I got two Tinder dates this weekend... One Friday in Antwerp, Belgium and one Saturday in Hamburg, Germany. I am traveling for work and pipelined the fuck outta the app and these locations.

Both 8+ white chicks.. Depending on your tastes one of them is a 9! (shes a 20 year old aspiring model and has professional shoots in LA to boot.. seen some of the portfolio) The other is 22 and also has some modeling shots. So two model types on one weekend!

Whether I pull the ONS or not for me is irrelevant (of course I'm gonna give it 100%) but I am super excited I even got this far. I have ALWAYS done horrible online and after grinding on this shit forever I am finally getting the hang of it. This was part of my game goals 2017 and I am happy I was able to reach one of them.

After this I'm gonna look at how to perfect this formula and pour gas on the fire.

Guess what I am wearing in my pictures?

Street style! My suit up days are dead.

(03-29-2017 01:41 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  @Mufasa

I get the logistics (her situation) after the conversation opens, but before I go heavy with the validation.

For bang purposes, drop girls with bad logistics.

Let's say a girl tells you she has bad logistics 5 minutes into the conversation. What is next? Do you get her number? Do you just eject from that set? Other?

(03-29-2017 12:00 PM)the high Wrote:  @kirdiesel out of curiousity what's the demographics of the city you live in? Like is there a considerable non-white population?

Mostly white Germans and a large minority of Turks.

(03-29-2017 12:04 PM)Apollo21 Wrote:  

(03-29-2017 09:35 AM)kirdiesel Wrote:  I was running some Tinder game when I came across this gem.

I just had to laugh and post it. The funny thing I have had this feeling that this trend existed here in Europe. I am sure its not limited to Europe but now its confirmed.

I have been at hip hop parties here and the girl seems all into it. You know shes single cause you been checking all night and brothers are hollering and noone is getting anywhere and a white dude comes and scoops her like..... really?

It takes some time to develop your niche practically anywhere you go.
However clubs in Germany require a mass effort...of Brothers going out to different places on a given night.

I've seen friends succeed however the talent wasn't always that great...
I've done festivals and concerts and clubs and daygame...you've really got to branch out and visit other cities like Barcelona or Paris or EE countries...
the energy and enthusiasm the girls have for Brothers there is electric...mostly because no one ever visits them...

I would also look at Instagram and doing local meetups...there's a big international crowd here...clubs only attract a tiny percent of local talent.

Whenever I meet girls outside of a club environment/aka in real life, it's night and day...She's not in a fantasy world of song and dance where she can dismiss hordes of guys on a whim...
and refuse to be social and not have a conversation. The energy is also different...it's more relaxed and you're talking to a real person...lol not her clubgirl persona...

Personally I don't really care if a girl prefers one of her own...it doesn't really matter...it's not set in stone...like the wind or the tides, it can change...and the best way to change the tide is in real life...not in a club....

I know you are anti-nightclub. I have started to Branch out and use other strategies (See my recent post on Tinder) and I am going to keep grinding on that and try to max out my results. I am also looking at starting day game starting from June 1st onwards.

Cologne is NOT really an international city I think Düsseldorf is better in that regard so I am starting to look into a branch out into there also.

I am pretty sure I have found my niche now.. its just a matter now of finding out where the most of these girls hang out and start approaching on a regular basis.

I will NOT give up nightgame. Its been my bread and butter since the beginning of time and it does yield results (not always the best) but its something if you learn how to master or find a solid niche you will have complete control of the lizards you get and you will get access to some of the hottest girls in the city.

While difficult to master, I believe nightgame is the best game there is.

Just for the fun

(03-29-2017 07:42 PM)Iso Wrote:  

(03-29-2017 01:41 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  @Mufasa

I get the logistics (her situation) after the conversation opens, but before I go heavy with the validation.

For bang purposes, drop girls with bad logistics.

Let's say a girl tells you she has bad logistics 5 minutes into the conversation. What is next? Do you get her number? Do you just eject from that set? Other?

If she is in:
Iso : So who do you live with? I bet you got a twin bed with your sister!
Girl : No but my dad is a head of the local police...
Iso : Oh ok! Don't worry my car is park behind the club, let me show you something cool I've got in it, we're back in 5mn...

(03-29-2017 07:42 PM)Iso Wrote:  

(03-29-2017 01:41 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  @Mufasa

I get the logistics (her situation) after the conversation opens, but before I go heavy with the validation.

For bang purposes, drop girls with bad logistics.

Let's say a girl tells you she has bad logistics 5 minutes into the conversation. What is next? Do you get her number? Do you just eject from that set? Other?

Bad Logistics
- who she came with (oh my husband is over there)
- how she got her (I drove all my friends here)
- what she has planned for the night (I got get my kids from the baby-sitter)
- what she has planned for the morning (gotta get my kids to school, and then go to work)

-> you go into

a) get the digits.

"Well you seem like fun, and we have something in common, lemme getcha #/Facebook/instagram"

If you go to the same places week in, week out, you'll probably see her again. If you get the #, hit her up, and let her know you're going to be out - but a # you get from the club with very little work put in - usually doesn't turn into a date.

If you've got a cool social media thing going, that's keeping her in the web, and can make the bang happen in the future.

The key here, something I learned in 2016, is to not write this missed connection off, or slot her into "no bang/yes bang" - but extend your social circle. If you become FB friends with her, you can see what kind of fine bitches she's friends with, and where they party. They might be going to some shit you're not aware of.

b) Use her as homebase/as a wing/social proof/pivot/pre-selection

So if you meet a chick, her logistics are bad for the same night lay, continue the chat, but use her as a launching pad to go talk to other women. Introduce her to other women. Introduce her to other guys.

To 3rd parties, you're gonna look social (because, surprise, you're socializing) - and that gives them "permission" to be social with you.

A line I might use, "Man we need to turn this club into a house party. You know how at a house party everyone is cool and you can chat with anyone..." - So you set this frame with the girl that's cool with you and you just use her as an excuse to talk to more folks.

This works on her.
And you being next to her, works on others.

You introduce A to B, and both A&B think you're the man.

The social pivot might be harder to do in a day game setting, but that should be obvious without me having to say it.

I don't know if this is doable with an online "meet" for a new jack.

Let's say you match with a chick, but she's still cagey about going someplace. She might get fucked, or she might get "fucked" is what she's thinking.

So if you're running good solid game, and you have a decent lifestyle - invite her to hang out with you "and the crew". Take some of the pressure off of the meet.

"I'm gonna be at this brunch/bbq at such and such, bring your people."

So if she comes through solo or with folks, you can meet up, size each other up, do the smell test, whatever. From there, you just extend brunch here to dessert/wine over there. Then walk in the park.... And what do you know, we're right by my place. Come inside and meet my pitbull puppy.

One of the things that veteran player understands that new guys eventually learn is abundance. I see at least 10 fuckable bitches a day. More at night. 10s? Naw not really. But the type of chick you wouldn't be embarrassed to take to a Church Picnic.

Unlike veterans, New guys are very binary about chicks.
If she fucks, she's golden (for a second).
If she gives resistance, FUCK THAT BITCH.

The vet expects "resistance". He accommodates hers and puts up his own.

Part of the pulling her into the web is making a show of you resisting her, of saying you're not right for each other, of treating her like a little sister and not a potential lover,

Most of the attraction is counter-intuitive.

And most of what you do with a phone #/contact information is also counter-intuitive.

So a guy gets a #, and he's like WHEN DO I CALL? TOO SOON? TOO LATE?

I've said it time and time again, if you're obsessing about when to call, or what perfect text to send - there are not enough chicks in your pipeline.

The pipeline is what matters, not the individual chick.
Keep the pipeline full, and you become golden.

So recap
- figure out what is bad about her logistics - some of that stuff is not that bad, some is horrendous.

- once bad logistics are established

- option 1 - get the # and make a friend, and then go hit on other chicks.
- option 2 - get the #, and use where she's standing as your homebase at the club. Bring her to meet people, bring people to meet her. Get phone #'s in front of her. (For you professionals, Give biz cards to the dudes, exchange #'s with the chicks.)

WIA

I have started to take this IG thing more seriously now.

Started a convo with some girl and first thing out of her mouth, is how I can travel so much. lol

blck dropped a dime in another thread.

(03-29-2017 05:30 PM)blck Wrote:  Some might need a shot to remind them that running away might not be the best answer but behaving synchronized with your core is:

Quote:Remember Bizarro and Superman?

Women are Bizarro men. Stuff that would make you feel bad makes them feel happy.

Do you feel sorry for them when they are sucking your dick? You don't want to suck dick, surely it must be a horrible thing. But nope, they love it.

Treating her like a princess and doing every little nice thing for her? She hates it.

Treating her as expendable and she does every little nice thing for you? She loves it.

Logic? She hates it. Rationality? Hates it. Mankind living together in peace and harmony? Haaaaates it.

She likes being emotional, being "spiritual" (as in, wishful thinking without anything required of her), and other people being unambiguously lower than her and less well-off.

Responsibility? Accountability? Forethought? Haaaaaaaate.

Being irresponsible, unaccountable, and living in the moment: Wheeee!

[...]

So, how to deal with them?

The big mistake everyone starts out making is applying the Golden Rule.

There's an old tale from Chuang Tzu illustrating why:

http://www.taoareyou.com/a-closer-look-a...lden-rule/

You have to treat each individual according to their nature.

Women are practically an alien intelligence. Not like, space-faring alien intelligence, but not just microbes on a rock, either. Somewhere in between.

They are missing every innovation on the Y chromosome.

Instead, they just got another copy of the same kind of chromosome they already had. They are missing all that originality. They got a double dose of the conventional. Instead of intuition and a rational mind, they got intuition and intuition.

When you're not sure your intuition is right, you consult your rationality. When they're not sure, they consult their other intuition. It's all they've got, the only tool they have. They can't even imagine what it's like to have something other than gut feeling, but their gut feeling is that they wouldn't like it.

As strange and appalling as they are, it's actually easy to figure out what to do with them.

You just have to recreate conditions of their evolutionary past. This is what their instincts are honed for and expecting.

You already have a built-in guide:

Your alphaness.

Women were subjugated by men for their entire existence until the 1960s. Evolution hasn't had time to change the script yet. It's so fucking ingrained and impressed upon their brains that THEY WILL RUN THE SCRIPT IF YOU DON'T. They will treat you as disposable, use, you, dominate you, make you insecure and leave you wondering if she is committed to you or not.

Modern society has completely fucked things, because it has you both executing the opposite script, showing them how you want THEM to be to YOU.

YOU do a million nice things for her, which you think is what she wants, but is really what YOU want.

Then SHE does a bunch of fucked-up shit to you, as if to show you what she wants YOU to do to her.

Then, nobody is happy. Society tried to make men "nice" without realizing that this upset the ecological balance.

Imagine you each hold the end of a rope and are playing tug-of-war.

You're stronger than she is, so you will inevitably pull her over to your side. But then you think, "using my manly strength is wrong! I refuse to pull any more, and will instead just passively hold my end of the rope." Well, she's still pulling, and now she's dragging you over to HER side. Her side is NOT set up to accommodate your manly virtues! It wasn't even designed for you to ever be there! Only her, and future offspring. YOUR side was set up to accommodate you both as adults. Your toilet seat goes up and down! Hers is glued down. Sit to pee! And all she has over here besides her stuff is baby clothes, so she's going to dress you up in them. And then treat you like what you look like. You're passive. You're an infant. She doesn't want to fuck an infant. Time to look for a MAN!

I don't know if anyone listens to the Beige Phillip show but he talks about this a lot the Biological Imperative vs the Social Contract. A lot of the frame control stuff I posted about came from that podcast's line of thinking about male-female relationships.

(03-30-2017 10:41 AM)rudebwoy Wrote:  I have started to take this IG thing more seriously now.

Started a convo with some girl and first thing out of her mouth, is how I can travel so much. lol

The IG thing is real!

I had read BlurredSevens post about getting professional photos done a while back but I never really gave it much thought, considering that I'm not very photogenic anyway so I thought it would be a waste of time. However, I recently wanted to get a professional CV/LinkedIn photo so I decided to go ahead and take a few fun shots afterwards since I would already be suited up.

I must say the photographer did a great job in making me actually look good, plus his editing made my photos look like they were out of a GQ editorial. Good enough that I decided to fire up Tinder again and try them out. The professional photos, along with my IG account being linked to my profile have been huge. I have been getting great results so far, plus the IG account really does add value. My account isn't even that big, I only have a few hundred followers but the content is great. A combination of travel and adventurous shit, sprinkled with some fashion (from the aforementioned photo shoot). I've already had a couple Tinder matches follow me on IG unprompted.

Of course this is only a minor tool to be used in game but a beneficial one if utilized correctly.

(03-29-2017 08:18 PM)kirdiesel Wrote:  

(03-29-2017 12:00 PM)the high Wrote:  @kirdiesel out of curiousity what's the demographics of the city you live in? Like is there a considerable non-white population?

Mostly white Germans and a large minority of Turks.

(03-29-2017 12:04 PM)Apollo21 Wrote:  

(03-29-2017 09:35 AM)kirdiesel Wrote:  I was running some Tinder game when I came across this gem.

I just had to laugh and post it. The funny thing I have had this feeling that this trend existed here in Europe. I am sure its not limited to Europe but now its confirmed.

I have been at hip hop parties here and the girl seems all into it. You know shes single cause you been checking all night and brothers are hollering and noone is getting anywhere and a white dude comes and scoops her like..... really?

It takes some time to develop your niche practically anywhere you go.
However clubs in Germany require a mass effort...of Brothers going out to different places on a given night.

I've seen friends succeed however the talent wasn't always that great...
I've done festivals and concerts and clubs and daygame...you've really got to branch out and visit other cities like Barcelona or Paris or EE countries...
the energy and enthusiasm the girls have for Brothers there is electric...mostly because no one ever visits them...

I would also look at Instagram and doing local meetups...there's a big international crowd here...clubs only attract a tiny percent of local talent.

Whenever I meet girls outside of a club environment/aka in real life, it's night and day...She's not in a fantasy world of song and dance where she can dismiss hordes of guys on a whim...
and refuse to be social and not have a conversation. The energy is also different...it's more relaxed and you're talking to a real person...lol not her clubgirl persona...

Personally I don't really care if a girl prefers one of her own...it doesn't really matter...it's not set in stone...like the wind or the tides, it can change...and the best way to change the tide is in real life...not in a club....

I know you are anti-nightclub. I have started to Branch out and use other strategies (See my recent post on Tinder) and I am going to keep grinding on that and try to max out my results. I am also looking at starting day game starting from June 1st onwards.

Cologne is NOT really an international city I think Düsseldorf is better in that regard so I am starting to look into a branch out into there also.

I am pretty sure I have found my niche now.. its just a matter now of finding out where the most of these girls hang out and start approaching on a regular basis.

I will NOT give up nightgame. Its been my bread and butter since the beginning of time and it does yield results (not always the best) but its something if you learn how to master or find a solid niche you will have complete control of the lizards you get and you will get access to some of the hottest girls in the city.

While difficult to master, I believe nightgame is the best game there is.

Glad to hear things are picking up for you. I'm not anticlub necessarily, I just have no patience for German clubs anymore after clubbing in them for years. The atmosphere is just tired and played out for me...

I just got a professional photo shoot done. Still waiting on the finished and edited pics. I told her to slim me down a bit more, lol. I figure since I've been dieting and exercising regularly, (down 30lbs so far) I figure the weight will be off anyway, lol.
Today's world has changed. You have to go after bishes in the medium that they're accustomed to. WIA put it best when he opined about getting game strategies from App development and marketing tools. Online dating is no more than introduction platforms, similar to pay-per-click services. The marketing part is on you!

@Mufasa
That's some PimpinLarge gems from TRP (when it used to be good...)
Today that's what I'm on because being huge, well dressed having money ain't shit if you're not aligned with your core self.

Got more if you're interested, might get some to go further as it's helping me right now (probably will post about that in some near futur)

@DB
That's some great advice WIA gave us here, I got myself the book "Hooked" from Nir EYAL on "How to build habit-forming product" and this is huge and usable in your day-to-day life when interacting with people.

Hooked! Yeah, that's the book I'm talking about

The amygdala stuff is what I'm interested in. On a small scale, that's the point of the knock knock jokes.

WIA

(03-30-2017 01:27 PM)blck Wrote:  @DB
That's some great advice WIA gave us here, I got myself the book "Hooked" from Nir EYAL on "How to build habit-forming product" and this is huge and usable in your day-to-day life when interacting with people.

(03-30-2017 01:53 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  Hooked! Yeah, that's the book I'm talking about

The amygdala stuff is what I'm interested in. On a small scale, that's the point of the knock knock jokes.

WIA

Just e-checked that jawn out from the Library! (If you don't have a library card you losing) Looking forward to reading it, thx for the recommendation!

All means necessary.
Offline
Online
Social circle
One on one
Verbal game
Nonverbal game
Day game
Night game
Travel
Style game
Diet game
Iron game
Cake game

They all operate on her brain in different ways

WIA

(03-30-2017 12:39 PM)Apollo21 Wrote:  

(03-29-2017 08:18 PM)kirdiesel Wrote:  

(03-29-2017 12:00 PM)the high Wrote:  @kirdiesel out of curiousity what's the demographics of the city you live in? Like is there a considerable non-white population?

Mostly white Germans and a large minority of Turks.

(03-29-2017 12:04 PM)Apollo21 Wrote:  

(03-29-2017 09:35 AM)kirdiesel Wrote:  I was running some Tinder game when I came across this gem.

I just had to laugh and post it. The funny thing I have had this feeling that this trend existed here in Europe. I am sure its not limited to Europe but now its confirmed.

I have been at hip hop parties here and the girl seems all into it. You know shes single cause you been checking all night and brothers are hollering and noone is getting anywhere and a white dude comes and scoops her like..... really?

It takes some time to develop your niche practically anywhere you go.
However clubs in Germany require a mass effort...of Brothers going out to different places on a given night.

I've seen friends succeed however the talent wasn't always that great...
I've done festivals and concerts and clubs and daygame...you've really got to branch out and visit other cities like Barcelona or Paris or EE countries...
the energy and enthusiasm the girls have for Brothers there is electric...mostly because no one ever visits them...

I would also look at Instagram and doing local meetups...there's a big international crowd here...clubs only attract a tiny percent of local talent.

Whenever I meet girls outside of a club environment/aka in real life, it's night and day...She's not in a fantasy world of song and dance where she can dismiss hordes of guys on a whim...
and refuse to be social and not have a conversation. The energy is also different...it's more relaxed and you're talking to a real person...lol not her clubgirl persona...

Personally I don't really care if a girl prefers one of her own...it doesn't really matter...it's not set in stone...like the wind or the tides, it can change...and the best way to change the tide is in real life...not in a club....

I know you are anti-nightclub. I have started to Branch out and use other strategies (See my recent post on Tinder) and I am going to keep grinding on that and try to max out my results. I am also looking at starting day game starting from June 1st onwards.

Cologne is NOT really an international city I think Düsseldorf is better in that regard so I am starting to look into a branch out into there also.

I am pretty sure I have found my niche now.. its just a matter now of finding out where the most of these girls hang out and start approaching on a regular basis.

I will NOT give up nightgame. Its been my bread and butter since the beginning of time and it does yield results (not always the best) but its something if you learn how to master or find a solid niche you will have complete control of the lizards you get and you will get access to some of the hottest girls in the city.

While difficult to master, I believe nightgame is the best game there is.

Glad to hear things are picking up for you. I'm not anticlub necessarily, I just have no patience for German clubs anymore after clubbing in them for years. The atmosphere is just tired and played out for me...

I am a bit burnt out on the scene myself and the way women act inside clubs are really ridiculous sometimes so I have decided to diversify where I am getting my leads from. Having dates from online sounded really fantastic to me and so far it is and hopefully dem bitches dont flake on me! haha.

I don't want to speak too soon so lets see how this works out.

What are your guys thoughts on stand up comedy and how it affects your game?

Both watching it and performing it. Haven't done the latter but after watching Chapelle's special a while back I've been hooked and putting on a new special once every few days.


Shit has worked like dynamite to up my verbal and text game. Definitely teaches you how to ramble and go from joke to joke much for fluidly. Also solidifying how to be a bit crass and dirty when it comes to humor but not too far. Think actually performing it would help guys grow a pair of brass balls and go rock solid on figuring out social dynamics.


Food for thought.

Conte, I totally agree with this ESPECIALLY the performing part. I fully bigged up another RVF member in another thread for going on stage and trying it and I hope he keeps up with it. It gets one used to being a performer which is a big part of progress in North America as we live on one grand big stage over here.

The agility of the tongue that practising standup comedy promises is worth its weight in gold, in my opinion. I think that a laughing lizard ends up being a sexing lizard. The giggles and belly laughs affect her similarly to a jittery tongue flittering over her clit at 200 licks per second...

(03-31-2017 12:12 AM)Comte De St. Germain Wrote:  What are your guys thoughts on stand up comedy and how it affects your game?

Both watching it and performing it. Haven't done the latter but after watching Chapelle's special a while back I've been hooked and putting on a new special once every few days.


Shit has worked like dynamite to up my verbal and text game. Definitely teaches you how to ramble and go from joke to joke much for fluidly. Also solidifying how to be a bit crass and dirty when it comes to humor but not too far. Think actually performing it would help guys grow a pair of brass balls and go rock solid on figuring out social dynamics.


Food for thought.

My socialization to funniness:

Me age 13: Why do you girls all like Ethan?
My Crush: Because he's funny



My progression to being a funny man w/examples of stuff I'll say when gaming a girl now

1) Self Depreciating Humor

• Yea being tall is great except for when it comes to shit I actually need: air planes, cars, and clothes
  

2) Situational Depreciating humor

• Its called taco tuesday at practice because coach shoves a taco up our asses
  

3) Light asshole "them" depreciating humor

• **Talking to two girls** So youre a kinda a dick and your an asshole! *lol*
  

4) Hard Core Assholeness/being extremely rude

• Yea, but your dumb ass is still here, so fucking stupid. Im making fun of you and you still wont leave jesus christ!!
  

5) Balance & understanding that people don't want to be the asshole taking it seriously
6) Creativity/freestyle

• Comte: Ha you named it mufasa cuz your african?
• Me: Your name Comte because dudes cum or your Tee?
  

You have to take peoples insecurities, strengths, and weakness and make them see that they are not a big deal. Especially things that can be a "triggering" and/or offensive can be made to be laughable. Now people associate you with laughter but you've also made them comfortable in their own skin.





Another thing is I'm constantly going over situations I'm in. If I say [X] I'm pushing them towards [Y] response and I will be ready with either A, B, or C. It will look like it comes straight off the dome.

Often when me and my friends are roasting each other I'm not really paying attention to what they are saying, I'm thinking about what I'm going to say next and listening to key words and plotting my comeback.

Eventually you end up with some canned ones that you can go to quickly.

A good way to practice talking something coherent and thinking about your next move is freestlying. Can do it in your car or in your shower. What you are thinking has to match/correlate to what you are saying. In the moment you think it you are spitting it out and on to the next thought.

On a lizard brain level its all control. Im saying this to make you say this. Women love men in control.




Thinking outside the box exercises are also crucial. I had a math teacher in the 3rd grade and everyday shed give us 5 thinking outside the box problems. Shit makes you see things differently, like some "a closed door is still a door that opens" type shit.


A man gives you a lock pick and tells you we have ten seconds to get out the door. 5 seconds go by and what do you do next?

Most people don't check the door to see if its unlocked, or just kick the door in--fuck the lock pick no one said you had to use it.

Also Found this on Heartsie. About to sling it around tinder, ok cupid, and this weekend.

Quote:I’m a cold-blooded killer who likes to spoon.

So getting better at making chicks laugh is getting y'all more pussy?

Explain

WIA

(03-31-2017 08:43 AM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  So getting better at making chicks laugh is getting y'all more pussy?

Explain

WIA

I don't think it's persay laughing as it is learning how to keep women hooked. A guy who makes people laugh tends to be an expert at keeping the attention of people. The average guy on the other hand can't sense boredom and keeps mouthing off.

It's an attentiveness present in the humorous that allows them to better respond to the situation at hand. And it's a fairly common line in this neck of the woods to believe that influencing her head and her mercurial moods is infinitely better than pure, blind confidence and bravado.

The comedian has to get inside of an entire crowd's heads. We just have to get inside one and that's all the easier for us.

(03-31-2017 09:24 AM)Comte De St. Germain Wrote:  

(03-31-2017 08:43 AM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  So getting better at making chicks laugh is getting y'all more pussy?

Explain

WIA

I don't think it's persay laughing as it is learning how to keep women hooked. A guy who makes people laugh tends to be an expert at keeping the attention of people. The average guy on the other hand can't sense boredom and keeps mouthing off.

I used to think that way, fighting for girl's attention and it's a lot of work...
Now I want her to have fun seeking to keep my attention, that I validate her way of thinking and in my mind I'm just contradict everything she is coming with and come with something better, to make her justify herself more and more to me...

I know lots of funny people that don't get girls. How I see humour is as a demonstration of value, and then you convert that value and encourage her to invest. For example you make her laugh, then on that high note follow with a deeper open ended question to make things more personal, or venue change, or whatever. Then reward her investment by escalating if appropriate.

Comedy is a huge part of my character. I'm a big ass black man with a resting mean face. Aloofness would never work for me unless I was already known to have super high-status.

That said, I listen to comedy on Pandora religiously in the morning while getting ready for work. I often spit routines verbatim from some of the classics like Robin Harris, Redd Foxx & Richard Prior. Oftentimes, folks have no clue about the source of the material. I'm that guy who cracks a joke at funeral, on an elevator, in court or anywhere else seemingly inappropriate.

Also, I totally co-sign the status bump that performing can give. You wanna get some panties soaked, take a bish to a poetry slam or open mic night and get up there and slay that shit. Bishes love confidence and outside social validation. I always try to go last so I can soak up the after-glo, lol

The comedy angle doesn't work for me, I can understand if your a big guy then being funny tones it down.

I am not there to entertain some woman, she has to entertain me or show me something I haven't seen before. Yeah, it is hard to find and there are a lot of jokers that you are competing with these days.

I have much respect for someone who can go on stage and try to tell funny jokes. It isn't a easy skill to do, first you have to be good at public speaking and secondly you better have some good jokes.