Yo. I'm 70 pages into "Black Passengers, Yellow Cabs". What a book. Defines black guy gaming in a foreign land. It's about a Jamaican who went to Japan treat his yellow fever.This dude lost his virginity at 7.

I'm off to Nairobi -with my mum (Kenyan)- at the end of March, so ill put a travel sheet in early April.

TDK

(02-02-2017 04:42 PM)thedarkknight Wrote:  Yo. I'm 70 pages into "Black Passengers, Yellow Cabs". What a book. Defines black guy gaming in a foreign land. It's about a Jamaican who went to Japan treat his yellow fever.This dude lost his virginity at 7.

I'm off to Nairobi -with my mum (Kenyan)- at the end of March, so ill put a travel sheet in early April.

TDK

Thanks for sharing. I just ordered that joint on Amazon for like $4 used. It's got some solid reviews!

Just a quick question.

Any of you playa's banged out a Sikh gal? (Indian)

I have had a few nice ones on my shit, but it is never straight forward dealing with them.

(02-02-2017 04:42 PM)thedarkknight Wrote:  Yo. I'm 70 pages into "Black Passengers, Yellow Cabs". What a book. Defines black guy gaming in a foreign land. It's about a Jamaican who went to Japan treat his yellow fever.This dude lost his virginity at 7.

I'm off to Nairobi -with my mum (Kenyan)- at the end of March, so ill put a travel sheet in early April.

TDK

2 of my UK buddies were there in the late 90s and regretted leaving.

One said he was swimming in tail, he met a gorgeous japanese girl there but she convinced him that they should move back to the UK.

She has an ulterior motive it seemed, to leave Japan.

Desi, not Sikh.

(Non LA) Persian level of immaturity and status hunting. Woman child with tits and a 401k

WIA

Good Succinct read based on the Art of Seduction

http://www.businessinsider.com/how-to-in...uffer/#-24

(02-01-2017 01:13 PM)MY DETROIT PLAYAS Wrote:  The bigger issue is not to buy into her frame

There was something that made her meet up w/you in the 1st place, so next time don't feel the need to whip out your ghetto card. I know you are already aware of this, but even as a self-aware man when a bird questions your authenticity it can throw you for a milli-second.

If anything by playing the 'blacker than thou' game she is only disqualifying herself.

How do you guys deal with this issue? If you interact with enough people you quickly learn that looks can be deceiving. The hard-looking thug you see walking down the street may actually be a really nice guy that volunteers his weekends at the homeless shelter. But from my experience women don't seem to evaluate character in that same way. If you have a certain look a girl can get stuck on that impression despite other factors. When i find a girl has the wrong impression of me, I try to just ignore her opinion and never correct it. Although at times i find it annoying when I'm misinterpreted, I've found trying to show her your true self decreases her attraction for some reason. It reminds me of an old Roosh post about how whenever he tried to demonstrate the personal qualities that he valued in himself, it never helped him in attracting women. Rather, I just try to redirect the attention on her and get her trying to validate herself instead. Is this the right course of action or is there a more all-encompassing approach?

I like this.

(02-03-2017 08:34 AM)Wala Wrote:  How do you guys deal with this issue? If you interact with enough people you quickly learn that looks can be deceiving. The hard-looking thug you see walking down the street may actually be a really nice guy that volunteers his weekends at the homeless shelter. But from my experience women don't seem to evaluate character in that same way. If you have a certain look a girl can get stuck on that impression despite other factors. When i find a girl has the wrong impression of me, I try to just ignore her opinion and never correct it. Although at times i find it annoying when I'm misinterpreted, I've found trying to show her your true self decreases her attraction for some reason. It reminds me of an old Roosh post about how whenever he tried to demonstrate the personal qualities that he valued in himself, it never helped him in attracting women. Rather, I just try to redirect the attention on her and get her trying to validate herself instead. Is this the right course of action or is there a more all-encompassing approach?

Sounds like you answered your own question, however you raise an interesting point. Are women more susceptible to static first impressions than men??
I guess that's why they say you only get one shot at a 1st impression and why women know within X amount of seconds whether she'll phuck you or not.
Personally, I'm through trying to impress hoes, I'm to the point where either she gets me or not. If not, then I'm not wasting more of my precious time only to have this bish go radio silent on me.


On another point. I've determined that you really need to go through 100 bishes to find a solidly decent one. That said, I'm on a 100-bish crusade. I began jotting notes and will compile a data sheet when I'm done with the 100th one!

@Wala

Two ways to play it

1) be yourself, and be ruthless with your dismissal.
a) doesn't waste your time
b) showing backbone, not putting up with her bs can turn some women on

2) she's full of shit and doesn't really know what's good for her. So feed her French fries.

Give her what she wants, to get what you want.
But one of the overarching themes of game is that every thing she gets, she has to give you something first.

Chicks are DANGEROUS, but not like a snake, more like advertising or the constant playing of a song on the radio.

Hate it at first, and then like it through repetition.

WIA

Bless you for this.

I've realized part of why I still have beta tendencies is because I have yet to be "burned" enough.

(02-03-2017 11:49 AM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  @Wala

Two ways to play it

1) be yourself, and be ruthless with your dismissal.
a) doesn't waste your time
b) showing backbone, not putting up with her bs can turn some women on

2) she's full of shit and doesn't really know what's good for her. So feed her French fries.

I feel like #2 is a preface for #1 and that they are both the same step. I say that because I feel like that should be a general understanding about women. Like WIA pointed out she doesnt know what she wants and you need to always remember that women don't know what they want and they don't know what other women want....unless they are a dyke ass rug muncher







Your look is important no matter how much of a fuck you don't give. If i dress like a homeless guy the girl will never see that im black tony stark. Also if I dress like black tony stark and act like a bum she's going to next me. With myself over the years the more aligned the two are the more well received I am. The ONLY thing that circumvented this lack of alignment was going out with famous people where you can dress casual as fuck and still pull top notch girls.

With that said be yourself but dress in a way that who you are/who you are trying to become and what you say are congruent. If you get those two lined up and then execute #1 shit should clear up.

The way I dress is now my style aligns great with my personality. A girl can take one look at me and be interested; when I open my mouth she's now excited to meet me because I am who I say I am/who I dress like. Plus I'm a tall ass black dude which screams "Threat" to non -black girls especially the snow bunnies. I wanted to find away around that without me having to say anything--gotta remember comfort is a huge part of a girl not thinking you're an axe swinging rapist and choosing to go home with you. I managed too kill a lot of problems simply by changing how I dressed. I still wear shit I like to wear I just took all the advice out there on stepping up my style as a player and molded it to my liking.

My bad if this post seems scatterbrained or repetitive I kind of had a revelation half way through it and tried to make it flow better.

I was revisiting Mark Manson's models a few minutes ago.

A lot of game in recent years is about self improvement.

But "real black man" game (peep the quotes - just using them for emphasis), is about her mind - not about his stuff.

We typically do not focus so much on the traditional signals, like power/wealth/status/fame. And that's because the history of this country, the Caribbean, and a lot of Africa under colonialism has been that it's very difficult (illegal in some cases, deadly in others) to achieve those things.

Nor does it focus on physical factors like height, muscles, and good looks. Good looks you can't do anything about. Height and/or Muscles is 1/2 of a black club.



^lol, I'm cheating with this pic though.

So that only left 3 real avenues

1) What you wear

2) Your ability to cut a rug (dance) - (not just drawing attention to yourself, not just being able to grind up on a gyal's back side, but your ability to lead her rhythmically)

3) What you say.

#1 is basically how a lot of style gets invented, and why in general we tend to match colors better, and know that we need to even match colors. I was at the grocery store today and saw this Bladerunner looking brother - and that got me thinking how fashion forward a rank and file brother can be.

#2 is basically open to all, you just have to put in the work to look good at it. And for you guys dating non-black chicks - just being able to stay on beat, and keep her on beat is more than enough

#3 - is the most durable and universal.

What you say, says something about your own behavior and code, but it also speaks to how she thinks, feels, and behaves.

WIA

I definitely agree. We've had to make up for where we've been traditionally held back. This why I feel Black men are viewed as such a threat to traditional power structures. "If these people can make something out of nothing, they'd probably make everything out of something."

I went out last night for the first time in a long time. I don't drink, so I sipped a refillable Diet Coke all night and kicked it with a potna and some platonic chick he was with.

I conversed with a chick I knew, her friend, and some super tall 6'4" thick redbone but didn't pull anything. I couldn't help but to question my "game" after leaving empty handed and alone.

The old me would've number closed or venue bounced the gargantuan redbone, but the contemporary me is like, this bish has three kids (one of em was a 2 y.o.), drinks like a fish, and looks like a circus freak. Why should I even bother wasting my time. I was analytical af, but night-gaming sober leaves me no choice, lol.

Normally, I don't pay any mind to other men in the spot, even if they're all 6'8" ball player looking dudes pulling up in Lambos, but last night was such a sausage fest, I couldn't help but notice how packed it was with seemingly good looking gents all pathetically waiting to get chose by the extremely small pool of decent looking women.
It reminded me of how I loathed being single and being on the meat market like every other cat in the spot. This alone, had me putting up with a shit LTR just to avoid this.
I can't stand trying to talk to a bish over loud ass ear splitting music plus my dance floor game ain't where it needs to be to overcome this. Yes, I can dress my ass off, but that alone wasn't enough to give me an advantage.

All that said, I don't think night-game is my thing anymore. I'm going to rely heavily on day, social/professional and networking game.

Have nothing going on tonight, which is sad since it's a Saturday. I could go out solo, but I have no foundation without someone to go with. I really need to build up a bar troupe again.

No one's snapping me on the dating apps like OKC or Tinder, either.

HA my boy oak!!
ATX in the building!

(02-04-2017 08:55 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

(02-02-2017 05:03 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  Just a quick question.

Any of you playa's banged out a Sikh gal? (Indian)

I have had a few nice ones on my shit, but it is never straight forward dealing with them.

Two, dated one for a month or so.
Sweeping generalizations - Sikh people as a whole tend to be more gregarious and outgoing than southerners, but there is usually significant pressure to marry into their own community or w Punjabi Hindus. By and large, mixed race relations are frowned upon, and if it is inevitable, white people are strongly preferred. Many sikh women tend to be thin and nice pre-marriage, and then metamorphosize into female Snorlaxes. A large % of women tend to be status/class whores, and it might be advantageous playing to that. Also, they're probably going to be...hairier. Regardless, sikh people will possibly be some of nicest and most generous people you'll meet unless you make it apparent that you want to bang their daughters, sisters or mothers(unlikely). Also very savvy businessfolk.

Weirdly enough a large% of sikh women that Ive spoken to seemed to fetishize turbans and beards -- perhaps its in line the whole theory where women prefer someone in the image of their father (lookswise or behaviorally) if they had a strong relationship with their father and vice versa, or maybe it was just a cultural/upbringing effect. Either way, this was interesting because a few other Indian women Ive interacted with tended to slightly dislikehuge beards and often, turbans.

Ninja edit - Younger sikh men tend to be much fitter and larger than other parts of the country, and Sikhism is a "warrior" religion or something. So the muscles/size angle might also be viable (although its mostly Sikh men who harp on about their size and fitness).

Dimebait? What's your dress game like.

I went out last night in Atlanta and bar hopped several different venues. Was able to get a lot of numbers but didn't seal any deals. For me getting a number doesn't mean anything. If I wasn't able to kiss close or smash a girl on the first night then I don't even want to go through the whole text and dating game. Not worth my time.

(02-05-2017 11:27 AM)NewDayNewFace Wrote:  If I wasn't able to kiss close or smash a girl on the first night then I don't even want to go through the whole text and dating game. Not worth my time.

Even if it would only take an hour at a bar to have her ready to do the no pants dance?
You do other fun stuff I'm sure what about just inviting her out to join you and escalating there?

Logistics are bad for me now. I do IT consulting and the contract I'm on now doesn't provide me a house so I'm staying with my parents that live around 30 minutes away from the city. So pretty much from Monday-Thursday I go to work and try to leave work early to beat the traffic. After work I'm probably in the gym if not relaxing.

On the weekend though I truly live by new day new face name. I'm looking for a new face to kick it with.

This will change in two months because the next hospital Im working for will provide housing.

I lived with my parents 30 minutes from the city for a year as well. You run game as usual and just try to get to her place.

"Hey can I use ur bathroom"
"Can I get some water for a sec before I drive home"

As long as it has plausible deniability its a good excuse for her to invite you up.

(02-02-2017 05:03 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  Just a quick question.

Any of you playa's banged out a Sikh gal? (Indian)

I have had a few nice ones on my shit, but it is never straight forward dealing with them.

Everything surrounding it I have run through: Bangladesh, Pakistan, Sri Lankan, Nepal, but not yet India.

One notch was a Tamil and technically Indian, but I don't want to count it, technically I could, but for formality reasons I wont.

I have just had bad luck closing it with girls from India. It has been close, twice the broads were on their rags and we just fooled around, the rest of the times it just fell through either with logistics or not being able to shake off her friend. But the ability to at least get close just reminds me there is something there. There is always games and hoops they put you through, but its seems once you dodge all the games they just turn into massive sluts, very quickly, low key. I find it goes from 0-to-dick in her mouth, very quickly if you break her shield lol. I really don't want to get graphic here with the details but I just don't get how these Indian broads all about sucking dick but I just can't fuck. I don't know if this is some code they got going on but I have had my dick down numerous Indian girls throats. If men could eject seeds I would have trees all over the GTA from broads who have stomached my loads.

I don't get the sense these girls ever want to chill and actually get to know me though. We both get the idea that this is going to be a quick and mutual fun type of thing and more or less just go off that. I show these girls a good time. It is either girls still in University, or established career girls. The girls with the good jobs all got money so it is likely a life-setting thing as I am still coming up. I'll show her a good time but I ain't about trying go on some date to Canoe, so they all down for a good time but they ain't about the wine and dining with me... It is like I am Terrence Ross who can drop 30 for them that night, but they have their eye on DeRozen who is on that All-Star level night to night.... Not like I am complaining though, a win is a win - just like a notch is a notch lol. Lastly, Logistics play a role as well as lot of the girls more GTA based and I am downtown.

I have had a few broads get obsessed about me but they maybe weren't as hot as I wanted to keep me interested. The work uniforms did not make any of us look good, all had a little booty though. First girl I work with got a man but she is obsessed with me. Her dude is cool so outta respect I don't really dig into her, but I could easily swoop it. These ethnic girls got delayed in learning 'Girl Game' because she is goofy/immature like broads in HS around me. She might as well draw me heart letters or some shit, it is quite pathetic; but lots of these ethnic girls didn't even start dating dudes still they got into University and away from the parents. The next girl, again from work. Her face was amazing. I would get lost in her light brown eyes but her body was just a tad soft for what I really like. The flirting back and forth was obvious though, I got called out on it by my boys at work. I did run into her at Baby Huey a few months after she quit. Things got crazy that night but her friend cock-blocked it hard and took her back to Mississauga first chance she could break her away from me. If that chic just hit Goodlife Fitness for 1-2 months she would of been on point. Oh well.

I don't know enough about the various groups to know the quirks among a Sikh, versus a Punjab or anything like that. It is just a numbers game to me as the more chill ones I can get into my orbit I just throw what I got at them and see if it works. Only thing I notice is that there has to be NO Indian dudes around. It has to be her and her girl, or a gang of her broads. Any dudes around and she will get ice cold.

The one thing I do notice is that if I ever made a trip to the UK I would be drowning in Indian girls. Just based off Tinder, and the girls I meet and have fooled round with who travel around... literally.. on another level... British-Indian girls. All are chill as hell and they are very much open and about men of dark complexion aka us brothers. You spent enough time there so you likely know this better than me. The more Canadian-zed ones from Vancouver are really chill as well. Some have a major princess complex but the moment I get that vibe I don't continue the interaction. If she is curious or into you she will give you a opening to run game, even if she is just gearing up to drop a bunch of shit tests.

I would gauge what type of setting you all met and what type of settings you are interacting in now. I can only speak on my own experiences, but as I mentioned above, the girls never viewed me as long term option so I always just pushed for the fun angle to get it in quick. That has indeed failed me a few times with South Asian girls but it was both Sri Lankan broads, not Indian, that were not down with my heavy handed approach and wanted to slow things down.

(02-06-2017 01:10 AM)kosko Wrote:  These ethnic girls got delayed in learning 'Girl Game' because she is goofy/immature like broads in HS around me. She might as well draw me heart letters or some shit, it is quite pathetic; but lots of these ethnic girls didn't even start dating dudes still they got into University and away from the parents.

(02-06-2017 01:10 AM)kosko Wrote:  Only thing I notice is that there has to be NO Indian dudes around. It has to be her and her girl, or a gang of her broads. Any dudes around and she will get ice cold.

My experience EXACTLY.

Fresh off the Boat Asians, Muslims, Persians, Armenians, Indians - if the chick is ethnic and sheltered - she's on some fairy tale shit.

And to get with any chick that's identifiably "exotic" - her hating ass boys can't be in the picture.

WIA

@Kosko - your post is so on the money I would rep you again if I could.

I love the part about these girls aren't trying to be seen in public with you, that applies to a lot of girls. I know some black guys get bent out of shape about this, I couldn't care less.

I have had the career type be into me at one of my gigs, almost losing her shirt as I sat in a meeting with another girl one-on-one. The same girl had a boyfriend, maybe a weak shit test. Being at the workplace, I tend to keep it very cool. I've had a bad experience in the past with this sort of thing.

The latest one is a barista at you know where, the body is to my liking. She has those crazy eyes, which could mean a lot of things.

Long overdue datasheet on Ethiopia.

https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-61088.html