I put a 4 hour ceiling on that texting rule. Usually only text between 11am-10pm.

I think the biggest thing is to not reply right away and look like you're needy or have no life. If a girl takes 2 days to respond it's usually a bad sign anyway.

I'm still working on my text game, trying to find a balance between being an interesting & busy guy and striking while the iron is hot.

If the text convo gets sexual and is leading in the direction of a meetup with sexual undertones I don't always follow that rule. Not sure if that's good or not.

Things going smooth with very hot bumble blonde. Chicks of this caliber are usually unresponsive, shit test or go radio silent after I push for meet (might be the fact I move very fast online- it's advantageous and I don't have the patience for texting limbo bs). Although our responses have been staggered (many hours apart) she hasn't deployed any shit tests. She seems cool with meeting tonight for drinks- just need to send venue. Should I shock her and not respond until tomorrow, or am I overthinking it and should just move forward with tonight? (ps. I don't think the venue I want to go to near my place even serves warm cider and rum- might be good bait to bounce to my pad).

Her: Hey how's your snow day?
Me: craving a warm alcoholic beverage
Her: Agreed
Me: can you handle a hot toddy or warm cider with rum
Her: Warm cider with rum sounds really good
Me: join me for some
Her: When?
Me: Tuesday night
Her: Where at

I ask a girl out (after a few sentences bantering). She says: "convince me".

Whats a good one?

^^
Hit her with "nah…to much work"

She is waisting your time

Here's a funny one with a stroke of terrible luck. This was the initial texts from earlier in the week:

Quote:- Mild to moderate lead with the girl with whom I share mutual contacts. I tried to incorporate the idea of "social capital" from RSD Todd and basically chatted with her a bit over the text before going for the kill. I think this is the play for weary girls. She shit tested me and said: "hahah I'll see. I don't go out easily with people"

I said "Ha! A misanthrope." and told her I have a busy week coming up but I'll message her end of the week and see where she's at. Best play I've done with texting. I'm a terrible texter but this seemed to diffuse her by withdrawing a bit back.

She said: "LOL slightly. Ya sure why not" and asked me why I'm busy. WE exchanged a few more texts and asked if I had snapchat. I said I don't have it so "we'll have to connect the good old fashioned way of texting lol."

She said that's fine. I told her tty so and good night.

I think this is important. Unless the girl is super eager, maybe the best way is to try to connect just a tad to disarm her, give her good feelings that you're not crazy and then ask for a meet without being too needy.

The back story is that it turns out she works with one of my close friends.

So a day after our interaction/texting, I was in a different city at a mall getting some food after class. My friend talked to her and it turns out she saw me hitting on a girl at the mall! Just terrible luck. I texted her today:

Me: Well that exam is over and done with. How was your week?

Her: Just got off work.

I saw you at (the mall) hitting on another girl too LOOOOOOL

Me: Ah ya. (my friend) told me lol. I'd say I'm old fashioned and prefer to try to meet someone in person rather than tinder.

Her: LOOOLLL

Me: That's a pretty awesome coincidence. I went to chiptole after class and I thought I saw you too.

Her: LOL where did you see me

Me: I think right after I talked to that girl briefly and was heading to my car

I thought it was you but it was too much of a coincidence. Maybe the gods are saying we should go for coffee

Her: hahahah meh. HOw was your exam

Me: It went well. Ppl were freaking out.

Her: nice nice!

Me: You were wearing black pants right?

Her: ya your'e observant

me: wow that's awesome. I'm basically like batman. I'm cracking up right now.


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A few questions:

1. Was my response okay? I tried not to be defensive or have justify myself too much and tried to laugh it off.

2. She didn't seem warm when I said it's a sign from the gods that we should meet for a coffee. After my last message, she hasn't replied yet. Restart later or just give up?

Me: going to brunch and beach tomorrow, come join

Her: I'll think about it

Me:??

(03-25-2017 12:38 AM)Exult Wrote:  Me: going to brunch and beach tomorrow, come join

Her: I'll think about it

Me:??

I would absolutely not respond.

Your work is done. You told her what you wanted. She turned you down. That's it. For now.

Next steps would depend on the context. At a minimum, if I really liked her and she had shown some prior investment, I would wait a week before hitting her up again. Alternatively, if she is uninvested, as this response usually indicates, I would wait a minimum of a couple weeks, soft next her, or perhaps even next her outright if I wasn't feeling it and she hit me wrong.

19 year old. I sexualized a bit and she said she liked to be spanked. This was the second time I was trying to set a date.
   

Is it dead or should I text her something like "Wear something classy"?

^^^^^^^

You went to fast, slow down , what you'll need to do is just wait a couple of days and hit her back with a normal conversation

You gotta warm her up then have her come over

Lime, I'd go with:

8=====D

I posted this on the Approach thread:

There is this girl in the building next to mine. I only ever see her when she is walking her dog and i'm walking mine or passing by, usually coming back from or going to the gym. Around 2 years ago i had the opportunity to approach her and i didn't because i was in a hurry, which caused her to be bitter toward me because it felt like i wasn't interested. Every time i saw her she would be extra cold and formal. I wanted to approach her, but her coldness stopped me.

For some reason, i saw her less and less and less over time. I even thought she moved somewhere else. However, though, tonight i was coming back from the gym and i saw her for the first time this year. It was only me and her on this sidewalk and we were going in the same direction. When i realized that it was her, i decided to approach her there. i gwot an extra motivation when i saw that she stopped right at the spot when i would turn to reach my building, instead of following the sidewalk and going in a direction where i wouldn't bump into her.

For some reason though, maybe because i didn't think the approach through in the 10 seconds i had to make up my mind, maybe because i'm too much of a beginner, i went straight for the phone number. I said "hey, hi, i just wanted to say that i find you very cute, can i get your number?"

She said yes to me and gave me her number but, of course, going straight for the phone number is an ultimatum on a girl and it creates an uncomfortable situation. We still vibed a little bit and exchanged some laughs, etc. The chemistry between us is great, clearly.

Still though, when i was leaving i noticed that she was a bit too far away from me, more than normal, and here in Brazil men to women say goodbye with a kiss on the cheek usually, or even a one-arm hug. She was too nervous to do that so i didn't force anything.

When i came back to my apartment i texted her almost right away, after some 5 minutes. I just opened with a "hey Smile", followed with "now you got my number too" and talked a little bit.

The situation was still uncomfortable so i told her i was busy (which i truly was) and that we would talk later, hoping that tomorrow things will be more comfortable.

I digged myself into a hole and now i have to crawl out of it. Instead of talking to her right there and making the relationship more solid, specially given that she was walking her dog, i created this fucked up, uncomfortable situation where i will have to deal with flakyness and shit tests.

Girl rate: 8
Age: 18 to 21, max. I'm 24.
Chemistry: very good and it seems that we have a lot in common.
Bonus: She lives in the building right next to mine and i feel that i'm too valuable for her to give me up easily.
Setback: I went straight for the number because i didn't think it through, because i'm a beginner in game and because we had already seen each other a few times and i knew about her attraction to me. Now i will have to deal with shit tests and flakyness.

Any tips?

I know she is a horseback rider so i'm thinking on starting with this later but if i "spend" this "card" i may have no "last resource topic" later.

@ duedue

Did she respond to your last text?

No and I didn't go with the "wear something classy". Maybe I do something llike what Sketness suggested, Sending something like a nice guy greeting tomorrow?

Sounds like she was/possibly DTF.

Might have to get her out to drinks first now that she's openly declared she won't meet at your house; which she might (would) have with a bit more groundwork.

You should have given her some glimpse of plausible deniability, even though it appears sex was definitely on the menu.

Even if you both know you're definitely fucking, sooth her hampster, give her an out. Having a social contract to fuck someone wigs girls out, they don't want that cuz they don't know what they want. Maybe she'll feel gross and slutty and unsexy two minutes after she gets there (legit concern in her own mind), maybe she'll start her period early, maybe she won't like the shape of your face. Etc etc. All stupid meaningless shit that holds relevance in her mind, so she needs seemingly valid outs.

Even tho we know when she steps into your house it's basically over, she's fucking you.

I'd say drinks, sexual tension, bounce to your house with plausible deniability like more drinks (def fucking), a movie (almost def fucking) showing her your music/whatever collection (prob fucking), and you get the idea.

Give her more outs/deniability based on how hot or cold she is. You got this.

Thanks man. My last message was to meet at a bar/restaurant so I basically lost my frame. Don't know whether to send another message now or wait till next week. Also whether use a sexualized gambit (last one was a spanking gif) or something "nice".

General rule of thumb is that you you wait two units of time of time for every three that she'd have to wait to get your response. There other ways organize our phone though. Don't just have one girl that you are talking to. Maintain abundance and keep several options open at any given time. If she falls to the bottom of your text messages, that's where she wants to be. Just keep texting new girls and maybe send her a Hail Mary sometime in the future. If you give her one, perhaps she will send you another text. If she sends two texts, than you got your 2/3 ratio coming back.

Often, you need to give girls time to correct their shit test texts and the best response is just silence so that they know that you know what's up. If she's interested in you, she will send a second, "corrective" text to make up for her lack of response from the first. If she acknowledge that she was being a flake, maybe you Can waive the rule of thumb a little but you still don't want to knee jerk respond back to her immediately. There's a section on texting in my book where I discuss text timing and reciprocation in more detail.

Any advice on this situation?

https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-14130...pid1539019

Got a girls number yesterday on a nightclub. Asked her to go out tomorrow and she told me that she just studies in the city and is going back to her parent's house for the weekend, and she would only have time on next Wed (still 7 more days to go). Should I still keep texting her until there? I am feeling that if I do and she flakes would be a huge waste of time, but if I don't, she may lose interest until then.

(03-29-2017 06:49 PM)Libertas Wrote:  Any advice on this situation?

https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-14130...pid1539019

Long game. Check out Krauser's posts on his blog regarding long game. In this situation not that difficult, a few weeks' time only.

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Thoughts?

18 yo (36y age diff). Presents as total sub looking for older dom. Have not (yet) had success under mid-twenties and have likely been blowing out due to being too direct.

   
   

^^^^

Yep you came on to strong.Usually with anyone under 25 you'll have to warm them up or get them out in person if you can, before going so direct.

Try to utilize the "let's hangout" mentality over the "you know you want it" mentality. That might work better for the demographic you're targeting

(04-05-2017 01:20 PM)Sketness Wrote:  ^^^^

Yep you came on to strong.Usually with anyone under 25 you'll have to warm them up or get them out in person if you can, before going so direct.

Try to utilize the "let's hangout" mentality over the "you know you want it" mentality. That might work better for the demographic you're targeting

She's not dead. What's the next move?

Hit her up to hangout and then take it from there

Tinder girl, been talking for a few days (small talk) and made her laugh alot...

So then I asked her if she wanted to meet for drinks later this week and she answered :
"Hey (my name), yea possibly, I've a lot of study to do so it just kinda depends on that"

April is the month for final exams so I kinda understand her reply but still don't know what to say to that.