(02-10-2017 02:23 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  Guys lets not bad mouth the forum, it has given us a space to talk and exchange some great ideas.

Politics and Religion is meant to divide the population, no point getting emotional.

I hate all religions and all political parties are the same.

Red vs Blue, East vs West, Russia vs America is the oldest trick in the book.

Divide and conquer.

I don't think its talking down, noticing changes are important. Its all relevant considering what happened to 262. However divide and conquer is a real thing.

(02-10-2017 02:23 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  Politics and Religion is meant to divide the population, no point getting emotional.
....

Divide and conquer.

@,Iso

That's forum stuff. My blog and the book ain't really about raising questions. That would be me talking into a forest. I barely get what I need from the net as is. The cutting edge stuff isn't concentrated anywhere. The basics aren't even in one good usable form to be honest. Lots of the questions people ask have already been solved. Banging in five minutes got solved a decade ago. Ad hoc threesomes has been investigated, and there are best practices.

In 2017,-We still got cats debating money and looks. Folks still trying to get over approach anxiety, still wondering what to say to some random 6 they've been stalking for years.

20 years into it and we've forgotten what we knew. And that's just the "white boy pua" stuff. Traditional black game has only seen print a few times. I don't know about you, but I'm not going to seek out bishop magic Don Juan and hand over some stacks to pick his brain.

Loss of knowledge is an age old problem
Too much knowledge is another

WIA

(02-10-2017 11:00 AM)Moma Wrote:  I wanted to discuss how many lizards per annum is realistic for someone working full time. How much time can they allocate to getting lizards before it becomes counter-productive even if their sex drive allows for it?

This now boils down to hunt efficiency. Go out at least once a week? Start to hit up social events as well? Push harder on special days that Rude alluded to such as Valentine's day, NYE etc?
Work online game during idle time in the office (swiping during meetings etc). How much time allocated to maturing these leads, texting, phone calls etc.

You mean how many ONS can you get in a year or how many (new) women can you get
into a consistent rotation?

It really depends on your positioning...at a certain point it can become a drain on other
areas of your life...i.e endless pleasure can become a punishment.

I've been learning about treating everything as a 100 set. So that would mean 100
swipes, 100 interactions, 100 approaches etc before you evaluate any results.

So if you can speed up the time it takes to complete a 100 set (with quality
game/logistics/venues) Then you could predict(ballpark) how much time it will
take and how many women you could potentially meet...

(02-10-2017 03:18 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  @,Iso

That's forum stuff. My blog and the book ain't really about raising questions. That would be me talking into a forest. I barely get what I need from the net as is. The cutting edge stuff isn't concentrated anywhere. The basics aren't even in one good usable form to be honest. Lots of the questions people ask have already been solved. Banging in five minutes got solved a decade ago. Ad hoc threesomes has been investigated, and there are best practices.

In 2017,-We still got cats debating money and looks. Folks still trying to get over approach anxiety, still wondering what to say to some random 6 they've been stalking for years.

20 years into it and we've forgotten what we knew. And that's just the "white boy pua" stuff. Traditional black game has only seen print a few times. I don't know about you, but I'm not going to seek out bishop magic Don Juan and hand over some stacks to pick his brain.

Loss of knowledge is an age old problem
Too much knowledge is another

WIA

The problem is that there is so much information out there that it's hard to distinguish what is useful and what is bullshit. It can get overwhelming at times. That's why the marketplace needs a simple guide that covers the basics with fluff or marketing added on.

(02-10-2017 06:26 PM)Apollo21 Wrote:  You mean how many ONS can you get in a year or how many (new) women can you get
into a consistent rotation?

It really depends on your positioning...at a certain point it can become a drain on other
areas of your life...i.e endless pleasure can become a punishment.

I totally agree with this

(02-10-2017 06:26 PM)Apollo21 Wrote:  I've been learning about treating everything as a 100 set. So that would mean 100
swipes, 100 interactions, 100 approaches etc before you evaluate any results.

So if you can speed up the time it takes to complete a 100 set (with quality
game/logistics/venues) Then you could predict(ballpark) how much time it will
take and how many women you could potentially meet...

I meant ONS to start with. After ONS, one can start to dial it down to harem management and lizard rotation. But mastering ONS is essential for one to cut their teeth..or is it? Good points and interesting addition regarding 100 set though.

(02-10-2017 11:00 AM)Moma Wrote:  I wanted to discuss how many lizards per annum is realistic for someone working full time. How much time can they allocate to getting lizards before it becomes counter-productive even if their sex drive allows for it?

This now boils down to hunt efficiency. Go out at least once a week? Start to hit up social events as well? Push harder on special days that Rude alluded to such as Valentine's day, NYE etc?
Work online game during idle time in the office (swiping during meetings etc). How much time allocated to maturing these leads, texting, phone calls etc.

A healthy mix of recycled girls on rotation and the occasional, casual pursuit of new girls is working conveniently for me at the moment.

Too many girls on rotations makes me lazy as the necessity to approach new girls is negated. Too less or no regular girls forces me to go out all the time pursuing new conquests which is detrimental to my work life and productivity.

I'd say 12 minimum new girls per annum is enough to satisfy the average game aware player.

Crude, I am in total accordance with you on 12. What do you think the maximum would be, again, given a 40 hour work week, where it becomes counter productive?
25 max? 25 max is just over 2 new lizards a month.

I've set the goal of 12 new lizards per year for 2015 and 2016. Coincidentally both years I hit 13. 12 is a great goal because 1/month keeps you on the prowl for new pussy even if you have a main bitch you're seeing.

(02-11-2017 01:01 PM)Moma Wrote:  Crude, I am in total accordance with you on 12. What do you think the maximum would be, again, given a 40 hour work week, where it becomes counter productive?
25 max? 25 max is just over 2 new lizards a month.

Depends on how you're meeting all these chicks, day vs night vs online, and how efficient you are. It also depends on how well you retain them. I keep em around a while. Right now I have a plate I've been banging on and off for a year and another that's going on 8 months. There are times when I bang both of them during the week. Why would I go out? Unless I'm bored, or there's a special event I want to go to, I'll bang both of them to unload my nuts, then use the rest of the time to stack cash.

12 new notches in a year...I like this goal.

(02-11-2017 01:01 PM)Moma Wrote:  Crude, I am in total accordance with you on 12. What do you think the maximum would be, again, given a 40 hour work week, where it becomes counter productive?
25 max? 25 max is just over 2 new lizards a month.

It depends. For those of us that have busy work schedules, a streamlined, efficient way to access to new pussy is important. This will differ player to player.

For me, I live in a great part of a big city with a bunch of bars all within walking distance, so standard local night game once or twice a week is enough to satisfy my appetite.

So over a year I'd average at about 20 new girls. Any more that this means I'm partying too much. Tinder, day approaches and social circle game are fun to mix it up a little but not good enough for me to rely on.

So it seems like I have weekly questions about situations that are popping up during nightgame for you guys to tear apart and analyse. As usual its descriptive. I have been mentally recording situations recently so I can see how I can improve. So here we go...

Background:

I picked up an Italian (Enza) girl about 1 year ago who was single/on the rocks with her boyfriend. We went out on a date which went well. We agreed to go out again and all was well. After the date she said she "lost her phone" I think she blocked me on whatsapp but whatever.

Situation:

Since Cologne isnt the biggest city in the world, I ended up running into her again last night at the club where I met her the first time. We hit it off and of course the interest is still there. Shes still/back with the same dude and of course its still on the rocks. We catch up on whats happened since we last saw each other and i proceed to escalate and get logistics.

Turns out shes still living 1 hour away and drove there with 2 of her friends and shes pretty much the designated driver. I stayed with her anyway and started pushing. She lets me feel up her ass and pretty much anything I want. We almost even kiss a few times. Fast forward to the time shes leaving and I see her hesitating to give me her number and wants to do Facebook. (I got the feeling she doesnt want to tip off her bf) So i agree to this and offers to drive me home but i decline since I wanted to head back into the spot to run some 4 am gutter game.

During the interaction my head was looking for posts on here about boyfriend destroyer game and could only remember "dont insult the boyfriend" just keep moving forward like he doesnt exist.

Conclusion:

What would you have done in this situation? Would you have ejected right away or do what I did?

As soon as I hear boyfriend I generally eject but I was having a rough night and my goal here was to reestablish lines of communication and see if I could convince her to meet me again privately even though she has a bf. Maybe I pushed too hard?

Not that its super important but I think its good for game talk.... Lets hear some opinions.

This is my first time fully taking advantage of valentines day as a holiday so im putting in as many approaches as i can. I'd like to have at least three girls lined up this week.

(02-12-2017 08:47 AM)kirdiesel Wrote:  So it seems like I have weekly questions about situations that are popping up during nightgame for you guys to tear apart and analyse. As usual its descriptive. I have been mentally recording situations recently so I can see how I can improve. So here we go...

Keep em coming. You only get better by dealing with problems.

(02-12-2017 08:47 AM)kirdiesel Wrote:  Background:

I picked up an Italian (Enza) girl about 1 year ago who was single/on the rocks with her boyfriend. We went out on a date which went well. We agreed to go out again and all was well. After the date she said she "lost her phone" I think she blocked me on whatsapp but whatever.

1) Why did you not close on date 1?

Did you set the date up so that it was easy to find your way back to your place?

(02-12-2017 08:47 AM)kirdiesel Wrote:  Situation:

Since Cologne isnt the biggest city in the world, I ended up running into her again last night at the club where I met her the first time. We hit it off and of course the interest is still there. Shes still/back with the same dude and of course its still on the rocks. We catch up on whats happened since we last saw each other and i proceed to escalate and get logistics.

Turns out shes still living 1 hour away and drove there with 2 of her friends and shes pretty much the designated driver. I stayed with her anyway and started pushing.

2) Did you solve her logistical problem by figuring out what to do with the friends?

(02-12-2017 08:47 AM)kirdiesel Wrote:  She lets me feel up her ass and pretty much anything I want. We almost even kiss a few times.

3) So you were amping up the sexual heat - did you have a plan to fuck her in the bathroom, outside in an alley?

Her logistics were shot, but you were being a horn dog...am I right?

(02-12-2017 08:47 AM)kirdiesel Wrote:  Fast forward to the time shes leaving and I see her hesitating to give me her number and wants to do Facebook. (I got the feeling she doesnt want to tip off her bf) So i agree to this and offers to drive me home but i decline since I wanted to head back into the spot to run some 4 am gutter game.

4) First smart move to run gutter game.

(02-12-2017 08:47 AM)kirdiesel Wrote:  During the interaction my head was looking for posts on here about boyfriend destroyer game and could only remember "dont insult the boyfriend" just keep moving forward like he doesnt exist.

Her - "oh I hate my boyfriend"
You - "he can't be that bad - he's loyal, kind, supportive"

(02-12-2017 08:47 AM)kirdiesel Wrote:  Conclusion:

What would you have done in this situation? Would you have ejected right away or do what I did?

As soon as I hear boyfriend I generally eject but I was having a rough night and my goal here was to reestablish lines of communication and see if I could convince her to meet me again privately even though she has a bf. Maybe I pushed too hard?

Not that its super important but I think its good for game talk.... Lets hear some opinions.

My read is that you botched date #1.
Club meet up was logistically impossible because she was the ride.
You needed to run either
1) the "after party" game like I suggested last week - to give them something to do, while you fucked the friend
2) "let's be bad and fuck in the alley" type game

You seemed to want to make her want to fuck you so bad that she solved the problem
That's a possible strategy - IF THE CHICK IS SMART.

On the recovery tip
- she lives an hour away.

This is actually the job for social media. Where you exchange instagrams/snapchats (but never your facebook) - and then you chronicle your life as a playboy in Cologne.
- skiing in nearby mountains (I assume all Europe is mountainous, lol) WITH FRIENDS
- good plates of food AND FRIENDS
- working out photos AND FRIENDS
- trying on ties with A SHOP GIRL
- cool club scenes - WITH FRIENDS

Basically find the coolest guys and the hottest chicks on Instagram - and go for the social messaging in their pictures. Do that in Cologne. You have may have to actively seek out hotspots and take snaps just for the 'Gram.

Why not facebook?

To her, they might be one in the same.
To us, we might be facebook friends with business associates, family members, long time friends. FB can be very humanizing - and that's bad.

You want to be bigger than life.

Furthermore this broad can start drama that affects your real life.

So what is this Instagram life doing for you -

It's creating this "Fear of Missing Out" - which is what all social media does.

(A lot of this is cribbed from Luke, as I try it out myself)

She's thinking " Instead of being a dork on my phone, I could be having fun like Kirdiesel. "

The next time you see her, you should say what's up and then cut it short.
She has to INVEST in you in order to get the party started.

Right now, it looks like you did all the investment. You didn't close, and you kept doing things that couldn't lead to sex.

As a famous game guru said, "Not having a plan is disrespecting the girl"

WIA

(02-11-2017 01:01 PM)Moma Wrote:  Crude, I am in total accordance with you on 12. What do you think the maximum would be, again, given a 40 hour work week, where it becomes counter productive?
25 max? 25 max is just over 2 new lizards a month.

So last year was the longest I have ever been single since I've been 18 so I was a wild child. Even though I still had my ex in the picture (because of my only son) I was running through broads. I had over 60+ broads last year and the majority were one night stands. Out of 52 weeks I probably went out 40 weekends. Also traveled to NY, Vegas (x2), DR (x2), Miami, Cancun, and worked in Houston, Providence, Hartford, Miami, and Atlanta.

Definitely a fun year for me.

(02-12-2017 11:57 AM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  1) the "after party" game like I suggested last week - to give them something to do, while you fucked the friend

This is where "secret society" comes into play.

Average dude thinks "I already went on a date with (target), no way her friends will be interested if (target) rejected me."

Wrong. We'll fuck em all.

This thread is literally the best place on this site. Cracked up at giving broads something to do while reading Shakespear to their friend ''behind the alley''. Haha.

Big ups to you Moma and RudeBwoy for the best thread.

Treating everything as a 100 set. Thats insightful in so many ways.

Gracias Apollo.

WIA we waiting for that book. But take your time bro.

I'm setting up "plans" for Friday with a girl I've banged that I'm trying to plate. But this planning is starting to feel irksome.

I just want sex ASAP - how might I crassly just ask her to come over (risking scaring the cat away).

(02-12-2017 11:57 AM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

(02-12-2017 08:47 AM)kirdiesel Wrote:  So it seems like I have weekly questions about situations that are popping up during nightgame for you guys to tear apart and analyse. As usual its descriptive. I have been mentally recording situations recently so I can see how I can improve. So here we go...

Keep em coming. You only get better by dealing with problems.

(02-12-2017 08:47 AM)kirdiesel Wrote:  Background:

I picked up an Italian (Enza) girl about 1 year ago who was single/on the rocks with her boyfriend. We went out on a date which went well. We agreed to go out again and all was well. After the date she said she "lost her phone" I think she blocked me on whatsapp but whatever.

1) Why did you not close on date 1?

Did you set the date up so that it was easy to find your way back to your place?

(02-12-2017 08:47 AM)kirdiesel Wrote:  Situation:

Since Cologne isnt the biggest city in the world, I ended up running into her again last night at the club where I met her the first time. We hit it off and of course the interest is still there. Shes still/back with the same dude and of course its still on the rocks. We catch up on whats happened since we last saw each other and i proceed to escalate and get logistics.

Turns out shes still living 1 hour away and drove there with 2 of her friends and shes pretty much the designated driver. I stayed with her anyway and started pushing.

2) Did you solve her logistical problem by figuring out what to do with the friends?

(02-12-2017 08:47 AM)kirdiesel Wrote:  She lets me feel up her ass and pretty much anything I want. We almost even kiss a few times.

3) So you were amping up the sexual heat - did you have a plan to fuck her in the bathroom, outside in an alley?

Her logistics were shot, but you were being a horn dog...am I right?

(02-12-2017 08:47 AM)kirdiesel Wrote:  Fast forward to the time shes leaving and I see her hesitating to give me her number and wants to do Facebook. (I got the feeling she doesnt want to tip off her bf) So i agree to this and offers to drive me home but i decline since I wanted to head back into the spot to run some 4 am gutter game.

4) First smart move to run gutter game.

(02-12-2017 08:47 AM)kirdiesel Wrote:  During the interaction my head was looking for posts on here about boyfriend destroyer game and could only remember "dont insult the boyfriend" just keep moving forward like he doesnt exist.

Her - "oh I hate my boyfriend"
You - "he can't be that bad - he's loyal, kind, supportive"

(02-12-2017 08:47 AM)kirdiesel Wrote:  Conclusion:

What would you have done in this situation? Would you have ejected right away or do what I did?

As soon as I hear boyfriend I generally eject but I was having a rough night and my goal here was to reestablish lines of communication and see if I could convince her to meet me again privately even though she has a bf. Maybe I pushed too hard?

Not that its super important but I think its good for game talk.... Lets hear some opinions.

My read is that you botched date #1.
Club meet up was logistically impossible because she was the ride.
You needed to run either
1) the "after party" game like I suggested last week - to give them something to do, while you fucked the friend
2) "let's be bad and fuck in the alley" type game

You seemed to want to make her want to fuck you so bad that she solved the problem
That's a possible strategy - IF THE CHICK IS SMART.

On the recovery tip
- she lives an hour away.

This is actually the job for social media. Where you exchange instagrams/snapchats (but never your facebook) - and then you chronicle your life as a playboy in Cologne.
- skiing in nearby mountains (I assume all Europe is mountainous, lol) WITH FRIENDS
- good plates of food AND FRIENDS
- working out photos AND FRIENDS
- trying on ties with A SHOP GIRL
- cool club scenes - WITH FRIENDS

Basically find the coolest guys and the hottest chicks on Instagram - and go for the social messaging in their pictures. Do that in Cologne. You have may have to actively seek out hotspots and take snaps just for the 'Gram.

Why not facebook?

To her, they might be one in the same.
To us, we might be facebook friends with business associates, family members, long time friends. FB can be very humanizing - and that's bad.

You want to be bigger than life.

Furthermore this broad can start drama that affects your real life.

So what is this Instagram life doing for you -

It's creating this "Fear of Missing Out" - which is what all social media does.

(A lot of this is cribbed from Luke, as I try it out myself)

She's thinking " Instead of being a dork on my phone, I could be having fun like Kirdiesel. "

The next time you see her, you should say what's up and then cut it short.
She has to INVEST in you in order to get the party started.

Right now, it looks like you did all the investment. You didn't close, and you kept doing things that couldn't lead to sex.

As a famous game guru said, "Not having a plan is disrespecting the girl"

WIA

OK so lets go with some extra details I left out:

1) Date 1 was dinner at a place maybe 10 minutes from my apartment.

This is was about a year ago so my memory is a little hazy. But what happened was she showed up to the date with 2 of her friends who also ended up eating in the same restaurant. Not directly with us and didnt interrupt us at all but nonetheless in the same restaurant. First time I had seen some bullshit like that in a long time and I was pissed. According to her the problem is that her friends also wanted to come to Cologne from her village etc etc....

I think she uses them an excuse to get her out of situations she doesnt want to be in.

2) Afterparty game was not an option. I currently have a studio apartment and no place to send her friends to chill while i fuck her or whatever in the other room. I think was pretty fucked in the situation no matter what I did. I have zero experience with lets fuck in the alley/bathroom type of game so honestly that didn't even enter my mind.

Yes you hit the nail on the head. I want to make her so hot that she solved the problem herself and sent the friends on the train. However, she would have looked like a slut in front of her friends doing that. Should I have suggested she do that?

OR

It would have a lasting effect on her and she would hit me up again to setup a proper date with proper logistics so I can finally get this done.

You have a massive point on Facebook.. I think im going to go ahead and make it hidden and just tell girls I dont have one. I also have been meaning to re do my Insta.

She says shes gonna hit me up but my gut instinct says she won't... thus the lack of commitment on the number... I hate boyfriend game.. So annoying. Good experience though. You never know when youll need it again.

In other news I have closed 3 girls in the last week fellas so dont think I am always losing. I do win too... I just like my failed attempts picked apart. Its the only way to improve.

(02-10-2017 03:18 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  @,Iso

That's forum stuff. My blog and the book ain't really about raising questions. That would be me talking into a forest. I barely get what I need from the net as is. The cutting edge stuff isn't concentrated anywhere. The basics aren't even in one good usable form to be honest. Lots of the questions people ask have already been solved. Banging in five minutes got solved a decade ago. Ad hoc threesomes has been investigated, and there are best practices.

In 2017,-We still got cats debating money and looks. Folks still trying to get over approach anxiety, still wondering what to say to some random 6 they've been stalking for years.

20 years into it and we've forgotten what we knew. And that's just the "white boy pua" stuff. Traditional black game has only seen print a few times. I don't know about you, but I'm not going to seek out bishop magic Don Juan and hand over some stacks to pick his brain.

Loss of knowledge is an age old problem
Too much knowledge is another

WIA

One of my favorite things to do on this forum. Catch WIA dropping dimes and post a dropping dimes reference

(02-10-2017 03:18 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  @,Iso

That's forum stuff. My blog and the book ain't really about raising questions. That would be me talking into a forest. I barely get what I need from the net as is. The cutting edge stuff isn't concentrated anywhere. The basics aren't even in one good usable form to be honest. Lots of the questions people ask have already been solved. Banging in five minutes got solved a decade ago. Ad hoc threesomes has been investigated, and there are best practices.

In 2017,-We still got cats debating money and looks. Folks still trying to get over approach anxiety, still wondering what to say to some random 6 they've been stalking for years.

20 years into it and we've forgotten what we knew. And that's just the "white boy pua" stuff. Traditional black game has only seen print a few times. I don't know about you, but I'm not going to seek out bishop magic Don Juan and hand over some stacks to pick his brain.

Loss of knowledge is an age old problem
Too much knowledge is another

WIA

I think 99% of the game is just growing a pair and getting out there. The rest can be solved by trial, error, and feedback.

On my end

I need to honestly start typing up after night reports for the very same reason I stated earlier. Couple that with not falling for the pitfall that is being a young dude in the prime of his youth doing stupid shit (impressing 18 year old chicks by drinking warm vodka straight with a smile then another and another while dying on the inside among other things) and I feel I'll improve exponentially.

It's knowing that the lack of experience is my main problem that irks me. Only so much time is available. And it'll only get worse looking at you older cats here in this very thread.

Story Time

Not a hook up but a story worth telling imo

It was mid January and Im attending a coworkers wedding in north carolina. The bride and groom are both virgins with the brides side being loaded and my coworker being from a well off family--also both white.

On the flight in Im informed that Ive met all the groomsmen before (fact) and that I can hang out with them. It doesnt take long after listening them talk about girls that none of them will be seeing any action from the sexy bridesmaids due to a complete lack of game. One of them had the "asshole-center-of-attention" thing down but was definitely a "knees weak arms are heavy-moms speghetti" type dude.



Classification: Potential cock block--not a threat (we'll call him PCBNAT, he makes appearances latter in the story)
My boss also takes this time to let me know that the wedding is on a plantation....



I immidiately know that Im the lone black guy. I just know it. theres no way Im going to a white wedding on a plantation and there will be more than one black guy... I accept my fate. Theres only one solution...Double down on fun street..

So we arrive and me and my boys go and buy a shit ton of alcohol. We get to the wedding and we start ripping shots before the 5pm ceremony. Its safe to say Im in my night game element. I take 3 sticks of gum, start chewing, and start working the crowd. Within the hour Ive hugged all the old-ass-white family ladies on the brides side; they seemed pleasant although in my mind they were too old not to have some racist undertone.

The ceremony begins and of course my boss and I sit our drunk asses on the brides side--woops. This is also a good time to point out that the seating at weddings is ass backwards. Yea as a playa-playa-playa I should want to be on the grooms side where I can scope the bridesmaids faces...But as a loyal supporter of my coworker and childhood friend Id much rather be able to look at my friends face as he signs his life away under god and take pictures lol.

---end scene---

Were at the reception and my boss and I are seated at the back corner with 2 of my coworkers former teammates, one of his cousins-girl with a kid, one of his cousins who is 12-girl, and a 12 year old boy I mentor who is a family friend of his.
I take this time to work the room and talk to the girls my age. Most of them are out of shape or fat but theres a few cuties. This is important for me to start chatting them up...you know because "game" lol

I sit back at my table and start chopping it up with the 12 year old girl (not what you think) about random shit that 12 year olds do. IM mostly making fun of her and being right (mentoring teenage girls has seriously takin my banter with girls to the next level no joke) about shit 12 year old girls do. Then start chopping it up with the older cousin. I get the vibe she's not interested but open to conversation so I humor her.

In-between conversations Im talking and making friends with the lady serving free wine (yea it was that kind of open bar) and we're fist bumping, high fiving, and having a great time talking everytime I go back for my wine. Eventually PCBNAT ends up at our table and starts his MO. He pulls out the football game and takes a seat next to the older cousin. She's into watching the game with him but....



He's building too much comfort and not enough attraction. He slides into the friend zone like that dumb bitch in return of the jedi



People are beginning to crowd around so I just start wandering and exploring. More wine, pointless conversations, bathroom, checking out massa's main house.....
I come back and the game is over so the crowd is gone. Take this time to introduce the 12 year old kid i mentor to the 12 year old girl cousin. they start talking and shit--his fucking parents are fucking proud as fuck lol!! The mom gives me a thumbs up and the dad just smiles. Im texting this lil motherfucker putting him on game and shit lol.

Some time passes and people start lingering to the dance floor doing some weird country line dance version of the electric slide. One of the ex-teammates is trying to flirt with a girl (call her Red) but he's having no luck. Im aware its going on but thats all at this point.

Over time Red starts playing the proximity rule and I'm constantly finding myself answering her questions. One of my favorites is if I can country line dance--I get the opportunity to inform these silly lil snow bunnies that my elementary school had a "ho-down" every year--I got the juice. I walk away/give her space to give homeboy a chance to close the deal... Eventually the music shifts to more my taste



..kidding. they weren't that live lol
But its definitely blacker. People are bumping and grinding Im honestly surprised all these old ass white folk let this happen. I don't know what I should have been expecting alternatively lol. Red ups the ante on the proximity rule and starts trying to dance on me. At this point ex-teammate has given up and is over there sulking...Game on

I dont recall the exact maneuvers: were dancing and Red is clearly hot for me so I whisper in her ear to go the bathroom and instead walk outside and around the back of the building the reception is in. She complies...
I send my last text to the kid I mentor "tell her lets dance, take her hand and lead her to the dance floor." It works for him.


Fist Pumps for everybody


I find her out back and we start getting hot and heavy. And I tell her to follow me and we sneak our way over to massa's house. My ancestors are in the sky cheering me on like mufasa here to deliver the child of prophecy as old slave hmms echo across the night sky"



I take her upstairs and take off her panties and start finger blasting her right there in massa's bed. She comes twice.
I don't know how THIS comes up but some how, some way her age inters the equation. Goddamn it I don't know how but it does. I realize that she's in HS and Im immediately skeptical over if this chick is legal....



Its not worth it...I can see the headline already.

"Black guy fucks underage white girl on plantation"

Ima just take the L and bounce on this one. I walk her outside and people are leaving. I tell her to head over to the reception first and I'll come later (no pun intended). We meet up and exchange numbers, flirt for a bit then she leaves.

---End scene---

My boss and I leave and head back with the groomsmen to their hotel and start drinking again getting ready to go out. They're all being pussies and bailing on my plans when two of the bridesmaids come over (shit like this makes me question if the bride is actually a virgin).

One is here to see the best man (married to him) and the other is this tall blonde who is the sexiest girl there. Im talking like "blonde-white-girl-but-her-father-is-the-grand-wizard-of-the-klan" type of sexy (call her Grand Wizard)
Its funny because the guys are talking about the girls at the wedding but here they are with nothing to show for it...except me.

Another childhood friend of mine (No Game#7) agrees to go out with me as well as another groomsman. Me and No Game #7 start talking about Grand Wizard and he says that they had a nice convo and danced a little but she kept leaving every so often and he'd have to find her. He is also convinced that she is a "nice girl" and "not like that"...

We hop in an uber and continue this conversation where I tell him his game is all wrong and she's exactly like that. He can't be convinced. We hit the bars and drink for a bit before returning. I make it my personal mission to prove him wrong.

We get back to the hotel and Grand Wizard and the other girl are braiding one of the groomsman's hair...I remember when they did that in kindergarten too....

I start pulling people in to play a drinking game but leave Grand Wizard and the beauty shop without an invite. Im definitely the center of attention and PCBNAT doesnt like this. Ive got the jams, the personality, and that warmth-that black hole energy that sucks people in. Its all over his face so he does the next best thing that he can do....PCBNAT cock blocks No Game #7

Mean while Grand Wizard has made her way over to me and we're all playing the game and Im PLAYING THE GAME. She feeling me; Im throwing hard core banter at her. Strait body shots; two pieces with biscuits extra gravy. She's eating it up touching me, playfully hitting me on the arm, its clear her attention is on me. I think I've made my point to No Game #7.

Blah-blah happens and I decide its time for me to leave. I grab my boss who's passed out in one of the beds and we bounce. The look Grand Wizard gave me as I turned from her was priceless....



No hugs. No kisses. Just peace.

fade to black

--Fin



1) I plugged Red into Facebook and turns out she's 18
2) My coworker came back from his honeymoon and asked if I had fun dancing with brides cousin...yea Red was her cousin lol
3) At the air port I run into the kid Im mentoring and his family. With a big smile on her face she says "Mentoring them in {x,y,z} and in life!!"

Really hoping for WIA to swoop in and school me.

So far I'm thinking "buyers mentality" and that since I want to casually fuck, I should just say that flat out as it gives her the chance to flow into MY frame. We've already discussed being FWB (I know, don't take a woman's word seriously, only her actions), and last time we hung out (last Friday) I got "I'm on my period"-ed.

Waiting until friday seems "easier," as then I can structure a "fun evening" to build up more comfort and then go for the bang. But if I'm actually gonna keep fucking her, I can't be the circus and have a plan for "entertainment" every single time. Shit is GOING to get expensive, and I am NOT going down that rabbit hole again. Holy shit am I not.

Really hoping for WIA to swoop in and school me.

So far I'm thinking "buyers mentality" and that since I want to casually fuck, I should just say that flat out as it gives her the chance to flow into MY frame. We've already discussed being FWB (I know, don't take a woman's word seriously, only her actions), and last time we hung out (last Friday) I got "I'm on my period"-ed.

Waiting until friday seems "easier," as then I can structure a "fun evening" to build up more comfort and then go for the bang. But if I'm actually gonna keep fucking her, I can't be the circus and have a plan for "entertainment" every single time. Shit is GOING to get expensive, and I am NOT going down that rabbit hole again. Holy shit am I not.

Cold approach during the day, decent conversation and rapport, girl agrees to exchange info and meet for a drink but includes the 'as friends' line.

How do you procede?