Post: #301

(06-01-2018 06:40 PM)a beer is enough Wrote:  I have a tough time believing that Indians, even northern Indians, could pass as locals in places like Argentina and Brazil. As much as my fellow Indian bros LOVE to be mistaken for Mediterranean and Latino, I don't think the two look even remotely alike. Hell, I don't even think Persians and Indians look that alike either.

Now I speak as someone who has never been to Brazil so I could be dead wrong here but with my experiences with latinos here in the US, they could tell right off the bat that I was an Indian.

All that being said I do applaud the Indian guys that are running game in South America, I've had an epiphany that I could use some ethnic pussy in my life. I've mainly been with white girls int he past and I am looking to expand my reach a bit more. Recently matched with a light skin Indian girl on Bumble and got those digits, supposed to meet up this weekend.

For me to think that Brazilians would see an Indian guy and think he is one of them is a bit tough to believe. Indians have our own very distinct look that makes it tough for people to mistake us for other races but I am not as well traveled so what do I know.....

You'd be surprised -- I've been mistaken for a local in the Dominican Republic, Morocco, Egypt, and Ethiopia, and I'm a darker-skinned South Indian. In various parts of the world, I've been mistaken for every Middle Eastern ethnicity (anything from Palestinian to Tunisian to Iranian). Unless you look incredibly Dravidian (black skin, distinctive features), you'll pass for a local in large parts of the world.

The Middle Eastern people in the states are mostly Persian Jews, Armenian Christians, or Coptic Egyptians, many of whom are light skinned or white passing. Conversely, most Indian-Americans are Gujaratis, Tamils, and Telugus, which are some of the darkest ethnicities in India (many South Indians have those noticeably Dravidian features I talked about earlier). This is the only reason why people notice a significant physical difference between the two groups.

This is one thing that will actually play in your favor when you travel as an Indian guy. You may not get the same exotic factor as a white blonde guy, but you'll blend into the society and face a lot less hassle.

Post: #302

While that might be true, a lack of an exotic factor means you have more difficulties getting laid so in the context of this thread, doesn't really work to your favor!

Post: #303

Looked back on the past page and I have to say you guys have to stop putting WASP women on a fucking pedestal.

FFS, WASPy white women aren't some mythical creatures that exist for 21 years and then go away. All this shit about having to be in a fraternity or else you are SOL, its nonsense. I have to say that guys who make them out to be unattainable just lack the social know how and calibration to connect with these girls.

I admit that my post kind of opened a Pandora's Box of some kind but that was not my intention. What I was saying was that for the average Indian guy, scoring these kinds of women will be tough. Look at the average Indian guy in the US though, its not much to look at and I am not trying to be racist my own people. The average Indian guy is a mental neurotic wreck who cannot ever hope to connect on a social level with most higher status girls of any race.

What I was saying is that black women and darker skinned ethnic women tend to be a lot less pickier and will overlook a lot of flaws that women who are on the tougher category won't.

Somehow it diverts into this whole having to be in a fraternity in order to get white girls discussion, its not only toxic but it is simply untrue.

Here is the point about them plain and simple, they just care more about looks.

That is it.

These women care more about your looks than other kinds of women might, they want to have a sexy boyfriend to show off.

They are a bit more harsh on how you carry yourself while other kinds of women will overlook awkwardness.

It doesn't matter if you are in college or in your 30s, if you have the looks and cool factor going for you, you will do well. The issue is that most ethnic guys don't have that cool factor or status going for them which makes these women run for the hills. A lot of them are happy to get dicked down after their college days just like any other woman, they just need a sexy guy with a degree of cool factor going for them.

Make that Instagram and social media account appealing if that is what you want to do. Try to appear cool and higher status in their world and you'll do just fine. Be a regular with some status are the bars they go to and they'll be curious.

You might have to tweak your game a bit but these women aren't some unattainable fairies, they're women who just require a different approach. Other than that, its game as usual. They're not closed off, they want a fun cool guy and occasionally look to break free from their social circles.

Post: #304

^ beer, how many young non-fat WASP girls have you banged in North America from cold approach?

I live in Toronto, maybe the WASPiest big city in North America (vast majority of whites who are 3rd generation+ have British ancestry). These are some of the cliquiest people in the world - even “ethnic” white women (Jewish, European, white Latina) have a hard time breaking into their circles, let alone visible minorities.

WASP women see themselves as on top of the social hierarchy. From their view, ethnic is beneath them by default. The “ethnic” guys who have the most success with them from cold approach (outside of social circle) are Will Smith type clownish black guys (North American media halo).

How do you relay your charisma when a WASP woman refuses to engage with you at “Hello” at a bar/club or auto-swipes left on Tinder/Bumble on account of seeing an Indian face?

Having said that, there are five types of white women I’ve banged by running “whitewashed ethnic badboy pseudo-Will Smith black fraud” game (as a lean dark tan Sri Lankan):

- European/Jewish/ethnic white women
- “Social misfit”/nerdy WASP women
- Working class/small town white women
- Dark skinned fetishist white women (niche)
- 35+ white women

Post: #305

I don't have much experience in Toronto outside of a visit but from what Roosh himself has said and what I have heard, I have no intentions of having a lot of it. The city does have some fine as fuck brown women I would love to smash but too big on the white women there. All I can speak of is my experience in the USA and it has been no issue for me to get white girls here or well put together Indian guys to do it.

What I will propose is that from an outsider's view, Indian guys in Toronto did not seem as assimilated as I have seen in some American cities. I noticed a lot of them were acting thuggish and trying to copy black culture which made me cringe so I cannot fault white women there for feeling the same way.

That's Toronto though, you don't speak for us Indian guys in the US, the ones who are well put together are doing just fine bro.

Post: #306

(06-02-2018 12:44 AM)SLSlayer Wrote:  ^ beer, how many young non-fat WASP girls have you banged in North America from cold approach?

I live in Toronto, maybe the WASPiest big city in North America (vast majority of whites who are 3rd generation+ have British ancestry). These are some of the cliquiest people in the world - even “ethnic” white women (Jewish, European, white Latina) have a hard time breaking into their circles, let alone visible minorities.

WASP women see themselves as on top of the social hierarchy. From their view, ethnic is beneath them by default. The “ethnic” guys who have the most success with them from cold approach (outside of social circle) are Will Smith type clownish black guys (North American media halo).

How do you relay your charisma when a WASP woman refuses to engage with you at “Hello” at a bar/club or auto-swipes left on Tinder/Bumble on account of seeing an Indian face?

Having said that, there are five types of white women I’ve banged by running “whitewashed ethnic badboy pseudo-Will Smith black fraud” game (as a lean dark tan Sri Lankan):

- European/Jewish/ethnic white women
- “Social misfit”/nerdy WASP women
- Working class/small town white women
- Dark skinned fetishist white women (niche)
- 35+ white women

Toronto is nowhere close to the most Wasp city in North America, it's one of if not the most diverse city in the world.

Post: #307

Indian/brown guys doing night game cold approach in Toronto:





















Thoughts on their game?

Post: #308

^^^^
I noticed that no woman ever brought up the guys' race.

(06-01-2018 06:40 PM)a beer is enough Wrote:  I have a tough time believing that Indians, even northern Indians, could pass as locals in places like Argentina and Brazil. As much as my fellow Indian bros LOVE to be mistaken for Mediterranean and Latino, I don't think the two look even remotely alike. Hell, I don't even think Persians and Indians look that alike either.

Some do. To me Persians look like light skinned Punjabis. A lot of northern Indians and Pakistanis have Persian blood.

I was mistaken for an Arab by an Arab in Tokyo, but when I was in Morocco everyone assumed I was Indian.

Regarding middle eastern women not going for Indian men, well I've been to the wedding of a Persian woman and an Indian man. It happens but isn't very common. I think South Asian Muslim guys will have better luck.

Post: #309

(06-02-2018 06:14 PM)WalterBlack Wrote:  ^^^^
I noticed that no woman ever brought up the guys' race.

(06-01-2018 06:40 PM)a beer is enough Wrote:  I have a tough time believing that Indians, even northern Indians, could pass as locals in places like Argentina and Brazil. As much as my fellow Indian bros LOVE to be mistaken for Mediterranean and Latino, I don't think the two look even remotely alike. Hell, I don't even think Persians and Indians look that alike either.

Some do. To me Persians look like light skinned Punjabis. A lot of northern Indians and Pakistanis have Persian blood.

I was mistaken for an Arab by an Arab in Tokyo, but when I was in Morocco everyone assumed I was Indian.

Regarding middle eastern women not going for Indian men, well I've been to the wedding of a Persian woman and an Indian man. It happens but isn't very common. I think South Asian Muslim guys will have better luck.

Yeah if you're North Indian, it's easy to blend in almost anywhere - Brazil, Argentina, northern Africa, the Middle East, the baltics in southern Europe, etc etc...there are even countries where there are a ton of brown migrants (all over Africa, Ukraine, etc.) so you won't stand out much or might even be counted as a migrant

While it's great because you can be treated as a local (especially if you decide to settle down in another country), the exotic factor for quick bangs that black/white dudes get sometimes just isn't there

Just watch out when going to southern Europe though, they might think you're a Gypsy

Post: #310

That was the point I was making earlier, if the exotic factor for quick bangs isn't there I don't really see a reason to travel to a shithole country (no racist).

I am perfectly content settling in North America and see no reason to learn a brand new language and be an immigrant in a country with a lower quality of life if the hot and easy pussy isn't there. Then again I am in my 20s so on the younger end lol.

Speaking of that, is there anywhere in the world Indian guys do have that exotic factor working for them? I would think really blonde countries in Europe that have not been hit as hard with the refugee crisis.

Post: #311

Keeping it domestic here too.

I find that this whole Indian guy disadvantage phenomenon only exists in certain parts of the US and those areas have a very high Asian and brown population. One that comes to mind is San Francisco but I've also experienced some of it to a degree in the northeast. It is like places with high Asian and Indian populations turn into crabs in a bucket for Indian men running game. Other guys of your race were raised in restrictive immigrant households, have a ton of limiting beliefs they preach to the world about and then try to stop others of their race from doing well.

The whole phenomenon itself is hard to describe but it is like ethnic communities have a way of keeping their men on a leash. I've heard horror stories about dating interracial as an Indian guy in San Francisco because Asians there hate Indians and other brown people want to hold you back. It is no surprise when I hear posters talk about how awful Toronto is for brown guys, I don't think it has that much to do with the whites there.

The Indian community can be pretty damn aggressive about keeping their men on a leash. I've had the good fortune of not living in heavily Indian areas, closest was NYC and even then I would get the death stares from older Indians and other Indians when being out with girls. The worst part is when other Indian guys would take it as a signal to go after the girl after seeing her with me.

But I think there is some sort of a correlation between the amount of Indians in a city and how good a city is for Indian men. The more heavy the Indian community is in a city, the tougher it is for Indian guys to date anything outside of Indian girls.

Post: #312

(06-02-2018 07:53 PM)a beer is enough Wrote:  Keeping it domestic here too.

I find that this whole Indian guy disadvantage phenomenon only exists in certain parts of the US and those areas have a very high Asian and brown population. One that comes to mind is San Francisco but I've also experienced some of it to a degree in the northeast. It is like places with high Asian and Indian populations turn into crabs in a bucket for Indian men running game. Other guys of your race were raised in restrictive immigrant households, have a ton of limiting beliefs they preach to the world about and then try to stop others of their race from doing well.

The whole phenomenon itself is hard to describe but it is like ethnic communities have a way of keeping their men on a leash. I've heard horror stories about dating interracial as an Indian guy in San Francisco because Asians there hate Indians and other brown people want to hold you back. It is no surprise when I hear posters talk about how awful Toronto is for brown guys, I don't think it has that much to do with the whites there.

I've not heard of Asians hating Indians in California - why do you think that is? I have come across a few who say they hate FOBs, but are fine with western raised Indians.

(06-02-2018 07:53 PM)a beer is enough Wrote:  The Indian community can be pretty damn aggressive about keeping their men on a leash. I've had the good fortune of not living in heavily Indian areas, closest was NYC and even then I would get the death stares from older Indians and other Indians when being out with girls. The worst part is when other Indian guys would take it as a signal to go after the girl after seeing her with me.

But I think there is some sort of a correlation between the amount of Indians in a city and how good a city is for Indian men. The more heavy the Indian community is in a city, the tougher it is for Indian guys to date anything outside of Indian girls.

In London UK there's a shit ton of Indians and a lot of them date out. I guess things are different there. A lot of my US raised cousins are dating Mexican girls, and nobody gives a shit.

I honestly don't give a fuck about what the Indian community thinks. I'm also in Los Angeles, and outside of distant relatives I have never come across a member of my community. The nearest temple for me is nearly 400 miles away. I feel zero connection to any FOBs or south Indians here.

(06-02-2018 07:36 PM)a beer is enough Wrote:  Speaking of that, is there anywhere in the world Indian guys do have that exotic factor working for them? I would think really blonde countries in Europe that have not been hit as hard with the refugee crisis.

I think out of the way places in Eastern Europe could work, but there is the racism issue.

I've read articles about Indian TV shows getting very popular in Indonesia, so there may be some opportunities there.

I also think China might be good for an Indian guy, there's been a few Bollywood films which have been huge hits in China in the last few years.

I think Morocco might be a good bet, they like Indians and there's very few Indians there. You have to be careful of hookers though.

How about Mongolia? A Mongolian woman told me that a lot of Mongolians go to India to learn English.

Post: #313

I feel like being brown may give us a small exotic factor to a few certain places we go (i.e. Latin America, China, Japan, Eastern Europe), but in all of those countries, either a black/white traveler will easily have much more exotic factor than us

Looking black/white is an "extreme" color so they are bound to stand out in some countries (i.e. blacks in Sweden and Eastern Europe, whites in Colombia and Africa, etc.), whereas brown is always in the middle per say

For example, I had slight exotic value in Mexico City when walking around, but that was easily shadowed by all the white dudes when I went out that same night. Same thing happened in Colombia.

I did end up traveling to a 3rd tier, off the beaten path city in Ukraine some time ago and my exotic factor was insanely high. Stares by everyone.....but I really don't feel like traveling too far out to 2nd/3rd tier cites/shitholes so would be nice to hear of some 1st tier places

Post: #314

This topic is hilarious! I'm Indian too and I don't recognize myself in this inferiority complex other Indians have. I think this is something people have who are straight out of India.

I'm born and raised in Western Europe and my parents are from a former Dutch colony in South America. My ancestors went to this country during the 19th century and came from Northern India (mostly Bihar and UP, not sure if these people are different) This country is mixed with all kinds of people, but the dominant culture is Creole/African and for some reason these cultures are more aggressive. So they had to adapt to this hostile environment. I have heard stories about these first generation Indians and they were tough people. Not the types you should fuck with.

The country I was born and raised in is 100% Western (although the native guys are extremely beta) and I never felt inferior. Most of the racism I face actually comes from other immigrants, like the Muslim immigrants (Turks, Moroccans) and to a lesser extent the Negroid immigrants. Most white people are pretty open-minded and don't really have a negative bias towards Indians.

So I truly think this is something Indians face who are straight out of India (or whose parents are FOB's) and who don't know how to find their way in a Western society.

But I must say: every country with a high percentage of FOB Indians has a negative prejudice against Indians. Just look at the US or Australia. I think these FOB's fuck up the reputation of Indians with their creepy behaviour.

Post: #315

(06-02-2018 09:25 PM)Stix Wrote:  This topic is hilarious! I'm Indian too and I don't recognize myself in this inferiority complex other Indians have. I think this is something people have who are straight out of India.

I'm born and raised in Western Europe and my parents are from a former Dutch colony in South America. My ancestors went to this country during the 19th century and came from Northern India (mostly Bihar and UP, not sure if these people are different) This country is mixed with all kinds of people, but the dominant culture is Creole/African and for some reason these cultures are more aggressive. So they had to adapt to this hostile environment. I have heard stories about these first generation Indians and they were tough people. Not the types you should fuck with.

The country I was born and raised in is 100% Western (although the native guys are extremely beta) and I never felt inferior. Most of the racism I face actually comes from other immigrants, like the Muslim immigrants (Turks, Moroccans) and to a lesser extent the Negroid immigrants. Most white people are pretty open-minded and don't really have a negative bias towards Indians.

So I truly think this is something Indians face who are straight out of India (or whose parents are FOB's) and who don't know how to find their way in a Western society.

But I must say: every country with a high percentage of FOB Indians has a negative prejudice against Indians. Just look at the US or Australia. I think these FOB's fuck up the reputation of Indians with their creepy behaviour.

There's a huge difference in how Indians in Europe views themselves vs Indians brought up in the US.....the European Indians don't seem to have an inferiority complex, while American Indians do

And btw, you could have just said Suriname (South American dutch colony) in your post haha

Post: #316

(06-02-2018 09:25 PM)Stix Wrote:  This topic is hilarious! I'm Indian too and I don't recognize myself in this inferiority complex other Indians have. I think this is something people have who are straight out of India.

I'm born and raised in Western Europe and my parents are from a former Dutch colony in South America. My ancestors went to this country during the 19th century and came from Northern India (mostly Bihar and UP, not sure if these people are different) This country is mixed with all kinds of people, but the dominant culture is Creole/African and for some reason these cultures are more aggressive. So they had to adapt to this hostile environment. I have heard stories about these first generation Indians and they were tough people. Not the types you should fuck with.

The country I was born and raised in is 100% Western (although the native guys are extremely beta) and I never felt inferior. Most of the racism I face actually comes from other immigrants, like the Muslim immigrants (Turks, Moroccans) and to a lesser extent the Negroid immigrants. Most white people are pretty open-minded and don't really have a negative bias towards Indians.

So I truly think this is something Indians face who are straight out of India (or whose parents are FOB's) and who don't know how to find their way in a Western society.

But I must say: every country with a high percentage of FOB Indians has a negative prejudice against Indians. Just look at the US or Australia. I think these FOB's fuck up the reputation of Indians with their creepy behaviour.

Also, just curious....is that the general mindset of European-Indians? All women are open towards them like race doesn't matter? That's interesting, a lot of Indians here in the north coast of USA (even the Americanized ones) are always complaining haha

Post: #317

This thread just keeps delivering. I can't believe I never understood the trials of the Indian man. All my Indian friends were wrestlers/fighters, athletes, warriors--(tactical athletes), etc.

They had no problem with girls.

I think this is a personal improvement/confidence issue, not a race issue. I'd dare say, there is no such thing as "Indian Guy Game." Unless there is just some girl looking for an Indian.

Just be strong. Be firm in your actions. Don't take shit.

Post: #318

(06-02-2018 08:57 PM)Crash_Bandicoot Wrote:  I did end up traveling to a 3rd tier, off the beaten path city in Ukraine some time ago and my exotic factor was insanely high. Stares by everyone.....but I really don't feel like traveling too far out to 2nd/3rd tier cites/shitholes so would be nice to hear of some 1st tier places

Damn, goin to Kiev is rare enough for Indians on this forum, but here you are, saying you've been to a third tier city in Ukraine?! Wow what was that like, and wtf were you even doin there?

Post: #319

(06-02-2018 11:15 PM)jselysianeagle Wrote:  

(06-02-2018 08:57 PM)Crash_Bandicoot Wrote:  I did end up traveling to a 3rd tier, off the beaten path city in Ukraine some time ago and my exotic factor was insanely high. Stares by everyone.....but I really don't feel like traveling too far out to 2nd/3rd tier cites/shitholes so would be nice to hear of some 1st tier places

Damn, goin to Kiev is rare enough for Indians on this forum, but here you are, saying you've been to a third tier city in Ukraine?! Wow what was that like, and wtf were you even doin there?

haha yeah.

Kiev and the large Ukrainian cities are horrible for gaming for Indian/brown dudes because it is flooded by aggressive Turks. They are everywhere. Literally every corner there are thirsty Turks and Saudis being creepy as hell with women and hitting the brothels. Stay away. They are looked down upon in Ukraine for being sexually aggressive and causing crime.

I wanted to check out the culture in smaller towns/cities so I spent some time outside the city. No tourists, all local Ukrainians, no brown dudes and I stood out like a sore thumb - people walking by were staring at me like I was from another planet. Outside the big cities of Ukraine it's 100% white.

Did a few approaches just for fun but they didn't really go anywhere. Almost all, except a few, of my approaches were with women who didn't speak a lick of English and I don't know any Russian/Ukrainian

Post: #320

Walter,

I think it is a crabs in a bucket mentality taking over. Sexually frustrated guys want to see other guys who are somewhat like them fail. On that same token, some Asian guy growing up in a repressive household does not want to see another Asian guy or some Indian guy scoring hot girls of other races, the mentality becomes if I can't have it then no one can.

It isn't exactly race related either, I've generally found that I have an easier time getting along with guys who are getting laid and have women in their lives while incel-type of guys or those in bad relationships make for unpleasant people. Case in point is that Eliot Rodger kid who went crazy after seeing Asian, black and Indian guys getting the same kinds of women he was lusting for.

Speaking of Los Angeles, how are things there for brown guys?

I know the gender ratios are horrible but I have seen some insanely sexy ladies come out of that city!

Post: #321

I am still not buying how even Northern Indians can blend in anywhere in Europe, even Eastern Europe. IMO, there are distinct differences and most people even in the US can tell an Indian apart from a Mexican or an Arab/Persian. As for Eastern Europeans, I think they are definitely white and even the darker ones are white enough. Gypsies came from India for sure but I don't think they are the majority anywhere in Eastern Europe.

For the exotic factor, I am going to stick with saying blonde countries but the other thing I will note is that an Indian guy who doesn't fit the stereotype of the FOB with a gut and mustache is bound to stick out in a good way in some countries too.

I mean Indian features are so distinct in some cases that we do have our own exotic look going on.

Post: #322

(06-02-2018 11:41 PM)a beer is enough Wrote:  I am still not buying how even Northern Indians can blend in anywhere in Europe, even Eastern Europe. IMO, there are distinct differences and most people even in the US can tell an Indian apart from a Mexican or an Arab/Persian. As for Eastern Europeans, I think they are definitely white and even the darker ones are white enough. Gypsies came from India for sure but I don't think they are the majority anywhere in Eastern Europe.

For the exotic factor, I am going to stick with saying blonde countries but the other thing I will note is that an Indian guy who doesn't fit the stereotype of the FOB with a gut and mustache is bound to stick out in a good way in some countries too.

I mean Indian features are so distinct in some cases that we do have our own exotic look going on.

Northern Indians can blend in depending on the type - especially from the very northern parts.

have you traveled to latin america, the baltics in Europe, etc?

There are also tons of Romani (gypsies) roaming around southern Europe.

Post: #323

Alright.... Prolly the last time I'll post here because this is getting out of control, just don't provoke me, please.

I'm being completely honest and I respect all you guys.

This is complete nonsense.

There is no "Indian Guy Game." It's just plain, old fashioned Game. Learn it.

No one gives a shit about your "Indian Features." No one gives a shit about your "Exotic looks."

Just run normal game and, most importantly, LOOK NORMAL. ACT NORMAL.

Ya'll are tripping. "Indian Guy Game." Seriously? How about just "guy Game?" Don't dress like shit, have a good haircut, work on having a good body, wear some cologne, have confidence, and just own shit. What is all this "Indian guy" stuff?

You're making me think there is a whole another type of game I can't get into to. But when I look at this thread, it's the same shit. Has nothing to do with being Indian.

Ya'll need to learn "basic" game before you can start on this "advanced level Indian game" stuff. You are all being embarrassing.

Post: #324

You can come into this thread and post as much as you want my man!

I am primarily in the no excuses camp and think guys need to take responsibilities for their actions as well as maxing out their value. No matter where in the world you are at, look your best and be the best you can be on paper. Get the right style going, look good, be in great shape, don't act too out of the norm and have your fundamentals down right.

All that being said, this shit does fucking matter.

Even as someone who has had a great deal of success, there is a good reason I would not want to go to San Francisco as a single Indian guy given the reputation we have with local women there along with what I have heard. Location and culture does matter, I am very fortunate that I moved to NYC after college because I know for a fact a well put together Indian guy can get some serious poon in the city.

To say that it doesn't matter, even to me that is asinine. Women care because women give into social pressures. Now granted if there is a slight social pressure it is no issue but when there is serious social pressure to avoid certain races, it can become a tough task for guys of that race. I cannot even imagine trying to run night game or online game in Ukraine as an Indian guy given the reputation some brown men have there. As much as I hate it, I think this sort of stuff plays a role.

You can't fault any guy of any race for wanting to know some hotspots on the globe where it will be easier for him. I hate that social politics play a role but they do play a big enough role in the kinds of guys that girls go after.

I've been with girls from conservative parts of the US who would happily sleep with me or an Asian guy but wanted nothing to do with black guys because of the views their social circles, family and friends had. On the flip side of that my black friends have been with girls who love black men but want nothing to do with Asian guys of any kind because they were not seen as a cool enough race.

Post: #325

On a somewhat related note, I kind of see the whole brown guys chasing white girls dynamic as a chicken or egg type of ordeal.

Most of the well put together Indian players I knew, and I haven't known many, have primarily gone for white girls, in a couple of rare cases found a niche with black women or stuck with Indian girls. The most common scenario I noticed with the ones who were living the lifestyle of jumping girl to girl is that they were having their luck with white girls and for a while I kind of fit that mold too, these guys were whitewashed and sometimes played the token brown guy game. It is rare for me to see or hear from a brown player cleaning up with latin women or other kinds of ethnic women.

People will say it is because brown guys put white pussy on the pedestal so they chase it more but I wonder if it is more out of taking the path of least resistance. As much hate as Anglo and Northern European white women get, I've found that for well put together guys of any race they make exceptions. Even reading some old posts on this forum I already see how this parallels what I hear of how in Brazil, things like having blue eyes mean automatic lays while tanned skin and brown eyes are a detriment, reading posts on this thread have confirmed that too.

I am wondering if brown players recognize this and just remain content with chasing white girls who tend not to care too much about these things if the guy is exceptional. Could it be that the white worship among latin and ethnic women gets so bad to the point that a lot of brown guys don't really bother? You don't really hear of brown guys of any kind from a first world country going to a Brazil and trying to clean up, wonder if it is for a lack of trying or what.

The reason I made this post is because I would love to see brown players smashing some of the many sexy ethnic women out there. I mean sure, it can be a great validation boost to smash a pretty blonde but I am wondering if ethnic women in general are so self-hating that it is a waste of time.

I am still young, not as well traveled and looking to expand my taste from just white girls. From what I hear though, I wonder if it is really worth it because damn ethnic people are real fucking big on skin color!