Post: #51

@Genghis Khan. This is a good post. Yes I was surprised and also not surprised at the same time. My mistake is that after living for almost three years with my girlfriend, I gradually stopped ignoring her multiple refusals and negativity when I'd approach her for sex. I'd comply with her refusals, which would sometimes by the way really turn me off and kill my mood. Why? Many reasons. Because at the beginning, when we realized that our libido was very different, there were many serious conversations where she told me that she didn't have the energy to have sex more than 1-2 times a week and that she'd feel pressured to have sex with me when I'd approach her. As it was the first time I was living with someone I didn't really know how to handle the situation back then. I wanted to respect my partner but get sex frequently at the same time. I'd approach her every day in a spontaneous way, getting turn down often immediately, facing a lot of shit tests. 1-2 times a week she'd comply, wouldn't say anything when I'd approach. We'd do long foreplay and we'd have sex. Sometimes, great sex. Other times, I'd be persistent and get sex, but gradually these times took a toll on me and I got fed up with all the negativity when approaching. Gradually, I started to approach her less, which was a mistake. The resentment started to build up.

Here's some typical example similar with what would happen too often. It's saturday afternoon at our appartment. I'm at my office and she is reading a novel on the couch. I approach her without saying anything slowly and start kissing her neck. Boom it starts : ''You want to make love again'', rolls eyes, ''I'm tired, we made love yesterday.'', ''You pressure me too much, it stresses me'', ''Again, you want your orgasm.'' This got to a point last year where I would only want to hug her casually but she'd immediately become on the defensive thinking I'd want sex. All of that was very insidious and sometimes inconsistant, but it accumulated.

We'd get back from the restaurant on Friday night, we'd just have taken our shoes off, I'd go towards her to try touch/kiss her passionately and there we go. ''You pressure me too much, it stresses me'' blablabla

She used to have very high and unrealistic expectations of spontaneity but it got better the last two years. I will not go into all the details.

About the lube... On the rare occasions where I take it beforehand and place it somewhere in anticipation of sex outside the bedroom, I NEVER show it to her. I know my girlfriend, and the lube bottle is usually a turn off for her but sometimes we have to use it. If we have to use it, I usually it use in the most subtle way I can and often will not even see the bottle. I think that the way I use lube is of minor significance because we don't use it all that often, and when we have to, I use it tactfully.

I try to be spontaneous and smooth and we can probably always be smoother and think of new situations to be more spontaneous. It's important to be auto-critical and to be able to have introspection. But honestly this woman makes it VERY difficult. Even though it's the first time I live with a woman, I've had two serious LTR before, and a couple of mini-relationships and trust me she is a difficult case.

The sex therapist lent my girlfriend ''the secret garden''. She read it and she was tremendously aroused by some stories. She didn't want to tell me which ones. I plan to get the book and read it.

Hopefully, things got suddenly much better this week and I didn't expect that. The power is now in my hands. I'll update later.

Post: #52

Let's ask this question

Do girls realllly lack sex drive, or do they lack sex drive for the right guy ?

All these men with girls with bad sex drives

Do you think they have a bad sex drive around Brad Pitt ?


I am of the opinion the most christian shy modest prude will fuck a high LMS man in the backseat of his car on the first night no questions asks.

Post: #53

(05-18-2017 09:08 PM)B-Nut Wrote:  Let's ask this question

Do girls realllly lack sex drive, or do they lack sex drive for the right guy ?

All these men with girls with bad sex drives

Do you think they have a bad sex drive around Brad Pitt ?


I am of the opinion the most christian shy modest prude will fuck a high LMS man in the backseat of his car on the first night no questions asks.

A woman raised free-range with no impediments to her sexuality would, sure, but there are a lot of mentally defective women out there that are terrified of sex to some degree, often due to social factors or life events such as being raped or molested. I was with a girl once for whom sex was incredibly painful, and it would have been painful for her whether she was fucking Brad Pitt or Michael Moore. Other girls having had bad experiences with sex are uncomfortable with it but slightly more uncomfortable with being alone. Hence the relationship with reluctant fucking.

Post: #54

OP, are your balls still firmly in her purse or has she let you play with them? An update please.

Post: #55

Update:

Basically, last week I told my girlfriend the following. It was a bit radical (I'm usually nice) but at that point I was ready to walk away from the relationship:

''If you deny me sex one more time without a good excuse, I'll break up with you. I don't care if it's tomorrow or in two years. When I approach you to initiate sex from now on, I don't want hear any negative comments anymore. I want you to stay silent and to let me seduce you and arouse you so we can have good sex. I don't care if you have a headache, you're little bit tired or don't feel like it, you'll make an effort. If you don't, I will not make an effort to inhibit myself with other women around me and you'll loose my fidelity (she knows that because of social circle/work I have many opportunities). Remember that. If you don't agree, the relationship is over and I'm leaving.''

She agreed and said she doesn't want the relationship to end. Well, in the last 13 days, we had sex everyday except for three separate days (busy with work, obligations during the evening, etc.). This is by far the most since we are living together.

Surprisingly, the sex was good almost every time. I took the time to arouse her, doing attentive foreplay and it went well. She didn't loose focus/disconnect while having sex like it often used to happen.

She's making a lot of efforts to get to know her body better and to have better sex lately. All was accelarated. Yesterday, she herself initiated sex, which is almost unheard of.

The relationship is doing really great overall now and my resentment is minimal, almost non-existant.

We'll see how it will go in the next few months.

Post: #56

Great news.

If she accepts that fucking is going to happen then she'll be much more pro-active about moulding it in a way that works for her. That's probably why she initiated for the first time in a while. Her body is going to recognise that sex is going to happen one way or another so she's going to want to seize the moment when she's most receptive to it rather than wait for it to happen when she's tired or wired or whatever.

Great work, Lerm.

Post: #57

Negotiated desire only ever leads to obligated compliance.

Post: #58

^Which Lerm can opt out of whenever he likes on his own terms.

There are arguable benefits in the long term, here. She has submitted on a conscious level. That means he'll be fucking her whether she enjoys it or not. He made that abundantly clear to her.

Meanwhile, if you start a relationship with a girl who loves the dick and then she sours to it for some reason (unfortunately this can happen after the birth of one or several children) then she will make it abundantly clear that sex was ok when she was getting off but now that she's dried up it's not going to happen.

And if you have kids by that point then you're royally fucked.

Lerm's girl knows the score now and she'll know it ten years and three kids from now as long as he reminds her from time to time.

Post: #59

(05-21-2017 01:08 AM)RatInTheWoods Wrote:  Negotiated desire only ever leads to obligated compliance.

Well obligated compliance seems to turn her on so far... lol She may make an obligated effort the first few minutes after I approached her not to say right off the bat ''I'm tired/I'm not in the mood right now'' like she used to sometimes but I still get her aroused and very wet with attentive foreplay/talking and the sex is good. If she's faking, well she transformed herself into a very skilled actress and it probably will not last. We'll see how it will evolve in the next months to come. I don't care at that point. I'm not getting laid only 1-2 times a week when my partner has desire for the rest of my life. She starts denying sex, then I will cheat on her and we'll break up. This might sound like I'm a self-entitled prick, but I now think that I certainly didn't make all those sacrifices in my twenties to get a prestigious high-paying job putting me in the 1% to get laid only 1-2 times a week and cockblocked at home. I love sex too much.

Desire fluctuates during the week when you're living with someone and it will be hard to have a perfectly matched libido, especially after living multiple years with your partner. One will have to make an effort, at least to give a shot to his partner to arouse him, or the other will have to be rejected sometimes. If she initiates sex a late tuesday night while I'm tired and reading a great book I might have no desire at the moment and I'll have to make a conscious effort for 2 minutes before I get fully on board.

If ''the rational male'' guy has been living three years+ with a woman, can elicit genuine desire right off the bat every time he wants sex, including when she gets back from work a Monday night stressed and tense, for 1-2 time a day for all those years, props to him.

Post: #60

Here's [hopefully] a non-thread-jacking question about the converse scenario:

If a man in a LTR is turning down sex more than a few times, is he committing the same level of "LTR-sin" as a girl who is turning down her man more than a few times?

Hypothetical scenario:
- man in a particularly busy season (new ventures, deep flow), works at home so a little less work/life separation, etc.
- girl always sexually available and otherwise nailing LTR duties
- girl attempts to seduce / "beg" for sex, but gracefully understands when her man ultimately won't give in at the time
- girl content to hang by and get into her own reading / work (as opposed to acting resentful or going out)
- man bangs the hell out of her a few days later (she's coming multiple times, her thirst slaked)
- so quality is high but frequency declines in this hypothetical busy phase

If the roles were reversed, I'd advise man to demote this girl in his eyes; you can't negotiate desire, she clearly isn't THAT into it physically, etc.

But if it's the man whose being less sexually available (but for hopefully good reasons, not "secretly wants to end things" reasons), is he being as awful and frigid as a girl who isn't keeping her man satisfied at the desired frequency?

(My thought is "no", as the man's commitment and love can be considered on par with the woman's sex and commitment per the usual thinking around here, thus his "offense" is less serious. Though as a man I am biased.)

Post: #61

(05-21-2017 11:09 AM)456 Wrote:  Here's [hopefully] a non-thread-jacking question about the converse scenario:

If a man in a LTR is turning down sex more than a few times, is he committing the same level of "LTR-sin" as a girl who is turning down her man more than a few times?

Hypothetical scenario:
- man in a particularly busy season (new ventures, deep flow), works at home so a little less work/life separation, etc.
- girl always sexually available and otherwise nailing LTR duties
- girl attempts to seduce / "beg" for sex, but gracefully understands when her man ultimately won't give in at the time
- girl content to hang by and get into her own reading / work (as opposed to acting resentful or going out)
- man bangs the hell out of her a few days later (she's coming multiple times, her thirst slaked)
- so quality is high but frequency declines in this hypothetical busy phase

If the roles were reversed, I'd advise man to demote this girl in his eyes; you can't negotiate desire, she clearly isn't THAT into it physically, etc.

But if it's the man whose being less sexually available (but for hopefully good reasons, not "secretly wants to end things" reasons), is he being as awful and frigid as a girl who isn't keeping her man satisfied at the desired frequency?

(My thought is "no", as the man's commitment and love can be considered on par with the woman's sex and commitment per the usual thinking around here, thus his "offense" is less serious. Though as a man I am biased.)

I think Paul gets this right.

Quote:The husband should give to his wife her conjugal rights, and likewise the wife to her husband. For the wife does not have authority over her own body, but the husband does. Likewise the husband does not have authority over his own body, but the wife does. Do not deprive one another, except perhaps by agreement for a limited time, that you may devote yourselves to prayer; but then come together again, so that Satan may not tempt you because of your lack of self-control.

Post: #62

Like I said...dread game

(05-08-2017 01:38 PM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  What to do? Well you have to break her response patterns that you've established

What I'd suggest is a two prong attack:

1. Emotional

You need to employ a bit of Heartistes dread game. Remember that all women are emotional and "dread' aka fear is a potent one (emotion). Your "pedestalization" of her is as LNB points out has shifted the power to her and in so doing doused her attraction for you. You need to get that back

Good job OP. You've reestablished the psycho-sexual dynamic through fear. You will likely need to renew this "contract" from time to time through words and actions.

But fear is the negative side of motivation

The positive side is desire

I stand by my original advice. Find a way to make the sex act something completely different and enjoyable for her and your leverage will ratchet up an order of magnitude.

You want her to associate the act with something only you have ever been able to give her?

(05-08-2017 01:38 PM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  2. Physical

Warning NSFW video in link.

Next time you have her in bed make her squirt. If you've never done this to a girl I highly recommend it. Yes its real and yes if done properly (right state of mind+ right technique) Id say you can get almost any girl to squirt. There are a lot of videos out there but this guy is pretty no nonsense about it and his techniques are pretty consistent to what Ive found

Dont tell her your going to be doing it. Just do it. If she asks "what are you doing?" just say "Shhh just trust me and relax" Once she starts feeling it say it again "just relax...Im going to make you come"

You do this once and she'll never think of sex with you the same way again. She'll say "OMG!!! What did you do to me?" She'll be freaked out a bit but also You'll be Just break it out semi regularly as a special treat.


I think its salvageable but you need to change the dynamic
You want to keep her into you (and craving your satisfaction) long term? You've got to keep gaming her mind and body

Post: #63

Good read, this thread...

Start with the old story of, beautiful woman, shit in the bedroom.

Many of us have lived this one. Sure, the fucking hottie that turns
every head in the room, being on your arm? Gives us a shot of always
welcome ego-boost. It feels GOOD!

Still, that chick who is a couple rungs lower on the hotness ladder, who when
she is fucking you, makes you feel like King Kong? Those chicks are a blast to
be with..

Serious gold was dropped earlier by PapayaTapper, Leonard D, and Aneroid Ocean.

Props fellas..

And keep rockin' OP. Maybe in a few months you will write, telling us how you are really getting tired of fucking this girl????

Post: #64

1. Overt Ultimatum: OP's "game" is this, one of the most toxic types. Comply, or else. Love in view of the barrel of your loaded gun. As written about it by the elders over many years, the Ultimatum is the negotiating technique of somebody who has already lost.
2. Negotiated Desire: there is more negotiating going on here than at a 1980s Geneva USA-Soviet cold war summit. Fear is the toxic driver of this sexual relationship, not desire. OP is hellbent to force the desire, but any "success" is pyrrhic and temporary.

Don't get me wrong. OP, I read (all the 34000 words) you are a good, capable operator. It is just that you have the right overall game, but the wrong woman. She is not fixable. And as an older guy than you, I can tell you that your time is much more valuable than any - absolutely any - girl out there. You owe it to yourself to respect your very limited time. You will miss the lost time when you're older. Replace works much better than repair.

One last word: Every single rejection by this princess is cutting deep down into your self-confidence, creepingly and unnoticeably, ever so slightly. No man is immune against it. Eventually you will doubt yourself, and your abilities. You are paying a price for this pussy. With your soul.
My vote: Eject.
PS: "If a man with the ability to play out a black thug rape fantasy cannot make it work, no man can make it work." (Maxim number __)

Post: #65

(05-18-2017 09:39 PM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

(05-18-2017 09:08 PM)B-Nut Wrote:  Let's ask this question

Do girls realllly lack sex drive, or do they lack sex drive for the right guy ?

All these men with girls with bad sex drives

Do you think they have a bad sex drive around Brad Pitt ?


I am of the opinion the most christian shy modest prude will fuck a high LMS man in the backseat of his car on the first night no questions asks.

A woman raised free-range with no impediments to her sexuality would, sure, but there are a lot of mentally defective women out there that are terrified of sex to some degree, often due to social factors or life events such as being raped or molested. I was with a girl once for whom sex was incredibly painful, and it would have been painful for her whether she was fucking Brad Pitt or Michael Moore. Other girls having had bad experiences with sex are uncomfortable with it but slightly more uncomfortable with being alone. Hence the relationship with reluctant fucking.

One day we should all write a "bible" on real women's psychology. For us men, to not want to have sex is unthinkable, like not wanting to eat a wonderful steak dinner or in fact not wanting to feel good when you do anything enjoyable. It seems to defy logic. But young women in particular make love with their hind brains as much as their do with their hands, mouths and vaginas. If her first Alpha love had sex with her, a part of her soul seems to be taken and trapped to his body, whether he wants it or not. It's like having a Soul Trap enchantment on your dick. Many women describe having their "heart broken and taken away for ever", "having no soul left after Chad broke my heart", or being "frightened of having sex because I can't take more [mental] pain". Sex is associated with pain. The pleasureable physical feelings may pale in comparison to the pain experienced during the sex with some other guy. Some women try to "numb" themselves to the pain by purposefully and consciously becoming raging sluts, with the added benefit of some feeling of control where there used to be almost 0% perception of control of how she felt when she had sex, or how worthless she felt when Chad left her. Unfortunately this difference doesn't amount to much, even when girls do their next trick of convincing themselves, from their frontal to their hind brain as much as possible, that they are "happy". Some of the saddest female souls I've ever encountered have a constant need to emphasize that their terrible life decisions are right, and that they are happy as a result.

Sex is on tap for them; that's the "advantage" for girls. Sex is relatively scarce for men, we must work for it; that's the "disadvantage" for us. The painful part for us men is what we have to do to get the sex (pre-sex pain). The painful part for some women whose hearts have been broken is the during and post-sex part. Some women register such pain as to file the good old FRA as a most perverse coping mechanism. That so many women in western society in particular experience pain during and after sex might be of some consolation from men pissed off how easy women can get it. They have no control; they "get" their hearts broken and similar. Men "break" hearts and can bang other women with perfectly fine pleasure. However this differential in control seems to be greatly neutered by the facts that the women have control over which men have sex; men can only put their best foot forward and thus have some control, but very limited when compared to that of a woman.

And every once in a blue moon you get blessed with an easy, genuinely happy go lucky slut. If only God made more of them.

Post: #66

I wanted to update the thread, now that about eight months have past since my initial post and break up attempt. I'm still with my girlfriend and we still live together. Since May, she has never sexually rejected me anymore. She has never said that she is too tired or not in the mood when I start kissing/touching her and initiate sex at home. She lets herself being touched and kissed without expressing any negativity like she used to do sometimes before. She gets aroused and just abandons herself to me.

The sex is good, she is getting more comfortable with her body/sexuality (although it might never be on the level of some women). We make love almost everyday, sometimes now twice a day. She gives me blowjobs on command and now swallows (she didn't want to swallow before May). Against all odds, the overall relationship is better than ever. After the talk and the ultimatum, I thought that it was going to fall apart (negotiated desire, etc). Surprisingly, it has not. Maybe it will in the future, although it seems unlikely right now. I'm very satisfied with the relationship. We are closer to eachother now. She understands that making love is not only for me a physical release and need, but also a way of bonding and connecting. The more I make love to her, to more I feel emotionally connected to her and the better the relationship. I'll do more things for her (comfort game) but I'm careful not to go too far. It's about finding the right balance. She has completely sexually submitted to me. It's as if her brain had somehow been rebooted because of the fear of the break-up.

There are also less arguments since May in general in the relationship, although it wasn't a problem before.

I won't go into details about how the following came up, it would be too long, but long story short, she visited her family abroad for some weeks this summer and we agreed that it was okay and meaningless if I had protected sex with other women outside our social circle while she was away. It was unilateral, she wasn't allowed to do anything with someone else. I ended up banging four girls and getting a blowjob by a fifth one (the fifth one swallowed my cum on the first day we met... my girlfriend didn't swallow for 4 year and a half... one of the others swallowed my cum the next morning after a ONS from the bar...). Although it reminded me that I can get laid quickly (mostly thanks to looks, height, an athletic body and boldness, my game not being very sophisticated) and to sexually satisfy a woman who is comfortable with her own sexuality, it also reminded me that this lifestyle of chasing and banging multiple women is not fulfilling for me. Also, I don't have the thirst to be with other women when my girlfriend is here.

The sex itself was good though with the four girls. Way better than jacking off to some porn when your girlfriend is away. It also reminded me how firm and bold I used to be (and still can be) when picking up women during night game and how I had gone soft over the course of my long term relationship. Lastly, those four women were all more sexually comfortable, animalistic and physical than my girlfriend in a way. They were some kind of raging sluts thirsty for a dick. One of them, a former college athlete with pierced tits, was particularly slutty and sexually emancipated ... I'll always remember how after a few minutes of penetration she hit the wall screaming loudly ''I'm gonna cum!'' and had some kind of monstruous vaginal orgasm I hadn't seen in years... Being many years with my girlfriend, I had almost in a way forgot about those. My girlfriend remains someone who is relatively shy with a passive character and it reflects on her sexuality. She probably will never be on the level like the four women I had sex with, but I don't need that in the moment and I remain sexually satisfied overall. I think she'd be a good wife and good mother.

Post: #67

@Lermontov
Woah, great update.

Read everything and that's awesome that you can now save this relationship and is turning out better than ever.

I got some questions for you...and thanks for the update, reading these case studies help a lot.

1. Do you think you could have done what you did such as attempting to break off maybe 6 months or 1 year into the relationship rather than several years later? Do you think it could would have turned out the same or she would have walked away since there wasn't enough time invested on her part?
2. Did you ever thought of having an relationship where you can sleep around when you want and still have your girlfriend as a main girl? For example, you sleep with new girl every month and have sex with her maybe couple times, but it's for short-term and you are sleeping with your main girl most of the time and the girl knows about this. (These types of relationship is surprisingly becoming popular recently and you don't get bored of fucking the same girl over and over again...which can actually help the relationship that you have as you are able to keep it going with your main.)

Post: #68

(01-06-2018 09:48 PM)Lermontov Wrote:  I wanted to update the thread, now that about eight months have past since my initial post and break up attempt.

The sex is good, she is getting more comfortable with her body/sexuality (although it might never be on the level of some women). We make love almost everyday, sometimes now twice a day. She gives me blowjobs on command and now swallows (she didn't want to swallow before May). Against all odds, the overall relationship is better than ever. After the talk and the ultimatum, I thought that it was going to fall apart (negotiated desire, etc). Surprisingly, it has not. Maybe it will in the future, although it seems unlikely right now. I'm very satisfied with the relationship. We are closer to eachother now. She understands that making love is not only for me a physical release and need, but also a way of bonding and connecting. The more I make love to her, to more I feel emotionally connected to her and the better the relationship. I'll do more things for her (comfort game) but I'm careful not to go too far. It's about finding the right balance. She has completely sexually submitted to me. It's as if her brain had somehow been rebooted because of the fear of the break-up.

She probably will never be on the level like the four women I had sex with, but I don't need that in the moment and I remain sexually satisfied overall. I think she'd be a good wife and good mother.

I think you are doing great. If I could give you one suggestion. Once a week when you make love to her... focus on having great eye contact. I mean stare deep into her eyes... be rough but loving.

Here is the thing. Studies are showing that women who don't enjoy sex struggle to get their mind to an erotic place. Evidently a lot of these women are having sex with their husbands while thinking about grocery lists and shit.

That may explain why you had to verbally lead her into erotic thinking. She didn't understand how to do this herself. In my experience deep eye contact and ertotic talk can fix this issue.

Post: #69

So many adjectives, so may words. Yet somehow so vapid.

Post: #70

I was with a girl like that. She wouldnt give me sex no matter what I did. She only wanted to have sex if she absolutely "felt" she "loved" me enough for it. I never understood it. I told her that I was going to cheat on her ass if she didnt give me what I wanted and she said "Go ahead, one day im going to find someone who I really love and ill have sex with".

Post: #71

(01-07-2018 10:25 PM)Pancho Wrote:  I was with a girl like that. She wouldnt give me sex no matter what I did. She only wanted to have sex if she absolutely "felt" she "loved" me enough for it. I never understood it. I told her that I was going to cheat on her ass if she didnt give me what I wanted and she said "Go ahead, one day im going to find someone who I really love and ill have sex with".

So...you left her, right? Because ultimatums make no sense if you don't mean them, every word of them. That is the way one respects oneself.

Post: #72

(01-07-2018 05:29 PM)bgbusiness Wrote:  @Lermontov
Woah, great update.

Read everything and that's awesome that you can now save this relationship and is turning out better than ever.

I got some questions for you...and thanks for the update, reading these case studies help a lot.

1. Do you think you could have done what you did such as attempting to break off maybe 6 months or 1 year into the relationship rather than several years later? Do you think it could would have turned out the same or she would have walked away since there wasn't enough time invested on her part?
2. Did you ever thought of having an relationship where you can sleep around when you want and still have your girlfriend as a main girl? For example, you sleep with new girl every month and have sex with her maybe couple times, but it's for short-term and you are sleeping with your main girl most of the time and the girl knows about this. (These types of relationship is surprisingly becoming popular recently and you don't get bored of fucking the same girl over and over again...which can actually help the relationship that you have as you are able to keep it going with your main.)

Thanks for your interest.

1. I think she would have walked away after 6-12 months into the relationship. In my opinion it would have been too radical too quickly and she wasn't as attached to me. Also, the issues caused by the mismatch of libido weren't as present during that phase since we were not living together yet. We were seeing eachother usually only 2-3 times a week. Maybe after living for 6 months + together, it could have turned out a similar way. There were many obstacles for me to act earlier, among them: a deep ingrained belief that the male sex drive is usually higher that the female's libido on average and that I just have to deal with it while respecting my partner as much as I can; the fact that I was still fapping and watching porn for a while before starting to get bored/disgusted by it (this allowed me to keep some kind of balance).

2. I never really thought about having such a relationship before. Also deeply ingrained in me was that it is not acceptable. I'm not really looking forward to it either. Finding new girls is time consuming. I'm 30 and as a busy professionnal, sacrifying time to pick up at the bar and on Tinder is more of an issue now than when I was younger. Not really worth it right now as I prefer spending this time with friends, family, my girlfriend, on hobbies and on my career. Also, not being able to bring home the girls make the logistics complicated. I'm not a good liar and I lost lays during the time my girlfriend was away. Having a girlfriend was a turnoff for some girls just to hook up. Right now it's okay for my girlfriend if I hook up once with a girl, but we both know that I'm not pursuing it actively. I do not suffer nor do I feel bored sexually with my girlfriend right now even if I had sex with new girls great at it this summer. But if I'm at some party or reception and some girl I cross path with is hot, I will try to fuck her the same night. I will not settle for her number though and invest more time.

Post: #73

(01-07-2018 10:19 PM)Off The Reservation Wrote:  So many adjectives, so may words. Yet somehow so vapid.

Thanks for the nice reality check buddy... I'll think about that if I ever consider making a career change and becoming a writer. As a francophone who seldom speaks english and hardly ever writes in it, expressing myself concisely and accurately on such topics was pretty difficult.