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(06-05-2017 07:56 PM)iop890 Wrote:  
(06-05-2017 07:49 PM)komatiite Wrote:  I envision you holed up in your meme bunker with chipmunk cheeks post wisdom teeth surgery just hammering Sadiq Khan with tactical memes and shitposts

This is accurate, its been a very painkiller and Twitter filled weekend.

I knew iop890's Republican primaries panopticon would be repurposed to good use.

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I'm with Leonard on this issue.

Essentially, there is no muslim problem without the traitors in our midst. If our treasonous leaders didn't keep opening the floodgates, nothing these people could do would ever be able to harm us.

I wish with all my heart that we lived in an era of leaders with balls like Ferdinand and Isabel, the Catholic monarchs of Spain that pushed the Moors out of the Iberian peninsula once and for all. I recently visited their tombs and prayed at the Royal Chapel in Granada. I would rally to the banner of a Reconquista in a heartbeat. But much more important than any kind of reconquest from invading foreigners is a reconquest of our halls of power from the treasonous bastards who are relentlessly poisoning our society from within.
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RE: London Bridge and Borough Market Attacks (June 3, 2017)
(06-05-2017 05:15 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  Finally some more details emerging about the cutters of date-night women:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/lon...--10562140

+ of course he was reported
+ of course he was on the terror watch list
+ he even appeared in a Channel 4 documentary praying next to an ISIS flag


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As I said before - the Chinese would have likely executed or incarcerated all of the 3500 individuals on the watch-list. They even arrest the ones doing online propaganda from fucking abroad!

Also the number of potential terrorists is more along the lines of 20.000+ according to some sources.

Quote:"But all that changed when he became radicalised.

"He began stopping his neighbours in the street and asking them if they had been saying their prayers and when they had been to the mosque."

One man who knew the killer told the BBC he had become so concerned by his extremist views he rang the anti-terrorist hotline.

He claimed the attacker was not arrested and was allowed to keep his passport.

Radicalization takes only a few Youtube vids.

Islam is radical by default.

my family watched this documentary when it was released.

the muslims followed couldn't show their ill intent more plainly, yet today the media blur their faces as if they're freaking civilians.

they were already linked with extremist speakers. now that one of them has actually acted on it, you'd expect they would be the first to get arrested.

meanwhile the 12 arrested suspects have all been released. this is the bunch they should have gone after in the first place, but the media protects them.

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I think it is generally better to call all the terrorists Devout Muslims, because that is what they are. Jihadis and supporters of Jihad are doing the will of their Allah and of Mohammed. It is the lukewarm Muslims who oppose that will and deserve death according to their religion.

In Christianity you have different sects, but keep in mind that the pure gospel is the life and works of Jesus. And this very example gives plenty of leeway for all Christians to stand behind - regardless of what their church elders or the pope say. Almost all Christians can stand behind what Jesus said or did.

If you contrast it with Islam and Mohammed, then what will you listen to? Only the first peaceful years of Mohammed which were all made invalid by the later commands and violent times? Will you cherry-pick and create a fantasy Mohammed? Yeah - you go ahead and practice your prayers and crap while ignoring the rest. But don't be surprised if your son or grandson take it more seriously and knife down a helpless girl who enjoyed a glass of wine during Ramadan in London. Because that is what this cult teaches and your son was just a true believer.

All terrorists are just DEVOUT MUSLIMS.
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3 Steps of Jihads
Covert
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and the step Zero:
Clueless about Jihad
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RE: London Bridge and Borough Market Attacks (June 3, 2017)
It is hopefully becoming apparent to people that the political establishment we vote for have nothing but utter contempt for us and treat with total disregard the one thing that should be paramount: protecting us the electorate from harm.

The Labour Party under Blair had an absolutely schizophrenic immigration policy that one may think was incompetence at first glance but was nothing short of malfeasance. This coupled with kicking hornets nests in the Middle East, which millions marched on the street against, not least because there were whispers from officials about what we all knew: that all of these useless military interventions would further radicalise the jobless young Muslim men now filling up the streets of Croyden and Luton and Manchester and Glasgow.

The political establishment do nothing for us. Hillary Clinton decimates Libya and ignites the migrant crisis while assuring the bankers she is in thrall to that their dream of open borders is her dream too. Their goals are short-term enrichment and their party's grip on the greasy pole of power no matter the cost to you.

And all the while the electorate are ignored and dismissed, biding their time until it's their turn for a flying bolt to enter their brain, while our political elite return by armed guard to their ivory tower and tell us the new solution to this totally unexpected problem is looking at your internet search history.
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(06-05-2017 11:08 PM)Extinguished Light Wrote:  I'm with Leonard on this issue.

Essentially, there is no muslim problem without the traitors in our midst. If our treasonous leaders didn't keep opening the floodgates, nothing these people could do would ever be able to harm us.

And if brainwashed people didn't keep voting for the same treacherous leaders.
I have long lost my sympathy for terrorist victims, many of them voted those suckers in in the first place.

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(06-05-2017 11:08 PM)Extinguished Light Wrote:  I'm with Leonard on this issue.

I wish with all my heart that we lived in an era of leaders with balls like Ferdinand and Isabel, the Catholic monarchs of Spain that pushed the Moors out of the Iberian peninsula once and for all.

I guess Europe invited them back again because we decided Islam was too...Moorish?
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I wondered why the terrorists go for civilians and not politicians.If they hated the west and our war mongering countries so much, why not target the rulers? Either killing any kind of infidel is enough and/or they do not want to hurt their supporters.

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Lets see we got candlelight vigils, facebook flags, hashtags and now... dance parties.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/06/06/...video.html

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(06-06-2017 08:33 AM)void Wrote:  I wondered why the terrorists go for civilians and not politicians.If they hated the west and our war mongering countries so much, why not target the rulers? Either killing any kind of infidel is enough and/or they do not want to hurt their supporters.

And who votes in these politicians? Laugh

This is why I don't like these assertions such as:

- "the elites hate us"
- "the politicians are traitors"
- "the globalists are waging war on the West" etc.

They all rest on the assumption that the "people are innocent". Well, they're clearly not. Tony Blair and George Bush got voted in. So did Obama, Trump, and Merkel.

So is it never the people's fault that the politicians they elect continue to wreak havoc all over the world? It's not the people's fault that they easily fall for state propaganda and refuse to engage intellectually about what's really going on?
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(06-06-2017 10:00 AM)TigerMandingo Wrote:  
(06-06-2017 08:33 AM)void Wrote:  I wondered why the terrorists go for civilians and not politicians.If they hated the west and our war mongering countries so much, why not target the rulers? Either killing any kind of infidel is enough and/or they do not want to hurt their supporters.

And who votes in these politicians? Laugh

This is why I don't like these assertions such as:

- "the elites hate us"
- "the politicians are traitors"
- "the globalists are waging war on the West" etc.

They all rest on the assumption that the "people are innocent". Well, they're clearly not. Tony Blair and George Bush got voted in. So did Obama, Trump, and Merkel.

So is it never the people's fault that the politicians they elect continue to wreak havoc all over the world? It's not the people's fault that they easily fall for state propaganda and refuse to engage intellectually about what's really going on?
Well, ok, if you spin it like this. Of course the citizens are responsible for voting the politicians. But I am quite sure they did not vote for the invasion of Iraq or for Merkel to open the flood-gates. These decisions were made and pushed through without concern about average Joe, supported by media propaganda. (weapons of mass destruction my ass); (refugees welcome campaign journalism)

Merkel's stated reason to open the borders, was to prevent ugly pictures at the borders of Germany. (and probably in secret the population replacement plan that requires at least 200k immigrants per year to keep the population stable)
The citizens of Germany are guilty of voting in a globalist puppet, a woman without children, a leader without a vision.

We will see in September if Merkel get's voted in one last time to hit the nail on the coffin. Unfortunately it will happen. After the next economic down turn shit will hit the fan and the current elite will be voted out of the parliament.

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(06-06-2017 10:00 AM)TigerMandingo Wrote:  
(06-06-2017 08:33 AM)void Wrote:  I wondered why the terrorists go for civilians and not politicians.If they hated the west and our war mongering countries so much, why not target the rulers? Either killing any kind of infidel is enough and/or they do not want to hurt their supporters.

And who votes in these politicians? Laugh

This is why I don't like these assertions such as:

- "the elites hate us"
- "the politicians are traitors"
- "the globalists are waging war on the West" etc.

They all rest on the assumption that the "people are innocent". Well, they're clearly not. Tony Blair and George Bush got voted in. So did Obama, Trump, and Merkel.

So is it never the people's fault that the politicians they elect continue to wreak havoc all over the world? It's not the people's fault that they easily fall for state propaganda and refuse to engage intellectually about what's really going on?

Voters are limited to whom they can vote for. In past elections, I can either vote for Obama or McCain. That isn't much of a choice.

Then you factor in how the media will black out all other candidates that don't fit in within the party lines.

I remember when Ron Paul ran and the media would not even mention his name. That was the first time I saw how biased the media was. They don't even care if they look biased anymore.

It's stacked deck.
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(06-06-2017 10:22 AM)void Wrote:  Well, ok, if you spin it like this. Of course the citizens are responsible for voting the politicians. But I am quite sure they did not vote for the invasion of Iraq or for Merkel to open the flood-gates. These decisions were made without concern about average Joe.

72% of Americans supported the Iraq war. Although the rest of the world's population wasn't so naive and was actually opposed to it. Americans were truly deluded in this instance. Now, of course you can say "but the media and the elites launched a propaganda campaign to convince Americans to go to war". And you would be right, except you have to accept what that says about the people: that they are truly naive and simple-minded, unable to distinguish fundamental state propaganda from facts.

It's a similar case in Germany, where 60% or so support Merkel and her policies.

So again, when do the people get the blame?
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The people get the blame. But keep in mind that statistically, 50% of the people have an IQ <100. And from those smart enough to see through bullshit, a lot are indoctrinated, stubborn idealists or benefiters of the current system.
Reasons like above are why Hitler, Stalin or any other ideology can rise to the top and do stuff that is actually not for the benefit of the country.
If the regime looses control of information flow, you can't do proper propaganda. But they are already clamping down on this on the big platforms (facebook.......). The downfall in case of Germany is, that the demographics are skewed towards the baby boomers, who still get their news from the TV and newspaper mostly.

My original question only was: Why don't they target politicians, if they want to wage a proper war?
1) Too hard to do.
2) They fear the borders get closed or that there will be real repercussions.
3) They do not kill their supporters (in case of the London mayor, they wouldn't target him because he is muslim)
4) They are sure that they will win by immigration

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(06-06-2017 10:22 AM)void Wrote:  Well, ok, if you spin it like this. Of course the citizens are responsible for voting the politicians. But I am quite sure they did not vote for the invasion of Iraq or for Merkel to open the flood-gates. These decisions were made without concern about average Joe.

Merkel's stated reason to open the borders, was to prevent ugly pictures at the borders of Germany. (and probably in secret the population replacement plan that requires at least 200k immigrants per year to keep the population stable)
The citizens of Germany are guilty of voting in a globalist puppet, a woman without children, a leader without a vision.

We will see in September if Merkel get's voted in one last time to hit the nail on the coffin. Unfortunately it will happen. After the next economic down turn shit will hit the fan and the current elite will be voted out of the parliament.

Are you really still defending "the people"?

The very basis of the social contract of government was (as established by Jean Jacques Rousseau and other European statesmen, ironically), the people give up part of the power to the state in exchange for protection and settlement of disputes. If the government dont hold up their end of the bargain it is the people's duty to take up arms and hold them responsible.

Even dim-witted hovel dwelling peasants in France's 17th century understand this, as well as the founding fathers of USA. But apparently this is too much for most "educated" liberals to grasp.

Reality is that most of the people are self-hating, ignorants, oblivious and sheepish. The "people"s reaction after every fucking attack should make this clear to you that they are a bunch of sick bastards bent on self-destruction. After the attacks on Paris I saw on my wall a bunch of chicks taking pictures on the Champs Elysees with the caption "not afraid".

Why do you need to wait for Merkel's election? You already saw the results in France. If even you cant wake up from that, how the hell do you suppose the average European does?

The reality that these knife-wielding maniacs dont have the faintest ideas who the "elites" are. If they do, that means they are intelligent enough, which also means they will be intelligent enough to leave the elites the fuck alone because they are the ones supporting the terrorists in the first place. Who trained Bin-Laden again? And despite all that 9/11 was the most sophisticated attack they could pull off.

Your averaga Jihadis' reality is this: they wake up, finished their prayers and turn around and see a sea of infidels: your average white-looking, atheists corporate drones talking in a guttural, unsanctified language that the Prophet condemned. Everywhere he looks he sees slutty infidel women that should have been his sex slaves, walking around freely showing 80% of body skin and spit on him as well as other infidels males. By all rights they should be chained up and made to serve the faithful. He steps on the metro and gets suffocated by the press of infidels bodies. All the while working a shitty job that earns him nothing but contempt and ignorance from the masses of humanity (remember the jihadist who was a French public bus driver?), or probably collecting welfare.

At night when he comes home, he either vents that sexual frustration on some "sinful porn", or on angry Jihad forums. One day an ISIS representative shows up. "Heed the clarion of war, brother". Who's first on his list to kill? The big bad globalist bankers that he never sees nor cares about? Or that Joe who bought a kebab from him or the next guy that shares his metro? Or any blonde slut that ignores him on a daily basis?

Most of these savages are too low IQs anyway to fathom of a carefully crafted plan. That and I think in a Jihadi eyes, all infidels are equally sinful. Why risk everything to kill a few elites when killing a bunch of sluts and chodes look just as good before the eyes of Allah?

No they dont care about mass immigration at all. Most of these types are, again, too incapable of thinking of anything long term. Just look at the recent attacks in term of logistics, organizations and thinking (read: none).

I'm glad that this forum is 100% anti-Muslims. Can you even imagine the damage if someone with the intellect of Quintus or Paracelsus act as the head of ISIS, or Traveler Kai as their operatives drillmaster? Death tolls would be millions. Luckily most Jihadists are savages backwater inbreds.

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Average and high IQ individuals aren't immune to propaganda, a lot of times it's actually the contrary. The average blue collar worker votes with more common sense than the 105-115 IQ midwit journalist who thinks he's an "intellectual".

In my experience, average IQ people tend to be the most politically retarded since they overestimate their own intelligence. These are the types that describe leftist media bias as a "stupid conspiracy theory".

It's wrong to think that the majority of citizens in Europe is in favor of mass immigration from third world shitholes. This isn't true, polls have shown the majority here has always been against it, and most people here recognize Islam as a threat.

The public opinion here has shifted in the past 2 years, even on the most cucked websites and FB pages I know people are waking up.

/r/Europe on Reddit would be a great example of all of the above: it was cucked as hell 2 years ago and now most of the commentary is very critical of Islam and immigration and the retarded open borders types get downvoted to hell BUT they also still shy away from changing their voting patterns, they still hate Brexit, Trump, UKIP and any nationalist party in general.

That's is the typical attitude in Europe right now: with most people you can realistically talk about Islam and immigration in normie friendly terms but they get massively triggered when you mention voting for the nationalist parties and Trump. I remember Samseau talking about this on a podcast last year right before the US presidential elections: when persuading people he quickly learned that you shouldn't mention "Trump" immediately on the doorstep because it's a trigger word for normies.

Making them vote for the right party is the biggest hurdle and more than anything that has to do with being afraid of being called "stupid" and "uneducated". Social stigma is very powerful in Europe, probably even more so in the UK which is a very class divided society.

PhDre wrote about this in French presidential thread:

(04-24-2017 12:40 AM)PhDre Wrote:  I am not surprised in the least.

This is how deep the indoctrination runs here in Europe. Don't forget that the prime television channels in Europe have always been government controlled and that we've had tightly controlled common core education since forever.

It's not even a matter of being called "racist". That word is losing his meaning over here as well.

Rather, it's the fear of being called dumb.
If you don't understand that:
multiculturalism is better,
diversity is our strength,
we need immigrants to do the jobs the locals won't do,
we need immigrants to pay for our retirement,
islam is a peaceful religion,
we cannot avoid muslim terrorist attacks,
then you are simply too stupid (and irrelevant and unimportant to society).

That is the biggest fear of the European: being called dumb or stupid and the loss of social status that accompanies this stigma.
Because he still sees himself as the pinnacle of intelligence and enlightenment in the world.
Many over here are still chuckling about "how dumb Trump is" and "how dumb the Americans are for electing him".
The joke is on us, though.

A post of mine in the Migrant Invasion thread from last year on what the public opinion in Europe really is and why people still keep supporting the same parties:

(07-18-2016 07:12 PM)RaccoonFace Wrote:  
(07-18-2016 06:38 PM)Off The Reservation Wrote:  For any Europeans on this forum, are people who are "normal" blue pill types waking up at all or are they still desperate to defend the multicultural anti-european narritive?

My thoughts on what the real public opinion in Europe is and why people still keep voting for the same parties in the Migrant invasion thread last year:

I think this question each and every attack. Maybe now they will wake up. Maybe this time they will wake up...
This is a hard question to answer because of the "silent majority" factor: you may see a lot of leftists virtue signaling on Facebook but that doesn't mean they represent the general population, normal people are afraid to express their opinion. Most polls, before and after the migrant crisis, have shown that the great majority of the population is strongly against third world immigration in literally every European country except for Sweden.

A friend of mine was a leftist before the migrant crisis and all these terrorist attacks, but he has changed his stance on immigration heavily, he has literally said he wants all Muslims to be deported. He is still leftist economically, but he now recognizes that it can only work in high trust societies aka white countries.





I also see a lot of people who are still blind. These people tend to work in the public sector and live in homogenous towns outside of the city, just like those hypocritical Northern liberals in your country.

However, it doesn't really matter to me how many of them 'wake up' as long as most people will keep voting for the same old establishment parties. To me, people voting for the centre-right cuckersvative globalists are just as guilty as the ones voting for leftist parties. The only option is voting for nationalist parties and as long as the native population refuses to do that, I don't care 'how many people have woken up', they deserve everything that's coming to them.

You could say most people have woken up by now, judging by the Facebook comment sections of our biggest newspapers and news stations, but when they're in the voting booth again, most of them will be too cowardly to vote for real nationalist parties (Front National in France, FPÖ in Austria, Vlaams Belang in Flanders/Belgium) parties rather than cuckservatives (LR, ÖVP, N-VA).

I also frequent a Belgian football forum and its political subforum is quite leftist. Most of them actually recognize that the number of immigrants coming in is unsustainable and that Islam is a problem, but when you propose solutions such as these to them and suggest them to vote for nationalist parties they mock and ridicule you and give you the typical leftist responses we're all familiar with here.
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(06-06-2017 10:54 AM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  
(06-06-2017 10:22 AM)void Wrote:  Well, ok, if you spin it like this. Of course the citizens are responsible for voting the politicians. But I am quite sure they did not vote for the invasion of Iraq or for Merkel to open the flood-gates. These decisions were made without concern about average Joe.

Merkel's stated reason to open the borders, was to prevent ugly pictures at the borders of Germany. (and probably in secret the population replacement plan that requires at least 200k immigrants per year to keep the population stable)
The citizens of Germany are guilty of voting in a globalist puppet, a woman without children, a leader without a vision.

We will see in September if Merkel get's voted in one last time to hit the nail on the coffin. Unfortunately it will happen. After the next economic down turn shit will hit the fan and the current elite will be voted out of the parliament.

Reality is that most of the people are self-hating, ignorants, oblivious and sheepish. The "people"s reaction after every fucking attack should make this clear to you that they are a bunch of sick bastards bent on self-destruction. After the attacks on Paris I saw on my wall a bunch of chicks taking pictures on the Champs Elysees with the caption "not afraid".

Why do you need to wait for Merkel's election? You already saw the results in France. If even you cant wake up from that, how the hell do you suppose the average European does?
I do not defend "the people", I am searching for reasons why this whole shit show is happening. Also, I try to find markers when this whole thing goes from retarded Jihad to political and then civil war. Deadly attacks on right wing politicians might be good indicators for that.

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RE: London Bridge and Borough Market Attacks (June 3, 2017)
(06-06-2017 10:00 AM)TigerMandingo Wrote:  
(06-06-2017 08:33 AM)void Wrote:  I wondered why the terrorists go for civilians and not politicians.If they hated the west and our war mongering countries so much, why not target the rulers? Either killing any kind of infidel is enough and/or they do not want to hurt their supporters.

And who votes in these politicians? Laugh

This is why I don't like these assertions such as:

- "the elites hate us"
- "the politicians are traitors"
- "the globalists are waging war on the West" etc.

They all rest on the assumption that the "people are innocent". Well, they're clearly not. Tony Blair and George Bush got voted in. So did Obama, Trump, and Merkel.

So is it never the people's fault that the politicians they elect continue to wreak havoc all over the world? It's not the people's fault that they easily fall for state propaganda and refuse to engage intellectually about what's really going on?

In most elections you have a bunch of pre-approved candidates.

The Greeks even voted against austerity, but guess what - right after election they got austerity. There are a ton of cases where politicians reneged instantly after election on their promises.

The truth is that whoever issues the money, that one controls the system. Democracy in current form helps prevent riots. And that is all there is to it.

Your statements of "You voted them in" are misguided. Who would have been better - globalist puppet Romney, or puppet Obama? Politburo candidate 1 vs Politburo candidate 2 - you have the big choice dear serf!

Yes - the people let themselves be brainwashed, but guess what - the West belongs to the more rebellious ones, the other nations are even dumber - much dumber.
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(06-06-2017 11:26 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  Your statements of "You voted them in" are misguided. Who would have been better - globalist puppet Romney, or puppet Obama? Politburo candidate 1 vs Politburo candidate 2 - you have the big choice dear serf!

Yes - the people let themselves be brainwashed, but guess what - the West belongs to the more rebellious ones, the other nations are even dumber - much dumber.

Or....here's another option: don't vote. If the people refused to participate in the circlejerk known as elections, wouldn't that shake up the entire system?

Last time I checked, no one put a gun to people's heads and forced them into the voting booths. And again, if they believe they're doing a patriotic duty by voting in selfish, corrupt politicians then the blame rests entirely with them.

I'm just looking at this from the sidelines, as I have no emotional investment in the outcome here. Trump, Obama whoever - to me it's just entertainment and theater. Banana
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If you do not vote, you might as well vote for your most hated party. In our country there is no minimum participation limit.
That only leaves voting for a far-right party, for something to change.

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< Indeed - no vote, but a silent march with torches to the residences to the true owners - that would do the trick to convey the message. But guess what - even here among the more "enlightened men" I get called a conspiracy theorist, so what are the chances among the masses?

"No - they would not do it."
"No way is it that controlled, there is no "shady elite", just political corruption and things happen because of that."

I can mention actual documents like the Reece Commission on Foundations, Antony Sutton, which is extremely well researched, but it does not matter. I probably could have copies of globalist letters and they would not believe it.

If a system is that far away from the reality shown in media, entertainment and academia, then it is truly harder to believe. And that even happens when you give all the evidence, the data, it all does not matter.

A common example is vaccines - I probably have the most opposition on that front. Why? Because it is impossible that the entire medical establishment would lie about such a major thing, that vaccines were some idiotic therapies from the 17th century that were disproven for sure, but the globalists found it useful for other means? Does not matter if I cite countless whistleblowers, studies, Nobel price winners in medicine and chemistry who are opposed to vaccination, does not matter if I even quote books by the globalists. It all does not matter, because most men don't even look at the alternative data and find out for themselves whether there is some truth to it or whether there could be some truth to it. No - it is impossible, THEY WOULD NOT LIE ABOUT SOMETHING AS BIG AS THAT! It is science after all!

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So yeah - we men here don't believe in Diversity being a strength, in feminism, in Blue Pill thinking, in mass migration being great, in Islam being a religion of peace - I get it.

But it is not as if other portions of indoctrination have not taken. Because I have yet to meet a guy who spent at least 10 hours researching the alternative facts of vaccination and rejecting it all.


I remember when I "woke up", that I spent 7 hours daily for 4 months looking at all the stuff out there. There were also crazy theories which were wrong, but there was also plenty of truth out there. I was just a mainstream normie with a higher IQ, who sensed that something was wrong in the system. Red Pill came later and I literally accepted it instantly because in comparison to the other stuff out there - it can be verified by more honest observation in our own life.

Either way - shit will continue the way it does now.
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Regarding people not believing you, there is a case I really enjoyed for its absurdity. I had a talk with high IQ, well informed guy, which I consider a friend of some sort and we happened to touch upon the topic of JFK assassination.
On my saying that lots of details regarding assassination seems shady, that there are many holes in the story and that some people could easily profit of that murder, I got the following response:

"That is impossible, as its impossible for people to get around and concoct a plot to assassinate a president."

My response was that is a very weird line of thinking as conspiracies are not a rarity in the world affairs since ancient times and happen on the both local and state level on which I got similar generated response.

Its actually interesting that many lower IQ people don't have anything against the idea of conspiracy being sometimes generator of chain of events, not because they are dumb or naive. No, it simply makes more sense, especially when coupled with some key facts.
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