Post: #76

Trial began last week:
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/cour...ar-BBrsV1O

Post: #77

The comments on the new trial, makes me think people aren't as dumb as many like to think. Gives me hope to be honest.

Post: #78

(02-27-2015 05:26 PM)Old Fritz Wrote:  I was actually going to post this thread but glad someone else did.



She definitely has the crazy eyes.

and a five-head

Post: #79

http://www.masslive.com/news/index.ssf/2...helle.html

Justice delayed is Justice denied.

Post: #80

Looks like the trial is starting back up

Woman on trial for texts 'driving boyfriend to suicide'

Post: #81

Why the fllying f*ck is this cunt being tried in juvenile court? She committed the crime at 18!
Another case of the justice system being lenient on women.

Post: #82

GUILTY!
Burn in hell!!!!!!!

Post: #83

(06-16-2017 10:17 AM)Aquiles_Baesta_Parada Wrote:  GUILTY!
Burn in hell!!!!!!!

Hope she gets the maximum sentence. Too bad it's only 20 years.

Post: #84

Little Dark's evil lil sister...

This evil ploy for attention did not go in the direction she'd hoped for

Post: #85

Pussy Pass: DENIED

Post: #86

Link to the video of the judge announcing his verdict.

Post: #87

(06-16-2017 11:25 AM)Alpha_Romeo Wrote:  Pussy Pass: DENIED

Not so fast. I bet she gets probation. She's free on bail till sentencing in Aug. She'll never see prison. Young, attractive, rich white girls are not responsible for their actions in the modern West.

Post: #88

(06-16-2017 01:53 PM)RIslander Wrote:  

(06-16-2017 11:25 AM)Alpha_Romeo Wrote:  Pussy Pass: DENIED

Not so fast. I bet she gets probation. She's free on bail till sentencing in Aug. She'll never see prison. Young, attractive, rich white girls are not responsible for their actions in the modern West.

Exactly - guilty does not mean that she will get any prison time at all.

Post: #89

Also remember she was tried as a juvenile, the kid gloves are officially on.

Post: #90

This case might end up setting a new precedent for these type of crimes, which probably aren't going to end with this one. I don't think she will get the maximum sentence, but I don't think she will walk out of the court a free woman (girl) either.

Post: #91

(06-16-2017 03:54 PM)Atlanta Man Wrote:  Also remember she was tried as a juvenile, the kid gloves are officially on.

How old was she when this shit happened? I would have bet that if she were a dude or a minority she would have been tried as an adult.

I'm sure this bitch is not getting jail time at all. Knew some homies with aggravated assault w/ a deadly weapon and they ended up with probation.

Post: #92

I don't think she should go to prison. For one thing, people don't just kill themselves on someone's advice/urging unless they already have major problems. If your girlfriend or wife starts telling you to kill yourself, are you going to do it? Probably not.

We need to be cautious about blaming people for others' suicides. Remember Tyler Clementi, who supposedly killed himself after being outed as gay? It's plausible that gays have a higher suicide rate for reasons that have nothing to do with bullying, but any time a gay teen kills himself and is later found to have been bullied, people want to blame the bully and say that he's guilty of a hate crime. In reality, most kids, gay or straight, get bullied at some point or another, but they usually don't kill themselves.

There are First Amendment issues implicated in this kind of case. What happens if there's an 80-year-old grandmother who's uselessly suffering in the hospital, and costing the taxpayers a bunch of money to keep her alive a few more months; should you go to prison if you tell her, "Maybe you should just have them pull the plug"?

It gets to a point where if you're dealing with a suicidal person, the only safe thing to say is, "Go get help from some qualified psychologist" because if you say something else that later people say pushed them over the edge, maybe you'll got to jail. Maybe the suicidal person himself is violating the law by saying, "Maybe I should kill myself," because he's making the suggestion to himself and urging himself in that direction with his own thoughts, the same way that Michelle Carter egged Conrad Roy on.

If you're not allowed to say, "Yes, you should kill yourself" then it has no meaning when you say, "No, you shouldn't kill yourself," because you're not allowed to say anything else but that. It's like how if you live in a one-party communist state, and you vote for the dictator, your vote for the dictator doesn't actually mean you support him, because it's the only vote you were allowed to cast. In order for what you say to be meaningful, you have to have the option to say something else.

Suicidal people need to have people they can go to for an honest dialog. If your life is really valuable, then it shouldn't really matter if your girlfriend is telling you "You should kill yourself" because there should be many other people around you telling you the reasons why you should ignore her advice and dump her. So my question is, in Conrad Roy's life, where were those people, and if they existed, why weren't they able to get through to him?

Post: #93

^People who are depressed/suicidal generally aren't rational, otherwise they wouldn't be in that position

Post: #94

I know what you're getting at Jean, and you're right. But if you were to tell some already suicidal bitch that she should just kill herself then (repeatedly), and the court had proof of this from texts or whatever... I'm pretty sure we wouldnt be seeing any posts from you for a long, long time.

Post: #95

(06-17-2017 05:44 AM)The Catalyst Wrote:  ^People who are depressed/suicidal generally aren't rational, otherwise they wouldn't be in that position

I don't buy into the theory that life in our society is so great and wonderful that the only way anyone could possibly want to choose suicide is if they were irrational. Society is sick and there are a lot of misfits who conclude that it's not worth being a part of it.

There are also a lot of slow and socially acceptable forms of suicide that people resort to. For example, people will eat to the point of obesity, knowing that it could shorten their lifespan, and society looks at that as normal ("No fat shaming!") Or damaged chicks will have unprotected sex with everything that walks, and that's fine ("No slut shaming!"), even though they could catch AIDS and die. It was proposed that overeating be added to the DSM, but probably the reason that didn't pass was that we have a lot of fatso shrinks, politicians, etc. who don't want to be labeled mentally ill.

There's a lot of stuff that happens that people don't even recognize as suicidal. For example, when Timothy McVeigh or Dylann Roof killed a bunch of people, knowing that they could get the death penalty, that bordered on suicide, yet they weren't found to be irrational. What about the Jihadis who get caught planning suicide bombings? The government sends them to prison or Guantanamo Bay instead of a mental hospital.

(06-17-2017 05:47 AM)Tex Cruise Wrote:  I know what you're getting at Jean, and you're right. But if you were to tell some already suicidal bitch that she should just kill herself then (repeatedly), and the court had proof of this from texts or whatever... I'm pretty sure we wouldnt be seeing any posts from you for a long, long time.

It's hard for me to imagine telling someone, "You should kill yourself," because it always has to be up to the individual. People have gone through some horrific stuff, like getting disfigured in the Iraq War or having a chimpanzee eat chunks of their body, and still decided to live. All I would ever do is say, "Here are some options I can think of for how to improve your life, but it's up to you what you want to do."

It's highly unusual that anyone would ever say, "You should kill yourself" because usually people will just dissociate from you if they don't like you and therefore wouldn't mind if you died. Your friends are usually your friends because they like you, and therefore they don't want to lose you, so they won't advise you to kill yourself, even if you're suffering. The furthest I might go is to say, "I can understand why in your situation you might feel suicidal" because I know what it's like to fall into despair.

Okay, maybe I would go further than that. There have been a couple times when someone was suicidal and I said, "Well, if you're ready to go, here's a reliable and painless way," and put a method right in front of them. When it was presented like that as an imminent possibility, it caused the conversation to suddenly shift from their talking about why they should die, to why they should live (e.g. "I have to stay around to take care of my dog" or "Let me see if my situation improves over the next few months"). Maybe Michelle Carter should've claimed, "I was just trying to use reverse psychology to get him to not kill himself!" But I guess the law doesn't understand those subtleties.

It reminds me of how people ask red pillers, "Wait, you're against girls being sluts, but you teach how to game girls; isn't that a contradiction?" And our response is usually, "We don't have any magical game that would seduce a good girl. If she gets seduced, it's because she wanted to be seduced." But if her parents find out she had sex, she'll cry and say, "He seduced me!" because she doesn't want to take the blame. The parents certainly don't want to blame themselves for raising a girl who ended up becoming a slut, so it's easier just to blame the men who seduced her.

Same thing with suicide. If someone kills themselves, people want to find someone to blame, because they don't want to blame themselves for being unsupportive friends or family members. Society certainly doesn't want to admit that it's so dysfunctional that people would prefer to off themselves. So they go looking for a scapegoat.

Post: #96

Apparently the judge focused on this part:

'After he exited the truck, Carter told him to "get back in," prosecutors said.'

We don't have "evil samaritan" laws in place because this shit doesn't usually happen.

Post: #97

So people yelling "Jump!" to a man on a roof are guilty of manslaughter?

I don't like this. I guarantee we'll see some crazy rulings citing this case. Before long, men will be in prison because they didn't take their overly dramatic ex girlfriend back when she texted that she was going to kill herself. He had a duty to care for her after all.

Post: #98

She is starting to look like Cara Delevingne



Hopefully she will serve the time.

Post: #99

Evil Samaritan is a killer concept. From now on, anytime a woman complains about something I do, I will claim to be one.

Post: #100

^WCV (Would conjugal visit)