This is a decent looking friend of mine who does really well on Tinder.
Gets loads of matches, girls messaging him first and just asks for their numbers within a few exchanges.
Having the best pictures he can find of himself does so much of the leg work it's just a case of don't fuck up.

(Apologies for the pic size I don't know how to shrink it on here)

I am just starting conversations with "hi" or other standard nowadays, because I believe every beta is sending some BS-trying-to-be-funny opener. What are you thoughts about this? Anyone tested between those?

(03-13-2017 12:04 PM)StackGsMan Wrote:  That being said, I think what some of you guys have stated is the truth as well, I'm the reason some of these dates are awkward and my game is weak. I'm presenting these girls with a major catfish dilemma. I was at least 60 lbs lighter in my pics than I am right now, so I think they show up and are like, "wtf".

Yeah man, fix this. ASAP. Girls notice this shit off the bat and you're fighting an uphill battle the moment they see you.

One of my favorite conversation topics with these online girls is: "What's your worst experience so far on this app?". About 99.9% of them say when a guys doesn't look like their pictures. Don't be THAT guy.

(03-14-2017 05:19 AM)luckskywalker Wrote:  I am just starting conversations with "hi" or other standard nowadays, because I believe every beta is sending some BS-trying-to-be-funny opener. What are you thoughts about this? Anyone tested between those?

i wouldn't do that

send a one liner, not too long, but not trying to hard/cute

most important, back and forth, quick strike, don't re-message

remember, it happens quick or it doesn't, period

mostly, it doesn't, they are attention whores

Honestly, 'Hey ' works as good as anything.

you've wasted zero time and the ball's in their court.

Get a good set of openers you're comfortable with and can actually play with if the girl wants to banter.

"hey " is for chumps. No risk no investment. Tinder girls want fun and dick, "hey" is neither. You want something medium risk and medium investment that will catch her attention; preferably something borderline sexual. Google tinder openers and find something that works with your style.

Of course disregard all of the above if you are 8+ looks, then "hey" will get your laid.


I've looked at about 5 girls I've banged off tinder's Tinder. You don't want to be one of the 60+ "hey"s

I almost always find something in their profile or pictures to pivot to my opener. If they give one-word responses, move on to another topic and change the tone. Basically your goal is find the right buttons for THAT particular girl. Using standard openers is pretty lame, you need to develop your wit and you'll get favorable bites almost every time.

Went from getting steady matches daily to significantly less. Think it's time for me to make a dummy fb profile, delete my current Tinder account and start over.

I'm still not sure if Tinder locks your ELO ranking to your profile but what I do is just delete my tinder profile, remove the app from facebook (wait about an hour) and sign in again. I do this pretty often, i've matched with some girls up to 4 times doing this which is usually interesting. You know if a girl matches with you 2+ times she's probably down.

I don't get why these chicks agree to a date, but the moment you ask for their number they act like you just asked for their SSN and then proceed to ghost haha. I'll hit her up tomorrow night, and ask if she's still down to go out but I'm not holding my breath.

calidude, my 2c:

1. You blew an opp to connect with her regarding the tattoo. I would have let her send a wall of text about what she's thinking about and then made some intriguing remark about how it matches her personality (or some shit).

2. I don't set up dates through the app, never. Go for # first. Alternatively, if I know I hooked well I just drop my # and walk away from the convo. It works surprisingly well so long as you got her interest

I am not seeing you turn up the sexual vibe. I always lead the convo there in the app, before #. Also it helps filter out time wasters for me.

Last time I didn't amp the sexual vibe with a chick up: I met up with her and she expected me to buy her dinner. So I said dollar menu or fuck off. She fucked off

(03-14-2017 05:20 PM)astro Wrote:  calidude, my 2c:

1. You blew an opp to connect with her regarding the tattoo. I would have let her send a wall of text about what she's thinking about and then made some intriguing remark about how it matches her personality (or some shit).

2. I don't set up dates through the app, never. Go for # first. Alternatively, if I know I hooked well I just drop my # and walk away from the convo. It works surprisingly well so long as you got her interest

I am not seeing you turn up the sexual vibe. I always lead the convo there in the app, before #. Also it helps filter out time wasters for me.

Last time I didn't amp the sexual vibe with a chick up: I met up with her and she expected me to buy her dinner. So I said dollar menu or fuck off. She fucked off

I don't really turn the conversation sexual because I know these girls have a bunch of messages basically asking if their dtf, so I figured it would be best to avoid this approach. Also,I feel like as long as I can meet these chicks in person I can run my game and fuck them, and because we're in college they're not expecting some dinner date shit. But how do you go about turning it sexual without scaring them off?

Also, looks wise I'd say I'm about average, so I don't get that many matches. And one girl I fucked off there said that a lot of the guys on the app are basically frat bros which is not my style at all, but I think most college chicks are into that.

I usually get number first before asking for date as well. gradually builds up comfort I suppose.

Should I delete stale matches?

I have read that you want to keep all your matches to max your potential Tinder score. Is this true?

I have a bunch (~100) stale matches, some stalled conversations and some never opened, that I want to delete as they are clutter and make it difficult to navigate to the 10 or so on which I want to focus for this weekend.

I was pipelining a girl in a timeframe of 2 weeks. I don't think this is the best option to do, is too fucking annoying trying to make her not lose interest for 2 entire weeks and also very boring to keep talking shit you don't care. Next time I'll do it in a timeframe of 4-5 days max.

(03-14-2017 09:36 PM)Jack_Smith Wrote:  Should I delete stale matches?

I have read that you want to keep all your matches to max your potential Tinder score. Is this true?

I have a bunch (~100) stale matches, some stalled conversations and some never opened, that I want to delete as they are clutter and make it difficult to navigate to the 10 or so on which I want to focus for this weekend.

Use Flamite. Makes it much easier.

(03-14-2017 05:01 PM)calidude Wrote:  I don't get why these chicks agree to a date, but the moment you ask for their number they act like you just asked for their SSN and then proceed to ghost haha. I'll hit her up tomorrow night, and ask if she's still down to go out but I'm not holding my breath.

Too long time-frame, preamble, rambling. Next....

Meanwhile on Russian Tinder:



And the funny thing is that this guy gets laid.

Looks like I made some egregious errors here. This is bumble. I think the first part of the convo went okay but then it went south quickly. there's one more screen shot after this post:

Part 2:



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1. I think the biggest mistake was after she made her first rant about being pumped and dumped, instead of ignoring or spinning it into a positive like "it's a good thing we get to start fresh every moment," I retardedly said "oh come on, you can't be that jaded after being ghosted." dumb dumb dumb.

2. Bitch is attractive in the pics but I guess getting pumped and dumped made her crazy. Who the hell rants to a complete stranger on a dating site about getting pumped and dumped?

3. Given the way I played my hand, I shouldn't have given that ultimatum in the end. No chicks like things that laid out in the open and no one likes ultimatums. And since I did, and she said we should meet and chat as "friends for now." I probably should have taken it and just met for a coffee and go from there.


Thoughts? Thoughts on my analysis? Can you guys point out the mistakes I made and what you would have done? Thanks.

(03-16-2017 02:12 AM)BetaNoMore Wrote:  Part 2:



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1. I think the biggest mistake was after she made her first rant about being pumped and dumped, instead of ignoring or spinning it into a positive like "it's a good thing we get to start fresh every moment," I retardedly said "oh come on, you can't be that jaded after being ghosted." dumb dumb dumb.

2. Bitch is attractive in the pics but I guess getting pumped and dumped made her crazy. Who the hell rants to a complete stranger on a dating site about getting pumped and dumped?

3. Given the way I played my hand, I shouldn't have given that ultimatum in the end. No chicks like things that laid out in the open and no one likes ultimatums. And since I did, and she said we should meet and chat as "friends for now." I probably should have taken it and just met for a coffee and go from there.


Thoughts? Thoughts on my analysis? Can you guys point out the mistakes I made and what you would have done? Thanks.

You didn't do anything wrong. Bitches are nuts.

The only thing I would add to your response is, "So, do you feel like sucking a massive dick tonight or what?"

< It's ok - you should have gone for the number and the coffee date - the coffee date best being shifted to a drink date in the evening.

"Let's meet and see what happens" is better than nothing unless you have more DTF girls in the stable.

Women are emotion-driven creatures that change opinions instantly the moment they meet a guy who is interesting to them.

(03-14-2017 05:20 PM)astro Wrote:  calidude, my 2c:

1. You blew an opp to connect with her regarding the tattoo. I would have let her send a wall of text about what she's thinking about and then made some intriguing remark about how it matches her personality (or some shit).

2. I don't set up dates through the app, never. Go for # first. Alternatively, if I know I hooked well I just drop my # and walk away from the convo. It works surprisingly well so long as you got her interest

I am not seeing you turn up the sexual vibe. I always lead the convo there in the app, before #. Also it helps filter out time wasters for me.

Last time I didn't amp the sexual vibe with a chick up: I met up with her and she expected me to buy her dinner. So I said dollar menu or fuck off. She fucked off

I disagree. Convo is solid. Note also the responding time/dates. The guy takes a day to respond. That's how it should be. Going for the date without getting the # is the way to go if you don't want to waste your time.

(03-14-2017 09:36 PM)Jack_Smith Wrote:  Should I delete stale matches?

I have read that you want to keep all your matches to max your potential Tinder score. Is this true?

I have a bunch (~100) stale matches, some stalled conversations and some never opened, that I want to delete as they are clutter and make it difficult to navigate to the 10 or so on which I want to focus for this weekend.

I noticed something similar. The first couple of days after installing Tinder I got a ton of matches (>50). I later unmatched those that would not reply or not reply in the way I want (not giving DTF signals). The following days I would not get any new matches. My guess is that Tinder algorithm reacts negatively to unmatches.

           

(03-13-2017 12:04 PM)StackGsMan Wrote:  That being said, I think what some of you guys have stated is the truth as well, I'm the reason some of these dates are awkward and my game is weak. I'm presenting these girls with a major catfish dilemma. I was at least 60 lbs lighter in my pics than I am right now, so I think they show up and are like, "wtf".

Unless that 60lb is all muscle then you should make fixing this your first priority.

Put it this way, if I showed up and the girl was 60lb heavier than her photos I'd hightail it out of there before she could even recognise me.

(03-16-2017 02:12 AM)BetaNoMore Wrote:  Who the hell rants to a complete stranger on a dating site about getting pumped and dumped?

She's looking for a mangina emotional-tampon right now and getting her lines crossed by venting to someone she'd otherwise expect to be alpha (to develop attraction). If there's a way to translate that into a lay, he has to be careful because sending a woman through a second pump and dump on the basis of letting her cry on his shoulder over the first seems to be asking for trouble. Should he really pursue if he does not see her as LTR material?

Does anyone have or use 6tin and if so, how do you get it to recognize the new location settings if you navigate to a foreign location? Sometimes it works but mostly it's been reverting back to matches in my local area. I use it on windows 10 computer, not a phone