Post: #26

The original Roseanne featured one of the first lesbian kisses on American prime-time television. It got lots of attention back then. It involved Sandra Bernhard (whose sexuality has always been up for debate) and Roseanne. The character played by Bernhard was gay, and her character also had a relationship with a character played by Morgan Fairchild (who is arguably the greatest femme fatale actress of all time).

I always found it interesting how the relationship between Dan and Roseanne was portrayed. It almost always ended up with Roseanne somehow outsmarting Dan.

Post: #27

This is Archie Bunker 2.0, where the main & most popular character is used as a straw man to knock down rightist positions by portraying them as ugly, and being proved wrong by the end of every episode.

The best thing you can say about the show is that it does get some concerns of working class America into the Overton window.

Post: #28

(05-17-2018 09:44 AM)Rotten Wrote:  This is Archie Bunker 2.0, where the main & most popular character is used as a straw man to knock down rightist positions by portraying them as ugly, and being proved wrong by the end of every episode.

The best thing you can say about the show is that it does get some concerns of working class America into the Overton window.

Yup - it's exactly like that - was not familiar with the show, but that is how good propaganda works in the beginning:









Then they have other shows which then make the other characters into the main ones when the needle has been pushed further.

In our context it's the transgenders and pedophiles which are only introduced in Family guy:





Then a decade or 2 later the trannie and pedophile gets their show. The same thing went on with Archie's Bunker in the 1970s and in the 1990s you had Will and Grace to breach new frontiers and normalize it further.

The truth is that they do it everywhere - in Dynasty they had the gay son and it was a major plot point.

Keep in mind that the leftist propaganda is not done, it has also a different meaning to what is advertised. The reason gay normalization was pushed was not because of deep caring for the gays - it was to atomize and destroy marriage/ normalize greater promiscuity and a highly different lifestyle. Only now come the effects through where gay marriages influence marriage and divorce laws for heterosexual couples or redefine parent-child relationships. Wait until the transgender, pedophile and bestiality crap go through the system.

Actresses like Roseanne are in that respect useful idiots and nothing else.

Post: #29

Roseanne has just been cancelled.

http://tvline.com/2018/05/29/roseanne-ca...versy-abc/

Post: #30

I don't care about this being cancelled.

It started good with the first episode, then steamrolled down hill and ended up being a yuge letdown.

Shitlorded in the first episode to get everyone's attention, then did nothing with the characters (other than her daughter). No progression, no pushing the envelope, no humour, and what was supposed to be funny was actually pretty sad by the end of the season.

Post: #31

(05-29-2018 01:00 PM)Hell_Is_Like_Newark Wrote:  Roseanne has just been cancelled.

http://tvline.com/2018/05/29/roseanne-ca...versy-abc/

Cancelled for Twitter comment criticized a blessed enricher:



That woman here who vowed to make the US Islamic:



How many Hollywood actors have been criticizing Trump and Trump supporters in the most vile way?

Post: #32

(05-29-2018 01:06 PM)Jones Wrote:  I don't care about this being cancelled.

It started good with the first episode, then steamrolled down hill and ended up being a yuge letdown.

Shitlorded in the first episode to get everyone's attention, then did nothing with the characters (other than her daughter). No progression, no pushing the envelope, no humour, and what was supposed to be funny was actually pretty sad by the end of the season.

I agree - aside from being a Trump supporter and vaguely for some kind of sane immigration it's far-left propaganda 24/7.

Still funny that she tanks the show with one careless tweet. Guess we know which privilege won over which.

Post: #33

Also funny that ABC would tank a show that has high ratings just for hitting a PC third-rail.

This shows how deeply polarized we are these days.

Post: #34

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How many Hollywood actors have been criticizing Trump and Trump supporters in the most vile way?
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Kathy griffinn?

Post: #35

She shouldn't have apologized. The game clearly isn't fair when right-wingers can get their lives destroyed over the most menial shit while lefties like Kathy Griffin can hold Trump's severed head on live TV and face little to no consequences. Roseanne should know better than to play by the rules when the game is clearly rigged. Why can't a celebrity involved in one of these "scandals" ever just say, "Fuck you, you're all a bunch of pussies" whenever they start taking heat? Actually, come to think of it, that did happen once, and the man ended up becoming POTUS.

Post: #36

She killed her career with the apology. Now the left is never going to let her live it down. On Twitter, it reads as follows:

"I apologize to Valerie Jarrett and to all Americans. I am truly sorry for making a bad joke about her politics and her looks. I should have known better. Forgive me-my joke was in bad taste."

Everything about this is wrong, from the pseudo-patriotic reference to "Americans" to her asking to be "forgiven."

Reality check: It was a joke, not an insult. The "offensiveness" was unintentional, not deliberate.

Roseanne's whole act was always in bad taste, so I don't know how she managed to even write that apology. Decades ago when she screwed up a rendition of "The Star Spangled Banner" before a ballgame, she grabbed her crotch as if to say "suck this!" when people started to boo. She should have done the same here.

Post: #37

That joke was stupid and rude, but she's a fucking idiot for caving in to these people and apologizing to them. And this is not some random person who doesn't know better - just a month ago she told them to "fuck off" over her being a Trump supporter, so she clearly knows how these things work!

Shameful and stupid. Just confirms that you should never rely on any celebrity for political support or inspiration.

Post: #38

Indeed. I was just about to say how I dunno why she bothered to tweet that lame crack to begin with, surely knowing that the resulting backlash would be monumental. Ultimately, as noted above, the apology was the worst of it.

Post: #39

The idiocy was in making the comment. There’s no denying Valerie Jarret is a piece of shit. But anytime you mention nonwhite persons and apes/monkeys in the same sentence, you know a shitstorm will ensue, and there’s a high likelihood of it costing you your job.

As for the apology, I don’t think it matters in the slightest. Despite the fact that it’s been the highest rated show on ABC all year, it goes against the narrative, and the execs will take any opportunity to kill it off. Remember Tim allen’s Show a year or two ago? That had great ratings and they cancelled it with no reason given, although he’s a known conservative.

Post: #40

I agree with porcheguy. Anyone who compares another human being to an ape in 2018 is basically asking to be fired.

There is no way Roseanne is so clueless that she didn't know that.

This is just the sort of thing that a lot of women do when they think they don't deserve something.

They blow it up.

Her inner dialogue might have been: "I had a good run the first time around despite being a disastrous human being and I certainly don't deserve a second one. What are you people doing?"

Post: #41

(05-29-2018 03:19 PM)porscheguy Wrote:  The idiocy was in making the comment. There’s no denying Valerie Jarret is a piece of shit. But anytime you mention nonwhite persons and apes/monkeys in the same sentence, you know a shitstorm will ensue, and there’s a high likelihood of it costing you your job.

Valerie isn't even black so I don't understand what the problem is.

Post: #42

(05-29-2018 03:19 PM)porscheguy Wrote:  The idiocy was in making the comment. There’s no denying Valerie Jarret is a piece of shit. But anytime you mention nonwhite persons and apes/monkeys in the same sentence, you know a shitstorm will ensue, and there’s a high likelihood of it costing you your job.

As for the apology, I don’t think it matters in the slightest. Despite the fact that it’s been the highest rated show on ABC all year, it goes against the narrative, and the execs will take any opportunity to kill it off. Remember Tim allen’s Show a year or two ago? That had great ratings and they cancelled it with no reason given, although he’s a known conservative.

Traverlkai claims in the Trump thread that it might be some clever plan to tarnish Trump - first get close to Trump, then unleash some crap.

Who knows.... the show was not particularly Trumpish or conservative.

Post: #43

Is she even black? Rachel Dolezal looks more black. She does look weird, though.

Post: #44

(05-29-2018 02:47 PM)Mess O. Wrote:  Indeed. I was just about to say how I dunno why she bothered to tweet that lame crack to begin with, surely knowing that the resulting backlash would be monumental. Ultimately, as noted above, the apology was the worst of it.

Comedians make their livings be edgy. Show was already getting weak by the end of the season, and she felt the need to be even edgier to raise her profile. It was a bad risk with the Trump target on her back, and she handled it badly too. Remember "SJWs always lie".

Post: #45

Doesn't Rosanne have multiple personality disorder?

https://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/sto...650&page=1

Post: #46

Quote:coyote ugly
As above, the man must gnaw off his arm to avoid waking the sleeping beast that he took home while drunk. I thought I might add what my dad calls "double coyote ugly" where the man gnaws off his other arm because he knows she'll be looking for a one armed man

This is why friends dont let friends Tweet under the influence. Bet she really regrets drinking and posting now. Think of all the other less fortunate people that are now unemployed because of her indiscretion. Pointlessly churlish

Post: #47

(05-29-2018 04:16 PM)RexImperator Wrote:  Is she even black? Rachel Dolezal looks more black. She does look weird, though.

She is Iranian-born Muslim - that's higher on the oppression pyramid. Never mind that her entire family consists of communists - that is probably why she got the job easier.

Post: #48

^ Jarrett is black (albeit light-skinned), and I think the "Muslim" thing was made up by the Macedonian content farms. Wiki says that her dad ran a hospital in Iran, hence why she was born there. It also says that her mum was 1/4th black.

Post: #49

(05-29-2018 03:36 PM)redonion Wrote:  

(05-29-2018 03:19 PM)porscheguy Wrote:  The idiocy was in making the comment. There’s no denying Valerie Jarret is a piece of shit. But anytime you mention nonwhite persons and apes/monkeys in the same sentence, you know a shitstorm will ensue, and there’s a high likelihood of it costing you your job.

Valerie isn't even black so I don't understand what the problem is.

It's the thought that counts.

Post: #50

(05-29-2018 04:26 PM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  This is why friends dont let friends Tweet under the influence. Bet she really regrets drinking and posting now. Think of all the other less fortunate people that are now unemployed because of her indiscretion. Pointlessly churlish

Yep, twitter is deadly for them drunk rash posts.