Post: #2076

(05-18-2017 09:38 PM)robreke Wrote:  For girls you're seeing who are significantly younger and that you wouldn't mind an LTR with, what's the consensus on lying about your age?

I don't know what the consensus is except that its not necessary.

Now, if you fib a little, say from 45 to 39, you might at the margins have a few more opportunities, especially with girls 18-25 who might get freaked out by a 40 number.

But if you subconsciously think its necessary, you have the wrong frame and won't be successful. Since you are asking, seriously consider if that applies to you.

Post: #2077

(05-18-2017 11:21 PM)samsamsam Wrote:  

(05-18-2017 09:54 PM)DimeBait Wrote:  FYI, I pay cash for my TRT Gel (actually lotion) generic compound from a compounding pharmacy. I'm payin $50/month. Insurance covers Dr. visits and blood tests. Highly suggest looking into it if interested in saving some $$

So from what I have read, if you go on TRT, you should be on it the rest of your life. Does that apply to gel/lotion also? I'm not sure if it works the same as injections. Thanks.

This is a big misconception, you don't have to take it for the rest of your life.

Low T could be a sign of a deeper problem, like being over-weight, drinking too much, smoking, diet etc.

There is a co-relation between belly fat and low Test.

As I have mentioned countless times on different threads, I have taken Test Sustanon in the past. The stuff was like a turbo boost for me and I felt like 16 again, not sure if that is always a good thing.

Post: #2078

(05-19-2017 06:19 AM)Hypno Wrote:  But if you subconsciously think its necessary, you have the wrong frame and won't be successful. Since you are asking, seriously consider if that applies to you.

I agree. A few weekends ago I was talking to this girl in her late 20's. Granted I did ask her her age first, so I knew the question was going to be reciprocated to me. I said "guess". She said 33 (I just turned 40 last month). And I get that a lot...I don't look my age. But I corrected her and said 40. She looked surprised and said they typical "you don't look 40" response. The conversation kind of tapered off after that and afterwards I couldn't help but acknowledge that was the point when it took a downturn.

So I thought...damn, should I just start saying I'm 35? No. Fuck that. I am 40 and I look good for that and if a woman can't appreciate that fact then off to the next whore. I'm not going to lie about my age. I shouldn't need to.

The man doesn't validate himself to the woman. The woman validates herself to the man.

Post: #2079

(05-19-2017 11:11 AM)[email protected] Wrote:  So I thought...damn, should I just start saying I'm 35? No. Fuck that. I am 40 and I look good for that and if a woman can't appreciate that fact then off to the next whore. I'm not going to lie about my age. I shouldn't need to.

The man doesn't validate himself to the woman. The woman validates herself to the man.

^^^ EXACTLY THIS. Screen out bitches that aren't DOWN with the age gap. She prefers a bitch ass millennial beard boi? A man whom I out lift, out live, out experience, out fuck and out earn on the daily? Have at it, bitch, and thanks for letting me know. Next. You want bitches that want an alternative to that beard boi shit and have the courage to act on their desire.

That said, you've got to give young girls cover, i.e. airtight plausible deniability. Encourage her to keep/get a clearnet borefriend for social shit, stay the fuck off social media, let that bitch do WHATEVER she wants and don't ask, as long as she's fuckn you like the LDOE.

Post: #2080

(05-19-2017 11:11 AM)[email protected] Wrote:  

(05-19-2017 06:19 AM)Hypno Wrote:  But if you subconsciously think its necessary, you have the wrong frame and won't be successful. Since you are asking, seriously consider if that applies to you.

I agree. A few weekends ago I was talking to this girl in her late 20's. Granted I did ask her her age first, so I knew the question was going to be reciprocated to me. I said "guess". She said 33 (I just turned 40 last month). And I get that a lot...I don't look my age. But I corrected her and said 40. She looked surprised and said they typical "you don't look 40" response. The conversation kind of tapered off after that and afterwards I couldn't help but acknowledge that was the point when it took a downturn.

So I thought...damn, should I just start saying I'm 35? No. Fuck that. I am 40 and I look good for that and if a woman can't appreciate that fact then off to the next whore. I'm not going to lie about my age. I shouldn't need to.

The man doesn't validate himself to the woman. The woman validates herself to the man.

Good post, but realize that you are the one who framed the interaction based on age, not life experiences, interests, athleticism, etc. She was fine with it until you brought it up. Subconsiously maybe you don't think you are worthy of such a young woman? Its an easy trap to fall into, and takes practice to avoid.

Next time reframe the interaction by reminding yourself that this young woman and others are interested in you, and ask them questions to get them to validate themselves to you to determine whether you are interested in them.

Talk about anything you are into. If she has no experience, but you describe it with enough passion, you'll create interest. "I'm really into playing electric ukeleles. Have you ever heard someone jam on an electric ukelele? man, its the most amazing sound, you should check it out blah blah blah. " I'm being absurd but if you talk about traveling to Europe or hiking the Appalachian trail, she might not have done that yet at her age but might be very interested to hear about it.

Post: #2081

I put 39 on my dating profiles, but then say i'm 41 in my bio. Most bishes will cut-off their searches at 39.

Post: #2082

(05-18-2017 09:38 PM)robreke Wrote:  For girls you're seeing who are significantly younger and that you wouldn't mind an LTR with, what's the consensus on lying about your age?

I really hope you meant OPEN LTR or MULTIPLE LTR and not exclusive LTR.

Post: #2083

(05-19-2017 11:42 AM)Hypno Wrote:  

(05-19-2017 11:11 AM)[email protected] Wrote:  

(05-19-2017 06:19 AM)Hypno Wrote:  But if you subconsciously think its necessary, you have the wrong frame and won't be successful. Since you are asking, seriously consider if that applies to you.

I agree. A few weekends ago I was talking to this girl in her late 20's. Granted I did ask her her age first, so I knew the question was going to be reciprocated to me. I said "guess". She said 33 (I just turned 40 last month). And I get that a lot...I don't look my age. But I corrected her and said 40. She looked surprised and said they typical "you don't look 40" response. The conversation kind of tapered off after that and afterwards I couldn't help but acknowledge that was the point when it took a downturn.

So I thought...damn, should I just start saying I'm 35? No. Fuck that. I am 40 and I look good for that and if a woman can't appreciate that fact then off to the next whore. I'm not going to lie about my age. I shouldn't need to.

The man doesn't validate himself to the woman. The woman validates herself to the man.

Good post, but realize that you are the one who framed the interaction based on age, not life experiences, interests, athleticism, etc. She was fine with it until you brought it up. Subconsiously maybe you don't think you are worthy of such a young woman? Its an easy trap to fall into, and takes practice to avoid.

Next time reframe the interaction by reminding yourself that this young woman and others are interested in you, and ask them questions to get them to validate themselves to you to determine whether you are interested in them.

Talk about anything you are into. If she has no experience, but you describe it with enough passion, you'll create interest. "I'm really into playing electric ukeleles. Have you ever heard someone jam on an electric ukelele? man, its the most amazing sound, you should check it out blah blah blah. " I'm being absurd but if you talk about traveling to Europe or hiking the Appalachian trail, she might not have done that yet at her age but might be very interested to hear about it.

@ Hypno Agreed

You shouldn't directly answer their questions anyway (they're shit tests even if subconsciously administered by her ). Pivot, redirect and steer it where want it to go.

Example of classic pivot Ive used many times in different variations

Her "So how old are you?

PT "Thats not the question you should be asking."

Her "What do you mean?"

PT "The question is whether or not you're mature enough for me"

Her "Ha ha...no really how..."

Cut her off

PT "My last GF was 22 and already had her Masters and knew a lot about great wines. Have you ever been to Napa Valley/ Burgundy region of France?"

Her "Uhh.... no"

PT "Mm really?...thats too bad. It's amazing (interject story about a weekend there) How about the Caribbean / Europe? "

She's a young chick that likely doesn't know shit and has never done shit. Why the fuck would or should an established well traveled man EVER be qualifying himself to her?

Post: #2084

(05-19-2017 11:11 AM)[email protected] Wrote:  

(05-19-2017 06:19 AM)Hypno Wrote:  But if you subconsciously think its necessary, you have the wrong frame and won't be successful. Since you are asking, seriously consider if that applies to you.

I agree. A few weekends ago I was talking to this girl in her late 20's. Granted I did ask her her age first, so I knew the question was going to be reciprocated to me. I said "guess". She said 33 (I just turned 40 last month). And I get that a lot...I don't look my age. But I corrected her and said 40. She looked surprised and said they typical "you don't look 40" response. The conversation kind of tapered off after that and afterwards I couldn't help but acknowledge that was the point when it took a downturn.

So I thought...damn, should I just start saying I'm 35? No. Fuck that. I am 40 and I look good for that and if a woman can't appreciate that fact then off to the next whore. I'm not going to lie about my age. I shouldn't need to.

The man doesn't validate himself to the woman. The woman validates herself to the man.

However, she lost interest because of your age right?

If you'd have lied or at least reframed as PT suggests, the bang may have been forthcoming.

Post: #2085

http://www.boredpanda.com/handsome-old-men/

A friend of mine is in his late 40s and does some modeling, I have been considering doing it for a bit of fun and to give my workouts some extra incentive; I stumbled across this, older male modles, some of these dudes have better bodies than I ever did and i used to train hard in my 20s. I find it quite inspirational actually. They rock the rugged beard look. These boys are rockin some serious style !

I have said before on this thread I get more attention at 42 than I ever did in my 20s. Nowdays I have zero time for sad sacks who make themselves feel old before their time. Enjoy the good times fellas.

   

   

Post: #2086

(05-20-2017 06:42 AM)kazz Wrote:  I have said before on this thread I get more attention at 42 than I ever did in my 20s. Nowdays I have zero time for sad sacks who make themselves feel old before their time. Enjoy the good times fellas.

^^

Post: #2087

I say I am 33-35. I have no shame.

Post: #2088

Tell the girl you are 39, to them 40 sounds old.

They may have a parent that is in their 40's, so right away they think you are X years younger that their mom.

Post: #2089

(05-14-2017 02:38 PM)Travesty Wrote:  ^ What's your story when you talk to these girls?

The common one I ask older guys day gaming college girls (any guy 25+):

- Do you lie that you are a grad student or taking some sort of classes?
- Do you lie about your age?
- Do you go strictly direct ever?
- Do you try to dress younger & more athletic (i.e. no suit, slacks, button up or dress shoes), wear a backpack, laptop bag etc... to look more grad student-like?

Nope.
Rarely. I look younger so they don't believe me anyway if I give my real age.
Sure. I've had 20-yr old coeds in a hotel room in under 60 mins from first meet. One drink and bounce.
Always suited up usually tie and pocket square and cufflinks. If it's 90+ I might rock some custon-made jeans but with an expensive bespoke jacket. Or I might rock my summer-weight suits. Wool breathes.

Post: #2090

(05-17-2017 08:44 AM)rudebwoy Wrote:  ^I co sign with what you wrote here.

Personally, I think older dudes should stay away from suits unless it is for work. It screams provider and that is a look no one on this thread wants.

My experience is the opposite and the only things college girls ask me for is drinks and the occasional app.

Quote:Being over 40, you should have a few bucks to spend on decent garments.

Again clothing is just an accessory to cover up your nice body.

Lose the belly boys.

You look great you feel great, no two ways about it. Cosign all the rest.

Post: #2091

(05-17-2017 01:52 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  A great line of clothing is AllSaints.

http://www.allsaints.com

Another fashion label is John Varvatos.

http://www.johnvarvatos.com

Both of these designers make edgy clothing, but they are not cheap. I tend to source the cheaper version on ASOS.com.

A good leather jacket does wonders for a guy, a bad looking one does the complete opposite. I saw a really nice one at Topman recently, still kicking myself for not grabbing it.

I talk more about dressing on my blog, if you care to read. I think it is time for another article.

Yes, in my hardcore clubbing days in NYC/Miami/Europe/Vegas I rocked a ton of allSaints and love Varvatos too especially his older shoe designs.

Post: #2092

(05-20-2017 11:31 AM)rudebwoy Wrote:  Tell the girl you are 39, to them 40 sounds old.

They may have a parent that is in their 40's, so right away they think you are X years younger that their mom.

To any young girl anything over 30-34 sounds 'old' if you're worried about it. If she wants to have sex with she won't care at all. I was mid-fuck with a 19-yr old a few years ago and she said out of nowhere 'Are you like 35?' No. '38?' Nope. '39 40 41...' Something like that.

She kept going the whole time and absolutely did not care. This was after we were fucking for a month or so and kept fucking for about 6 more. They really don't care.

I don't know how many girls I've banged this year who are less than half my age, but it's definitely a bunch. I got two lined up for next month that will be 25 years younger, they're still in college. One plate I just had to block because she was texting me daily to come over and fuck her when her mom was out of the house lol.

You want the ones that WANT you to be older! Fish in the stocked pond, not some random hole and hope to get lucky or guess lucky on answers. Lying is somewhat beta anyway. Re-frame, re-direct as others said. Of course use Game to get the notch, so that requires changing on the fly. .

Most of them know I am their ~Mom's age or older. Never forget chicks love to compete. Fucking a hotter guy than their Dad is a huge turnon/fantasy for these chicks. One texted me to come out tonight but I'm making her wait two days because I'm beat after the weekend. Need more sleep!


My Fat% is just under 16%. You don't have to be a ripped Adonis and they're not looking to you for that anyway. Too ripped is much more of a turnoff than a small amount of extra weight. Obviously, fitter is better not arguing that.

Post: #2093

Thanks for the AllSaints & Varvatos recs guys. I think the Varvatos may have to wait a little bit for me as my American Express Black is still coming in the mail...

Post: #2094

This 19-yr hot Cubana from MDCC saw me in allSaints in a club a few years ago and jumped all over me like a golden retriever puppy, grinding me, kissing, stroking me on the dance floor. We banged 2-3x a day in my hotel until Sunday and before I had to leave to catch my flight asked me,

'Can you take me to allSaints?'

It was damn funny. Probably still the best sex I ever had.

Post: #2095

(05-21-2017 05:27 PM)DonnyGately Wrote:  You want the ones that WANT you to be older! Fish in the stocked pond, not some random hole and hope to get lucky or guess lucky on answers. Lying is somewhat beta anyway.

This!^^ I completely agree DonnyGately, but so far I have only been able to locate that pond via online, with the rare real life chance encounter turning into something. Where do you go fishing?

I never lie about my age, I've got graying hair and salt-and-pepper beard and I dress my age, elegantly.

Post: #2096

Ralph Lauren's website also has stylish clothing for the more conservative but current fashion for everyday wear. 90 percent of my wardrobe is Polo, avoid the shirts with large horses though, they are 2012ish for my taste.

Post: #2097

(05-21-2017 05:27 PM)DonnyGately Wrote:  

(05-20-2017 11:31 AM)rudebwoy Wrote:  Tell the girl you are 39, to them 40 sounds old.

They may have a parent that is in their 40's, so right away they think you are X years younger that their mom.

To any young girl anything over 30-34 sounds 'old' if you're worried about it. If she wants to have sex with she won't care at all. I was mid-fuck with a 19-yr old a few years ago and she said out of nowhere 'Are you like 35?' No. '38?' Nope. '39 40 41...' Something like that.

She kept going the whole time and absolutely did not care. This was after we were fucking for a month or so and kept fucking for about 6 more. They really don't care.

I don't know how many girls I've banged this year who are less than half my age, but it's definitely a bunch. I got two lined up for next month that will be 25 years younger, they're still in college. One plate I just had to block because she was texting me daily to come over and fuck her when her mom was out of the house lol.

You want the ones that WANT you to be older! Fish in the stocked pond, not some random hole and hope to get lucky or guess lucky on answers. Lying is somewhat beta anyway. Re-frame, re-direct as others said. Of course use Game to get the notch, so that requires changing on the fly. .

Most of them know I am their ~Mom's age or older. Never forget chicks love to compete. Fucking a hotter guy than their Dad is a huge turnon/fantasy for these chicks. One texted me to come out tonight but I'm making her wait two days because I'm beat after the weekend. Need more sleep!


My Fat% is just under 16%. You don't have to be a ripped Adonis and they're not looking to you for that anyway. Too ripped is much more of a turnoff than a small amount of extra weight. Obviously, fitter is better not arguing that.

Do you run game around campus?

Post: #2098

(05-17-2017 07:47 AM)Travesty Wrote:  The biggest mistake I see older guys make are short sleeve button ups or polos.

It depends. If you get them, and wear them, off the rack from JCPenny, then yes, they'll look awful. Buf it you get them tailored, then there is nothing wrong with them. I'm down 45 pounds and I got my polos shortened because they were too long. Now, I look pretty good, and got some looks this weekend from some of the moms at my daughter's Girl Scout event. It helps that my biceps are getting bigger, making it look even better. I jsut got 4 polo shirts tailored, by an Italian-born and trained professional, for a total of $12.

Post: #2099

(05-22-2017 12:43 PM)jbird669 Wrote:  

(05-17-2017 07:47 AM)Travesty Wrote:  The biggest mistake I see older guys make are short sleeve button ups or polos.

It depends. If you get them, and wear them, off the rack from JCPenny, then yes, they'll look awful. Buf it you get them tailored, then there is nothing wrong with them. I'm down 45 pounds and I got my polos shortened because they were too long. Now, I look pretty good, and got some looks this weekend from some of the moms at my daughter's Girl Scout event. It helps that my biceps are getting bigger, making it look even better. I jsut got 4 polo shirts tailored, by an Italian-born and trained professional, for a total of $12.

If you focus on triceps dips, and close grip underhand pull ups in the gym you will find that short sleeve shirts become tight on your upper arms-Women love that shit and will freely touch your triceps and biceps when you are out. Being in above average physical shape helps you pull off a lot of looks and take more chances with your wardrobe-You just cannot have a belly, it destroys any outfit!

Post: #2100

What if you have some muscle and a belly? Will they cancel out?