Post: #9601

(03-15-2017 04:49 PM)RunsWithScissors Wrote:  Why do you want to hire some models to pose for those kind of pictures?

to fake the existence of a harem to get better results from plates.

Normally your instinct is to deny being a player, etc. But as the poster above showed, when he bragged about his harem and mentioned what they do for him that she wasn't, it changed her behaviour. You could have a picture of a hot chick in lingerie IN YOUR HOUSE doing your dishes. Tell the new plate she's not as pretty as you, but she tries harder.

Post: #9602

(03-15-2017 03:31 PM)RunsWithScissors Wrote:  Went to a newer plate's place last night, we've banged 4-5 times over the past couple of months, always at my house. She didn't have any condoms and I didn't bring any, so the topic of other girls came up.

Her: Did you bring a condom?
Me: No, don't you have any?
Her: No, you're the first I've been with since my divorce last year
Me: Well if you're inviting me over to your place you should have some
Her: Well, are you having sex with lots of other girls?
Me: Mostly just dudes (thanks wi30!)
Her: That's worse!
<we both laugh a lot, I change the subject, make out a bunch more, she's rubbing me all around her wet pussy, I can tell she's conflicted>
Her: You never answered my question
Me: What question?
Her: Are you having sex with lots of other girls?
Me: Well I don't consider us exclusive
Her: I didn't either
Me: Look, I'm fine either way, there's plenty of ways we can make each other feel good (I'd already gotten her off multiple times with my fingers and mouth)
<brief discussion on last time we were tested, proceed to bang raw>

I'm finding that dodging the question/changing the subject of other girls doesn't work really well, they bring it up again shortly wanting to know. Perhaps something with the way I present myself, I don't know.

listen, where you ended up is perfect. the worst thing you can do is have her figure out that you are not screwing anyone else because you are too lazy, don't have any other options, etc.

Post: #9603

(03-15-2017 03:31 PM)RunsWithScissors Wrote:  I'm finding that dodging the question/changing the subject of other girls doesn't work really well, they bring it up again shortly wanting to know. Perhaps something with the way I present myself, I don't know.

I just got this last week from my crazy red head plate. I think she asked me this question the day after we first banged. I usually resort to AA and then change the subject but it always comes back around. Anyway the conversation went like this (I was at the gym at the time):

Her: You fucking anyone else?
Me: Well, not at the moment. I'm at the gym.
Her: Funny.
Me: I thought so.
*subject changes to something stupid*
Then about 5 messages later...

Her: So I take that as a yes?
Me: Look, I really don't understand the question. Do I have a girlfriend? No.
Do I have a list of girls in my phone that I can call anytime for a booty call? Yes.
Have I called any of these girls recently for a fuck? No.
(I put 'recently' in there because it's subjective. It can mean anywhere from 1 hour to several months, haha)
Her: Ok.

Every time I use AA on these type of shit tests it still seems to come up at some point. My last answer seemed to work though and calmed her hamster and it really wasn't a LIE, per se, so I think I'm just going to use that as my standard answer from here on out.

Post: #9604

(03-15-2017 05:39 PM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  

(03-14-2017 08:26 AM)[email protected] Wrote:  I mentioned it in another thread but my newest plate is a red head and has the best body I've ever fucked. A solid 8.

However, she's nuts. She has been arrested 4 times for assault. 4 times! I've only known her for a week and a day and she is already texting me crazy shit about how I better not be talking to other girls. I told her my ex (baby mama) was wanting to get back with me. I did this to create just a little dread but that was a mistake. She then goes on a tangent how she usually doesn't date guys with kids and that she won't compete with any woman as she doesn't have to (she doesn't) and she can get good dick anywhere. She thinks I'm a fuck boy.

That's the bad stuff. The good stuff is she feeds my ego with telling me about how hot I am and she loves my dick. She is coming over tonight and wants me to eat her ass. Haha it will be a first for me but I'm down. I told her that if I eat her ass I'm also going to fuck her ass. She liked that. So she's definitely a dirty girl and loves sex.

I thought the challenge of spinning a redhead would be fun. And even though she is crazy hot I just don't know if it's worth the headache. Constant shit tests, covering my tracks, being accused of shit that I haven't done...and it's only been a week!

Crazy=great sex... (there's a thread somewhere)

Molested as a child + eating disorder=the gold standard

You know you're a true RVFer when you think these traits traits and daddy issues are good things in a potential bang.

Post: #9605

What the hell is wrong with US/Anglo chicks always asking how many notches you had?

3 years in France and I never got this, except a couple of joke/passing question, not some nagging insistent torrent of interrogation like this.

Bitches so basic...

Post: #9606

(03-16-2017 12:00 PM)Cattle Rustler Wrote:  

(03-15-2017 05:39 PM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  Crazy=great sex... (there's a thread somewhere)

Molested as a child + eating disorder=the gold standard

You know you're a true RVFer when you think these traits traits and daddy issues are good things in a potential bang.

Post: #9607

(03-16-2017 12:16 PM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  What the hell is wrong with US/Anglo chicks always asking how many notches you had?

3 years in France and I never got this, except a couple of joke/passing question, not some nagging insistent torrent of interrogation like this.

Bitches so basic...

That's actually a good question. You can probably boost your value by answering "enough" this is would pass the shit test.


Also just banged this chick. (Our second bang) and she just won't stay over at my place. She told me that this is her main rule since "good girls" don't spend the whole night at a guys house. I couldn't take her seriously. Guess it's something she tells herself to not feel slutty. Sex was great nonetheless.

Also I want to thank every member of this forum who brings any value he can to this place. I am very glad I've discovered the manosphere. Funny how everything we discuss and write about turns out to be always so accurate.

This chick I banged is 27 years old. She told me she had a "wealthy" guy who wanted to marry her. He even designed and renovated his home exactly as she wished "even though she didn't live there" when she later moved in with him, he wanted to take her to the Caribbean islands to propose. However, she didn't feel the whole relationship and left him after the first 6 months. She told me there were many days when she pretended to be asleep or busy when he came back from work. Guess they didn't even fuck.
So now here is me, a 24 year old broke college student who read a couple books and blogs on game and who is now fucking the brains out of this chick.

Post: #9608

Ever since I grew my hair out white girls have become so much easier. Two of my last 3 approaches have resulted in dates (one of them is a verbal commitment). I'm not a big fan of my hair but I am of the young hot white pussy! They ask and they shall receive!

Post: #9609

Hi guys, I would like some insights from you.

I'm in the game since 1 year, had +30 notches this year so getting laid isn't a problem.

Thing is that I'm a little bit disappointed about myself because I think the average sluts I have are under my SMV.

When I see girls my SMV I have a kind of AA, whereas I'm totally IDGAF with the less attractive girls and I guess this is why it works so well.

I know unconsciously that I wait girls to give hints like eyes contacts or dancing around me, before I usually approach them. And this is maybe why I don't get the quality I want, because the hoter ones don't express their interest that obviously.

Did you guys go through this as well younger ? I'm 25yo

Post: #9610

(03-19-2017 09:32 AM)littlehorse Wrote:  Thing is that I'm a little bit disappointed about myself because I think the average sluts I have are under my SMV.

When I see girls my SMV I have a kind of AA, whereas I'm totally IDGAF with the less attractive girls and I guess this is why it works so well.

Just out of curiosity, if one of these girls would give you a hard time before sex, would you still consider them as sluts?

Post: #9611

Zanardi,

95% of them are ONS from clubs, so if she gives me hard time and few dates to bang her : the answer is no I would consider her less sluty.

But most of the time if she doesn't put out the first night, I don't want to invest time in dates with her.

Explain your point if you are on something.
Thanks

Post: #9612

Biensur. There was something in what you wrote that made me wonder.

You said this:

1. You perceive the average sluts as being with a lower SMV than yours
2. You have AA around girls that you perceive as having the same SMV than yours
   

Which means it's everything a matter of perception.

However, the first and most obvious slut tell is how quickly can you bang her. But, you don't either want to wait a few dates to bang a non-slut. If I understood well, you want to quickly bang non-sluts. This is why I asked.

I think it's all a matter of what you think about a gal. I get the same feelings and results as you do around girls I like and girls I don't care too much about.

@All: do you happen to have moments when you doubt you did solid game on a girl, even if almost every reaction of her proves that your doubts are futile?

Post: #9613

Hey guys, I'm looking for a spot of advice.

Chatted up an 18 year old on tinder, got her number and gave her a call. I assumed that she was maybe a first year university student but it turns out she's an international student in her final months of high school and living with her parents which is not something I've dealt with before.

The legal drinking age here is 18 so going out for some drinks or playing some pool and having a beer is fine, I was just wondering what kind of logistical considerations I need to keep in mind or enquire about. I'm not sure if she'll have to lie to her parents to go out with me, or if she'll have to sneak out, or if she can even tell her parents about it. In any case I'm pretty sure there's gonna be a definite curfew involved so I'll have to ask about that and keep track of time.

What else do I need to keep track of? Do you think that it might be too much trouble given that she's still in HS? In any case she's pretty cute, otherwise I wouldn't have bothered. For the rest I was just planning to run standard game, and maybe some additional comfort since she might be a little bit skittish.

Would appreciate your thoughts.

Post: #9614

Had an attractive 27 year old French girl at my place tonight (5'11", brunette, slim/athletic, fresh direct). Was under the premise of drinks and watching a movie. She was eager, essentially initiated the plans and was drinking copious amounts of Jack after arriving. Lost count of all the whiskey shots, but she maintained her composure. Didn't dig her personality entirely (kind of arrogant and self-involved, probably just some bravado)- but she was pleasant, amiable and gave me some compliments. She was laughing here and there and exhibited positive body language- figured at a minimum, a make out was gonna go down.

Broke the touch barrier early on and she reciprocated a bit. Slowly escalated my touching over the course of evening- standard affair for me at this point. Somewhere around 40-50 mins into the meet, said she had to leave soon/after her last shot, so I knew it was time to make a move (or perhaps she was imposing a false time constraint hoping I would do something), Went for the kiss- and got the dreaded head turn. Yikes. She playfully said 'you're crazy'. I made a little joke about it in the wake of the awkward attempt. Few mins after- walked her out. She hugged me and left, sending a text 'Thanks 1337. good night' a couple mins later. Weird- but I wouldn't call it dead in the water. Will def go radio silent for now and not send a restart until Sunday afternoon.

What do yall make of this one? She might be playing hard to get or is just more traditional- but it's shit like this (lack of reciprocation- not even a kiss) that makes me drive myself crazy thinking I made stupid, avoidable mistakes- misreading queues, etc. (which shouldn't occur after being in the game this long). Or I can comfortably fall back on the ol' adage- 'bitches be crazy'.

Post: #9615

Starting to approach girls on a more consistent basis again. My main game is that coffee shop game with salsa night thrown in, so we'll see how things go...

Post: #9616

(03-20-2017 10:31 PM)Player_1337 Wrote:  Broke the touch barrier early on and she reciprocated a bit. Slowly escalated my touching over the course of evening- standard affair for me at this point. Somewhere around 40-50 mins into the meet, said she had to leave soon/after her last shot, so I knew it was time to make a move (or perhaps she was imposing a false time constraint hoping I would do something), Went for the kiss- and got the dreaded head turn. Yikes. She playfully said 'you're crazy'. I made a little joke about it in the wake of the awkward attempt. Few mins after- walked her out. She hugged me and left, sending a text 'Thanks 1337. good night' a couple mins later. Weird- but I wouldn't call it dead in the water. Will def go radio silent for now and not send a restart until Sunday afternoon.

You maybe could've agree'd and amplified on the "you're crazy" comment. Said something slick and used your index and middle figer to push her chin back t'words you and went a 2nd time. Light show of dominance while she maintains true control of her head. Other than that sounds like she was just drunk and LMR was amplified instead of diminished. Alcohol effects people differently and of course - bitches be crazy.

-

Lost my main girl to a trip back to her home town - some place in florida. She started acting distant a few days before she left and flaked on a fuck sesh we were suppose to have before she made tracks. I told her I was gonna fuck her so hard that she wouldn't even think about dick for the week she was in Florida. My guess is she already lined some shit up before she left (probably with an old flame) and felt guilty and didn't want to see me again. I liked her but she always gave off mad slut vibes, no real suprise. I didn't take it very hard. I guess I'm gonna have to start doing my own dishes again, I'm more mad about that.

Side girl - well I guess only girl now - came over because I asked her for a cuddle. I feel like I broke frame doing that, showed too much vulnerability. I rationalized it by telling myself I'm ready to lose her at any time or leave her if she gets disrespectful, and I really did want a cuddle. She told me she wasn't going to have sex with me though. That turned into a 4 hour sex session. Went raw and busted in a girl for the first time in 8 years. It was pretty good. She took some extra birth control just in case and went home.

Me and an old fling are talking but I just can't re-ignite the flame it's a real bitch. I had her all ready to come over yesterday and she comes at me out of the blue like "my ex's side bitch just messaged me on facebook I'm really not in the mood for false affection". False affection? Exes side bitch? What the fuck kinda bullshit is that. I had no real counter, just told her to get her pretty ass over smoke some weed and get some dick. Didn't work.

I need some fresh talent. After I get my bills paid this month I'll work on it. For now I'm hoping I can score an extra lay or two off tinder and side g - ahem- only girl will float me till then. I've been neglecting day game so hard and I'm regretting the fuck out of it now.

Post: #9617

First time out doing a proper daygame session in my city today (have done it while travelling but it's a lot easier).

Made about 10 approaches in 1-2 hours between myself and my mate that ended in 3 numbers and a few drinks with a girl we met out

As we're completely new there's a few things we highlighted we can improve on...:
- Leaving a set early. There were times in-set where girls were clearly interested but I bounced early. This is primarily because I didn't really know what to do to begin with

- Jumping too quickly between topics. My mate was particularly bad at this and at times the conversation became a little forced or unnatural. He was trying to gear the conversation towards drinks on the weekend within the first minute haha...

- Not closing properly. My mate also fucked up a couple sets where he gave them the opportunity to not want to give us number/ facebook etc. Ending with a simple 'you seem cool, chuck us your number/ snapchat etc' worked a lot better

In saying that, there were some positives...:
- Approaching is pretty easy. Chicks are real friendly in the day. Got a heap of IOIs and literally no blowouts. We didn't get a boyfriend line out of any approaches and the hottest girls we approached (a couple of 19yo Spanish 8s) were the most friendly and number closed us

- I can see going solo a lot easier, but a lot less fun. I feel like I would have better success going solo (similar to nightgame), but wouldn't feel as obliged to make approaches like I would going with a mate

- Insta-dating wouldn't be a terrible idea. One girl we ran into came back up to us at the bar we asked for directions to and had drinks with us. Setting that kind of frame with travellers especially who have fuck all to do is a good idea

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All in all, can see why daygame gets a good wrap and keen to go out again when I have time later in the week

Post: #9618

(03-20-2017 11:59 AM)Zanardi Wrote:  Biensur. There was something in what you wrote that made me wonder.

You said this:

1. You perceive the average sluts as being with a lower SMV than yours
2. You have AA around girls that you perceive as having the same SMV than yours
   

Which means it's everything a matter of perception.

However, the first and most obvious slut tell is how quickly can you bang her. But, you don't either want to wait a few dates to bang a non-slut. If I understood well, you want to quickly bang non-sluts. This is why I asked.

I think it's all a matter of what you think about a gal. I get the same feelings and results as you do around girls I like and girls I don't care too much about.

@All: do you happen to have moments when you doubt you did solid game on a girl, even if almost every reaction of her proves that your doubts are futile?

I dont thint it's about getting sluts or non-sluts.
I think I get more nervous around girls my SMV, because I feel that she is hot enough for me to date her.
I put them on pedestal, so it fucks my game or I just don't even approach them.
But like you said it's just a matter of perception.

I found this :
https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2012/10/...ful-women/

I think this is my biggest problem in game. Losing my frame with girl my SMV or above, and thinking that because they are hot enough : I have to change my game to bed or date them.
Maybe this is the problem, I shouldn't think about dating them ? Just bedding them and ditching them like the average chicks.

Post: #9619

I came across this video today. It's a from a youtube channel called, "To Catch a Cheater"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6N_kYzJV4j8

It's an entertaining watch, but a good takeaway is the game used by the actor in it. He goes very direct, but at the same time is relaxed. He is inviting her for wine at his place which is both openly sexual at the same time there is nothing explicit about it. No ASD gets triggered. There is plausible deniability on her part if she chooses to accept.

He deals with all her objections and keeps pushing forward. He is not offended or butt-hurt by any rejection. He just keeps persisting and it turns the girl on.

He reveals absolutely nothing about himself on a personal level. He doesn't need to.

Post: #9620

Finally got around to dropping this crazy red head I have been seeing for a little more than two weeks. But it's an ongoing drama fuckfest.

She came over Tuesday (only the third time we have seen each other/fuck session). I knew from the beginning that she was looking for a relationship and something long term but I was just blinded by her hotness. The sex was fire too. However I knew Tuesday night I was going to have to hit the eject button sooner than later. She told me to cum inside her during our second round, and I almost did as she caught me at my most vulnerable state (seconds from busting). Luckily I swatted away that primal urge and pulled out. Then she starts talking about marriage again (not with me, specifically, but it's heavily implied). It was pretty much at that point I knew I was going to pull the ejection cord the next day.

So yesterday at lunch I texted her that I was not looking for anything serious YET, but I really enjoy my time with her. She went nuclear as expected. The name calling started, how I just used her for sex, etc., etc. She called me a 40 year old fuckboy (yet, she fucked me too the first night so does that mean she's a slut?). I didn't respond to her nasty texts and just kept my responses short and to the point.

Then she starts demanding money from me. She wanted money for Plan B and gas money. It was so hard for me not to ask her "Wait, so if I pay you gas money for the sex you provided, doesn't that make you a prostitute?" But I refrained as I knew I wasn't dealing with a logical creature. I agreed to pay her for the Plan B as it would be more just a peace of mind for me anyway. The nasty texts from her continued for awhile.

And then, as we all know what happens, her emotional roller coaster began it's downward slope. She sent me a "I'm sorry" texts and how she is a bitch but she doesn't want my money. I'm grinning as I read these, and thinking "The hamster at work, ladies and gentlemen". Apparently she was married, which she told me when she was busy calling me a slut, and she apologized for lying to me about that (she has been separated for 2 years...well, according to her). I continue to ignore her for the night and she is texting me about how she really liked me and how I was so hot, blah blah blah.

Today the texts start again. I probably made a mistake by responding to her, but I just told her she lied to me about being married and that's a deal breaker for me. Ignoring her is my best option and it drives her crazy because I'm sure she isn't used to guys ignoring her. I'm hoping she latches on to another poor soul quickly and leaves me alone. This is borderline Fatal Attraction shit.

I always wanted to bang a true red head because I heard they were crazy good at sex and I got it all right. And then some. Just use my experience as just another example: Never stick your dick in crazy. No matter how hot she is.

Post: #9621

^^^^Why didn't you just play the fade away game ?

You could've avoided all of this by just doing that and when she asked "what are we" "we haven't been hanging out"

Just simply say you're busy with work and some family issues and say it's probably for the best we end things and not lead her on.

Clearly she's a stage 5 clinger after 2 weeks, that right there is a red flag (pun intended) for crazy.

Unfortunately some of the craziest chicks can fuck the best.

Player Rule# 3 If a bitch says "Cum inside me baby" YOU NEVER CUM INSIDE HER !

You can't even trust a girl to take Plan B nowadays, even if you see her swallow it.

Definitely do not contact her again.

Post: #9622

(03-23-2017 03:58 PM)kaotic Wrote:  Unfortunately some of the craziest chicks can fuck the best.

Word Cotton
Why are crazy chicks the best in bed?

Post: #9623

She is the type to show up at my apartment. Did I mention she has been arrested four times for Assault? What was I thinking, indeed.

Anyway I blocked her on my phone. Hoping she just fades away.

Post: #9624

(03-23-2017 06:11 PM)[email protected] Wrote:  She is the type to show up at my apartment. Did I mention she has been arrested four times for Assault? What was I thinking, indeed.

Anyway I blocked her on my phone. Hoping she just fades away.

Playing with fire. I'd say this is worse than playing with fire. You're pouring gasoline all over yourself and rolling around in it.

Gotta stay away from the borderline personality chicks man. Hope this turns out okay for you.

Post: #9625

(03-23-2017 04:45 PM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  

(03-23-2017 03:58 PM)kaotic Wrote:  Unfortunately some of the craziest chicks can fuck the best.

Word Cotton
Why are crazy chicks the best in bed?

Yeah I read that post a few weeks ago and I would be lying if I said it didn't wet my appetite to fuck a crazy chick. I wanted to see what all the fuss was about. And it was spot on. The sex was fire...But at what cost?

What is wrong with you people?