Post: #1101

(05-04-2018 12:56 PM)S3K2 Wrote:  

Quote:Please read this excerpt from the study you posted closely,
clearly you can see Tamoxifen (Nolvadex) is much more dangerous even in the short term and Toremifene is shown to be pretty benign in general.

"Adverse effects were encountered in 7 patients (12.3%) of each of the 2 groups. The side effects were fatigue, hot flush, WBC decrease, abnormal values in liver function tests, etc. in the NK 622 group and anorexia, nausea, eruption, feeling of warmth, sweating, dry mouth, dizziness, abnormal values in liver function tests, etc. in the TAM group. Administration was discontinued in one patient with eruption and another patient with abnormal values of liver function tests in the TAM group, while there was no such case in the NK 622 group. Including the discontinued cases, the side effects were moderate and reversible in both groups."

NK 622 group (Toremifene Citrate) was just fine and all benign/mild side effects were easily reversible after discontinuation.

Also I have previously posted studies on this forum showing all of the Long Term Health Benefits of Toremifene Citrate, cited from Pubmed studies, such as the one you posted above.

Toremifene Citrate is scientifically proven and also cited on Pubmed, to increase Bone Mineral Density, lower incidences of prostate cancer and heart arrhythmia in those with a history of proneness to it.

Why is this so hard to understand?

Agreed, tore is a bit safer than tamox but tour totally disreguarding the fact that it increases AST levels significantly. So much so that it is NOT recommended to take a serm to increase test other than synthetically straight test. Serm for sides. One would be taking more of a dosage than usual of torem for increasing test other than for sides control for pct or on cycle that you are promoting something potentally dangerous. Now if ur original post said to take torem over any other serm i would agree but you promoted taking it to raise test which at a dosage to do so would also create a possible liver narcrosis state.
Your also neglecting to tell people that tamox raises igf levels which torem does not. So if keeping muscle was a goal after a cycle, than one would benefit from tomox over torem. Agian, torem does not raise ast levels as much as clomid or tomox but at pct dosages i.e eod or so, it would not make a diffrence.

Why is this so hard to understand?

Absolute ramblings and you keep getting labels/terms mixed up.
Stop pretending to know anything about science, you can barely string a complete intelligible sentence or thought together.

You say here (very garbled I might add):
"Your also neglecting to tell people that tamox raises igf levels which torem does not. So if keeping muscle was a goal after a cycle, than one would benefit from tomox over torem."

You say Tamoxifen raises IGF-1 levels when it is commonly known among both Scientists and Bro-Scientists that Tamoxifen lowers IGF-1 Levels: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1421427

Continued (if any reader can stomach to decipher this):
"Agian, torem does not raise ast levels as much as clomid or tomox but at pct dosages i.e eod or so, it would not make a diffrence."

Right here you mention Toremifene Citrate does not raise AST Levels as much as Clomiphene or Tamoxifene.

There are endless internet forum blood works you can pull up that show that Toremifene Citrate even at moderate to low doses (30mg ED) works great PCT.

Also, your understanding of how detrimental elevated Liver AST impacts your health is borderline retarded at best.

The most cutting edge researcher on Liver and Steroidology is quoted below:
"Oxandrolone (Anavar), in fact, is used to heal the livers of chronic alcoholics with cirrhosis. People confuse elevated liver enzymes with liver damage and this is a misconception that even liver specialists have. There is no liver damage without elevated CRP (C-reactive protein).

Let me say that again: THERE IS NO EVIDENCE OF LIVER DAMAGE WITHOUT ELEVATED LIVER ENZYMES *AND* ELEVATED CRP!

Elevated liver enzymes only show that the liver is working harder -- that is all. Saying that elevated liver enzymes are indicative of liver damage is like saying an elevated heart rate is indicative of heart damage. Total nonsense."

Post: #1102

So I recently had a blood test done with my GP, and have the results in my hands. The result regarding testosterone was 22.50 nmol/L. Using the converter that Cleanslate posted, leaves me with a result of 635 ng/dl. From the research I’ve undertaken, it seems as though this is in the lower end of what’s acceptable. Correct?

I lift 3 times a week, run few times a week, box 2/3 times a week and supplement with zinc and get around 8 hours sleep most nights. I’m 6’3, just shy of 210 and carry a little bit more fat around my waist than I would like

Post: #1103

I've decided to close down my TRT site, and I explain why in my last blog post.

6 months ago, I stopped TRT with a 6-week PCT and I feel fine. I honestly don't feel any different than before I stopped. So I don't think I really need it now, not since I moved to SEA and started eating clean and lifting more.

I'm pretty sure I'll get back on TRT when I'm in my mid 40s or getting closer to 50, but for now my body can cruise on its own for another few to several years, provided I don't let myself go.

I enjoyed helping others during my TRT journey, but these days, there are TRT clinics readily available and men don't have to look too hard to find them.

Post: #1104

(05-07-2018 03:11 AM)CleanSlate Wrote:  I've decided to close down my TRT site, and I explain why in my last blog post.

6 months ago, I stopped TRT with a 6-week PCT and I feel fine. I honestly don't feel any different than before I stopped. So I don't think I really need it now, not since I moved to SEA and started eating clean and lifting more.

I'm pretty sure I'll get back on TRT when I'm in my mid 40s or getting closer to 50, but for now my body can cruise on its own for another few to several years, provided I don't let myself go.

I enjoyed helping others during my TRT journey, but these days, there are TRT clinics readily available and men don't have to look too hard to find them.

What protocol did you use for PCT? How long were you on TRT prior?

I ask because, I tried coming off TRT before and used an HCG/fertility restart. Basically mega-dosing HCG. My fertility came back and I was a beast for a few months. Then everything went to shit. Back on it for life now.

Post: #1105

(05-08-2018 08:21 PM)Checkmat Wrote:  

(05-07-2018 03:11 AM)CleanSlate Wrote:  I've decided to close down my TRT site, and I explain why in my last blog post.

6 months ago, I stopped TRT with a 6-week PCT and I feel fine. I honestly don't feel any different than before I stopped. So I don't think I really need it now, not since I moved to SEA and started eating clean and lifting more.

I'm pretty sure I'll get back on TRT when I'm in my mid 40s or getting closer to 50, but for now my body can cruise on its own for another few to several years, provided I don't let myself go.

I enjoyed helping others during my TRT journey, but these days, there are TRT clinics readily available and men don't have to look too hard to find them.

What protocol did you use for PCT? How long were you on TRT prior?

I ask because, I tried coming off TRT before and used an HCG/fertility restart. Basically mega-dosing HCG. My fertility came back and I was a beast for a few months. Then everything went to shit. Back on it for life now.

I was on (injectable) TRT for 3 years with low-dose HCG included. I did a 6 week PCT with the first 2 weeks being HCG only, double the usual dose. Stopped HCG and switched to nolva for 4 weeks. Started with 20 mg a day for the first 2 weeks, then tapered off to 10 mg a day the last 2 weeks. Took a low dose AI those same two weeks and another week thereafter to prevent the E bounce.

Was more like a gentle landing than a crash, except I don't even feel any difference at all. No beast mode, no crash. Just normal.

I'm curious, how long after you did PCT did everything go back to shit?

It's been 4-5 months since I completed PCT and I'm still doing fine.

I do have a confession to make. I haven't checked my T levels since completing my PCT... and I almost don't want to know because if my results come back low, it might get into my head -- I feel it's just as much a mental thing as it is physical, at least in my case and at my age. Maybe this sounds silly, but I say, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

But I would like to know how, when, and why it went to shit for you after PCT...

Post: #1106

^Totally understand what you mean about not getting your levels checked at the moment.

Went to get my pre-cycle test bloodwork done today at the local hospital.

they don't test for Free Test - only Overall Test, Estradiol/E2, Progesterone.

Get the results in a few days.

What do you guys think of Cialis as an aromatase / inhibitor?

Post: #1107

Cleanslate,

I came off TRT in Feb of ‘16, began HCG megadose, girl got pregnant instantly. Felt good for a few months. By July/August I was in a living nightmare. Panic attacks, shitty gym performance and the exasperation of pre-existing injuries. So about 6 months, to andwer your question. I was in my late 20’s and had been on trt on/off for 2 years.

I got my T levels rechecked in August/Sep and they were slightly low, nothing crazy but my primary care doc put me on Tim Ferriss’s test diet. Lots of Brazil nuts.

Diet didn’t do shit and actually had a lower TT blood test after 30 days of it. Went to Defy in December ‘16 and have been much much better ever since. Battled cystic acne for a year or so but its cleared up now with regular tanning. I’m very happy with Defy.

Post: #1108

4 weeks on LGD-4033

There’s apparent muscle gain in my shoulders and arms. I’ve gained 5lbs in 4 weeks but there’s obvious fat gain. Bodyfat machine at the gym put me at 198lbs and 17.0% BF. I can’t wear some Large shirts and have gone to XL. Still wearing the same size pants (34W).

Arms have increased by about 1/8th of an inch. Besides one comment about my forearms by a bjj buddy, no one has commented on a physique change.

Next plan is test cyp @ 400mg/wk for 10 weeks. I did not feel like LGD-4033 was worth the money when test is similiar in cost.

Post: #1109

Got my blood results:

Male, 43 years old

Testosterone: 6.76 ng/ml
Estradiol: 32.28 pg/ml

Getting a free-test investigation on Monday.

Doctor was not buying my need for TRT, said my levels were fine.

Post: #1110

(05-11-2018 04:40 AM)Bienvenuto Wrote:  Testosterone: 6.76 ng/ml

Doctor was not buying my need for TRT, said my levels were fine.

Even in the Socialist People's Republic of Canuckistan they put you on TRT if test <10. I say your doctor is shit.

Post: #1111

I ran a test E only cycle a year and a half ago and was very happy with the benefits. Especially the immune system boost and how I could recover from any kind of physically straining activity like if it was nothing. Here's what I came up with for my second cycle:

Week 1-16: Test E 500mg per week (250mg every 3.5 days)
Week 1-14: Deca 400mg per week (200mg every 3.5 days)
Week 1-16: Aromasin 12.5mg every 3 days
Week 1-16: HCG 250 IU every 3 days (still not sure on this)
Week 19-20: Nolvadex 40mg every day
Week 21-22: Nolvadex 20mg every day

6'1" 175lb male at 13% BF hoping to bulk without gaining too much fat by eating clean.

Thoughts?

Post: #1112

What UG labs are you Canadian guys using? I’ve used Transfusion Pharmaceuticals and Teragon labs, both were good. I’m going to order a couple of vials of 250 mg/ml of enanthate at $35 each, if anyone knows of any better deals, let me know.

*Buying and possessing UG steroids is legal in Canada as far as I know so this post isn’t promoting illegal activity.

Post: #1113

(05-14-2018 05:21 PM)the Thing Wrote:  

(05-11-2018 04:40 AM)Bienvenuto Wrote:  Testosterone: 6.76 ng/ml

Doctor was not buying my need for TRT, said my levels were fine.

Even in the Socialist People's Republic of Canuckistan they put you on TRT if test <10. I say your doctor is shit.

I reckon he is.

My understanding is that 6.76 is average, 4 or 5 is low, 7 or 8 is high, hence he doesn't reckon I need it. If I'm wrong about those values I'd be happy to hear it.

The thing is I'm in Vietnam and I wanted to get my bloods done which has to be done through a doctor consultation. What version of TRT medicine he would have given me anyway is open to conjecture.

Still, bloods showing Estradiol and Test levels for $5 USD . Not bad.

The fact that my estradiol seems high is a concern. I'm considering using Arimidex to control it but looking online, dosage seems very hit and miss.

Any advice for dosing on a 10 week cycle appreciated.

Post: #1114

(05-15-2018 09:16 AM)Bienvenuto Wrote:  

(05-14-2018 05:21 PM)the Thing Wrote:  

(05-11-2018 04:40 AM)Bienvenuto Wrote:  Testosterone: 6.76 ng/ml

Doctor was not buying my need for TRT, said my levels were fine.

Even in the Socialist People's Republic of Canuckistan they put you on TRT if test <10. I say your doctor is shit.

I reckon he is.

My understanding is that 6.76 is average, 4 or 5 is low, 7 or 8 is high, hence he doesn't reckon I need it. If I'm wrong about those values I'd be happy to hear it.

The thing is I'm in Vietnam and I wanted to get my bloods done which has to be done through a doctor consultation. What version of TRT medicine he would have given me anyway is open to conjecture.

Still, bloods showing Estradiol and Test levels for $5 USD . Not bad.

The fact that my estradiol seems high is a concern. I'm considering using Arimidex to control it but looking online, dosage seems very hit and miss.

Any advice for dosing on a 10 week cycle appreciated.

I may have the units mixed up there. I thought it was given in nmol/L (which is usually the case) and that would be super low. If ng/mL that's actually pretty good.

Post: #1115

(05-15-2018 09:16 AM)Bienvenuto Wrote:  The fact that my estradiol seems high is a concern. I'm considering using Arimidex to control it but looking online, dosage seems very hit and miss.

Any advice for dosing on a 10 week cycle appreciated.

I assume you mean arimidex in conjunction with test during a cycle?

Post: #1116

(05-15-2018 01:35 PM)the Thing Wrote:  

(05-15-2018 09:16 AM)Bienvenuto Wrote:  

(05-14-2018 05:21 PM)the Thing Wrote:  

(05-11-2018 04:40 AM)Bienvenuto Wrote:  Testosterone: 6.76 ng/ml

Doctor was not buying my need for TRT, said my levels were fine.

Even in the Socialist People's Republic of Canuckistan they put you on TRT if test <10. I say your doctor is shit.

I reckon he is.

My understanding is that 6.76 is average, 4 or 5 is low, 7 or 8 is high, hence he doesn't reckon I need it. If I'm wrong about those values I'd be happy to hear it.

The thing is I'm in Vietnam and I wanted to get my bloods done which has to be done through a doctor consultation. What version of TRT medicine he would have given me anyway is open to conjecture.

Still, bloods showing Estradiol and Test levels for $5 USD . Not bad.

The fact that my estradiol seems high is a concern. I'm considering using Arimidex to control it but looking online, dosage seems very hit and miss.

Any advice for dosing on a 10 week cycle appreciated.

I may have the units mixed up there. I thought it was given in nmol/L (which is usually the case) and that would be super low. If ng/mL that's actually pretty good.

yeah its not the normal way of recording it. I think a more common way of recording it would be 676.

Post: #1117

(05-16-2018 02:48 AM)thebassist Wrote:  

(05-15-2018 09:16 AM)Bienvenuto Wrote:  The fact that my estradiol seems high is a concern. I'm considering using Arimidex to control it but looking online, dosage seems very hit and miss.

Any advice for dosing on a 10 week cycle appreciated.

I assume you mean arimidex in conjunction with test during a cycle?

Yes, will be using test e (pharmaceutical grade) and pinning every 3 days (250m every 6days) rather than twice a week (which seems to me 3 days, then 4 days then 3 days - uneven from looking at the maths of it.)

I read that the ideal oestrogen level for men on test is 10 to 15 rather than 32.28 - my level.

With a base level of 676 test and 32.28 estradiol already I'm concerned that at the same time my Test increases my Estrogen will spike hard (and thereby undermine my use of Test in the first place) without the use of something like Arimidex to control it.

I also read that Arimidex is powerful stuff and easily crushes oestrogen to point thats unhealthy.

Hence any advice about use and dosage of Arimidex whilst on cycle gratefully received.

Post: #1118

(05-15-2018 09:16 AM)Bienvenuto Wrote:  Any advice for dosing on a 10 week cycle appreciated.

a few questions...

Is all of this correct?... you are 43, this will be your first time using testosterone or any steroid, and you will be using pharma grade test-enanthate.

what is your purpose for using testosterone?

what are your goals for the cycle?

why 250mg per 6 days or per week? (I agree with 250mg per week of pharma grade test e for a first cycle but many people suggest a higher dosage.)

why a 10 week cycle? why not longer? 10 weeks is a short time. A more typical cycle might be 12 weeks on, 2 weeks to let esters clear, 4-6 weeks PCT

(05-16-2018 03:36 AM)Bienvenuto Wrote:  Yes, will be using test e (pharmaceutical grade) and pinning every 3 days (250m every 6days) rather than twice a week (which seems to me 3 days, then 4 days then 3 days - uneven from looking at the maths of it.)

The easy solution is to pin every 3.5 days - monday morning and thursday night.

Pinning on an uneven schedule isn't much of a problem. Pinning more frequently is a bigger factor. For example, pinning three times per week in the mornings on monday, wednesday, and friday would be uneven but it would still be better than (or at least as good as) pinning twice per week at equal intervals.

If you do subq injections instead of instramuscular then you may need to consider the mg/ml ratio of your testosterone. You can only inject about 40% to 50% of a ml at a time with subq so you may need to divide it into three injections. I think subq is better, especially if you are concerned about estrogen, although intramuscular is more popular (for now).

(05-16-2018 03:36 AM)Bienvenuto Wrote:  I read that the ideal oestrogen level for men on test is 10 to 15 rather than 32.28 - my level.

I disagree strongly that the ideal level is 10 to 15. "Ideal" would be not having to take an AI and I don't think anyone can disagree with that. As far as levels go, there are many opinions but I think a middle of the road opinion would be to avoid an AI if you aren't above 45 or 50 and don't have symptoms.

Someone posted recently that 15 to 25 is ideal. I don't agree and I think it is an extreme opinion but some people agree. I think 10 to 15 is very extreme and unreasonable.

Good new and bad news. The good news is that your estrogen is not high...not at all...it's conceivable that your estrogen is actually low. The bad news is that estrogen and estrogen testing are complicated. The standard estrogen test gives incorrect results for men which typically result in higher values than your actual estrogen levels. So your levels are probably below 32.28 unless you took the ultra-sensitive estrogen test which you probably didn't especially if you are outside of North America.

Everyone has a different opinion on estrogen levels. My opinion is that if you do a 250mg per week cycle (or less) then you can take a wait and see approach. Don't take an AI unless you need it. Don't take the AI until you need it which will probably be at least a few weeks into the cycle. You might need it. You might need as much as 1 or 2 pills per week but there is no way to know until you have some experience with test injections and know how your body reacts.

(05-16-2018 03:36 AM)Bienvenuto Wrote:  With a base level of 676 test and 32.28 estradiol already I'm concerned that at the same time my Test increases my Estrogen will spike hard (and thereby undermine my use of Test in the first place) without the use of something like Arimidex to control it.

Both your t and e levels are good.

(05-16-2018 03:36 AM)Bienvenuto Wrote:  I also read that Arimidex is powerful stuff and easily crushes oestrogen to point thats unhealthy.

I disagree to an extent. I think you are talking about Aromasin. It's good but very powerful.

Arimidex pills can be easily cut into small pieces. Arimidex can crash your estrogen but only if you take too much. Some guys believe Aromasin is better and that is probably true in some cases but Arimidex is probably easier to dose correctly although it is somewhat of a guessing game.

(05-16-2018 03:36 AM)Bienvenuto Wrote:  Hence any advice about use and dosage of Arimidex whilst on cycle gratefully received.

These are opinions that some will disagree with but my advice is (1)don't take testosterone unless you need it or really want it and are aware of the risks. Your levels are good and you can make significant improvements through better sleep, nutrition, high intensity exercise, and stress reduction. (2)if you decide to take testosterone then start with TRT or a low dose cycle and see how your body reacts in regards to estrogen. It will be much easier to manage estrogen at higher dosages of testosterone if you get some experience at lower dosages first.

Post: #1119

(05-16-2018 03:38 PM)birthday cat Wrote:  

(05-15-2018 09:16 AM)Bienvenuto Wrote:  Any advice for dosing on a 10 week cycle appreciated.

a few questions...

Is all of this correct?... you are 43, this will be your first time using testosterone or any steroid, and you will be using pharma grade test-enanthate.

All correct.


what is your purpose for using testosterone?

what are your goals for the cycle?


There was a Dorian Yates quote: "you can train long or you can train hard: but you can't do both"

I have a whole set of injuries that I need to do physio on. hundreds of reps a day is ideal.
I have two of the best physios in the Uk who I am working under. their advice is "just do it and do it" (their rehab plan). Its pretty involved in terms of hours but I managed it before when I was off work and made good progress but now that I've moved country and am doing a new, demanding job (only 20 hours a week though) I've slid back badly.

The problem is when I do even a sometimes moderate Physio session alongside work I'm washed out and it takes me a week to recover from two or even one session.

Its not just the weights or the band work or the pool work, even the recovery-mobility work is affected as I don't have the energy to really put into it.

My GP back home did an exhaustive bloods recently and everything checked out. I sleep 10 hours a night and am on top of my diet, prescriptions and supplements now.

So what am I looking to do? Follow as much as I can of my physios' rehab/ strengthening plan with an improved recovery time.

why 250mg per 6 days or per week? (I agree with 250mg per week of pharma grade test e for a first cycle but many people suggest a higher dosage.)

Just advice of more experienced users.

why a 10 week cycle? why not longer? 10 weeks is a short time. A more typical cycle might be 12 weeks on, 2 weeks to let esters clear, 4-6 weeks PCT

I've actually ordered a 12 week supply (if based on pinning twice a week as opposed to three days). I'm open to 12 weeks although I don't want to push it on my first cycle.


Yes, will be using test e (pharmaceutical grade) and pinning every 3 days (250m every 6days) rather than twice a week (which seems to me 3 days, then 4 days then 3 days - uneven from looking at the maths of it.)


The easy solution is to pin every 3.5 days - monday morning and thursday night.

Pinning on an uneven schedule isn't much of a problem. Pinning more frequently is a bigger factor. For example, pinning three times per week in the mornings on monday, wednesday, and friday would be uneven but it would still be better than (or at least as good as) pinning twice per week at equal intervals.

If you do subq injections instead of instramuscular then you may need to consider the mg/ml ratio of your testosterone. You can only inject about 40% to 50% of a ml at a time with subq so you may need to divide it into three injections. I think subq is better, especially if you are concerned about estrogen, although intramuscular is more popular (for now).

People I speak to who are pinning and have tried both say they find intramuscular is better. I admit I know very little either way.

(05-16-2018 03:36 AM)Bienvenuto Wrote:  I read that the ideal oestrogen level for men on test is 10 to 15 rather than 32.28 - my level.

I disagree strongly that the ideal level is 10 to 15. "Ideal" would be not having to take an AI and I don't think anyone can disagree with that. As far as levels go, there are many opinions but I think a middle of the road opinion would be to avoid an AI if you aren't above 45 or 50 and don't have symptoms.

Someone posted recently that 15 to 25 is ideal. I don't agree and I think it is an extreme opinion but some people agree. I think 10 to 15 is very extreme and unreasonable.

Good new and bad news. The good news is that your estrogen is not high...not at all...it's conceivable that your estrogen is actually low. The bad news is that estrogen and estrogen testing are complicated. The standard estrogen test gives incorrect results for men which typically result in higher values than your actual estrogen levels. So your levels are probably below 32.28 unless you took the ultra-sensitive estrogen test which you probably didn't especially if you are outside of North America.

Everyone has a different opinion on estrogen levels. My opinion is that if you do a 250mg per week cycle (or less) then you can take a wait and see approach. Don't take an AI unless you need it. Don't take the AI until you need it which will probably be at least a few weeks into the cycle. You might need it. You might need as much as 1 or 2 pills per week but there is no way to know until you have some experience with test injections and know how your body reacts.

I have an arimidex supply and can hold off until/unless symptoms present themselves.

(05-16-2018 03:36 AM)Bienvenuto Wrote:  With a base level of 676 test and 32.28 estradiol already I'm concerned that at the same time my Test increases my Estrogen will spike hard (and thereby undermine my use of Test in the first place) without the use of something like Arimidex to control it.

Both your t and e levels are good.

(05-16-2018 03:36 AM)Bienvenuto Wrote:  I also read that Arimidex is powerful stuff and easily crushes oestrogen to point thats unhealthy.

I disagree to an extent. I think you are talking about Aromasin. It's good but very powerful.

Arimidex pills can be easily cut into small pieces. Arimidex can crash your estrogen but only if you take too much. Some guys believe Aromasin is better and that is probably true in some cases but Arimidex is probably easier to dose correctly although it is somewhat of a guessing game.

(05-16-2018 03:36 AM)Bienvenuto Wrote:  Hence any advice about use and dosage of Arimidex whilst on cycle gratefully received.

These are opinions that some will disagree with but my advice is (1)don't take testosterone unless you need it or really want it and are aware of the risks. Your levels are good and you can make significant improvements through better sleep, nutrition, high intensity exercise, and stress reduction. (2)if you decide to take testosterone then start with TRT or a low dose cycle and see how your body reacts in regards to estrogen. It will be much easier to manage estrogen at higher dosages of testosterone if you get some experience at lower dosages first.

I'm planning on going with the 250 test cycle. Maybe I'm just being impatient but I have relocated overseas and carved out this time where I can fix longstanding injuries. I might not get this time again.

Also planning to a test-daca stack in January/ February to get closer to my strength goals depending on how my injuries have healed and subsequent training has gone.

Thanks for taking the time and all your input by the way. Helps alot.

Post: #1120

Finished week 1 of test c blast; 400mg/wk, hcg 400iu/wk, adex 1mg/2x/wk

I’ve read that it should take a few weeks on cycle for things to kick in. But I’m noticing changes already.

Muscles are a lot harder and more defined. Noticeable strength boost.

No sides yet. Skin/nipples are normal.

If this is only one week in, I’m very psyched to see how the next few weeks unfold.

Had to go up in button down size to XL from Express (unrelated to T blast. This was overdue)

Current stats: 5’9”, ~195lbs, est. 16% bf

Post: #1121

Week 2 of test blast.

-Libido feels about 30% stronger. Waking up rock hard even after fucking twice last night, or jacking off 2-3x per day.

-No physical estrogenic sides still, but I’m feeling way more emotional. Crying easily when watching movies, or even THINKING about a sad scene from a movie I saw a year ago. So, this is kind of weird. When estrogen hits me, I cry easily. Oh well.

-Strength gains are more and more apparent. I’m doing Leangains 3x/wk, high intensity/low volume.

-Muscles aren’t bigger, and I’m down in weight about a pound. Calories are recomp-esque just because I was looking a little too pudgy. May switch to straight bulk mid-cycle if I get lean enough.

Post: #1122

2nd week pinning 125mg twice a week.

Seem to have come down with test flu: fever, sweats, sore throat, cough, aches.

I've gone to pinning 80mg and taking it easy.

Any do's and dont's in this scenario?

Post: #1123

(05-30-2018 12:43 PM)Bienvenuto Wrote:  2nd week pinning 125mg twice a week.

Seem to have come down with test flu: fever, sweats, sore throat, cough, aches.

I've gone to pinning 80mg and taking it easy.

Any do's and dont's in this scenario?

do you get your testosterone legally or underground?

what ester is it? test e or test p or test u?

do you take any other ancillaries like arimidex or anti estrogen compounds?

Post: #1124

(05-27-2018 12:14 PM)Checkmat Wrote:  Week 2 of test blast.

-Libido feels about 30% stronger. Waking up rock hard even after fucking twice last night, or jacking off 2-3x per day.

-No physical estrogenic sides still, but I’m feeling way more emotional. Crying easily when watching movies, or even THINKING about a sad scene from a movie I saw a year ago. So, this is kind of weird. When estrogen hits me, I cry easily. Oh well.

-Strength gains are more and more apparent. I’m doing Leangains 3x/wk, high intensity/low volume.

-Muscles aren’t bigger, and I’m down in weight about a pound. Calories are recomp-esque just because I was looking a little too pudgy. May switch to straight bulk mid-cycle if I get lean enough.

eat zero soy.... to reduce estrogenic sides... and eat less processed carbs. one important thing is to reduce all kinds of inflammation in ur body especially root canal.

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(05-16-2018 03:36 AM)Bienvenuto Wrote:  

(05-16-2018 02:48 AM)thebassist Wrote:  

(05-15-2018 09:16 AM)Bienvenuto Wrote:  The fact that my estradiol seems high is a concern. I'm considering using Arimidex to control it but looking online, dosage seems very hit and miss.

Any advice for dosing on a 10 week cycle appreciated.

I assume you mean arimidex in conjunction with test during a cycle?

Yes, will be using test e (pharmaceutical grade) and pinning every 3 days (250m every 6days) rather than twice a week (which seems to me 3 days, then 4 days then 3 days - uneven from looking at the maths of it.)

I read that the ideal oestrogen level for men on test is 10 to 15 rather than 32.28 - my level.

With a base level of 676 test and 32.28 estradiol already I'm concerned that at the same time my Test increases my Estrogen will spike hard (and thereby undermine my use of Test in the first place) without the use of something like Arimidex to control it.

I also read that Arimidex is powerful stuff and easily crushes oestrogen to point thats unhealthy.

Hence any advice about use and dosage of Arimidex whilst on cycle gratefully received.

i dont take arimidex and i am fine. i dont check my estrogen level yet but i think it should be within range. i dont cry when watching sad movies or emotional in any case... take 125 mg every 3.5 days