Mufasa,

I feel you bro. I actually got a couple girls in the city that has cribs and I've already smashed them. I'm talking about nice condos in Buckhead.

Any of you guys game during the Super Bowl?

I was able to bag a bunch of chicks at a lounge I was at. It was a good day.

(02-05-2017 11:27 AM)NewDayNewFace Wrote:  Dimebait? What's your dress game like.

Professionally, I'm a suit & tie cat. Most often, a bow tie, matching pocket square or lapel flower pin. That along with a matching pair of Cole Hann LunarGrands with matching soles and I'm killing it.


Casually, I'm rocking jeans and v-neck polo sweater with the aforementioned color matched shoes or some Gucci loafers (LastChance clearance rack).

Tremendous data sheet.

WIA

(02-06-2017 11:46 AM)DimeBait Wrote:  

(02-05-2017 11:27 AM)NewDayNewFace Wrote:  Dimebait? What's your dress game like.

Professionally, I'm a suit & tie cat. Most often, a bow tie, matching pocket square or lapel flower pin. That along with a matching pair of Cole Hann LunarGrands with matching soles and I'm killing it.


Casually, I'm rocking jeans and v-neck polo sweater with the aforementioned color matched shoes or some Gucci loafers (LastChance clearance rack).

The LunarGrand's are sexy shoes. You should get these two versions of the LunarGrand's. I bought them and always get compliments on the shoes. They range from $100-$170 depending if you have a cole Haan outlet next to your place.

(02-06-2017 04:11 PM)Iso Wrote:  The LunarGrand's are sexy shoes. You should get these two versions of the LunarGrand's. I bought them and always get compliments on the shoes. They range from $100-$170 depending if you have a cole Haan outlet next to your place.

Yes indeed! I usually always catch them on clearance. There is a cat I follow on Instagram called Greenwichvintage.us/shop that can make custom soled shoes with custom fabrics that blows the Cole Hanns out of the water, but them bishes are like $200 a pair. One of these I might get a custom made pair to create the sickest color combo ever.
Adding a little color in your wardrobe can go along way!

I'm late, but gonna drop a comment anyway...

(01-22-2017 01:06 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

(01-22-2017 06:51 AM)MaceTyrell Wrote:  Chick who's friend I was getting hype about (as she said she had a hot roommate who's type I am) drunkingly grazed my cheek and was like "yeah she loves your type, mulattos."

Alarm bells should have been ringing then.

Right? You ain't even going in that direction, but they bring that shit to your door step.

WIA

My experience recently touched on this. At the end of last year I went to some house party held in honor of a classmate's birthday. It was a pretty sizable house (he had like 3 or 4 roomates) and there had to be like 80-90 folks there. It was a good scene.

One of my classmates brought some of her undergraduate friends to the party. I didn't know this classmate well (only through friends of friends), but it wasn't long before I started vibing with one of the friends she brought. She was a pretty white girl, brunette, couple years younger than me.

Things go well, we're both pretty buzzed, lots of aggressive making out and all that. I'm trying to angle for how to go end this night on a positive note, but the convo sort of takes a weird turn. She's buzzed and after we've talked a bit and told each other about our academic background/work plans, she starts asking a lot of questions.

"wow you're going to work at [so-and-so company] so like why are you talking to me, there must be so many [my school's name] girls you could be talking to"

"What's wrong with all these [my school's name] girls?"

"Can't you find one of these [my school's name] girls?"

All of this is being said in between makeouts. I'm getting no real physical signs of disinterest from her, but her mind kept working overtime to come up with statements like those. It was getting a little annoying after a while.

Then she said this, and things took a racial turn:

"I mean, it must just be tough for you to find a white girl because you have to find one that's open-minded..."

She then told me about how she went to a school that was only 20% white and how her and her friends had a lot of non-white friends (I know from her friend's social circle at my school that this is the case with her, at least).

I kind of brushed this off, kept pushing, and acted like she didn't say anything, but after the fact I couldn't help but wonder about the statement. This was the first time race came up in the conversation, and she's the one who mentioned it. It indicated to me that the impact of my race was already weighing on her mind before anything had really happened.
I knew that was generally the case with white girls (especially the ones in the place I'm in), but this was the first time one had laid bare to me those inner thoughts as i was talking to her. She already had it in her head that she must've been a rare prize for me.

Nothing ended up happening (my classmate came in toward the end of the party and started a soft cockblock that proved pretty successful; the friend went back home the next day), but that still stands out to me. Nothing about what I said or did that night was steering us in a racial direction at all, but we still ended up there.

If psychology always works, why can't we convince all guys to learn Game?

After all, Game saves lives.

Logistical barrier? Not seeing that - Internet.

We don't have the psychological tools? But then we're only theorizing that psychology always works.

(02-07-2017 04:07 AM)262 Wrote:  If psychology always works, why can't we convince all guys to learn Game?

After all, Game saves lives.

Logistical barrier? Not seeing that - Internet.

We don't have the psychological tools? But then we're only theorizing that psychology always works.

It's not that you can't teach Game to everyone because everyone use Game even without knowing it but How would you make people deal with bad perception of self, harsh reality check and other things like that ?

As WIA said it's easier to protect our fragile ego ©

^ If psychology always works, then we can get all guys to drop their egos.

@-262

Guys don't want to believe, so they don't try. They're firmly embedded in the matrix.

@Excelsior

Lol. They're hilarious with that "whiteness is a prize" mentality. Like most white chicks ain't down for the brown. Bitches likes to fuck behind closed doors.

White chicks have always been game easy mode precisely because they think it's taboo.

Racism makes them easy.

The unwillingness to really experience life outside of the white paradigm, while the average non white person knows everything about their lives puts them at a distinct disadvantage.Their culture and mentality are advertised everywhere, so unlike understanding a chick that was Jain, you can predict most of what she's into.

On the game tip, lots of public displays of affection make private expressions of lust harder, because you're basically deflating the balloon/releasing the sexual tension.

In that situation - where you've established mutual sexual attraction, and you're in that trust build phase, you come at the clueless white chick by raising the taboo factor.

*Change your tone*(because body language is more powerful than verbal language), like you're letting her in on a secret.

"Fuck no would I have an open relationship with a white girl, are you crazy? Like a regular normal white girl?

The truth is. Most white girls use me for sex.

It's because they know that they can't fall in love with me, that they can actually fuck the way they truly want to fuck. They don't need to pretend like they do with white boys.

Never met a girl that didn't love black dick. Or like they say it, black cock. The chicks that do fall in love, I have to school them on why we can't be a couple"

Tell a bitch that she can't bring no black baby back home to her parents, and Caitlin will stoke her own fires.

Tell her about the time you fucked her and her curious roomie.

"There's a girl at this very party that I made squirt for the first time, but I can't violate her like that.

A black man can have as many white girls as he wants, as long as he's discrete.

Tell her about fucking a chick Thursday and seeing her with her boyfriend Friday.
_______

Basically the black dude should try to Pull the white chicks that are "not into black guys".

The white chicks with black girl haircuts, those are the hard ones to pull, because they want a Daqan. Muscles, tats, hood, - Sara Jay wants the 100% gold on the neck, Jordan's, swisher sweet and weed. Drive a Chevy on rims, stack paper illegally, gang of homies.

Jada Stevens could meet a tall, in shape, Nigerian doctor, as black a stereotype as I can think of. She's not going to be getting wet even though it's hard to beat Nigerian on the black scale. It's not the skin tone the gets her excited.

The chick that's " into black guys", is either fat, or into caricature. She's not into black guys, she wants to get beat down by Chris Brown. She wants the fantasy. She wants a black guy that black women don't particularly want (but will fuck)

I'm sure I can speak for a lot of dudes here, a cute white girl is not a prize. Even with all the issues in America, a fine white chick is still easier to find and pull than the comparable black chick. Because they're are so many of them. Like 5x the number of white chicks to black chicks population wise. I can literally throw a rock and hit cute white chick.

Add in the BMI issue with the number of obese black women - and the situation is more dire.

Plus a shit ton of black dudes are about pussy, not relationships. If you drop down to the easy nut category, the sea of white women becomes an ocean.

When you see a fit black dude with a fat (not phat) white chick - there is usually something else going on. Most of it is proximity. He's in that environment, and those chicks made it easy.

If the pussy is tight and the head is good, and she's generally amenable but just enough spice to keep him on his toes - a man is hard pressed to stay out there. That's why you shouldn't fuck ugly chicks, because it's easy to fall into rut. The pussy trap.

Pulling a Kerry Washington, a Meagan Goode, a slim but well built African - that's harder to do, because
1) less of them
2) no built in taboo advantage
3) competing against the type of guys in the club picture above (which is why game was developed!)

As many of you've seen, a white guy with game that's down with that swirl can often pull off some black chicks that would be tough for us. It's rare that I see a white guy hugged up with an ugly black chick.

I think we touched on the overall ease of white girls on the podcast.

So to recap

If a chick goes all Aryan brotherhood on you,
- School her on why white chicks fuck, on how they get off on the idea of black dick.
- emphasize discretion

- Tell her how a regular relationship with love and what not is damn near impossible.

This is basic disqualification in game terms, and the psychology of that is when an entitled girl hears she can't get something that's all she wants.

The downside to "race play" is that it's exhausting on some levels. It's never that you can't pull, it's do you have the desire/energy to deal with the aftermath.

One last thing, this white girl/black man scenario is where having a good body pays dividends. Girls generally like a good body, but only the chicks with no pussy control actually approach a man because he's built. (And girls that approach still want you to prove yourself)

But in the interracial context, the hint of being a strong black buck, that's just going to pound her into submission - that is powerful. Sometimes picking a girl up with strength is more sexual than dancing all night. Hitting that primal instinct, like grabbing her by the back of her head.

I've got scars on my frame from just being a man. But a chick will trace them with her fingers and imagine all sorts of Hollywood shit. (" I don't talk about those things anymore)

That's the role muscles play in this situation, where she's living in some mental fantasy. Scars, tattoos, muscles -all traditional attraction markers - they do a shit ton of work in this context because you're playing in the realm of fantasy, of taboo. Things that are generally attractive, become super attractive. And that is because ultimately the game is played in her mind. You're giving her this mental experience, and all she gives you is sex

WIA

Should have saved this for the book

That was some preacher stuff right there.

I hope a lot of you guys read that over a few times.

@Archie - I get the impression a lot of black guys here are looking for relationships and get hurt when white girls only want sex.

Just one thing I might disagree with, of course I am in a different location. I am seeing quite a few white guys dating black girls I wouldn't consider.

As for the chick with Excelsior, I probably would of ejected as soon as she made that racial comment.

Her - It must be hard for you to find white girls that are open to dating a black guy?

Me - No, not really. You know how many white girls are looking for the black experience!

Never heard that kind of bullshit once from a white girl in Germany. NOT ONCE.

They might make a snide or even sarcastic comment about me being American but nothing about race.

"I almost pulled a mid-30's Austrian cougar from here but the bitch started that hackneyed bullshit speech about people in my country being "so poor, but soo happy ". I left her mid sentence and went out to mack on other girls. But my sister started crying for some stupid reason ... so we ended up leaving early".

This was a quote from the fantastic report Anabasis dropped on Ethiopia.

Just because you have not heard that BS, doesn't mean they don't think that way or say those things behind your back.

(02-07-2017 04:07 AM)262 Wrote:  If psychology always works, why can't we convince all guys to learn Game?

After all, Game saves lives.

Logistical barrier? Not seeing that - Internet.

We don't have the psychological tools? But then we're only theorizing that psychology always works.

Because the guys dont believe that it works. Anytime I bring this kind of stuff up to guys who aren't in the game (which is rare).

They think its "try hard" or its too much effort and a bunch of other excuses as to why not to do it. They settle for mediocre lives and mediocre broads while I tend to do better than all of them. They just don't know any better.

Most of it is that guys dont want to put in the work. They all want the best girls but don't want to do whatever is required to get there.... "Man you are lucky"

Motherfucker I am not lucky...

Haha. WIA been reading your posts and Nigerians pop up every now and then. Did you bag a Naija (as RudeBwoy'd say) broad FOB??

Wassup with that bro;-).

Haha. Ugandan yes, Naija - not yet.

But as a "Yankee" you're swimming up river when it comes to the typical professional African woman.

There is no Mandingo mystique when the woman is from the continent, lol.

And like we've said on the Sikh/Indian girls, real African women that live in America are essentially locked off foreigners. So "stealth" is what you need.

To tie this back to this discussion, if you can give a chick a way to taste the chocolate/vanilla/rainbow and she can get in and out without any issues - both socially and emotionally - you'll bangs from those girls that will only kiss you, will only stare at you.

It's a holistic approach.

WIA

@Kirdiesel

When I travel, That has been my impression of non Americans.

I'm a white collar over educated black guy here, and that demographic cuts against me in many situations, and for me in a few.

Abroad? the second I speak, I'm an American

I think for a lot of men, moving to a new place and having the society treat you as a person is POWERFUL.

WIA

Ana's Ethiopian data sheet moved it up the list for me.

But that airfare...

WIA

Somebody needs to create an app so these chicks can get an anonymous NSA taste of the BBC and keep it moving. I bet it'd pop lol!!

it's funny bc when I tell a girl invites me out and I say I'm busy, she's texting me more often...

be the one saying that you don't like PDA.

I was incognegro in college lol just by nature...never realized the effect I was having on these broads

(02-07-2017 01:14 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  @Kirdiesel

When I travel, That has been my impression of non Americans.

I'm a white collar over educated black guy here, and that demographic cuts against me in many situations, and for me in a few.

Abroad? the second I speak, I'm an American

I think for a lot of men, moving to a new place and having the society treat you as a person is POWERFUL.

WIA

That's one reason I am still over here.... I love being treated as an American instead of as a black guy. It is noticed of course and of course some girls are not down with it but its not really brought up often at all.

That being said even though I had failed on that big titty sister I mentioned a couple pages back I am having increased success here over 2016 so far without even implementing strategies from my game goals.

What changed:

Fashion - I used to suit up alot when going out and I completely cut that out. I dress more hardcore/edgy. All black often.. with leather jackets, ripped jeans, black boots, snapbacks and the like. Its not my favorite style (i prefer to suit up) but if it works so be it.... girls like that fucking bad boy bullshit.

Attitude - I have increased aggression (opening more girls) and increased display of confidence when dealing with women. I fully play into the image now. Staring into their eyes while walking by in the club. Stronger frame and better body language.. not showing too much interest at first at all..

Last Saturday I got a solid number close at the club (couldnt pull her home easily.. but i got a solid date setup next week) and on the way home I ran into a girl I knew while I was getting pizza. I had smashed her before and I was able to re game her on the spot and smash her again that same night/morning at 7am..

2017... So far so good. Hope it keeps going and I can get that girl I really want.

(02-07-2017 08:29 AM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  On the game tip, lots of public displays of affection make private expressions of lust harder, because you're basically deflating the balloon/releasing the sexual tension.

In that situation - where you've established mutual sexual attraction, and you're in that trust build phase, you come at the clueless white chick by raising the taboo factor.

*Change your tone*(because body language is more powerful than verbal language), like you're letting her in on a secret.

"Fuck no would I have an open relationship with a white girl, are you crazy? Like a regular normal white girl?

The truth is. Most white girls use me for sex.

It's because they know that they can't fall in love with me, that they can actually fuck the way they truly want to fuck. They don't need to pretend like they do with white boys.

Never met a girl that didn't love black dick. Or like they say it, black cock. The chicks that do fall in love, I have to school them on why we can't be a couple"

Tell a bitch that she can't bring no black baby back home to her parents, and Caitlin will stoke her own fires.

Tell her about the time you fucked her and her curious roomie.

"There's a girl at this very party that I made squirt for the first time, but I can't violate her like that.

A black man can have as many white girls as he wants, as long as he's discrete.

Tell her about fucking a chick Thursday and seeing her with her boyfriend Friday.

I do really need to tone down the public displays of affection. I get a tremendous number of makeouts in his city with buzzed white girls out on the town, but my conversion rate is far lower than I’d like. I think you’ve perfectly articulated why. The sexual tension is being deflated and I’m also not being as discrete as they would like (creating discomfort, which =/= rapport in the longer term).

I think what you wrote also highlights my more general problem: I’m too used to acting like the boyfriend she meets on Friday, not the guy she fucked on Thursday.

I never really grew up with a lot of game. I was raised in a white town with nothing but white people and no real connection at all to any part of black culture that could “put me on game”, so to speak. I’ve written in here about this before, most of you know the deal.

Because of this, I always viewed the game through a lens that really was more fitting for the white kids I grew up with, not me. I grew up without really perceiving a real difference between me and them. It was really only in college that I learned things had to be different for me because, like it or not, black men cannot approach the game the way white men do here. Race always comes first when it comes to how one is perceived by others – it doesn’t really matter who you are.

The last few years have been a struggle to re-orient my perspective to more closely match what you’ve written here (less “boyfriend” and more “taboo discrete experience”). It’s been extremely difficult, though, because I’m not sure how naturally it comes to me. I need to raise the taboo factor to be successful because of my race, but I don’t know how to do that because I’ve spent so much time viewing myself as the opposite of taboo.

There’s also a piece of me that reflexively resists the taboo aspect and even gets offended by its existence. There’s still a piece of me that’s offended by the fact that many of these girls would only engage with me in a discrete context and only really with a focus on sex and nothing else. I hate the fact that the idea of bringing my child home is so much more problematic than bringing a white, mestizo, or even Eurasian baby home. It still bothers me that I’m viewed so differently from my non-black peers who, from what I can tell, don’t have anything over me intellectually, physically, etc, but seem to be viewed totally differently regardless.

After all that time spent thinking there was no difference between me any other guy of any other race, I still feel this nagging need to be treated more…I dunno…equally? Like a person and not a novel toy to be enjoyed discreetly? It’s a hard mentality to kill and it definitely inhibits my ability to really invest in/play up the taboo factor the way I need to in order to succeed here.

But, like it or not, this is how things are. It doesn’t really matter what I do – the degrees I earn, the diction I use, the knowledge I build, the career I create, the money I make – at the end of the day, they’ll always view me through that racial lens with all of the presumptions that come with it (keep it discrete, sexual focus only, etc, etc) and I’ll have to cope and wrestle with those during the trust-build phase before I’m seen as anything more. I’m a buck/novel toy until proven otherwise. That’s just the nature of the game here in the States.

Quote: The downside to "race play" is that it's exhausting on some levels. It's never that you can't pull, it's do you have the desire/energy to deal with the aftermath.

Exactly. There’s an increasingly loud voice in my head these day telling me that this game and the “prizes” I’m working for (American white girls) might not be worth all of this effort.

As you said:

Quote:I think for a lot of men, moving to a new place and having the society treat you as a person is POWERFUL.

Why work so hard to be with people who see you as black experiment/discrete novelty first and an actual person second (if even that)?

It's a balance between not going after what you want without being thirsty...

It's like you basically need to show up, interact, but be skeptical about these broads. Like you can't say you like em, until they say they like you.

Where have I read that before?

Lol.

To a thinking man, game is very intuitive.

WIA

@Excelsior - don't be hard on yourself.

I am probably twice your age and still have to deal with the same BS, that is just the name of the game. Canada maybe not as hardcore as America, but people have the same ideas about black men.

People in general don't know how to handle a black man that doesn't fit into the stereotype.

I don't want to offend anyone, white women aren't the prize. You are the prize, you are educated, eloquent and have a great future ahead of you.

If people are going to make assumptions based on your skin colour, so be it. You cannot change their opinions.