(02-19-2017 05:39 AM)kirdiesel Wrote:  I fought in NYC night game for over a decade... FUCK. THAT. SHIT.

I can't speak about how it works when you are targeting black or latina girls (which you seem to be targeting) but forget decent level white chicks.

Unless you are a club promoter, real tight with a promoter or running bottle game night game is hard as all hell.

We did a podcast with a black guy from NYC who loves NYC. However, he set a personal challenge and went out 70 nights in a row. I am not saying you have to do that but sometimes you have to really mix up your venues and become known so that you can start to pluck fruit that is not in your immediate line of sight. NYC is such a big and vibrant place that it seems hard to imagine that it can be that tough. However, I am not from there and if I do go there, I would probably target the black and afro latina crowd unless the others (asians, whites and misc) fell right into my lap. This means my experience may still not coincide with yours.

I personally know of guys from Toronto who went to NYC and almost moved there on the basis of how well they ate there.

Is it harder to game chicks when your solo?

When I got out in the past and in the future I'll likely be solo most of the time . Instead of bitching about it I'd rather work on gaming chicks without a wingman or group.

It depends on what you want, and what you do about getting it in NYC. If you want models and bottles without the investment bank money - you have to do something similar to distant light.

If it's cute hipsters, NYU students, boriquas, fresh off the boat chicks - there are angles.

Real rap I've met actual fashion models by knowing people in that business. (They look weird in person)

NYC is the ultimate for social circle game. Finding, infiltrating, growing, starting,

Honestly it's not much of a weekend bang type town, like say Vegas. In my experience, L.A.was the same. You needed to put down roots in order to get what you wanted.

WIA

@Shotgun

What are your concerns about going out dolo?

I find it to be easier and more effective

WIA

My concern for the moment is just not coming off as a creep because I'm there solo. It felt like that the last time I stepped out. Being in my head the whole time didn't help either. The time before that I was doing ok so maybe it's just the vibe I had.

(02-19-2017 11:46 AM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  It depends on what you want, and what you do about getting it in NYC. If you want models and bottles without the investment bank money - you have to do something similar to distant light.

If it's cute hipsters, NYU students, boriquas, fresh off the boat chicks - there are angles.

Real rap I've met actual fashion models by knowing people in that business. (They look weird in person)

NYC is the ultimate for social circle game. Finding, infiltrating, growing, starting,

Honestly it's not much of a weekend bang type town, like say Vegas. In my experience, L.A.was the same. You needed to put down roots in order to get what you wanted.

WIA

I'm happy you hold that view on social circle game & NYC. It's yielded notches for me, and I'm not out here trying to bang a new girl every day like some of the people in the wider forum. I just want to have fun and build a harem I can have fun with.

Also Distant Light's social circle strategy just sounds fun. I have a growing interest in fashion & music, and want to get more tapped into those scenes here in NYC - it'd benefit my life for reasons other than notch accumulation.

@Shotgun

Just talk to the first girl you see, regardless of if you think she's cute or not. I deal with that creep feeling every time I go out -- and what helps is talking to a person.

Went out last night and I had some good conversations with people -- nothing too deep tho. Gotta work on keeping the energy in a conversation once it gets poppin and I've gotten their attention.

One girl was telling me that she didn't like how I touched her butt. it was a group of four girls and after chatting for a while we went to dance. I opened one and just kept talking to her until the other three got bored of their phones. Chatted some more and we went to go dance. By this point I had already touched each girl in the group in some way or abother, so when we got on the dance floor, I became more agressive in my butt squeezes. The girl I opened didn't have a problem with it, but when I did it to the leader of the group, she got all fake outraged.

Three of the girls leave, the one i opened stayed behind. We danced for a bit, and i asked her to move to anotjer spot so i could talk more (music was whack by this point). she refused so we just kept dancing, eventually she left. Did not reconnect. I was trying to be more honest with my intentions like others hd mentioned in this thread, and while I didn't get any last night, it felt good to be...well, not so polite like I have to be at work.

On another note, some girl made out with me last night while her friend was dancingg on me. Felt like a king for a hot second. Then she dropped this:

"I'll fuck you if you can get me into the club next door"

How would yall have handled that? I got a bad vibe when she said that (jailbait). When she told me that, I looked at the other girl and said "and she'll join in, too, right?" I figured pushing for the threesome was the most fun option! But alas, nothing came of it.

(02-19-2017 02:27 PM)BasketBounce Wrote:  On another note, some girl made out with me last night while her friend was dancingg on me. Felt like a king for a hot second. Then she dropped this:

"I'll fuck you if you can get me into the club next door"

How would yall have handled that? I got a bad vibe when she said that (jailbait). When she told me that, I looked at the other girl and said "and she'll join in, too, right?" I figured pushing for the threesome was the most fun option! But alas, nothing came of it.

Say ok. Then ask for a BJ before trying to get her in? Was the club you were at 18+? Maybe she was 21 and over but wanted you to pay for the cover at the next place.

You could ask to see her ID to make sure.`

(02-19-2017 09:58 AM)Moma Wrote:  

(02-19-2017 05:39 AM)kirdiesel Wrote:  I fought in NYC night game for over a decade... FUCK. THAT. SHIT.

I can't speak about how it works when you are targeting black or latina girls (which you seem to be targeting) but forget decent level white chicks.

Unless you are a club promoter, real tight with a promoter or running bottle game night game is hard as all hell.

We did a podcast with a black guy from NYC who loves NYC. However, he set a personal challenge and went out 70 nights in a row. I am not saying you have to do that but sometimes you have to really mix up your venues and become known so that you can start to pluck fruit that is not in your immediate line of sight. NYC is such a big and vibrant place that it seems hard to imagine that it can be that tough. However, I am not from there and if I do go there, I would probably target the black and afro latina crowd unless the others (asians, whites and misc) fell right into my lap. This means my experience may still not coincide with yours.

I am guessing everyone missed that part about me targeting WHITE CHICKS.

If you are targeting afro, african, latinas or anything in that area you are going to have a much better response. Decent white chicks aren't fucking around with black dudes like that in NYC.... Best target for white chicks in NYC are the European girls and maybe the hipster Brooklyn/village girls...

Excelsior is moving to NYC soon and he seems to target the same girls as me and im VERY CURIOUS to see his results.

I gamed in NYC since I was 19 years old and left when I was 29... I know what im talking about.

I would not have moved to Germany if I was cleaning up out there in my market.

****EDIT and quick story***** . I had a friend from high school who is 1st generation Nigerian... We went to high school together and both dated white girls exclusively.... We both went separate ways over a a situation but I looked him on Facebook years later and guess what........ He became a Promoter just like I did to get an edge out there in the field.... Its not a coincidence fellas.

(02-19-2017 12:55 PM)ShotgunUppercuts Wrote:  My concern for the moment is just not coming off as a creep because I'm there solo. It felt like that the last time I stepped out. Being in my head the whole time didn't help either. The time before that I was doing ok so maybe it's just the vibe I had.

Girls out desperately want to talk with a a guy that can simulate and engage them in a fun way. All you gotta do is be that guy.

Also I think I ran into a forum member on friday at the domain. I was pretty blitzed and Im not even sure if I was making sense. If you see this shoot me a pm

(02-19-2017 02:51 PM)kirdiesel Wrote:  

(02-19-2017 09:58 AM)Moma Wrote:  

(02-19-2017 05:39 AM)kirdiesel Wrote:  I fought in NYC night game for over a decade... FUCK. THAT. SHIT.

I can't speak about how it works when you are targeting black or latina girls (which you seem to be targeting) but forget decent level white chicks.

Unless you are a club promoter, real tight with a promoter or running bottle game night game is hard as all hell.

We did a podcast with a black guy from NYC who loves NYC. However, he set a personal challenge and went out 70 nights in a row. I am not saying you have to do that but sometimes you have to really mix up your venues and become known so that you can start to pluck fruit that is not in your immediate line of sight. NYC is such a big and vibrant place that it seems hard to imagine that it can be that tough. However, I am not from there and if I do go there, I would probably target the black and afro latina crowd unless the others (asians, whites and misc) fell right into my lap. This means my experience may still not coincide with yours.

I am guessing everyone missed that part about me targeting WHITE CHICKS.

If you are targeting afro, african, latinas or anything in that area you are going to have a much better response. Decent white chicks aren't fucking around with black dudes like that in NYC.... Best target for white chicks in NYC are the European girls and maybe the hipster Brooklyn/village girls...

Excelsior is moving to NYC soon and he seems to target the same girls as me and im VERY CURIOUS to see his results.

I gamed in NYC since I was 19 years old and left when I was 29... I know what im talking about.

I would not have moved to Germany if I was cleaning up out there in my market.

****EDIT and quick story***** . I had a friend from high school who is 1st generation Nigerian... We went to high school together and both dated white girls exclusively.... We both went separate ways over a a situation but I looked him on Facebook years later and guess what........ He became a Promoter just like I did to get an edge out there in the field.... Its not a coincidence fellas.

My experience with NYC white girls was far different than yours.

Were you going after this type of chick?



Or this type of chick

   

^These bottom chicks are harder to get with because they basically stay in their default all white worlds. And these broads look old, so they're probably marriage minded - i.e. keep it Caucasian.

The fashion chicks above are into art and music, and it's easier to come at them at a peer/superior level.

WIA

Its been a minute but if my memory serves me right.....Fashion or FIT girls are usually found at bottle service clubs/exclusive events. Some of course in the village area. They are generally more superficial and not the easiest to talk to.

Those bottom chicks looks like typical Long Island Bitches... 10000% stay away from those.

I think Hipster girls from what I think are the black mans bread and butter out there if you want white.

Mace arent you on the ground out there??? What have you been seeing or dating?? I will be back in the summer and WILL be updating and recording what I see.

(02-19-2017 02:51 PM)kirdiesel Wrote:  I am guessing everyone missed that part about me targeting WHITE CHICKS.

The black guy that I we did an interview with, who is Distant Light, as WIA correctly said, specifically targeted white lizards. That was his primary choice. Other races had to fall into his lap for him to smash. However, as I mentioned, he put his head down and went out for 70 days straight. I am not saying that you must do that in order to get white lizards but NYC is such a big and vibrant place that it seems boggling that it too suffers from the same barriers that other cities do. I was in NYC a couple of years ago and intel provided from Archie as well as other RVF members that I met on the ground was spot on.

(02-19-2017 11:26 AM)ShotgunUppercuts Wrote:  Is it harder to game chicks when your solo?

When I got out in the past and in the future I'll likely be solo most of the time . Instead of bitching about it I'd rather work on gaming chicks without a wingman or group.

I go out almost exclusively solo where I am at. It does seem creepy but that is all in my head. I usually just tell the lizards that I was supposed to meet friends who flaked. I also tell them that I am new in town. Combine that with the flakey friends and it's enough of a story for the lizard to run with.

Which specific podcast is that? Could I get a link to it?

Story
Basically, I'm working at a Psych hospital (for two months) and a new doctor joined from Pakistan. She is one year ahead of me in training. Right from jump, she compliments me on my physique and my dress sense. We shake hands and she refuses to let go. One day, she asks for a lift and we end up having a Subway on the way to her flat. We then go to her place where she says shit like,"we can be friends." I say, "No way.I'm not friends with women I want to fuck." Says crap like,"I find you very attractive but we cannot do anything." After 30 minutes of me trying to sell the deal as, "a temporary experience of pleasure with no lasting consequences and full anonymity": we get it on.

The following evening, she wastes no time and we get busy. She's a virgin and I tell her I ain't rupturing that hymen due to the very real possibility of being beheaded. Her pussy is dripping wet. I mean....I felt my cock slipping into her vagina. It was like a venus fly trap or some shit. We do anal. Next working day and..... the bitch is rude as fuck to me.Starts crying in the office out of nowhere. I do not know how I am going to survive the next 6 weeks. Thank goodness she's off to Pakistan for two weeks and I'm off to Africa for 2 weeks.

Cliffs
-Pakistani female who came to the UK in September joins my workplace
-Bitch compliments my body and dress sense
-One day, after work, bitch "forgets" to call for a cab and asks for lift
-I go to her flat and beat back shit tests
-We get naked
-Next evening, she is straight to business and far more confident. I tell her she may be a virgin but she definitely has experience. She responds with, "of course. Where do you think I was brought up, under a rock." No, you told me Pakistan- easy mistake to make.

Issues
(1) At work, she cried out of nowhere
(2) The girl is being cold, ignoring me and shit

Lessons
(1)She admitted that she finds my skin complexion attractive. I am shocked by this. I asked if Pakistan has black guys. She says no but she has "always been a bit different". She's an Arab looking Pakistani- fair skinned. Just goes to show: you cannot assume that every member of a race won't be down for some chocolate.Isolate her from the herd and she can make her own decisions.
(2) Don't shit where you work
(3) Show attention to the women that show you attention. This was easy. A layup. I spent not one penny. No dates. No dancing.High efficiency. She found me viscerally attractive, her pussy was "wet from the moment you said you were coming over."

What do?

TDK

I've been here for a little under 3 years post college.

My white notches have come from social circle game, hell even my black & Latina notches.

Numbers I've gotten from nightgame have mostly been from Brooklyn venues. My aesthetic skews "hipster," and I'd agree that I will generally get more attention from hipster-ish chicks.

I also do not go out nowhere as much as some of the forum members here do, so I don't have a super informed impression. People seldom intermingle though in night settings here.

(02-19-2017 05:53 PM)Moma Wrote:  

(02-19-2017 02:51 PM)kirdiesel Wrote:  I am guessing everyone missed that part about me targeting WHITE CHICKS.

The black guy that I we did an interview with, who is Distant Light, as WIA correctly said, specifically targeted white lizards. That was his primary choice. Other races had to fall into his lap for him to smash. However, as I mentioned, he put his head down and went out for 70 days straight. I am not saying that you must do that in order to get white lizards but NYC is such a big and vibrant place that it seems boggling that it too suffers from the same barriers that other cities do. I was in NYC a couple of years ago and intel provided from Archie as well as other RVF members that I met on the ground was spot on.

I am gonna have to get in touch with him because I must really have been doing something wrong all those years not to have figured it out. I was grinding hard every weekend out there for years. Its not like I saw other brothers out gaming me in the clubs or in the streets either. I will be first to admit I am fucking up but this one doesn't make sense to me.

European white lizards.. Fine! I did the same....

But white American lizards? no way I need to get this data.

Where is the podcast cause I am motherfucking dumbfounded.

This one really stuck a chord with me so I dug in and found some of Distant Light's posts.

To set the stage here... I previously said there you are going to fall into 3 categories.. Either you date White european chicks, Hipster or Village chicks or you run PROMOTER GAME.. and guess what??

Distant Light was running....... wait for it.... PROMOTER GAME!

Kirill is a MASSIVE fucking party promoter and is one of his best boys.... which means chicks think HES A PROMOTER! or at least down with the clique which is good enough since he would be invited to all the afterparties.. apartments and all the other sick shit. He will easily get white chicks by association and I did as well during my promoter days.

Dont believe me?... And I quote:

""""So when we show up it's like PARTY TIME. This started to attract bottle buyers who had the money but lacked the girls and the "group vibe". It's not like I party like that once in awhile, its a weekly occurance""""

Hmm... sounds like a promoter to me.. One provides the bottles and they supply the girls that were lacking.. hmmm??"

""""ttle does anyone know were in the works of possible sex parties, we've fucked in the elegant bathrooms, fingered chicks at the table""""

At the table you say? Regular dudes have tables in NYC? also very interesting.

""""Only thing I knew is that I had connections through others for vegas. As 1oak LV, Marquee, Tao, Lavo are all run by NY based guys. So I know I'd be taken care of """"

All promoter heavy nightclubs.. I know EVERY SINGLE one of those locations and have gamed in them. How does a normal guy like that have connections to all the nightclubs?


Dont make it seem like the dude was out there grinding out all the bars and clubs AS A REGULAR DUDE and pulling ass... Ive been down all those paths in NYC and know the place backwards. Value, status and money in NYC is everything. If you are trying to cross racial barriers in NYC without it.... forget it.


WIA and guys I appreciate your input but I really feel like I know NYC since I was born and raised there and still go back.

****NYC is SHIT for black men looking for white lizards PERIOD. If you aren't a club promoter, TIGHT boys with a promoter, dating strictly Euro girls or sticking to a hipster scene (which i havent fully tested). Stay the fuck away from NYC for white lizards*****

If you are an average dude with a corporate job... not a ton of bread and want to meet white american chicks the old fashioned way in the field you are better off going somewhere else.

There arent THAT many euro chicks besides aupairs for you to get either. There are even Euro girl promoters! There a Swedish dude there who has tons of them at his tables weekly. Ive seen it myself.

Distant Light podcast will be on our blog shortly, please check back in a week or so.

He is a different brother, I have seen pics of the model chicks he dates. Top shelf to say the least, without question.

What gives places like London and NYC an edge, is the amount of tourist girls that visit every year. I lived in London and rarely dated a local girl when I was there, had one experience with a english co-worker. I would target the tourist and new girls in town demographic if I lived in NYC, even former member International Swagger spoke about his brother killing it there with the couch-surfing and Airbnb girls from out of town.

I always got the feeling with NYC, that flags would be easy but finding a loyal girlfriend might be harder.

@Darknight - good timing amigo.

Moma and I mentioned your name this week, we would love to have you back on the show.

I am not surprised by your story, I know loads of Asian girls who are down for the black man. The downside is that they do not want anyone knowing or repercussions, honour killings is real my friend.

(02-19-2017 07:18 PM)kirdiesel Wrote:  This one really stuck a chord with me so I dug in and found some of Distant Light's posts.

To set the stage here... I previously said there you are going to fall into 3 categories.. Either you date White european chicks, Hipster or Village chicks or you run PROMOTER GAME.. and guess what??

Distant Light was running....... wait for it.... PROMOTER GAME!

Kirill is a MASSIVE fucking party promoter and is one of his best boys.... which means chicks think HES A PROMOTER! or at least down with the clique which is good enough since he would be invited to all the afterparties.. apartments and all the other sick shit. He will easily get white chicks by association and I did as well during my promoter days.

Dont believe me?... And I quote:

""""So when we show up it's like PARTY TIME. This started to attract bottle buyers who had the money but lacked the girls and the "group vibe". It's not like I party like that once in awhile, its a weekly occurance""""

Hmm... sounds like a promoter to me.. One provides the bottles and they supply the girls that were lacking.. hmmm??"

""""ttle does anyone know were in the works of possible sex parties, we've fucked in the elegant bathrooms, fingered chicks at the table""""

At the table you say? Regular dudes have tables in NYC? also very interesting.

""""Only thing I knew is that I had connections through others for vegas. As 1oak LV, Marquee, Tao, Lavo are all run by NY based guys. So I know I'd be taken care of """"

All promoter heavy nightclubs.. I know EVERY SINGLE one of those locations and have gamed in them. How does a normal guy like that have connections to all the nightclubs?


Dont make it seem like the dude was out there grinding out all the bars and clubs AS A REGULAR DUDE and pulling ass... Ive been down all those paths in NYC and know the place backwards. Value, status and money in NYC is everything. If you are trying to cross racial barriers in NYC without it.... forget it.


WIA and guys I appreciate your input but I really feel like I know NYC since I was born and raised there and still go back.

****NYC is SHIT for black men looking for white lizards PERIOD. If you aren't a club promoter, TIGHT boys with a promoter, dating strictly Euro girls or sticking to a hipster scene (which i havent fully tested). Stay the fuck away from NYC for white lizards*****

If you are an average dude with a corporate job... not a ton of bread and want to meet white american chicks the old fashioned way in the field you are better off going somewhere else.

There arent THAT many euro chicks besides aupairs for you to get either. There are even Euro girl promoters! There a Swedish dude there who has tons of them at his tables weekly. Ive seen it myself.

haha I follow Kirill on Twitter. That boy is crazy with the shit he does with chicks.

honestly that should be a lesson. Fame is everything.

Fame + Game = Killer

you're like a shark in the water at that point.

The amount of pussy he's slain I don't even think he keeps count.

(02-19-2017 08:09 PM)colblionel Wrote:  haha I follow Kirill on Twitter. That boy is crazy with the shit he does with chicks.

honestly that should be a lesson. Fame is everything.

Fame + Game = Killer

you're like a shark in the water at that point.

The amount of pussy he's slain I don't even think he keeps count.

yo didnt he swirly some chick in a toilet??

(02-19-2017 08:10 PM)Mufasa Wrote:  

(02-19-2017 08:09 PM)colblionel Wrote:  haha I follow Kirill on Twitter. That boy is crazy with the shit he does with chicks.

honestly that should be a lesson. Fame is everything.

Fame + Game = Killer

you're like a shark in the water at that point.

The amount of pussy he's slain I don't even think he keeps count.

yo didnt he swirly some chick in a toilet??

Yes he did haha

So...I would be very happy with some hipster or European chicks in a rotation here in NYC.

Hell, I'd love some promoter connections. Gonna dig through Distant's posts too.

To echo darknight and rudebwoy, friends of mine used to smash out Indian/Pakistani lizards in uni. The area of London that the uni was situated was a pipeline to East London, which was and possibly, still is, a haven for Indian/Pakistanis. My friends were black and were getting these lizards to do all sorts of things, shiners (blowjobs), public sex..etc..just like the white lizards. The key thing to note here is, away from home and the mice will play. I even got hooked up by one of my Indian friends to smash some lizard, her dad owned a chain of pharmacy stores. I was supposed to be her chocolate experience but I didn't pull the trigger..ended up just going to sleep again.

For those looking for the pods, if you click on the link on my signature or Rudebwoy's signature, it will lead you to nirvana. When the popup 'Enjoy this blog? Please spread the word appears, just click on 'Youtube' and you will see all our old pods.

Here is the DL pod for those who are trying to get over the New York white lizard hump: