Post: #1

Last night, French police (more precisely, the militarized police, called gendarmerie) have been targeted by numerous, powerful mortar attacks: 40 mortar shells have been rained onto police vehicles, in a Parisian (distant) suburban area, and 3 policemen have been wounded... French Police described these mortars as "very powerful", with potentially "devastating blow" effects...

Now, you wonder why MSM has not reported about this? And you probably think, Oh, another terrorist, islamic attack... Well, you'd be wrong: nothing to do with Islam.

It is in fact the illustration of the new threat that Western Europe is facing: the organized, desperate Sub-Saharan migrants, who in this case demonstrated their might and determination.

Because, once again, last night, this attack was not islamist, the operators of the mortars were Sub-Saharan migrants (or first-generation sons-of), retaliating one year after the death of extorsionist and jail-rapist Adama Traore (death that happened after a police chase), feared member of the Senegalese mafia...

Very worrying escalation indeed: Sub-Saharan migrants have now obtained, and are stocking, mortars and other serious weapons, and they are not afraid of brutally attacking whole native police forces, in our European States. And millions of them enter Europe, illegally, each year (thanks to Merkel and Obama, who killed Al Khadafi), so the problem will only worsen, fast!

http://www.lefigaro.fr/actualite-france/...traore.php

"Samedi après-midi, une marche en mémoire d'Adama Traoré, reliant la gare de Persan au quartier Boyenval à Beaumont, où vit la famille Traoré à 45 kilomètres au nord de Paris, avait réuni un millier de personnes

Vers 00H40, une quarantaine d'individus cagoulés ont attaqué au mortier un équipage de gendarmerie qui était posté à l'extérieur du quartier Boyenval, a indiqué une source proche de l'enquête.

Selon elle, les assaillants ont utilisé «des mortiers très puissants, avec des effets de souffle importants». Au total, les gendarmes ont essuyé «quarante tirs directs de mortiers» visant les véhicules et les militaires, dont trois ont été blessés"

Read also, http://www.valeursactuelles.com/societe/...aore-59738

Post: #2

For several years now I've kept it to myself that mortar attacks would be the ultimate face of perpetual terror in Europe and abroad. I kept that to myself on the slimmest margin of a possibility that some Mohammedean nut bar would read my writing and have an idea where previously none existed.

I first realised that this was an inevitability while reading an old 70's copy of a gun magazine that contained an advertisement. "Send x dollars plus postage to receive your own plans for building a home made beer can mortar" and it occurred to me just how easy it would be to make something like this.

Not that these animals even have to make them when they can get the real thing from their inbred cousins back in Islamistan.

The realistic security zone for every event in Europe has now moved into the realm of 5 miles, which is to say that the idea of a security zone has been reduced to the status of a joke. These things can be fired to maximum range with extremely limited setup time from any point where a 45 degree line of sight is not obscured.

For these bastards, setting up in an alley 3 miles away from a packed soccer stadium is going to be like hitting the broad side of a barn, and the ensuing stampede is going to kill more than the blasts.

You'd be damn right that the MSM isn't going to report on this. Because this is the spear of God for the jihadis, able to strike anywhere, any time.

Or in other words, shit just got real.

p.s. I'm aware this was not a jihad attack, but you can be sure that the jihadis are not going to be outdone by common criminals.

Post: #3

Truth be told, as these war-grade events are coordinated by the Senegalese mafia, there are Islamist undertones at play, here. The Senegalese probably obtained their mortars through Islamist channels... though Senegal itself is a very moderate Muslim country - but, I mean, certainly the Sub-Saharan illegals often are teaming up with Islamist gangs, in Europe.

In any case, French media are talking about "skirmishes", withholding details, and trying to talk instead about the end of the Tour de France.

So today the whole world will admire the beautiful streets of Paris full of pro cyclists, while at the same time, 45 kilometers away, and unbeknownst to the world, mortar shells are lobbed onto police cars by illegal migrants. A sinister farce, that will not end well for Western Euope.

Post: #4

I'm having a hard time believing actual mortars are being used in the middle of urban areas of France. The military would throw a shit fit. Where is the video evidence? I haven't seen a single picture or scrap of evidence to show actual mortars being used.

I checked all the usual channels and nothing.

Post: #5

^^ True I rather latch on to the belief that this is not happening or being sensationalised. Like an ostrich with his head in the sand. Although I originally thought the same about Frankfurt last new years. If this is happening, it must be leaked out at some point, you cannot keep something so blatant such as this locked up.

Post: #6

I have a lot of respect for the French Police, they have to be up there on par with the Israeli police now. None of this LGBT flag waving, dancing on X factor soft approach which the British police perpetuate.

Post: #7

We've seen the kind of hardware that various authorities have captured when raiding mosques and caches stored near them.

It should come as no surprise that if you can smuggle in a crate of AK47s and grenades then you can smuggle in a dozen mortars and a serviceable tube.

I honestly suspect that the only reason this hasn't been done until now is that once this barrier is crossed in the public eye then there can be no more delusions.

When Monsieur Frenchy is sitting at his beloved soccer game knowing that at any second a mortar could come flying in and turn him to jam, knowing that it happened the week before in another stadium and the week before that in another still then there is no solution left but ethnic cleansing. You simply cannot secure a single metropolitan area anywhere in the world from one of these attacks once the weapons are in the wrong hands.

Hence I think groups like ISIS have specifically avoided these tactics knowing that once they take this road then the war for the European caliphate will have begun in earnest.

Meanwhile all such attacks will be rabidly reframed by the authorities as "suicide bombers" no matter the evidence to the contrary, for precisely the same reason. Once the cat is out of the bag on mortar attacks then the dominoes will start to fall rather rapidly.

Post: #8

Most of these countries (including the US) have laws against levying of war, but are too pussyfoot to use them.

I know it's unrelated, but 9/11 was levying of war, and we didn't need any new laws.

This is levying of war and war is the appropriate response, even if it means kicking ass all across the hell holes these people came from. Death sentences for treason for anyone who helps the enemy.

Vive la France.

Post: #9

(07-23-2017 10:42 AM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  I'm having a hard time believing actual mortars are being used in the middle of urban areas of France. The military would throw a shit fit. Where is the video evidence? I haven't seen a single picture or scrap of evidence to show actual mortars being used.

I checked all the usual channels and nothing.

It is reported (though downplayed) in the number one, not sensationalist, centrist media in France, Le Figaro (one of the oldest and most respected media of the world, though a cucked one). There is no doubt it happened last night. Le Figaro cannot invent something like that.

Note: it was not the military that was targeted, it was the Gendarmerie, which is a kind of elite, partially militarized, often provincial, and very Conservative force.

Post: #10

(07-23-2017 10:46 AM)Constitution45 Wrote:  I have a lot of respect for the French Police, they have to be up there on par with the Israeli police now. None of this LGBT flag waving, dancing on X factor soft approach which the British police perpetuate.

A few months ago, socialist and much-hated president Flamby, forced the whole French police force, to stand at attention and pay respect to a deceased gay-activist male cop, in couple with another male cop, both members of a LGBT police syndicate. Later on, this deceased cop was posthumously married to his gay partner...

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Shows that Globalists destroy everything. Systematically, through their 2 main weapons, immigration and LGBT.

Post: #11

The Adama Traoré event was total BS, another low-level immigrant thug portrayed as a police brutality victim. He was supposedly sodomised by a broom stick but there were no traces of that in the medical examination. His brother was apprehended for attempted murder on a policeman.

The French government and deep state is trying to build up a BLM-type social tension in France. Macron's people are the same as Hollande's, and even worse, because their PR is slicker.

Here is a good rundown in French:

https://www.egaliteetreconciliation.fr/A...40763.html

Post: #12

(07-23-2017 10:08 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  For several years now I've kept it to myself that mortar attacks would be the ultimate face of perpetual terror in Europe and abroad. I kept that to myself on the slimmest margin of a possibility that some Mohammedean nut bar would read my writing and have an idea where previously none existed.

I first realised that this was an inevitability while reading an old 70's copy of a gun magazine that contained an advertisement. "Send x dollars plus postage to receive your own plans for building a home made beer can mortar" and it occurred to me just how easy it would be to make something like this.

Not that these animals even have to make them when they can get the real thing from their inbred cousins back in Islamistan.

The realistic security zone for every event in Europe has now moved into the realm of 5 miles, which is to say that the idea of a security zone has been reduced to the status of a joke. These things can be fired to maximum range with extremely limited setup time from any point where a 45 degree line of sight is not obscured.

For these bastards, setting up in an alley 3 miles away from a packed soccer stadium is going to be like hitting the broad side of a barn, and the ensuing stampede is going to kill more than the blasts.

You'd be damn right that the MSM isn't going to report on this. Because this is the spear of God for the jihadis, able to strike anywhere, any time.

Or in other words, shit just got real.

p.s. I'm aware this was not a jihad attack, but you can be sure that the jihadis are not going to be outdone by common criminals.

Unfortunately, without getting into details, I can say with certainty you are entirely correct. This story demands more reporting, particular to know what specific mortars were used, be they homemade or otherwise.

In the height of the Iraq war, in an active war zone void of most civilians, these attacks were nearly impossible to prevent against hardened military targets. They are even harder to actually track down after the fact. In any kind of populated mixed and populated community, it becomes impossible to stop without a serious full scale military mobilization and subsequent semi-permanent occupation to sweep through the affected area. These types of solutions are not sustainable without permanently mobilizing and empowering the police and military.

I can only naively hope that this is some sort of mis-reported or heavily exaggerated story, since life will get much more unpleasant for everyone, including and especially for the disgruntled migrants.

Post: #13

Those armed African gangs are French deep state operations. They used to just do the lower-level drug running operations, with most of the money going to the top, and now they're branching out into terror and BLM-type hardcore SJW politics. It's weaponized wedge politics (figuratively, and literally in this case), we shouldn't fall for it.

There are a lot of lower-level policemen and Gendarmerie rank and file who are on to this game, but the upper brass is getting purged.

Post: #14

So nobody has uploaded this to liveleak?

Post: #15

This is exactly how the Israelis feel with impending 'rocket' attacks. At any moment some Palestinian mortar could come flying over the fence and land on your family picnic.

The communities that these are launched from should know that they will have hell to pay if they let these young men do this. The military will know what ghetto it came from and will demand the community hand over the combatant. Of course they won't and things will slide evermore toward the trouble the we know is coming. If they keep it up, and when mortars start being launched it is a given, door to door searches and instilling fear is the only logical next step.

Its unfortunate, but the 20th century has been full of mistakes just like all history and we are now seeing things unfold in our adult years. We are not so special, it happens to most generations.

Post: #16

(07-23-2017 11:37 AM)Robert High Hawk Wrote:  In the height of the Iraq war, in an active war zone void of most civilians, these attacks were nearly impossible to prevent against hardened military targets. They are even harder to actually track down after the fact. In any kind of populated mixed and populated community, it becomes impossible to stop without a serious full scale military mobilization and subsequent semi-permanent occupation to sweep through the affected area. These types of solutions are not sustainable without permanently mobilizing and empowering the police and military.

Yep. In an urban area, you need two things to be able to effectively counter these attacks both operating simultaneously at the time the attack happens: a defensive radar that can pinpoint the shell's point of origin, and aerial surveillance that is close enough to the general area that it can observe the area within moments.

At least at this stage. Once they figure out you can track that then they get smart and do things like using a block of ice that melts so that the people firing the mortar are long gone by the time the weapon actually goes off.

Post: #17

This immediately brings back studies of paramilitary terrorism such as the IRA's tactics. They had knowledge of creating 'homemade' mortars which they fixed in the back of vans after cutting a hole in the roof. They could effectively fire from considerable distance and immediately drive off, making detection almost impossible.

One of the most famous examples of this was a 1991 attack on 10 Downing Street.

Quote:The Army Council instead sanctioned a mortar attack on Downing Street, and in mid-1990 two IRA members travelled to London to plan the attack. One of the IRA members was knowledgeable about the trajectory of mortars and the other, from the IRA's Belfast Brigade, was familiar with their manufacture.

An active service unit bought a Ford Transit van and rented a garage, and an IRA co-ordinator procured the explosives and materials needed to make the mortars. The IRA unit began making the mortars and cutting a hole in the roof of the van for the mortars to be fired through.

They reconnoitred locations in Whitehall to find a suitable place from which the mortars could be fired at the back of 10 Downing Street, the Prime Minister's official residence and office. Once preparations were complete the two IRA members returned to Ireland, as the IRA leadership considered them valuable personnel and did not wish to risk them being arrested in any follow-up operation by the security services.

The IRA were known to attend terrorist training camps around the world where disparate groups would trade knowledge and tactics. Wouldn't surprise me if the knowledge to create mortars was passed on and found its way to France today.

Edit:

Found some more information about PIRA mortar use. Effective range seems to be from 75 to 275m.

Quote:These mortars have been used by the Real IRA, who also developed their own fuzing system, in the 2000s. Furthermore, what appears to be a similar or identical mortar technology has been used since 1998 by the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (FARC). ETA in Spain was in 2001 rumoured to have built mortars "very similar" to the IRA's.

The possible transfer of this mortar technology to the FARC was a central issue in the arrest in August 2001 and later trial of the so-called Colombia Three group of IRA members who were alleged by Colombian authorities and the United States House Committee on Foreign Affairs to have trained FARC in the manufacture and use of this mortar technology.

Post: #18

Could it be the case that the mortars are 'fireworks' mortars?

Those things: legally available in France

Post: #19

(07-23-2017 11:33 AM)911 Wrote:  The Adama Traoré event was total BS, another low-level immigrant thug portrayed as a police brutality victim. He was supposedly sodomised by a broom stick but there were no traces of that in the medical examination. His brother was apprehended for attempted murder on a policeman.

I think you are mistaking the Traore dude, who was an extortionist and jail rapist from a well-known, low-life and brutal, Muslim Senegalese crime family, with another African migrant, Theo, who is younger, and was considered during months by French media as a saint, "brutally sodomized by raycist French policemen"... (supposedly, according to the media, Theo, when fighting 5 native French policemen, had received a tonfa in the arse, but in reality, Theo had just been sodomized that very morning by an Arab gang for a debt he had not paid - Theo put the sodomy on the cops)

Until a patriot policeman leaked the police dossier on Theo, and surprise, surprise, turns out the innocent migrant had stolen with his brothers 350.000 euros from the French State , by creating false, dummy refugees and asking for money for them.

I can also tell you that this other dude, Theo, happens to be from a... very, very rich family of Cameroon, yet all members of the family claim social help and unemployment money in France.

Post: #20

(07-23-2017 05:11 PM)Lime Wrote:  Could it be the case that the mortars are 'fireworks' mortars?

Those things: legally available in France

I don't know, but French police (well, gendarmery, something like a cross between the National Guard and Sheriffs) stated that the mortars (or its shells) had "powerful, high blow effect". So it has to be serious weaponry... The silence of the media on this is stunning, considering the security repercussions, well noted by forum members here...

Post: #21

Urban war indeed: the French police had to fire 30 gas grenades at the migrants, to retake control of the roofs of the area, from which "powerful mortars, the most powerful seen as yet in these situations" had been used.

http://www.leparisien.fr/beaumont-sur-oi...152246.php



"Trente minutes d’affrontements qualifiés «d’extrêmement violents» par les gendarmes : les heurts qui ont éclaté vers 0h40 dans la nuit de samedi à dimanche à Beaumont-sur-Oise (Val-d'Oise) ont fait cinq blessés parmi les militaires, indique le groupement de gendarmerie du Val-d’Oise, qui évoque des traumatismes sonores. En cause, des mortiers plus puissants, et jusqu’à présent inédits sur le secteur, tirés par les émeutiers. "

Post: #22

Something is afoot these last couple days.

A week ago there was a huge altercation just outside my apartment, could watch it from the window. Riot police were trying to arrest 4 rascals. The vagabonds threw a fucking flashbang! A fucking flashbang!

Guess what? 2 of them escaped. Almost a whole platoon-size force of police, couldn't manage to catch 4 young trouble makers. Is it some Hollywood movies or shit?

We all know these attacks are inevitable. I just wish they stop attacking the police and target the true sinners. The same sheeps who think that candle vigils and love and peace trump hate and think protecting yourself is the worst crime under the sun.

As ever, violence culled the weak. This is better than an open, all out war when the alpha men will be sent off to die and the women and beta cowered behind safe doors and then surrender "peacefully", exactly how it happened in France WWII. Over 200,000 French soldiers died trying to stems the German attacks, only for Parisian whores to bed German soldiers after. In an urban terror scheme like this however, the alpha survivalists have better chance of surviving and the retarded SJW will get killed in droves hanging around their englighteners.

EDIT: thinking back, it was fucking stupid to watch the whole thing from the window. Shoulda told my rommate to get the fuck down "INCOMING"!!! Chances are they got guns and you would get some lead flying your way real quick.

We need a thread about surviving in a danger zone: good practices, things to stock up, proper awareness, etc.

Post: #23

Normal day in the City of Love - the soon no longer most popular tourist destination in the world. Glad I stayed there before the vibrancy got so big.

Post: #24

amazing that there is 0 coverage of this. search on DDG for "paris mortar attack" gives nothing except for this forum link as the 3rd result. anyone have any more details or sources?

Post: #25

(07-23-2017 06:04 PM)Going strong Wrote:  I think you are mistaking the Traore dude, who was an extortionist and jail rapist from a well-known, low-life and brutal, Muslim Senegalese crime family, with another African migrant, Theo, who is younger, and was considered during months by French media as a saint, "brutally sodomized by raycist French policemen"... (supposedly, according to the media, Theo, when fighting 5 native French policemen, had received a tonfa in the arse, but in reality, Theo had just been sodomized that very morning by an Arab gang for a debt he had not paid - Theo put the sodomy on the cops)

Not to derail this thread, but is this really what happend in the end? Arabs sodomizing him?