Post: #5851

It's a numbers game jack. Keep it short but not too short, get a little cute but not too much, biggest rule by FAR

do not take it seriously, at all. repeat that line out loud 5 times.

at this stage in the game, western tinder is more about entertainment and attention, and totally random as to whether you can convert something, all things being equal

it's like rolling dice on when her hormones start that month

if you consider that there are some girls that don't realize that Tinder is not a good site to "date" you'll soon realize how low quality, stupid, or attention whoring they are

keep it short and move on, 99% are time wasters

read this all again

Post: #5852

I understand you shouldn't take your Ls so hard but there's no point in acting like you have no control over the situation. Good game gets you women, if it were all random chance this forum wouldn't exist.

Post: #5853

(02-24-2017 02:36 PM)Eugenics Wrote:  I understand you shouldn't take your Ls so hard but there's no point in acting like you have no control over the situation. Good game gets you women, if it were all random chance this forum wouldn't exist.

Nah, Kid Twist is right. A lot of the time, outside factors beyond your control can determine whether she will continue talking to you.

Maybe she farted and shit herself a little bit and that upset her and then she looks at your profile, still upset by her shart, and decides you're trash because she still has negative emotion from her shart. How is it your fault she had too many beans for dinner and her flatulence is more juicy? Answer: it's not. But you're thinking of logical explanation...women don't speak that language. Hers is emotion, and all in the span of 2 minutes she sharted juice, got upset, looked at your profile, disgusted by you, moved on. Oh wow, look...15 new messages from thirsty guys. Open message 1....

Obviously I used an extreme nasty example, but others may include: her period, her cat got ran over, bad hair day, pimple on her ass, etc, etc. The list of negative emotional stimulus is endless with women.

It's a numbers game, man. You're just playing the numbers.

Post: #5854

I'm going to have to disagree. I've always been a fan of the oldschool wisdom of "the brad pitt rule". It was made as a thought experiment to allow you to take a flake as a sign of disinterest. I take it a step further. Dude is past his prime but the idea still remains.

Would she flake/decline/be disinterested if you were brad pitt?

If the answer is yes you have done all you can do. No amount of looks, status, or game would've convinced her otherwise.

If the answer is no then you have some work to do. Up your status, max your looks, up your game.

Trying to say you're powerless is not only wrong but I think it's a cop-out. A man's will to power is one of the strongest forces in this world, don't give it up so easily. Don't kill yourself over one girl but let's not all act like we could have done nothing better.

I am willing to bet that many of the disinterested parties that you guys claim to be powerless over could've been swayed with better game, status, better pictures, better logistics etc.

I'm not saying be so hard on yourself, but don't limit yourself improvement. If you can look yourself in the mirror and say with all honesty "I did my best", then fine disregard the above. Can you do that though? With every interaction, every situation that you could have bent to your liking?

I can't, I'm proud of those who can.

Post: #5855

Yes, but that's the thing...you (nor I) are Brad Pitt. We're Joe Schmo from the interwebs.

There is only so much info she can get from an online profile. If you meet in person, then yes more game to do. But, in the end, you can't negotiate attraction.

Not to mention why waste all that time on some dating app whore?

Abundance Mentality.

Post: #5856

I never said to treat a girl like she's special or value them highly. That's some sucker shit, we're all aware of what abundance mentality does for a man. I just said work on your interactions and yourself and don't write off your failures as out of your control.

Once you fuck it up with one girl it's done, move on. If you're good you'll be working on 3-10 girls at a time. I'm just preaching self improvement instead of powerlessness here. I'm not trying to shame anyone for not making it work with one girl, or any of them. You can do what you can do at the time.

So yes it's a numbers game. Yes none us are brad pitt. But those interactions you are claiming to be powerless over; Did you really do all you could do to get the best most flattering pictures you could? Did you really think of the psychology of your opener and the following banter to capture the girls emotions?

Maybe at the time it was all you could do; but moving forward and in preperation for the future I'm almost 100% positive there is more you can do. Whether it be working on inner game, raising your status, maxing out your looks or something else that will - in the end - help you.

Don't fall into the dunning-kruger effect trap of thinking you're as good as you're going to get and write off unsuccesful attempts as beyond your control. Once again I'm not advocating getting hung up on one girl, one interaction, or even a group of them. Gather data and make yourself better.

Post: #5857

(02-24-2017 02:28 PM)ksbms Wrote:  Matched with a girl, six I guess, and on Friday, she opened late afternoon with a 'Marilyn gif kiss', so replied 'good you like kissing but are you actually cool?' started chatting, all going smooth, and got her number at 7pm, which is just now. Should I push for tonight? Straight to mine? Bar? Or tomorrow? Never been successful with going past numbers.

Messaged back and forth on whatsapp, girl, I'd say, from pics, a low six at best, she declined to meet later tonight, as apparently her friend's staying over but wants it, as she said "you can take me for a drink date". If no better prospects come along, I'll meet her in a bar near me, one drink, then back to mine - won't put more effort into that.

Post: #5858

(02-24-2017 02:28 PM)ksbms Wrote:  Matched with a girl, six I guess, and on Friday, she opened late afternoon with a 'Marilyn gif kiss', so replied 'good you like kissing but are you actually cool?' started chatting, all going smooth, and got her number at 7pm, which is just now. Should I push for tonight? Straight to mine? Bar? Or tomorrow? Never been successful with going past numbers.

do it

Post: #5859

Whoever mentioned that Tinder matches will get you in their Facebook friend suggestions.... You were spot on. Blew a load in this girl a few days ago, now she's texting me she found out my real name.

Post: #5860

Whoever mentioned that Tinder matches will get you in their Facebook friend suggestions.... You were spot on. Blew a load in this girl a few days ago, now she's texting me she found out my real name. No idea what was the culprit, my Apple ID or my phone number.

Post: #5861

(02-25-2017 05:27 AM)asdfk Wrote:  Whoever mentioned that Tinder matches will get you in their Facebook friend suggestions.... You were spot on. Blew a load in this girl a few days ago, now she's texting me she found out my real name.

Maybe she found you by your phone number if you are using whatsapp (which belongs to Facebook) or if you told Facebook your phone number.

Post: #5862

I've had girls I banged a year ago showing up in "people you may know" on Facebook. No idea how that works. I've also had previous dates I've been fairly anonymous with adding me as a friend because I've showed up in their "people you may know". Be careful out there, gents.

This, by the way, has nothing to do with Tinder. Sometimes I've met them on POF.

It might be a Whatsapp thing.

Post: #5863

(02-25-2017 08:05 AM)griffinmill Wrote:  I've had girls I banged a year ago showing up in "people you may know" on Facebook. No idea how that works. I've also had previous dates I've been fairly anonymous with adding me as a friend because I've showed up in their "people you may know". Be careful out there, gents.

This, by the way, has nothing to do with Tinder. Sometimes I've met them on POF.

It might be a Whatsapp thing.

Most likely Whatsapp, since they are sharing some data between eachother in case you haven't disabled that in time.

Post: #5864

Hey guys, my first msg here.

Do you guys have any clue if texting back and forth with your matches affects your overall ranking on tinder algorithm?

Post: #5865

(02-25-2017 09:24 AM)Dkby Wrote:  

(02-25-2017 08:05 AM)griffinmill Wrote:  I've had girls I banged a year ago showing up in "people you may know" on Facebook. No idea how that works. I've also had previous dates I've been fairly anonymous with adding me as a friend because I've showed up in their "people you may know". Be careful out there, gents.

This, by the way, has nothing to do with Tinder. Sometimes I've met them on POF.

It might be a Whatsapp thing.

Most likely Whatsapp, since they are sharing some data between eachother in case you haven't disabled that in time.

Whatsapp, Facebook and Instagram are all connected. It's crazy. I recently set up a new Instgaram account on my phone. I never connected it to my Facebook. I never connected my Facebook to my phone number either. Then I open the newly created Instagram account and I get suggestions to add people who I am friends with on Facebook and people whose phone numbers I have saved in my phone. I didn't even know the Facebook and Instagram accounts of those people and yet it showed it to me. It is obvious at that point, that Instagram made a change in their algorithm that shows you people you have on whatsapp and facebook. Facebook made that change a couple of months ago already when they started prompting people to update their phone numbers in their facebook profiles.

Post: #5866

(02-24-2017 11:05 AM)Jack_Smith Wrote:  

(09-18-2016 12:30 PM)General Stalin Wrote:  @JWLZG

Bio is probably fine comrade. Girls is just throwing up her obligatory anti-slut flag. Really no different than a girl asking "so what are you looking for on here?" She's on fucking Tinder after all so whatever.

Good text game, and good job soothing the hamster.

Paint me a newb, but what is the best response to that questions? Got it for the first time from a dope AF 21 yo cutie a couple weeks ago... and blew her out... First tried "no expectations, going with the flow = silence; then went direct = unmatched.

I've been asked that question many times and I normally reply with;

I'm looking for a cute girl to go on a date with. Are you free tomorrow night?

Post: #5867

(02-25-2017 05:28 AM)asdfk Wrote:  Whoever mentioned that Tinder matches will get you in their Facebook friend suggestions.... You were spot on. Blew a load in this girl a few days ago, now she's texting me she found out my real name. No idea what was the culprit, my Apple ID or my phone number.

Yeah, I noticed this too.

I am pretty sure it is because of your contact list. All the girls that are suggested to me are girls who I added in my phonebook as opposed to just matching and talking with them on Tinder.

Post: #5868

So I am heading to a city about 1.5hr away for the weekend and I been pipelining since I got a hotel out there and all that.

Soon as I told this broad I live 1.5hr away she unmatched my ass. Should I be lying?

What kind of pipelining game are you guys running.. Is there a Tinder pipelining datasheet im not finding?

Post: #5869

My last out-of-state I switched locations one week in advance. Matched a ton of girls, filtered them down, and met up with a handful. The only time I mentioned I wasn't local:

1. After meetup and them wanting to go to my place
2. The ones I didn't meet up with, but there was intent on their part

In ALL cases I said I visit often for business and could fly out any time I wanted. For those I didn't meet up with, they literally said to hit them up next time I am in town.

Typical ASL. So long as they feel like they can continue to see you, it erodes the concept of pump and dump in the hamster.

Post: #5870

(02-28-2017 04:03 PM)astro Wrote:  My last out-of-state I switched locations one week in advance. Matched a ton of girls, filtered them down, and met up with a handful. The only time I mentioned I wasn't local:

1. After meetup and them wanting to go to my place
2. The ones I didn't meet up with, but there was intent on their part

In ALL cases I said I visit often for business and could fly out any time I wanted. For those I didn't meet up with, they literally said to hit them up next time I am in town.

Typical ASL. So long as they feel like they can continue to see you, it erodes the concept of pump and dump in the hamster.

Yeah I should have lied/come up with some BS. Lesson learned.. Thanks!

Post: #5871

You guys tell me how common this sort of thing is...

Yesterday I matched an HB8 who originally hails from eastern europe. Totally out of my league. 10 years my junior. It seemed too good to be true. We chatted on Tinder on and off for a long time until I finally convinced her to do a coffee date for this Friday.

The conversation started up again the next day (today) and I managed to get her email address. The address had her full name in it, and because of her origin, it was an unusual one, so like a lot of people I immediately took it to google to see what popped up.

Well, one of the first things that popped in was a news story related to an alleged sex crime that related to a foreigner that was boarding at her house. I don't want to get too deep into the particulars because it blows the anonymity of the forum other than to say that her relationship to the incident probably destroyed her social reputation.

As you can imagine, her marriage is dissolving as a result of this, and rather than wait for a real divorce she's Tinderizing while still living under one roof with the guy.

I chose to tell her that I don't date separated women rather than letting her know I knew about the crime incident.

You take this and my ex who was so clingy I had to threaten a restraining order and it either means women on the dating sites are seriously damaged goods or my SMV is just so sh*tty that they're the only ones who will give me the time of day. Probably somewhere in the middle.



I've gotta imagine more people on Tinder than not have some sort of rap sheet or other serious social-stigma baggage. The only reason it doesn't cause problems is because people just meet discretely and f*ck and don't get to know who they're really with. I made the mistake of taking it down a regular LTR track.

Post: #5872

@questor70

We all have stories like that. One of the girls I met up with waited until the very last moment to drop "I have genital herpes". Wasted a whole night and I washed my hands like 20 times haha.

The ones you REALLY need to avoid are the super sexy borderline personality disorder chicks. Sirens they are, great in bed, but will destroy your life. More guys need to be screening chicks for the meds they are on and psychiatric history, if it's gonna be anything more than a fling.

Post: #5873

does anyone use 6tin and apart from location spoofing, does it actually have other tricks like telling you who liked you? I recall reading that but don't see it as an option

I'm just using it to check out how much better the girls are worldwide; I'm from a large American city too, which is funny. it's not.even.close.

Post: #5874

(03-02-2017 04:15 PM)Kid Twist Wrote:  does anyone use 6tin and apart from location spoofing, does it actually have other tricks like telling you who liked you? I recall reading that but don't see it as an option

I'm just using it to check out how much better the girls are worldwide; I'm from a large American city too, which is funny. it's not.even.close.

A few things since I usually run the Tinder auto swiper all day long...

1) I have hid my location but girls seems to still seem able too see my distance away which affects the reply rate if a girl thinks your not around or a visiting tourist.

2) There seems to limit per day for swipes despite the fact I have the paid premium version as the phone app and auto swiper always not be working at the end of day but it must go through 10,000 swipes per day or more since I always leave it on.

3) Have routine ready to figure where a chick lives since your forced to changes cites or locations 3-4 times a day since the auto swiper runs of of targets.

Post: #5875

If I could have one wish come true, it would be for online dating to be abolished.

Instead of "competing" with the 500+ guys/week who are messaging the women through Failbook/Instagram/Snapchat/Tinder/OKC/POFarts/Tinder that I approach IRL, I would be "competing" with 0 guys/week, since virtually no other man actually does cold approach pick-up. I'd have to think my date/number rate rate would quadruple.

And while, yes, I've done a bit of online dating over the last 6 weeks, cold approach is something I do 7 days/week and that's always been my primary focus. The only reason I even started doing online dating is b/c LA is a veritable pussy purgatory, so I was essentially left with no choice.