an issue.

Yeah you really need to get deeper into MGTOW and listen to some of their stories

Post: #12

Well since nobody with 'wealth' keeps it in their joint account for madam to see, you can hide it in many ways. You've got your current account and main credit card which she'll probably see at some point whether you like it or not, but since nobody keeps significant money there you can control what she sees.

The rest I presume will be tied up in stocks, shares, pension, ISAs, etc. Give a PO Box address for these accounts and pick up the mail/statements from there.

My mother still has no idea how much my father's worth after 40+ years - everything is taken care of and that's good enough for her. My wife has a vague idea of my monthly income from my main job, but the fingers-in-the-pies money goes elsewhere. She has no idea how much she'd get if I were to die, but I think she'd be pleasantly surprised. If you don't hear from me for a week you know she's found this thread...

Full disclosure is never a good idea with a woman about anything, let alone money. If she thinks you've got money to spend, she'll spend it alright. Plus, a man's wealth is an incentive to divorce further down the line.

Post: #13

The idea that one should be completely transparent with one’s spouse is plain stupid, and I weigh my words.

Post: #14

(06-09-2018 02:57 PM)Montrose Wrote:  The idea that one should be completely transparent with one’s spouse is plain stupid, and I weigh my words.

This is true. It's best to choose honesty whenever possible, but transparency is for idiots.

Regarding wealth sharing. Look, a lot of guys are irresponsible fools and because of that let their women control the money and pay the bills. I learned a long time ago that women HATE this shit.

Even women that are control freaks feel better and more secure when they have a man handling the finances that they can trust. My first wife was a super control freak. When I took over handling the money it was actually a huge stress relief for her. She would just ask if we can afford something and I would say yes or no. Eventually her spending got a little out of control and I got us into a bit of debt. At that point I had to start telling her NO. That lead to some big fights... but it's because she was an asshole... no other reason.

Currently, I give my wife some spending money every month for her to buy shit, feel independent and happy. Sometimes she buys lingerie, sometimes stuff for our daughter, sometimes a present for me. Every couple weeks I take her out and buy her a new dress or shoes or something. This seems to work. I give her very general ideas of where we are financially, but that's it. I honestly believe this is because she isn't American. In my experience the vast majority of American women are absolute cunts about money. Especially the upper middle class girls who grew up with daddy's credit card!!!

Post: #15

when I met my wife , I first told her that I was unemployed and had financial issues.
she reacted in a supportive way and didnt run away like 90% of others.
OF course I wasn't unemployed but now i am sure she is not a gold digger

Post: #16

Biggest mistake I ever made with my ex gf was giving in to telling her how much money I earnt.
After that it was always "why won't you buy this for me? This amount of money is nothing to you. You're so cheap."
She literally told me it "offended her" knowing how much I made but that I refused to spend it on her. What she really meant was refused to spend it on her how she wanted me to.
Bitch I'm not your ATM.

After that experience I'll never again tell a girl how much I earn or am worth.

Post: #17

My wife has no idea how much money I make or have. She is happy that I handle all financial matters, she has her budgets for groceries, clothing, household things and our business. She knows she works for me and helps build our financial freedom, and she's stress-free from not having to make financial decisions.

Post: #18

(06-09-2018 10:49 AM)Lance Blastoff Wrote:  I don't see how a girlfriend should know much about how much you make / own. Your wife should have transparency into these matter.

If you don't want to share everything with your wife, don't get married.

Disagree. That's pretty naive.

Unless your wife is the primary earner (a situation worthy of a separate discussion altogether) then all she should care about is the lifestyle you provide for her (and children if applicable).

She's either satisfied or she isn't.

Of course you should make provisions for her (and kids) via a will in the event of your demise. That's just basic responsibility

Post: #19

IMHO a solid relationship is built on trust and transparency. Once I got to know my other half we did have a discussion about money, at which point I simply showed her my wealth, income etc. She didn't think anything of it, but if one is supposed to build a life (houses, cars etc) then it requires a financial talk. We all know that couples fight about 1) money and 2) sex, usually in that order...

Just be transparent. If you can't share this stuff with your girl, I feel you might be in a bad relationship. If she's a bad catch, after the money talk, she either loses her shi* or she doesn't think anything of it. I think we all know which is better.

Post: #20

In case of a divorce in the first world if you have any sort of wealth and your wife isn't sub 70 IQ you are going to end up paying out. There's a little thing called disclosure you will have to make. You will not be able to hide this. Many wishful thinkers believe they'll escape this and just get their wife to take what she thinks is half. I can tell you, one day you will be in for a very rude surprise if you think that's how it works. All that will end up happening is you'll dick your lawyer around and then end up with catastrophic legal bills, pissed off judges and costs orders against you. Where you, yes you will end up paying for your wife's lawyer as well. A friend of mine played the game that way. He started out with 7 figures. He ended up bankrupt. Between his legal fees, legal costs awards against him and giving the required amount to his ex wife he ended up with bankrupt.

Speaking about incomes and swinging your dick based on how much income / wealth you have is a real western thing. Because of this behaviour we have sites like MillionaireMatch where verified millionaires get little emblems beside their names.

The reality is the question will probably not come up. I've never had a girl ask me how much I make. It's somewhat assumed by girls its high enough that they will be satisfied based on a number of factors.

My significant other has a general idea as to what I have. In my younger days I too would make comments regarding this stuff to try to impress. Now that I'm a bit older and wiser just let your lifestyle do the talking. Nothing says jackass like a guy on a date telling a girl he makes 100k, 200k etc a year.