Post: #1

I've been going to clubs for two days a week for few months now. Unfortunately I have to admit my game still sucks. I sometimes get the number which turns to date which turn to poor results. Sometimes very rarely I will get make out during night out. I'm starting to be frustrated thus I wanted to know how do you learn game. For me it is very slow process and I do not see that much progress excluding some initial improvement.

Post: #2

Few months? Keep at it.

You ask, how do you learn game?

A good answer is 5% reading, 95% practice.

Post: #3

Like you learn anything; with practice.

But a good way to cut down on the learning curve, is to find someone already good at game and learn from them.

Oh and it helps to live in a city with a population of at least a million people. If you don't live in one try to find a way to commute to the nearest one even if it's just one day a week.

Post: #4

(05-14-2017 12:58 PM)CleanSlate Wrote:  Few months? Keep at it.

You ask, how do you learn game?

A good answer is 5% reading, 95% practice.

If I want to practive I have to have technique to practice. Same as with martial arts, trainer shows technique and then students repeat. I do not have any pick-up coach and I do not know about any in my city so I have to take those techniques from somwhere. I also have to know how to e.g. behave on a date. So what are good sources of theory (beside rooshv's bang and day bang)?

Post: #5

(05-14-2017 12:58 PM)CleanSlate Wrote:  Few months? Keep at it.

You ask, how do you learn game?

A good answer is 5% reading, 95% practice.

I'm a novice still but there's nothing like going out there and actually doing it. The learning curve is steep but it's the only way. Too many guys are keyboard jockeys and read up on a bunch of theories postulate xy and z but can't even do an approach to save their lives.

The key is to get out and do it.

Post: #6

OP, did you follow the program? http://www.rooshv.com/the-roosh-program

Post: #7

(05-14-2017 02:36 PM)EmotionalGeek Wrote:  

(05-14-2017 12:58 PM)CleanSlate Wrote:  Few months? Keep at it.

You ask, how do you learn game?

A good answer is 5% reading, 95% practice.

If I want to practive I have to have technique to practice. Same as with martial arts, trainer shows technique and then students repeat. I do not have any pick-up coach and I do not know about any in my city so I have to take those techniques from somwhere. I also have to know how to e.g. behave on a date. So what are good sources of theory (beside rooshv's bang and day bang)?

Don't stick to nightgame, try some daygame.

Consider getting some coaching as well if you are not able to move things forward no your own.

Post: #8

(05-14-2017 03:14 PM)Savemham Lincoln Wrote:  OP, did you follow the program? http://www.rooshv.com/the-roosh-program

He's following the John Bozzz program instead.

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Post: #9

Emotional Geek=JohnBozzz

1/10 Thread

Post: #10

(05-15-2017 11:40 AM)kaotic Wrote:  Emotional Geek=JohnBozzz

1/10 Thread

nope.

Post: #11

If you want to have some "home study" on gamin, try to watch youtube videos, there are loads of youtubers whose channels are dedicated to gaming, like simple pick-up and similars

Post: #12

1. Read and digest the books, take notes if you must. Learn the theory as if your life depended on it
2. Watch PUAs on Youtube applying the theory. Take notes if you must. If you studied the books properly you'll notice right away the "game" working as intended in real life.
3. Prepare a half dozen openings, 3-4 DHV stories and a couple kino tricks then practice on delivering them naturally in the mirror. At the beginning, it helps to follow a script, even if it doesn't feel "natural". If the script is good the majority of girls will respond positively, if not then you have to change it.
4. Build up your confidence use a monkey see, monkey do approach based on the material you've studied. At the beginning things may be awkward and girls with bitch shields will flat out ignore you but if you play the numbers game you will stumble upon a few who will respond positively. You'll probably fail at building any real attraction but you'll learn a lot from these girls and the way they respond to your "experiments".
5. Go to venues where you can actually have a conversation. It's hard to game girls in a club as they are too noisy. You'll have much more success as a newbie in bars rather than clubs.

Post: #13

(05-16-2017 07:47 AM)Pointer Wrote:  1. Read and digest the books, take notes if you must. Learn the theory as if your life depended on it
2. Watch PUAs on Youtube applying the theory. Take notes if you must. If you studied the books properly you'll notice right away the "game" working as intended in real life.
3. Prepare a half dozen openings, 3-4 DHV stories and a couple kino tricks then practice on delivering them naturally in the mirror. At the beginning, it helps to follow a script, even if it doesn't feel "natural". If the script is good the majority of girls will respond positively, if not then you have to change it.
4. Build up your confidence use a monkey see, monkey do approach based on the material you've studied. At the beginning things may be awkward and girls with bitch shields will flat out ignore you but if you play the numbers game you will stumble upon a few who will respond positively. You'll probably fail at building any real attraction but you'll learn a lot from these girls and the way they respond to your "experiments".
5. Go to venues where you can actually have a conversation. It's hard to game girls in a club as they are too noisy. You'll have much more success as a newbie in bars rather than clubs.

I know about reading and videos only problem is that there are a lot of materials lot of them contradictory. Some people want to just make money. So I need some good references to learn from. Are there any good books/videos you would recommend?

Post: #14

Just talk too a lot of women man, it's hard - I still struggle with it gaming consistently.

Post: #15

(05-16-2017 08:13 AM)EmotionalGeek Wrote:  I know about reading and videos only problem is that there are a lot of materials lot of them contradictory. Some people want to just make money. So I need some good references to learn from. Are there any good books/videos you would recommend?

For any beginners here who are not trolling like the OP is, books and videos are great for very basic information, but you will never, repeat never, learn "game" passively, nor is there a set of magic steps that always end up with you and a dime-piece humping.

"Game" is learned by DOING. If you're not approaching, you're not learning, and you'll be fucking your hand for life, or worse, end in wifing up Suzy Bagodix out of sheer desperation.

Post: #16

But this is not the beginner forum.

Post: #17

Read here and there. Try and talk to a few women in person every day. Do some online game, go on dates, go to a bar or club once a week.

Don't put too much weight in "Theories or techniques". That's the wrong mind set altogether. That is the nerd mentality. Don't be an analytical nerd it turns girls off.

Being successful at this is pretty much just a by product of how successful you are at the rest of your life, and how good your social skills are. You're not going to be doing well with the ladies if you toss dough at papa j's, go home to your computer, and drive a 98 honda civic.

The most important part is to become as handsome as you can possibly be. It's far more important than game. It's also the hardest area because true improvement in your handsomeness beyond a hair cut and nice clothes is a lot of work for us guys.

Post: #18

If you start enough threads you will eventually get it.

Post: #19

(05-16-2017 02:22 PM)Steelex Wrote:  Read here and there. Try and talk to a few women in person every day. Do some online game, go on dates, go to a bar or club once a week.

Don't put too much weight in "Theories or techniques". That's the wrong mind set altogether. That is the nerd mentality. Don't be an analytical nerd it turns girls off.

Being successful at this is pretty much just a by product of how successful you are at the rest of your life, and how good your social skills are. You're not going to be doing well with the ladies if you toss dough at papa j's, go home to your computer, and drive a 98 honda civic.

The most important part is to become as handsome as you can possibly be. It's far more important than game. It's also the hardest area because true improvement in your handsomeness beyond a hair cut and nice clothes is a lot of work for us guys.

Wrong. The biggest player I've ever known pulled tons of women while working at a circle k gas station. And looks won't get you anywhere if you don't have game. I talked about this in the Player's Lounge, 6'5 jacked dudes that could be models in fitness magazines having zero game and going home alone.

OP don't listen to this game denialist.

Post: #20

(05-17-2017 09:00 AM)captain_shane Wrote:  

(05-16-2017 02:22 PM)Steelex Wrote:  Read here and there. Try and talk to a few women in person every day. Do some online game, go on dates, go to a bar or club once a week.

Don't put too much weight in "Theories or techniques". That's the wrong mind set altogether. That is the nerd mentality. Don't be an analytical nerd it turns girls off.

Being successful at this is pretty much just a by product of how successful you are at the rest of your life, and how good your social skills are. You're not going to be doing well with the ladies if you toss dough at papa j's, go home to your computer, and drive a 98 honda civic.

The most important part is to become as handsome as you can possibly be. It's far more important than game. It's also the hardest area because true improvement in your handsomeness beyond a hair cut and nice clothes is a lot of work for us guys.

Wrong. The biggest player I've ever known pulled tons of women while working at a circle k gas station. And looks won't get you anywhere if you don't have game. I talked about this in the Player's Lounge, 6'5 jacked dudes that could be models in fitness magazines having zero game and going home alone.

OP don't listen to this game denialist.

Im certainly not a game denialist. Learning game can give you a frame of reference to help you understand the interaction. However I don't look at it as a magical thing where you go say a few things, do x y z and then bam panties drop. Now I know that's a gross paraphrasing of game, but it's not far off from how many people perceive game. To me it's a tool but sort of secondary to maxing out your own personal attractiveness and developing some great social skills. It took 120ish notches to come to that conclusion.

Now as far as your example of the exceptionally good looking guy not doing well with women, I have to call bullshit. I'm moderately good looking and quite jacked, and if I go to a bar, the odds of a decent looking bitch approaching me is very high. If you're 6'5 and great looking, and not smashing wholesale ass, then you're probably just intimidating them with your handsomeness. It happens.

The greatest smashmen I've ever seen were all good looking frat boys with good social skills, or good looking guys who were locked in with a good sex club/swingers scene.

So again, not a game denialist, I just believe that looks and some decent social skills/situational awareness goes a whole hell of a lot further.

Post: #21

Watch this game video to the very end and all will be revealed.
Dont start anymore threads until you do

Post: #22

the best way to learn is to hang around guys who have game.

Post: #23

(05-16-2017 02:22 PM)Steelex Wrote:  Read here and there. Try and talk to a few women in person every day. Do some online game, go on dates, go to a bar or club once a week.

Don't put too much weight in "Theories or techniques". That's the wrong mind set altogether. That is the nerd mentality. Don't be an analytical nerd it turns girls off.

Being successful at this is pretty much just a by product of how successful you are at the rest of your life, and how good your social skills are. You're not going to be doing well with the ladies if you toss dough at papa j's, go home to your computer, and drive a 98 honda civic.

The most important part is to become as handsome as you can possibly be. It's far more important than game. It's also the hardest area because true improvement in your handsomeness beyond a hair cut and nice clothes is a lot of work for us guys.

I would say nice clothes actually holds back most men. Most men do not know how to dress very well, and maybe have one acceptable outfit in their wardrobe.

Post: #24

(05-17-2017 11:27 AM)Heart Break Kid Wrote:  

(05-16-2017 02:22 PM)Steelex Wrote:  Read here and there. Try and talk to a few women in person every day. Do some online game, go on dates, go to a bar or club once a week.

Don't put too much weight in "Theories or techniques". That's the wrong mind set altogether. That is the nerd mentality. Don't be an analytical nerd it turns girls off.

Being successful at this is pretty much just a by product of how successful you are at the rest of your life, and how good your social skills are. You're not going to be doing well with the ladies if you toss dough at papa j's, go home to your computer, and drive a 98 honda civic.

The most important part is to become as handsome as you can possibly be. It's far more important than game. It's also the hardest area because true improvement in your handsomeness beyond a hair cut and nice clothes is a lot of work for us guys.

I would say nice clothes actually holds back most men. Most men do not know how to dress very well, and maybe have one acceptable outfit in their wardrobe.

Oh I agree, but thats a relatively easy fix. You just get new clothes. Not exactly a huge hurdle.

A major hurdle would be obesity, bad teeth, bad skin, possible deformities, speech impediments, bad posture, ect... Those are all sort of time consuming and costly to fix.

Now I'm hardly an advocate of metrosexuality or any sort of prissyness, but if you have something that looks fucked up about your appearance, getting it fixed should be priority Uno. It's one thing to not be genetically blessed, it's another to signal to a woman that you're a piss poor sperm donor.

Post: #25

34 posts and half of them are threads. Try absorbing more information instead of Johnbozzzin' it.