Some of the stuff you've said I agree with. Other stuff has me wondering.
You say it's easy to fake status. Every non-provincial Filipina I've met has been quite suspicious of me, even after they see my house and car. I've actually started playing down what I do for income as they don't believe me if I tell the truth.
Then you say Ks and Japs have status here. You know, I read that a lot online, but the reality is I've seen hundreds of Koreans here and only one was with a Filipina. I'm not denying that Asian men are becoming more popular, but the rumors are pretty overblown, and anyone who's actually spent time in the Philippines would know that.
Then you keep saying "just be ridiculously, ridiculously handsome like myself" without even bringing up money/status. Today at Starbucks I saw an 8.5 5'6 white girl (not EE, non-Slavic features and American accent) with a 3/10 5'3 dark-skinned fat Filipino. He had boobs. This is 10x more common than seeing a hottie with a handsome guy. You can say it's gold digging, but in my experience that's just how guys without any money cope.
Then there's just the weird way you're bragging. It's just weird. Even if you are Tom Cruise with Don Juan game -- and decided to come to some third world country to get less than what you could get elsewhere, okay -- who brags about it online? And more importantly, how is that supposed to help the Average Guy?
Sorry, but your posts reek of basement dweller fapping to delusional fantasies. Either that, or you're one of the many really handsome white guys I see climbing into trikes with Visaya-looking chubsters.
Some of the stuff you've said I agree with. Other stuff has me wondering.
You say it's easy to fake status. Every non-provincial Filipina I've met has been quite suspicious of me, even after they see my house and car. I've actually started playing down what I do for income as they don't believe me if I tell the truth.
Then you say Ks and Japs have status here. You know, I read that a lot online, but the reality is I've seen hundreds of Koreans here and only one was with a Filipina. I'm not denying that Asian men are becoming more popular, but the rumors are pretty overblown, and anyone who's actually spent time in the Philippines would know that.
Then you keep saying "just be ridiculously, ridiculously handsome like myself" without even bringing up money/status. Today at Starbucks I saw an 8.5 5'6 white girl (not EE, non-Slavic features and American accent) with a 3/10 5'3 dark-skinned fat Filipino. He had boobs. This is 10x more common than seeing a hottie with a handsome guy. You can say it's gold digging, but in my experience that's just how guys without any money cope.
Then there's just the weird way you're bragging. It's just weird. Even if you are Tom Cruise with Don Juan game -- and decided to come to some third world country to get less than what you could get elsewhere, okay -- who brags about it online? And more importantly, how is that supposed to help the Average Guy?
Sorry, but your posts reek of basement dweller fapping to delusional fantasies. Either that, or you're one of the many really handsome white guys I see climbing into trikes with Visaya-looking chubsters.
(Shots fired?)
Haha okay i'll bite.
You're extrapolating a hell of a lot, and paraphrasing what I've written very inaccurately.
On the topic of faking wealth and status - I have a background in sales, so lying to people is my profession. Sales experience translates excellently into game. Soon after starting a career in sales, my success with women started increasing dramatically. Faking wealth status is very easy. When filipinas are suspicious and start questioning me and accusing me of being a poser....this is an IOI (indication of interest). You just need to back it up and stay consistent with your stories.
Of course filipinas are suspicious! A gullible filipina is a lamb to the slaughter, especially with guys like me around. My advice is you need to work on being more convincing. Bullshitting convincingly is an art form. If you're having trouble convincing filipinas of the truth about your material worth, then I'm worried about you. But i'll admit, Filipinas are sometimes more clever than given credit for. They can sniff out a lie. You need to be watertight.
On the topic of being handsome - If you read my posts, I have actually noted that being handsome rouses a lot of suspicion initially. It then becomes lethal if you can back it up with the right sort of 'relationship-oriented' game. The girls suddenly start pinching themselves because they think they've found a handsome guy who is not a player. Being handsome can either be a help or a hinderance, depending on what comes out of your mouth when you start spitting your game.
I haven't seen the ugly guy with hot girl phenomenon you mentioned. I can't comment on it, and I'm only observing a very small area of Makati. Filipinas are more into beta bux, than alpha fux though so I can believe it. I just haven't seen it.
On the topic of Korean and Japanese guys - I didn't say that Korean and Japanese guys are doing well here in terms of fucking loads of women, I said that they enjoy a good perception from filipinas, and Korean guys are known for being generous and spoiling filipinas on dates. I was using this as a point to illustrate contributing factors to increased bitch shields in Manila, and beta behavior from white guys and koreans increasingly filipinas expectations, and making them harder for quick bangs. As I mentioned before, the guys in the Philippines who have the worst reputations are filipinos.
I know it's painful to think that there are guys like me in the Philippines who have solved the riddle of banging hot filipinas in volume and with relative ease. I also don't like it when a filipina tells me about the last white guy she was with who lied to her, pumped and dumped her and disappeared without a trace. I'd prefer less of those guys in the Philippines too so I can monopolize the market.
Yes, the Philippines is a 3rd world country, but the women here are traditional and have an old fashioned family oriented values system that is hard to find in the West. I think the prized Western woman is very overrated, and I've been with quite a few of them so I can happily make the comparison. I first got exposed to Asian women by accident when I did a student exchange program in Japan. I then go a heavy dose of filipinas when I was working in Dubai. I saved a lot of money and felt like taking some time off work, so the Philippines seemed like an ideal place to chill for 6 months. I don't intend to be here permanently.
I don't take the dim 'why go to a 3rd world country' attitude that you have. I think the Philippines offer a great deal - easy women, good value system, more purity, less western decadence. Why wouldn't I come here?
My intention is not to come here and brag. I'm an analytical guy, I've started blogging about my life here in the Philippines, and want to bounce my experiences off of (hopefully) kindred spirits here who are having similar experiences. Seems I'm the only one succeeding at my level. I'm offering a lot of really helpful and educational stuff, but I'm not getting anything back aside hurt feelings. I'm also going through a period of burn-out so I've got more time, whilst my poor broken dick recovers, to come here and respond to your posts.
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05-19-2017 05:56 AM
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(05-15-2017 08:14 PM)spiritmaze Wrote: Can totally relate to everything you said.
Treating filipinas like shit is intoxicating. I love being the evil colonial master and treating them as my cum dumpsters. However, I don't find the easy 5's satisfying at all. I like breaking down a 7 or above and turning her into my little brown cock slave.
(05-16-2017 08:36 PM)spiritmaze Wrote: Philippines is only good for quick bangs. Who wants to grind for monkey poon? I find putting effort into chasing Filipinas pretty undignified....that's the definition of desperation I reckon.
Spiritmaze, you are dangerous for the forum and traveling Westerners in general, with the sad level of hatred and contempt you openly display, against Filipino people.
Imagine a Filipino, well, even Digong himself, reading your posts... what would they think of being called "monkeys" and "little brown slaves"... and I bet you perfectly know that the President Duterte hates the "little brown brothers" treatment...
LBFM (little brown fuck machine) was a term coined by the US Army over half a century ago. Referring to Filipinas in a derogatory manner is widespread, mainstream and ancient. I'm very late to the party on this, and what i'm describing is hardly controversial.
Blogs and forums discussing filipinas as sex objects are all over the internet. If Duterte is going to get upset about it, he's going have a hard time knowing where to start. A Roosh V Forum Member discussing 'easy' Filipinas is a drop in the ocean.
I think what's really going on is you feel threatened by guys like me who are mopping up in the Philippines, and you're white knighting under the guise of being offended by my racism. I have noticed that guys in the Philippines tend to develop an ownership complex when it comes to the women here, and they don't like to hear about other guys having more success than them. I'm not saying you're one of those guys, but you share similar characteristics.
Do you seriously think you have more success than me and most forum members in the Phils?
Well, if you do, you are quite simply the king of SEA, much respect bro!
For the record, one of my Filipina ex, is a movie actress. Not big star yet, but still... I doubt you fuck so high in the social and beauty scale... by the way, if any respected, high-repped forum member is into the film industry, I'll be glad to forward this ex's CV...
You are probably, and willingly or not, a troll anyway, a new kind of troll called, I dunno, hate-fuck troll?
(05-19-2017 05:56 AM)spiritmaze Wrote: I know it's painful to think that there are guys like me in the Philippines who have solved the riddle of banging hot filipinas in volume and with relative ease. I also don't like it when a filipina tells me about the last white guy she was with who lied to her, pumped and dumped her and disappeared without a trace. I'd prefer less of those guys in the Philippines too so I can monopolize the market.
I then go a heavy dose of filipinas when I was working in Dubai. I saved a lot of money and felt like taking some time off work, so the Philippines seemed like an ideal place to chill for 6 months.
the Philippines seemed like an ideal place to chill for 6 months. : have you been to the Philippines? to Manila, or even Cebu? I mean, "ideal place to chill"? seriously? like it's Mallorca or Tahiti... have you been in traffic jams in Manila? ideal place to chill, lol...
I also don't like it when a filipina tells me about the last white guy she was with: except Filipinas (and all astute women, come to think of it) usually are careful not to talk about their former, past Western lovers, with the new one.
I can monopolize the market.: monopolize the market of tens of millions of young women? are you a virgin on a high-energy internet fantasy?
(05-15-2017 08:14 PM)spiritmaze Wrote: Can totally relate to everything you said.
Treating filipinas like shit is intoxicating. I love being the evil colonial master and treating them as my cum dumpsters. However, I don't find the easy 5's satisfying at all. I like breaking down a 7 or above and turning her into my little brown cock slave.
(05-16-2017 08:36 PM)spiritmaze Wrote: Philippines is only good for quick bangs. Who wants to grind for monkey poon? I find putting effort into chasing Filipinas pretty undignified....that's the definition of desperation I reckon.
Spiritmaze, you are dangerous for the forum and traveling Westerners in general, with the sad level of hatred and contempt you openly display, against Filipino people.
Imagine a Filipino, well, even Digong himself, reading your posts... what would they think of being called "monkeys" and "little brown slaves"... and I bet you perfectly know that the President Duterte hates the "little brown brothers" treatment...
LBFM (little brown fuck machine) was a term coined by the US Army over half a century ago. Referring to Filipinas in a derogatory manner is widespread, mainstream and ancient. I'm very late to the party on this, and what i'm describing is hardly controversial.
Blogs and forums discussing filipinas as sex objects are all over the internet. If Duterte is going to get upset about it, he's going have a hard time knowing where to start. A Roosh V Forum Member discussing 'easy' Filipinas is a drop in the ocean.
I think what's really going on is you feel threatened by guys like me who are mopping up in the Philippines, and you're white knighting under the guise of being offended by my racism. I have noticed that guys in the Philippines tend to develop an ownership complex when it comes to the women here, and they don't like to hear about other guys having more success than them. I'm not saying you're one of those guys, but you share similar characteristics.
Do you seriously think you have more success than me and most forum members in the Phils?
Well, if you do, you are quite simply the king of SEA, much respect bro!
For the record, one of my Filipina ex, is a movie actress. Not big star yet, but still... I doubt you fuck so high in the social and beauty scale... by the way, if any respected, high-repped forum member is into the film industry, I'll be glad to forward this ex's CV...
You are probably, and willingly or not, a troll anyway, a new kind of troll called, I dunno, hate-fuck troll?
Errrr bit of an awkward reply from you. Detecting a bit of cringe insecurity from you bro.
I bang mostly 7's and I haven't banged any movie stars.
I'm not a troll, but hate-fuck/hate-sex is the best kind of sex imo. So primal and brutal. I feel like an evil caveman. I'm guessing you like it slow and romantic, staring deep into her eyes. I much prefer staring deep into her asshole while nailing her from behind. Different strokes, different folks. It's all good.
(05-19-2017 07:39 AM)Going strong Wrote: the Philippines seemed like an ideal place to chill for 6 months. : have you been to the Philippines? to Manila, or even Cebu? I mean, "ideal place to chill"? seriously? like it's Mallorca or Tahiti... have you been in traffic jams in Manila? ideal place to chill, lol...
I also don't like it when a filipina tells me about the last white guy she was with: except Filipinas (and all astute women, come to think of it) usually are careful not to talk about their former, past Western lovers, with the new one.
I can monopolize the market.: monopolize the market of tens of millions of young women? are you a virgin on a high-energy internet fantasy?
I can monopolize the market.
Manila is very chill if you're staying in your condo getting laid all day. You'd struggle with the traffic because the women are making you go to pick them up in their slums. How was your bang in Bulacan by the way?
Filipinas are very forthcoming about their sexual histories if you know how to talk to them. They probably clam up as soon as you start talking about your movie star ex and prefer to keep you in the dark. I gain their trust so they tell me all their dark secrets.
I fully intended to fuck every single one of these 10's of millions of young women that you speak of. Well...the ones that are 7+ at least. Spiritmaze is a bit picky these days.
(05-15-2017 08:14 PM)spiritmaze Wrote: Can totally relate to everything you said.
Treating filipinas like shit is intoxicating. I love being the evil colonial master and treating them as my cum dumpsters. However, I don't find the easy 5's satisfying at all. I like breaking down a 7 or above and turning her into my little brown cock slave.
(05-16-2017 08:36 PM)spiritmaze Wrote: Philippines is only good for quick bangs. Who wants to grind for monkey poon? I find putting effort into chasing Filipinas pretty undignified....that's the definition of desperation I reckon.
Spiritmaze, you are dangerous for the forum and traveling Westerners in general, with the sad level of hatred and contempt you openly display, against Filipino people.
Imagine a Filipino, well, even Digong himself, reading your posts... what would they think of being called "monkeys" and "little brown slaves"... and I bet you perfectly know that the President Duterte hates the "little brown brothers" treatment...
LBFM (little brown fuck machine) was a term coined by the US Army over half a century ago. Referring to Filipinas in a derogatory manner is widespread, mainstream and ancient. I'm very late to the party on this, and what i'm describing is hardly controversial.
Blogs and forums discussing filipinas as sex objects are all over the internet. If Duterte is going to get upset about it, he's going have a hard time knowing where to start. A Roosh V Forum Member discussing 'easy' Filipinas is a drop in the ocean.
I think what's really going on is you feel threatened by guys like me who are mopping up in the Philippines, and you're white knighting under the guise of being offended by my racism. I have noticed that guys in the Philippines tend to develop an ownership complex when it comes to the women here, and they don't like to hear about other guys having more success than them. I'm not saying you're one of those guys, but you share similar characteristics.
Do you seriously think you have more success than me and most forum members in the Phils?
Well, if you do, you are quite simply the king of SEA, much respect bro!
For the record, one of my Filipina ex, is a movie actress. Not big star yet, but still... I doubt you fuck so high in the social and beauty scale... by the way, if any respected, high-repped forum member is into the film industry, I'll be glad to forward this ex's CV...
You are probably, and willingly or not, a troll anyway, a new kind of troll called, I dunno, hate-fuck troll?
Errrr bit of an awkward reply from you. Detecting a bit of cringe insecurity from you bro.
I bang mostly 7's and I haven't banged any movie stars.
I'm not a troll, but hate-fuck/hate-sex is the best kind of sex imo. So primal and brutal. I feel like an evil caveman. I'm guessing you like it slow and romantic, staring deep into her eyes. I much prefer staring deep into her asshole while nailing her from behind. Different strokes, different folks. It's all good.
Without diving into too much specifics I have had a look at his girls, and they all look pretty solid, especially if you don't care about skin tone. Averaged out I'd say 6.5 EA standards is a fair assessment.
He's not banging the creme of the crop, but far superior then most guys in the PH I suspect. Most of them are quite "cute", a handful of stunners (7+), good face, and most importantly no fatties. And looks like he has lived or currently lives in Manila.
Spiritmaze, your just a fucking wierdo and a shitty person.
Its not even the "I'm banging a new girls a day" or "I've banged 30 virgins" (which is bullshit anyways don't be so gullible), its the "no one else can do what I'm doing" and "I have a monopoly on the market" and the racist disrespectful bullshit and just the way you talk about yourself.
Thats a fucking joke man, what your doing isn't impressive, many dudes have done it, its not even hard, but for a lot of us we try to respect the women and the cultures outside of the West, your not red pilled your just a fucking dirtbag unfortunately and dudes like you are bad for the whole community.
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(05-19-2017 09:13 AM)Putin Closes Wrote: Without diving into too much specifics I have had a look at his girls, and they all look pretty solid, especially if you don't care about skin tone. Averaged out I'd say 6.5 EA standards is a fair assessment.
He's not banging the creme of the crop, but far superior then most guys in the PH I suspect. Most of them are quite "cute", a handful of stunners (7+), good face, and most importantly no fatties. And looks like he has lived or currently lives in Manila.
Ok, glad to know you can sort of vouch for the man.
Still, 2 things: firstly, if he is a "handsome", tall and young English-speaking Westerner with plenty of money (dude "works in Dubai"), then fucking HB6s of a not-favored-in-Asia "skin tone", is not extremely impressive, in the Phils. It is okay, but nothing to super-brag about.
2: if he is kinda joking when bragging about his Filipinas, then it's cool. But if he really, actually hates them and considers them monkeys, it's ludicrous and sad for him to remain in this hospitable country. The world is vast, he can go elsewhere, where pussies are not "monkeys'".
About "hate-fucks", why would one especially look for, and relish, hate-sex, over sex motivated by better things in women: beauty of face and body, sexiness, even voice or attitude... get "hate-sex" if you don't have anything better in store, don't actually look for it, I'd say. Bad karma and all...
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(05-19-2017 09:13 AM)Putin Closes Wrote: Without diving into too much specifics I have had a look at his girls, and they all look pretty solid, especially if you don't care about skin tone. Averaged out I'd say 6.5 EA standards is a fair assessment.
He's not banging the creme of the crop, but far superior then most guys in the PH I suspect. Most of them are quite "cute", a handful of stunners (7+), good face, and most importantly no fatties. And looks like he has lived or currently lives in Manila.
Ok, glad to know you can sort of vouch for the man.
Still, 2 things: firstly, if he is a "handsome", tall and young English-speaking Westerner with plenty of money (dude "works in Dubai"), then fucking HB6s of a not-favored-in-Asia "skin tone", is not extremely impressive, in the Phils. It is okay, but nothing to super-brag about.
2: if he is kinda joking when bragging about his Filipinas, then it's cool. But if he really, actually hates them and considers them monkeys, it's ludicrous and sad for him to remain in this hospitable country. The world is vast, he can go elsewhere, where pussies are not "monkeys'".
About "hate-fucks", why would one especially look for, and relish, hate-sex, over sex motivated by better things in women: beauty of face and body, sexiness, even voice or attitude... get "hate-sex" if you don't have anything better in store, don't actually look for it, I'd say. Bad karma and all...
To be fair I've never met the guy, so all I can do is verify the pics he sent me, but yeah what I suspect is "tall good looking" guy with some amount of game.
I suspect this guy just posts in a train of thought without any filter. But does need to tone it down. Relax. Enjoy the Philippines for what it is.
05-19-2017 09:44 AM
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Note: this post does not provide Philippine-specific intel, and was written in part as a response to the question "Why is crushing 1000 notches an unacceptable hobby?" in the thread 'Amount of Approaches for 1000 Notches'.
The problem with notch-chasing, and the value of female virginity
(05-15-2017 01:09 AM)spiritmaze Wrote: …I have about 400+ notches total since october 2014 and I'm 29....
Pickup can be fun and facilitate growth
I think that few guys here would deem it inherently unethical to spread your seed with legions of randoms, because:
• Seducing nubile nymphos is one of the most exciting and motivating pleasures of being a young man. What's more, heading out with your mates to pick up can be great fun.
• Gaining experience can be helpful for those with a historical disadvantage in the game who feel compelled to seek mastery of the social and sexual arenas. Increasing success with quality women can do wonders for a young man's self-confidence.
• Jumping into a serious relationship without any experience or knowledge of game is a common recipe for creeping despair due to the lack of screening ability, poor frame control, weak sense of abundance, and a naive understanding of women. (This was not always the case, as men in previous generations needed less game and sexual experience to have a successful marriage and family, and it's still dependent on your social environment. However for the typical Western man it is unwise to get married without knowing through personal experience what both good and bad girls look like).
The problem with banging around
Regular, fresh pussy pounding appears to have significantly less negative consequences for deep pair-bonding in comparison to women's experience on the female cock carousel, but men are not immune to its downsides.
Despite the suggestion that men are hard-wired to spread their seed far and wide and are therefore off the hook when it comes to playing around, there are many negative outcomes on adaptive brain processes from overstimulation of social- and sex-related rewards, two of the most powerful drivers in human behaviour. The omission of diagnosing hypersexual and compulsive sexual behavior in the DSM-V does not negate its real-life significance. As listed below, excessive banging has problematic consequences when it comes to finding a solid woman, being loyal, and feeling satisfied in a committed relationship. These points have come from my own experience (some of which I regret) along with those of fellow members, plus a range of peer-reviewed quantitative articles:
• The trend towards pessimism (e.g., “All women are potential sluts and not to be trusted”),
• Inability to bond to new partners, and decreased sensitivity of dopamine reward circuits - akin to drug desensitization (“I’ve been burnt many times so I’m gonna keep my distance”, “She’s nice but boring”, “I need new pussy to get off”)
• Fixation on quantity over quality of experience (“gotta hit that notch goal for the month”),
• Higher expectations and never-ending desire for the best possible option (“I could do better. Next”),
• Reduced enjoyment due to retrospective regret and sense of opportunity costs (“Why did I choose her? What else am I missing out on?”),
• Delayed decision-making and investment due to anticipated regret and the illusion of choice (“I’ll keep waiting until something better comes along before I invest”),
• Attitudinal leftovers from quick bangs (“Always be in control” or “never invest first”),
• Behavioural habits from fast seduction (“No lay by day3 = next”).
All of the above doesn't even touch on:
• High-risk exposure to the disturbing, increasing prevalence of STDs,
• Other health problems like poorer sleep, inhaling second-hand smoke from clubs, etc,
• Lowered work productivity and focus on a greater life purpose,
• Limited friendship groups, and more.
As a result of the above, player fatigue is an inevitable experience for almost all men as they begin to feel the diminishing returns of banging random chicks. I’ve never heard any guy say “well now that I banged 100 women… I think 100 more will double my knowledge” or “…I feel that I have accomplished something really important” or “...I’m finally happy now”.
Dagonet and Speakeasy reflect on the topic:
• "There's no question that once a man sleeps with many women, and more importantly, learns how to effectively meet and seduce new women, it's near impossible for him to "turn off" that drive. All men have a constant desire for new pussy, but only some men are easily able to get it-- and even fewer still are fully aware of this ability. Knowing you have options and could actually be sleeping with other women can drive a good-hearted man crazy."
• "Keep in mind that your desire for new pussy is insatiable. It's a hamster wheel that leads nowhere. So you will sleep with many new random girls whose names you won't remember in a year. Whatever pleasure you get from one night stands is fleeting. Not much different from an addict looking for another hit. And then another, and another. How long do you want to be on that hamster wheel?"
So, what to do? Example solutions for minimizing the problems relating to the overload of choice and sexual addictions have been offered by Barry Schwartz and others, and are linked below.
Notch-chasing is analogous to the information and stimulation overload online – people get saturated with data, entertainment, and social contact every day but it's mostly very shallow. This postmodern culture of technology-based consumption and choice supports a high quantity of short-term, low value hook-ups but comes with a number of problems for those seeking high quality, longer-term relationships.
In this sense, more choice is decidedly not better, and the potential implications reach far beyond the grasp of most people. High-speed porn, the iphone, social media, online dating and other distractions of the internet create an expectation of constant attention, immediate stimulation and entitlement to knowledge. Not to mention the creation of infinite thirst which can send a woman’s self-image into the stratosphere.
The long-term implications of these tech-based influences are yet to be seen, however the evidence so far on creativity, happiness and ongoing relationships is not encouraging
(05-17-2017 03:38 AM)spiritmaze Wrote: I think quite a bit of my exposure to virgins has been luck, and it also comes down to the type of game I run. I try to run 'husband material' game…
(05-17-2017 03:04 AM)spiritmaze Wrote: My market is conservative girls. I've actually done a huge number of virgins out here. Maybe 30 of my total notches in Manila have been virgins....
First, there is a BIG difference between (1) banging around with random well-ploughed broads who know what they’re getting into, and (2) deceiving virgin or otherwise young, naïve girls into thinking you are relationship material just to get the bang. The first, while hazardous to one's own soul in excessive amounts, can be mutually-beneficial or at the worst morally ambiguous, whereas the second is undoubtedly harmful for the women involved, no way around it.
(05-17-2017 11:28 PM)spiritmaze Wrote: …Betas flood pussy paradises and destroy them with their same pathetic pussy pedestaling that has destroyed the West. Who enabled feminism? Betas. Who cultivates and enables bitch shields and lets women get away with skanky Sex and The City lifestyles? Betas…
(05-19-2017 05:56 AM)spiritmaze Wrote: I also don't like it when a filipina tells me about the last white guy she was with who lied to her, pumped and dumped her and disappeared without a trace. I'd prefer less of those guys in the Philippines too so I can monopolize the market.
I wonder then - according to you, what is a “beta”? A guy who puts the pussy on the pedestal? Ok. Now what about a guy who pretends to be someone else just to deflower virgins? Is that, instead, the mark of an “Alpha”?
It’s gratingly hypocritical for you to complain that other guys are ruining the place, or to lament how betas are raising bitch shields when your behaviours -- including extreme at-any-cost banging and in particular lying just to smash virgins -- only add to the problems that you’re complaining about.
Lying through your teeth for the sake of pumping and dumping previously unbroken girls has a range of negative, flow-on effects which centre around sabotaging their ability to pair-bond in the future. This also makes it harder for men who are genuine in seeking a non-damaged woman to marry. And all for what? Ultimately it’s just a means to get your fix for the day, which is little more than ego validation and few moments of physical pleasure and tension release that are as fleeting as the weather.
To add some quantifiable data to the personal experiences of myself and of those here:
{A} Women who only had sex with their husband were the least likely to divorce. Put another way, virgin brides are the most reliable -
{B}Virgin brides are becoming increasingly uncommon, and conversely, women with 10+ partners are becoming increasingly prevalent -
(05-15-2017 01:09 AM)spiritmaze Wrote: Philippines is only good for quick bangs. Who wants to grind for monkey poon? I find putting effort into chasing Filipinas pretty undignified....that's the definition of desperation I reckon.
(05-15-2017 08:14 PM)spiritmaze Wrote: Treating filipinas like shit is intoxicating. I love being the evil colonial master and treating them as my cum dumpsters.
Put simply, I don't think your present values match those underlying this forum. The wide range of views here demonstrate the free-thinking nature of our membership, but there is increasing talk here about 'social decline' and family-building rather than simple advice on getting laid - and your type of approach to sex only contributes to the decline. It may be a drop in the ocean, but every drop counts. I am confident that your approach to meeting women, notably lying just for the sake of pumping and dumping virgins, will never be regarded as anything close to respectable and sustainable game.
Spinning the odd lie about your age or job title to some floozy in a club or on STInder is pretty common and does little if any damage, but using the fake promise of a potential future together to trick virgins into dropping their panties is a long way from any game worth emulating. Moreover, it is possible to be a player with a clear code of ethics, and it comes down to a few core principles like ‘don’t promise what you cannot deliver’. I personally know a few solid guys (some on this forum) who do very well with high-quality women and they don't go around spinning utter bullshit just to have sex, let alone with virginal or naïve young women. Beyond this, there are many leaders within our ranks that can serve as an inspiration to do better, notably Quintus Curtius, who I regard as one of the ethical pillars and towering intellects of our community.
(05-19-2017 05:56 AM)spiritmaze Wrote: ...the women here are traditional and have an old fashioned family oriented values system that is hard to find in the West.
(05-18-2017 07:35 AM)spiritmaze Wrote: Filipinas have a very sacred sense of their own virginity.
I wonder if you’re aware of the sizable number of men on this site who are (1) seeking out a virgin or at least a conservative, unbroken girl for a wife (e.g., Travesty), or (2) who already have discovered the value of such screening by converting one themselves (e.g., Strikeback). The fact that virgin and inexperienced women are the most reliable wives represents one of the hardest red-pill truths for people, especially women to swallow. What's more, the mission to find these women is so valuable, and so challenging, that some RVFers like Travesty are willing to travel all over the world just to find one. Even the boss himself, Roosh, has stated he would prefer a virgin wife.
To a large extent, your view and experience of the world is a reflection of yourself. So if you want a trustworthy woman, then be a trustworthy man.
(05-19-2017 03:47 AM)spiritmaze Wrote: Referring to Filipinas in a derogatory manner is widespread, mainstream and ancient... Blogs and forums discussing filipinas as sex objects are all over the internet...
I think what's really going on is you feel threatened by guys like me who are mopping up in the Philippines, and you're white knighting under the guise of being offended by my racism.
(05-19-2017 12:58 AM)spiritmaze Wrote: I understand that I have offended your fragile sensibilities...
Lots of people get robbed in the Philippines, so I'm gonna rob people too. Does that sound fair? Just because some behaviour is widespread, does not give you a moral get-out-of-free card to do it too. You other defensive prongs such as labeling the push back against your posts as "white-knighting" only provide further evidence of your need for superiority. It's clear that you enjoy feeling above other people yet fail to recognize the depth of your own limitations. Such lack of awareness is a limitation in itself because being honest with yourself is a necessary step in the journey towards self-mastery. Being a truly free thinker means adopting a critical, balanced evaluation of opinions not just from the media and other people, but also in recognizing our own self-serving biases.
While it is common for younger men to hurt a couple of girls by leading them because it's an easy way to avoid discomfort, most thankfully discover over time that faking your intentions not only hurts women but also leads to a lingering sense of shame and lowered self-confidence. Drip by drip, your soul will get poisoned. Conversely, when you develop the guts be up front, to walk away, and to not shy away from living out your true values, you start to sleep better, improve your self-respect and self-esteem, and enjoy the uplifting, ongoing pleasure inherent in authentic relationships.
We need to give both our mating and bonding compulsions serious thought, and it's up to us to resolve the conflict. After all, without the human ability to self-regulate, who wouldn’t be running around like little Sooty?
Baumeister and colleagues note: "The ability to alter one’s responses so as to bring them into line with ideals, moral values, social norms, laws, and other standards is an important key to success in life and one of the most important and distinctively human traits... Self-regulation can be the trump card of personality."
(05-19-2017 05:56 AM)spiritmaze Wrote: I'm offering a lot of really helpful and educational stuff, but I'm not getting anything back aside hurt feelings.
(05-18-2017 07:35 AM)spiritmaze Wrote: ...you are probably not deceiving girls much, treating them respectfully and playing straight, which is why it takes you longer to close them. Being honest never did me any favors
It's a bit sad that your presence here encourages guys like Zero1 to question their own honesty and connection with women as weaknesses that cost them bangs, rather than personal strengths and feelings to cherish.
I read a few of your posts but couldn't see anything "really helpful and educational". If I could summarise your game -- and I am using this word loosely here – it would be this: be very horny, be handsome, be white, do mass texting, screen for high interest and/or slutiness, don't waste time on anything but meeting them as soon as possible and near your place, call them out for flaking, fake stability, long-term intentions and other traits of a potentially ongoing suitor, then bang asap, treat them like a fuck toy, kick them out, ignore them when they contact you, next. Now, I can't see how this adds anything new here, considering there are already countless posts from similar guys from the 'path of least resistance' camp.
I know it can be tough when you feel backed into a corner online. However, people will respect you a lot more if you acknowledge your own areas for improvement or adjust your communication based on the feedback, rather than responding with counter-attacks. If you are genuine about sharing intel, my suggestion would be to reconsider your approach by asking yourself, "How can I outline my game in a more effective manner?"
While you may not have been received here with open arms, I can think of a few people who may like to hear from you. Based on your stated "entitlement", blatant disregard for Filipinas, self-centred worldview, overconfidence, and compulsive, rationalised deception, your approach could be an interesting subject for dark triad researchers, given the following passage from Jonason and colleagues: "...characteristics collectively known as the Dark Triad (i.e. narcissism, psychopathy and Machiavellianism) were correlated with various dimensions of short-term mating but not long-term mating... Findings are consistent with a view that the Dark Triad facilitates an exploitative, short-term mating strategy in men".
All flippancy aside, I would say that you have high IQ, are well-educated, have good social skills and a lot of internal drive among several other strengths. I just think it's a shame that you are not putting these abilities to good use by adding value and good vibes to the world.
(05-15-2017 07:42 AM)spiritmaze Wrote: Sex addiction is a curse my friend. My lifestyle has cost me friends and jobs. I'd still say it's been worth it, but it has huge downsides.
I don't expect you to suddenly curb your seemingly insatiable need to bang around, because such radical behaviour change usually needs to be triggered by a serious motivator -- typically pain rather than pleasure, and you don’t seem close to having an existential crisis or hitting a new low.
Still, I am writing not just in the view to give value to the readers, but also in the chance that you might consider the far-reaching consequences of breaking these women and honestly ask yourself, “Is the ongoing damage I am doing really worth a few moments of pleasure?” and "When I look back on my life, will I be proud of what I have accomplished?". There is always hope for change - sex addiction is treatable.
(05-19-2017 05:56 AM)spiritmaze Wrote: My intention is not to come here and brag... Seems I'm the only one succeeding at my level.
(05-19-2017 05:13 AM)digitalconquistador Wrote: Sorry, but your posts reek of basement dweller fapping to delusional fantasies. Either that, or you're one of the many really handsome white guys I see climbing into trikes with Visaya-looking chubsters.
If you are indeed a true Alpha Male, I’m sure you’ll have no problem backing up your online words in real life. Perhaps you can meet up with some RVFers if you'd like to disprove such skepticism and demonstrate your super game. There are plenty of members in the Philippines so this shouldn't be difficult. No matter my criticism, feel free to send me a PM when you come back to Sydney, because I believe the face-to-face context has more power to spark serious thought and change.
I don't have a problem with you banging tinder sluts night after night, but at least show some integrity and decency by walking away from virginal or naive, unbroken girls. I am confident this will make you feel better about yourself, and this inner peace will last far longer than the ever-fleeting pleasure from any bang.
• Roosh: Kingmaker Podcast - The Danger Of Hedonic Adaptation
Quote:This podcast explores the hedonic treadmill, which states that people will adapt to pleasure over time, making its pursuit a marginal endeavor. Through four life examples, I show how this adaptation affects your perceptions of both pleasure and pain, before discussing the implication that we will eventually adapt to anything encountered in the material world. I share my thoughts on how to deal with this awareness and how I used it to make a recent decision that came after a negative event in my life.
• Quintus Curtius: When What is Expedient Conflicts With What Is Morally Good
Quote:A reader feels frustrated because it seems that he is not being rewarded for his ethical behavior. He thinks unethical people are being rewarded wrongly. He sees a conflict between what is ethical, and what is advantageous, and wants to know how to resolve it.
• Jordan Peterson: Gender Pronouns and Free Speech War (Part 2 of 2)*
Quote:Jordan Peterson (Professor of Psychology) joins Dave Rubin to discuss the gender pronoun controversy he has found himself in, political correctness, free speech, and more.
*Note: skip to 19:33 for the discussion on truth and personal integrity
• Barry Schwartz: The paradox of choice
Quote:Barry Schwartz tackles one of the great mysteries of modern life: Why is it that societies of great abundance — where individuals are offered more freedom and choice (personal, professional, material) than ever before — are now witnessing a near-epidemic of depression? Conventional wisdom tells us that greater choice is for the greater good, but Schwartz argues the opposite: He makes a compelling case that the abundance of choice in today's western world is actually making us miserable
*Note: in addition to the embedded Youtube vid, this TED link reports 45 subtitled languages and a download option.
I find RVF to be very biased for what is/isn't politically correct. So it's okay to tolerate 40 year old chumps who got divorced or whatever, sign up on RVF bitch about feminism all day, jerk off on ROK and put posters of Trump in their room like he's going to save their lives or something. But it's not okay to be brutally honest about game-related topics? Fucking girls is supposed to be the core subject of the forum, but when I look at the most viewed threads, it looks like it's become more and more a Hamster Rationalization Hub for gammas who couldn't get laid in high school. He's provided great data to this thread. I personally disagree with pumping and dumping virgins, but if the guy is nihilist enough to do that, it's always interesting to hear from his perspective. Sorry to all the old guys with "game" who live in the philippines, but this country is shitty and the only reason you go there, and you know it perfectly, is because it's the only place you can score decent girls. It's understandable, but don't be butthurt when people with more options reveal the truth about the shittiness of this place. And seriously, if your goal is to find a good wife, don't join RVF. You've got to be a desperate loser to join this forum at your age in search of your "future one".
^ I think a person with utter disrespect for the culture he's in is a dangerous thing to have venting on your forum. I'd definitely ban a behavior like that if I owned a forum.
On the other hand, I definitely agree with you about the "good old days are gone" whiners. It's ok to express your dismay about current conditions once or twice, even three times, but some people are on constant repeat with their bitching, and bring nothing but negative contribution. It's almost as if they're on a crusade to throw in a reminder that "everything sucks" on every thread page, so to make sure nobody ever coming across RVF misses out on that "crucial fact". It's more and more visible lately. Sad!
(This post was last modified: 05-19-2017 01:26 PM by Malo.)
(05-19-2017 12:57 PM)Zebra Wrote: I find RVF to be very biased for what is/isn't politically correct. So it's okay to tolerate 40 year old chumps who got divorced or whatever, sign up on RVF bitch about feminism all day, jerk off on ROK and put posters of Trump in their room like he's going to save their lives or something. But it's not okay to be brutally honest about game-related topics? Fucking girls is supposed to be the core subject of the forum, but when I look at the most viewed threads, it looks like it's become more and more a Hamster Rationalization Hub for gammas who couldn't get laid in high school. He's provided great data to this thread. I personally disagree with pumping and dumping virgins, but if the guy is nihilist enough to do that, it's always interesting to hear from his perspective. Sorry to all the old guys with "game" who live in the philippines, but this country is shitty and the only reason you go there, and you know it perfectly, is because it's the only place you can score decent girls. It's understandable, but don't be butthurt when people with more options reveal the truth about the shittiness of this place. And seriously, if your goal is to find a good wife, don't join RVF. You've got to be a desperate loser to join this forum at your age in search of your "future one".
Good job Zebra, the forum needs a little verbal diarrhea from time to time.
Really though, what the fuck are you talking about? You've just made a bunch of inaccurate generalizations.
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(05-19-2017 12:57 PM)Zebra Wrote: I find RVF to be very biased for what is/isn't politically correct. So it's okay to tolerate 40 year old chumps who got divorced or whatever, sign up on RVF bitch about feminism all day, jerk off on ROK and put posters of Trump in their room like he's going to save their lives or something. But it's not okay to be brutally honest about game-related topics? Fucking girls is supposed to be the core subject of the forum, but when I look at the most viewed threads, it looks like it's become more and more a Hamster Rationalization Hub for gammas who couldn't get laid in high school. He's provided great data to this thread. I personally disagree with pumping and dumping virgins, but if the guy is nihilist enough to do that, it's always interesting to hear from his perspective. Sorry to all the old guys with "game" who live in the philippines, but this country is shitty and the only reason you go there, and you know it perfectly, is because it's the only place you can score decent girls. It's understandable, but don't be butthurt when people with more options reveal the truth about the shittiness of this place. And seriously, if your goal is to find a good wife, don't join RVF. You've got to be a desperate loser to join this forum at your age in search of your "future one".
I doubt very much that he was banned for any of that. When you use idiotic language, such as "little brown cock slave" and "monkey poon," you should expect to be banned. I agree that Western society has become thoroughly and foolishly politically-correct, but using such language goes well over the line. So, his ban had nothing to do with whether or not he offered value to the forum. He broke the rules by engaging in race-trolling, although I doubt that it was intentional. Unfortunately, I think that it is just the way that he thinks.
In fact, I was surprised that he was not banned much earlier, when he first made those comments. When I first read the "monkey poon" comment, it was the first time ever that I almost hit the "Report" button, but I elected to err on the side of free speech and take a wait-and-see approach. I never did hit that button, because Roosh members eventually took care of the problem. I loath political correctness myself, but he failed to take any corrective action and was unrepentant to the end.
Real men exercise self-control, admit when they are wrong, respect themselves, and offer a modicum of respect to others.
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Posted by spiritmaze - Today I fully intended to fuck every single one of these 10's of millions of young women ...little brown cock slaves... filthy monkey poon... hate fuck them! I much prefer staring deep into their assholes while nailing them from behind.
(05-19-2017 04:48 AM)Vladimir Poontang Wrote: Spiritmaze,
Are you still there?
Answer me!
Oh wait. You can't.
He can't answer you because he's too busy fucking "ten millions" of "brown sex slaves", exclusively "doggy-style while staring into their anuses" (not at, into, note the classy nuance here! Also, what kind of arse-busted old bitches is he fantasizing about?: when you fuck a woman doggy-style, you don't see her anus like, wide open, so wide you actually could "stare into it")... obviously the dude was a virgin dreaming of wild anus-staring adventures in some exotic country he knows nothing about. Sad. Porn is wrecking vulnerable minds!
^Spiritmaze, try calling her your "brown sex slave", and wait for Pacman's answer!
I will be out for day game and probably night game today before I go back to the u.s. for awhile if any one wants to get off of their computer and game a little
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Girls crave this. They need it."
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I thought we were operating under the theory that if a girl put out for a player without any binding assurance of marriage in place, that means that she wasn't a good girl?*
But, to the extent good girls do get played, that's really the fault of society for not arranging their marriage. It shouldn't be left up to the girl to navigate the courtship and mating process on her own, without fatherly guidance to protect her. Men like spiritmaze have always existed, which is why patriarchy and early marriage were needed to keep girls out of trouble.
I have to admit, the thought of colonial conquest has come into my mind too a few times when I was banging my wife. But hey, women want to be conquered by an exotic man, preferably one who's powerful.
I think the issue and where I draw the line is in outright promising marriage to deceive a girl, particularly a virgin. Technically she should wait for the wedding, but these girls are mostly teenagers or early 20's and of course don't have the emotional maturity to resist heavy game combined with false promises. Some can resist the game without the promise of marriage, but with that promise added into the mix, combined with the exotic, attractive factor, it's hard to expect them to resist all that at their age. Keep in mind this is a conservative country where most young girls are very naive about relationships and sex. I think a lot of otherwise would-be good girls get swept up in that sort of deception. I've slept with some beautiful virgins I respect a lot here that I consider good girls. I think some emotional sensitivity is warranted when being a girl's first, particularly if she obviously has feelings, even if you did manage to game her without false promises.
In saying all that the strategy of guys like spiritmaze is common with a lot of the locals here. They get the girl pregnant, are her first, and then vanish. It's why there's so many single mothers on dating sites weary of filipinos. Little do they know foreigners are no different, it's just some men in general having no respect for themselves or a girl that does deserve respect (such as virgins saving it for marriage). They're willing to do anything to get that tight lay. Part of me at times is envious of their care-free attitude, particularly when you see results with guys like spiritmaze (although I'm skeptical of laying 30 virgins in Manila, that city is very liberated), but ultimately it's a destructive attitude that hurts both the girl and the guy in the long term. I think feeling bad about doing stuff like that without any limits is what makes us human.
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I don't quite understand the fascination for virgins other than being first. Takes too much effort, messy, and not as fun compared to someone who at least have some experience. May also include "guilt" if you have any conscience. All I see are cons.
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