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Ringo · 2017-03-07 15:51:00 · #5902
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Eugenics · 2017-03-07 16:18:00 · #5903
I bet dude is killin it
Mayweather · 2017-03-07 17:07:00 · #5904
That dude with the bullseye sequence for his pics is an example of someone who gets it's. That little giggle she has as she swipes through the story those pics tell is much better than the hit or miss shirtless selfie. He just said 1000 things to her without ever meeting her.
Kid Twist · 2017-03-07 23:12:00 · #5905
(03-07-2017 06:45 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  A 19yo 7 is worth more than a 28yo 8-9 in my book.

A lot of good nuggets in that post but I came to this realization as well recently. I'm not sure I would put it that way (a rating should be a rating), but we nevertheless agree. I think it's the biological component of youth and psychological effect that being with a younger woman that is so outstanding or attraction producing.
kirdiesel · 2017-03-08 07:10:00 · #5906
(03-07-2017 05:07 PM)Mayweather Wrote:  That dude with the bullseye sequence for his pics is an example of someone who gets it's. That little giggle she has as she swipes through the story those pics tell is much better than the hit or miss shirtless selfie. He just said 1000 things to her without ever meeting her.

Yeah he dropped some serious fire right there.

Easy conversation starter and she will build herself a picture in her head of how she thinks you are and you all gotta do is follow through.
ksbms · 2017-03-08 08:36:00 · #5907
Now officially Tinder Select for the chosen few:

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/...17561.html
Thrill Jackson · 2017-03-08 12:47:00 · #5908
^ Boy I can't wait till we crack down on that shit.
Thrill Jackson · 2017-03-08 13:02:00 · #5909
(03-07-2017 11:12 PM)Kid Twist Wrote:  
(03-07-2017 06:45 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  A 19yo 7 is worth more than a 28yo 8-9 in my book.

A lot of good nuggets in that post but I came to this realization as well recently. I'm not sure I would put it that way (a rating should be a rating), but we nevertheless agree. I think it's the biological component of youth and psychological effect that being with a younger woman that is so outstanding or attraction producing.

I agree. A 19 year old I wouldn't give the time of day when I was 19 (about to 23) is now a 7.5 in my book. I just want to tear that young pussy up!
Thrill Jackson · 2017-03-08 13:03:00 · #5910
(03-08-2017 01:02 PM)Thrill Jackson Wrote:  
(03-07-2017 11:12 PM)Kid Twist Wrote:  
(03-07-2017 06:45 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  A 19yo 7 is worth more than a 28yo 8-9 in my book.

A lot of good nuggets in that post but I came to this realization as well recently. I'm not sure I would put it that way (a rating should be a rating), but we nevertheless agree. I think it's the biological component of youth and psychological effect that being with a younger woman that is so outstanding or attraction producing.

I agree. A 19 year old I wouldn't give the time of day when I was 19 (about to 23) is now a 7.5 in my book. I just want to tear that young pussy up!
StackGsMan · 2017-03-13 00:54:00 · #5911
So I've come to the conclusion that tinder is best used with minimal effort. Every time I've gone out with a tinder chick it has been awkward AF and it's overwhelmingly a waste of time. I've come to the fuckboi conclusion of just straight up asking for a hookup, and if sex is on the table then moving forward. Maybe my dating game is weak though, or else I'd be getting better results.

Thoughts?

I'm curious if anyone else is using that approach and how your results are.
Palo_alto · 2017-03-13 04:41:00 · #5912
(03-13-2017 12:54 AM)StackGsMan Wrote:  So I've come to the conclusion that tinder is best used with minimal effort. Every time I've gone out with a tinder chick it has been awkward AF and it's overwhelmingly a waste of time. I've come to the fuckboi conclusion of just straight up asking for a hookup, and if sex is on the table then moving forward. Maybe my dating game is weak though, or else I'd be getting better results.

Thoughts?

I'm curious if anyone else is using that approach and how your results are.

If the date is awkward AF every time, then your game is weak.

I use tinder dates to have fun, she is just part of it.
Zelcorpion · 2017-03-13 05:37:00 · #5913
(03-08-2017 08:36 AM)ksbms Wrote:  Now officially Tinder Select for the chosen few:

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/...17561.html

Anyone on Tinder Select?
[email protected] /* */ · 2017-03-13 08:26:00 · #5914
(03-13-2017 12:54 AM)StackGsMan Wrote:  So I've come to the conclusion that tinder is best used with minimal effort. Every time I've gone out with a tinder chick it has been awkward AF and it's overwhelmingly a waste of time. I've come to the fuckboi conclusion of just straight up asking for a hookup, and if sex is on the table then moving forward. Maybe my dating game is weak though, or else I'd be getting better results.

Thoughts?

I'm curious if anyone else is using that approach and how your results are.

Yeah I'm going to agree with Palo_alto. Your game is weak man. One or two awkward dates is pushing it, but if you're having awkward dates everytime...something is wrong with your frame.

ALL girls on Tinder are DTF. So sex is always on the table. It's up to you to unlock her panties.
calidude · 2017-03-13 08:46:00 · #5915
I've noticed if I try to ask a girl out after only a couple messages of back and forth these girls usually don't end up responding back. I guessing it's because I'm in college, so the girls are young and you need to build up a bunch of comfort before asking them out,or maybe they zero intentions of actually meeting in person.

Have any of you guys had success with sending out restart messages to girls who stopped responding but haven't unmatched? I thinking of either saying "How was your weekend?" or "Damn, xxx you're just going to leave me hanging like that smh".
astro · 2017-03-13 08:50:00 · #5916
Awkward? It's you!

I am 35 and closed on a 25 year old last night. Straight up slaying off Tinder, but mostly average girls (but younger!). I usually open with a slight tease about a photo or their profile - something to bait a response. Then I banter, bait them in to asking me questions, then tell them I have decided I like them and we are to get drinks (get #). I then hit them up a few days later ("whoa! You won't believe what just happened to me... <story>")

I think the biggest thing I have learned is to strike while it is hot, meaning once you get a convo going do not stop until you get the number. The convos that have been back and forth over a periods of days (vs minutes) are always weak prospects.
astro · 2017-03-13 08:54:00 · #5917
Calidude: I restart all of them until the last 2 messages are from myself and then leave it hanging. I do this especially when I am in the city where I am, such as "such a nice day, in DC enjoying some drinks. What are you up to?"

Small amount of effort and I have gotten them to come out.
ksbms · 2017-03-13 09:13:00 · #5918
"However, none of this means that the app is tailored to men, or somehow exploitative, because women are interested in casual sex, too, aren’t they? Actually, I believe that women hold all the Tinder-power because they have so many matches, and most men don’t. My female friends have hundreds of matches and so many unanswered messages, whereas I rarely receive anything, and neither do my mates. Our phones lie fallow, with neither chirrup nor ping. It’s lonely, like one of those tragic restaurants that are always empty."

"[...] she explained that Tinder is very reassuring when you’ve just left a relationship, because you realise that there are thousands of other people out there, so much choice, so much opportunity to meet strangers outside your social circles. She also told me that it is frivolous, entertaining, and you can tease lascivious men in the messages, if you like. I’ve observed this, it’s not at all uncommon; phones are passed around groups of young women (sometimes men) at the pub, and absurd messages are sent to strangers for a laugh, and it’s cruel and also highly amusing."

From: Is Tinder really creating a ‘dating apocalypse’?.

"Take former Tinder user Taylor Costello, 24, who says that the dating app made her feel better about herself after men swiped right and showered her with compliments."

“I’ve always been confident, but when you use this tool and get 50 people wanting to see you, it can definitely be a confidence boost,” says Costello, a bartender who lives in Hell’s Kitchen and ended up finding a boyfriend through the app."

From: Tinder is destroying men's self-esteem

I still am ahead of my first Tinder hook-up despite having swiped yes some 10k girls. So it this a paradise for a chosen few? What is the real proportion of all men who are as successful as some RVF posters, whore are banging a new Tinderella every week or so? I'm a white male with a very good physique, advanced degree from a top university, reasonable face to boot and decent understanding of text game and sexual dynamics. I get matches with hotties regularly, chats going to and fro but that's about it. Yet, I don't get anywhere with 6s and up past a conversation and very rarely getting the girls' numbers.
[email protected] /* */ · 2017-03-13 09:19:00 · #5919
(03-13-2017 08:46 AM)calidude Wrote:  I've noticed if I try to ask a girl out after only a couple messages of back and forth these girls usually don't end up responding back. I guessing it's because I'm in college, so the girls are young and you need to build up a bunch of comfort before asking them out,or maybe they zero intentions of actually meeting in person.

Have any of you guys had success with sending out restart messages to girls who stopped responding but haven't unmatched? I thinking of either saying "How was your weekend?" or "Damn, xxx you're just going to leave me hanging like that smh".

Tinder is a numbers game. Let's say you match and message with 50 girls. 30 of those reply back to your message (unless they message first, which is rare). 15 of those will keep the conversation going. 8 of those will give you their phone number. 4 of those will actually meet you soon for a date/meet up. 1 of those will actually go home with you and bang you after your first meeting.

Personally I don't do restart messages if the conversation has died. I move on. But if you do, definitely go with the "How was your weekend?" or some other generic restarter. DO NOT ask her why she isn't responding or that she is leaving you hanging. This makes you look thirsty and desperate.
Zelcorpion · 2017-03-13 09:43:00 · #5920
(03-13-2017 09:13 AM)ksbms Wrote:  "However, none of this means that the app is tailored to men, or somehow exploitative, because women are interested in casual sex, too, aren’t they? Actually, I believe that women hold all the Tinder-power because they have so many matches, and most men don’t. My female friends have hundreds of matches and so many unanswered messages, whereas I rarely receive anything, and neither do my mates. Our phones lie fallow, with neither chirrup nor ping. It’s lonely, like one of those tragic restaurants that are always empty."

"[...] she explained that Tinder is very reassuring when you’ve just left a relationship, because you realise that there are thousands of other people out there, so much choice, so much opportunity to meet strangers outside your social circles. She also told me that it is frivolous, entertaining, and you can tease lascivious men in the messages, if you like. I’ve observed this, it’s not at all uncommon; phones are passed around groups of young women (sometimes men) at the pub, and absurd messages are sent to strangers for a laugh, and it’s cruel and also highly amusing."

From: Is Tinder really creating a ‘dating apocalypse’?.

I still am ahead of my first Tinder hook-up despite having swiped yes some 10k girls. So it this a paradise for a chosen few? What is the real proportion of all men who are as successful as some RVF posters, whore are banging a new Tinderella every week or so? I'm a white male with a very good physique, advanced degree from a top university, reasonable face to boot and decent understanding of text game and sexual dynamics. I get matches with hotties regularly, chats going to and fro but that's about it. Yet, I don't get anywhere with 6s and up past a conversation and very rarely getting the girls' numbers.

Even for the above-average man with a 7 face and superior Game and body - it is a downhill battle. There are a few good-looking pro-PUAs like Steve Jabba who are 6"4, ripped and good-looking in real life who barely had a ping on Tinder. Steve later moved to sugardaddy.com and other such sites to twist those girls around for no-money-down-bangs. You can game those chicks easier than you can game Tinder girls. In fact there are some men who have hit on the same Tinder girl before with zero success and then banged the very same chick via seekingarrangement. The difference was that the same bitchy girl was sweet and welcoming when coming over the sugar-dating-site.

https://delicioustacos.com/2017/03/12/another-date/

Here Delicious Tacos with a recent Tinder date in LA - he is a ripped 6"2 guy with massive text-game, but living in very tough LA dating market.

His date with a fat Guatemalan did not result even in a bang while he is multiple SMV levels above her.

My best friend is 6'3 and has a close to model-looks face of 8-9. He has massive Game and is dominant in real life. He recently moved to Poland and was testing out Tinder. After spending hours swiping and texting he got one date with a hot 19yo, who ultimately refused him and got catfished by an ugly fattie (fat by EE-standards - alright by American ones). In contrast his number close ratio if he approaches girls in real life is roughly 30-40% - the main reason why they refuse is because so many have boyfriends here and some do it even with regret in their voices.





Tinder experiment - and even that gender disparity is bullshit - that guy is basically the top of the top of the top.

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The interest-distribution among men is hyperbolic. If that guy gets 269 out of 1000 matches, then a man 1 step below them like my almost model-looks buddy would get 40.
The next level below him gets roughly 10 matches - which is still quite good-looking by the way. Next is the bangability of those girls - the 269/1000 top guy can count on a massive bang-ratio, while even the guy below him has to discard probably 80% of his matches as time-wasters who just want to feel good about them.

And honestly - the stats may even be worse than that.

Waste of time unless for statistical reasons or whenever you are in an area where your SMV is much higher.
Eugenics · 2017-03-13 10:25:00 · #5921
(03-13-2017 12:54 AM)StackGsMan Wrote:  So I've come to the conclusion that tinder is best used with minimal effort. Every time I've gone out with a tinder chick it has been awkward AF and it's overwhelmingly a waste of time. I've come to the fuckboi conclusion of just straight up asking for a hookup, and if sex is on the table then moving forward. Maybe my dating game is weak though, or else I'd be getting better results.

Thoughts?

I'm curious if anyone else is using that approach and how your results are.


You still have to have some game and I think it only works if you're 2+ points above your match. You'll see numerous examples online of guys just being like "uh...sit on my face?" and being responded to positively. That's not for us around average dudes unless you are comfortable fucking 2+ points below you.

I've had some pretty good success just using some funny lines and building comfort from there. It's also good to remember when a girl swipes right on your she is effectively saying "WB". That's why Tinder is so easy. You just gonna walk the girl from point A to point B.

I've only had 1 awkward tinder date and it's just because my stupid ass actually believed the girl when she said something along the lines of "I don't even do hookups". So i tried to treat it like a regular date...don't do that. Tinder girls not only do not deserve it, it's not even what they want. They want to have a great short date where they feel comfortable and then have sex "just happen" on your couch and after you nut all over their face.

Keep in mind that striking while the iron is hot is pretty imperative here. A girl that's trying to get some strange tinder dick is probably ovulating or really horny in general.
Heart Break Kid · 2017-03-13 10:39:00 · #5922
(03-13-2017 10:25 AM)Eugenics Wrote:  
(03-13-2017 12:54 AM)StackGsMan Wrote:  So I've come to the conclusion that tinder is best used with minimal effort. Every time I've gone out with a tinder chick it has been awkward AF and it's overwhelmingly a waste of time. I've come to the fuckboi conclusion of just straight up asking for a hookup, and if sex is on the table then moving forward. Maybe my dating game is weak though, or else I'd be getting better results.

Thoughts?

I'm curious if anyone else is using that approach and how your results are.


You still have to have some game and I think it only works if you're 2+ points above your match. You'll see numerous examples online of guys just being like "uh...sit on my face?" and being responded to positively. That's not for us around average dudes unless you are comfortable fucking 2+ points below you.

I've had some pretty good success just using some funny lines and building comfort from there. It's also good to remember when a girl swipes right on your she is effectively saying "WB". That's why Tinder is so easy. You just gonna walk the girl from point A to point B.

I've only had 1 awkward tinder date and it's just because my stupid ass actually believed the girl when she said something along the lines of "I don't even do hookups". So i tried to treat it like a regular date...don't do that. Tinder girls not only do not deserve it, it's not even what they want. They want to have a great short date where they feel comfortable and then have sex "just happen" on your couch and after you nut all over their face.

Keep in mind that striking while the iron is hot is pretty imperative here. A girl that's trying to get some strange tinder dick is probably ovulating or really horny in general.


What do you do differently between a tinder date and a traditional date?
Eugenics · 2017-03-13 10:58:00 · #5923
Just having the knowledge that the girl finds me attractive and would have sex with me makes me treat it differently. Maybe I should be treating all dates like this but with a tinder date I employ sexual undertones from minute one and it doesn't stop until I bust. I also don't take it very seriously or try to show off my value a whole lot, usually with lower investment than typical dates.

If possible I try to get them direct to my house but there's always the implication that we'll be going there later because Tinder; sometimes I even make it a joke like "If you're not sketch maybe I'll show you where I live later" or something similar. Get them familiar with the idea of coming back to my pad. Once they're back to the house it's easy street from there.

I've been experimenting with reverse/serial killer lines with some decent success for how creepy it sounds on paper. I notice if a girl is turned on enough and attracted enough to come direct to your house on a first meeting I almost always get asked "[well blah blah blah girl shit] you're not a serial killer are you". I started flipping the script on them. "If you promise not to wait until I fall asleep and harvest my organs I'll give you my address", "Serial killer? Are you serious? I only do that on weekends, it's Thursday", "axe murderer? That's way too messy". I just use that to combat the LMR from girls basically deciding that when they get to my pad sex will happen.

Getting a girl to come directly to your house from tinder isn't that high difficulty if your game is tight, I don't like "dates" I'd rather skip that whole mess

A date with a girl I like I will take a bit more seriously and try to impress her, maybe I shouldn't be doing that.
StackGsMan · 2017-03-13 12:04:00 · #5924
(03-13-2017 10:58 AM)Eugenics Wrote:  Just having the knowledge that the girl finds me attractive and would have sex with me makes me treat it differently. Maybe I should be treating all dates like this but with a tinder date I employ sexual undertones from minute one and it doesn't stop until I bust. I also don't take it very seriously or try to show off my value a whole lot, usually with lower investment than typical dates.

If possible I try to get them direct to my house but there's always the implication that we'll be going there later because Tinder; sometimes I even make it a joke like "If you're not sketch maybe I'll show you where I live later" or something similar. Get them familiar with the idea of coming back to my pad. Once they're back to the house it's easy street from there.

I've been experimenting with reverse/serial killer lines with some decent success for how creepy it sounds on paper. I notice if a girl is turned on enough and attracted enough to come direct to your house on a first meeting I almost always get asked "[well blah blah blah girl shit] you're not a serial killer are you". I started flipping the script on them. "If you promise not to wait until I fall asleep and harvest my organs I'll give you my address", "Serial killer? Are you serious? I only do that on weekends, it's Thursday", "axe murderer? That's way too messy". I just use that to combat the LMR from girls basically deciding that when they get to my pad sex will happen.

Getting a girl to come directly to your house from tinder isn't that high difficulty if your game is tight, I don't like "dates" I'd rather skip that whole mess

A date with a girl I like I will take a bit more seriously and try to impress her, maybe I shouldn't be doing that.

I think this is what I was looking for.

That being said, I think what some of you guys have stated is the truth as well, I'm the reason some of these dates are awkward and my game is weak. I'm presenting these girls with a major catfish dilemma. I was at least 60 lbs lighter in my pics than I am right now, so I think they show up and are like, "wtf". Also, I don't have my own place so I keep trying to push to either go to their place or go to a hotel, which is much harder to make happen. Plus I think my dating game is kind of weak, I'm much better at cold approaching and making something happen from that.

That being said, and notice that I agreed, I still think girls that I've met on tinder have been at least slightly more weird than those I meet in person.
Kid Twist · 2017-03-13 13:27:00 · #5925
Eugenics is confirming all I've found out about this crap over the last 2 years, sparingly using it because there are so many <5/10s that are around or barely even match you. It is absolutely the case that a 7-8 dude can have major scarcity issues on there. Again, no need to worry, just be aware that's how it is.

Quote: In fact there are some men who have hit on the same Tinder girl before with zero success and then banged the very same chick via seekingarrangement.

This is the most amusing thing in the world because I can confirm this, it makes absolutely no logical sense on its face until you dig a little deeper.

What doesn't tinder capture on the male side of things? Arguably the most important part of the male persona --- charm, status, confidence, etc. Something like SA, whether true or false, is a preselection. You can't make that up on Tinder, no matter how hard you try with pics or bio lines. What's more, the latter they want to believe, and the former (tinder) they still probably doubt (picture, bio, status wise). That Jared idiot above probably has the greatest profile of all time, and he still just does ok for his attractiveness, I'm guessing.

We actually should predict this asinine thinking with women though, because it is ultimately resource seeking as the main end, which is BY FAR the most important and can be leveraged greater than good looks (which is temporal and hormonally dictated, and they are women, not dudes thinking about banging every day). Knowing on average how [debased western women] think or act, it actually is the obvious answer. If you showed them that they denied a tinder dude and then banged the exact same dude on sugardaddy dot com or whatever, they would look at you with a stupefied face when you inquired as to how dumb that is from an outside observer's perspective. LOL
Player_1337 · 2017-03-13 13:53:00 · #5926
(03-13-2017 10:58 AM)Eugenics Wrote:  If possible I try to get them direct to my house but there's always the implication that we'll be going there later because Tinder; sometimes I even make it a joke like "If you're not sketch maybe I'll show you where I live later" or something similar. Get them familiar with the idea of coming back to my pad. Once they're back to the house it's easy street from there.

I've been experimenting with reverse/serial killer lines with some decent success for how creepy it sounds on paper. I notice if a girl is turned on enough and attracted enough to come direct to your house on a first meeting I almost always get asked "[well blah blah blah girl shit] you're not a serial killer are you". I started flipping the script on them. "If you promise not to wait until I fall asleep and harvest my organs I'll give you my address", "Serial killer? Are you serious? I only do that on weekends, it's Thursday", "axe murderer? That's way too messy". I just use that to combat the LMR from girls basically deciding that when they get to my pad sex will happen.

Getting a girl to come directly to your house from tinder isn't that high difficulty if your game is tight, I don't like "dates" I'd rather skip that whole mess

I'm a big fan of this strategy. Has worked well for me both online and in person. Gets the girls laughing, and sets up a fun frame that effectively flips the script.
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