Post: #1676

(01-08-2017 10:57 AM)iknowexactly Wrote:  

(01-07-2017 07:38 AM)Going strong Wrote:  

(01-07-2017 06:16 AM)_Dumb_Genius Wrote:  It's going to take me 18-23 years to get to SEA ......... I also think about busting my ass in this job for 18-23 years and it feels so damned daunting..

Well, you should find a way to earn money faster (and legally), at all costs, and jump on a plane within a couple of years... Because 20 years from now, in what shape will you be, plus, how many "poosy paradises" do you think will exist in 20 years? Certainly not Thailand, which already is, say, 75% done (unless you speak the language)... I mean, where will you have to travel to, in 20 years, to find age-difference-accepting countries? RDC, Haiti, and that's about it.

Beater car, cheap apartment, save as much as you can into conservative DIVIDEND GROWTH stocks like nursing homes (OHI), Proctor and Gamble ( I found their detergent in every tiny grocery store in Philippines, McDs was always busy there) tobacco companies if you can stand the guilt, maybe rental apartments.....Forget the doomsayers and never sell unless the company cuts the dividend.

They let you retire at 65 because most people really are out of vitality at that point.

Don't wait until then. You can live OK in SE Asia for maybe $1200/mo if you give up some luxury. What is a more important luxury than slim 19 year old girls who will cook and clean for you?

Look at Johnson and Johnson's dividend growth for 53 years. People say "Oh the dollar will collapse ...Muslim wars... blah blah blah". But can they show any accomplishment that makes you think they are smarter than the collective intelligence of JNJ?

The chart below isn't opinion--it's real money that got distributed.

It's very important when you're young and impressionable to differentiate between
--what book-selling doomsayers say "must happen" (unless someone buys their book or gold etc.)
-- What has happened, and IS actually happening in the real world.

That's a good one, and a valid theory. But at $116 per share (a stock chart which follows that dividend curve almost exactly), that's also an expensive stock to have to buy a quantity large enough to have any appreciable dividends, even more so if he's trying to pick a basket of other similar stocks.

No idea what anyone's financial picture is, but a small investor might be better off with a targeted fund using the same demographic/core product lines you are suggesting. Need to watch for expense ratios in actively managed funds, but they can be easier to get a foothold while also spreading risk a bit. Yes, even JNJ has risks (product recalls, currency risk, etc.)

Doomsaying aside, it's easy to be a hero in a bull market and we've been in one since March 2009. We are due for a correction.

Post: #1677

_Dumb_Genius I see what you mean about the overweight. I had a similar situation 3 years ago. When you are not motivated and after a loss, it is 300% more dificult, however.....
Start taking care of your body, no need to tell what, deep inside you know. The good things is that the same momentum that put you in that situation, can take you out. The first day is the worst to start eating well and exercise, but days later you will have the need to do it. that's how it works.

If cannot pay gym fee, do YouTube videos.
Take vitamins, get some sun light, listen motivational speaches, get free Internet courses for a new job. Later when you have some more income, you can explore other options like going to the gym, get a Test replacement terapy and things like that.

Girls have a sixth sense and detect when man are going through those changes, and they will start going more friendly on you. I know, you have heard of this probably 1000's times, but seeing myself 3 years ago like you, I can't but giving you the advise one more time... I turned 42 and last year was the best in my life, and did things with girls that I tought were imposible when I was 18, with no wrinkles and 10% less body fat .

Post: #1678

(01-08-2017 06:24 PM)SlickyBoy Wrote:  

(01-08-2017 10:57 AM)iknowexactly Wrote:  

(01-07-2017 07:38 AM)Going strong Wrote:  

(01-07-2017 06:16 AM)_Dumb_Genius Wrote:  It's going to take me 18-23 years to get to SEA ......... I also think about busting my ass in this job for 18-23 years and it feels so damned daunting..

Well, you should find a way to earn money faster (and legally), at all costs, and jump on a plane within a couple of years...

Beater car, cheap apartment, save as much as you can into conservative DIVIDEND GROWTH
They let you retire at 65 because most people really are out of vitality at that point.

Don't wait until then. You can live OK in SE Asia for maybe $1200/mo if you give up some luxury. What is a more important luxury than slim 19 year old girls who will cook and clean for you?

Look at Johnson and Johnson's dividend growth for 53 years. People say "Oh the dollar will collapse ...Muslim wars... blah blah blah". But can they show any accomplishment that makes you think they are smarter than the collective intelligence of JNJ?

The chart below isn't opinion--it's real money that got distributed.

It's very important when you're young and impressionable to differentiate between
--what book-selling doomsayers say "must happen" (unless someone buys their book or gold etc.)
-- What has happened, and IS actually happening in the real world.

That's a good one, and a valid theory. But at $116 per share (a stock chart which that's also an expensive stock to have to buy a quantity large enough to have any appreciable dividends, even more so if he's trying to pick a basket of other similar stocks.

I agree with not putting everything in a 3% dividend stock unless you've got 25 years to do dividend growth. I am investing in nursing home REITS paying over 6%. There's some risk Republicans will demand to kick Grandma out on the street, but the demographics are inexorable.

There's some risk, but if I don't get a higher return as you suggest, I risk GOING BACK TO WORK. That's very, very bad.

But people are talking about options trading here on another thread. This is a pretty sure way to lose money for most people.

OHI, a very big nursing home REIT is paying over 7%, tobacco companies are paying over 4% I think.

The point is to have a coherent plan. If you had invested in JNJ at the very worst time-- 2008-- you'd still be way ahead right now.

Post: #1679

(01-08-2017 12:41 PM)questor70 Wrote:  I think intelligent men and women resent games and yet they go through the motions because they feel that's just how it has to be. So you can bond with women by saying "Look, we can live outside the Matrix!" The paradox is that all gaming is still gaming, even self-reflexive meta-gaming, because it's a matter of starting from the foundation of a guy being attracted enough to a woman to want to move the relationship towards sex. But that advanced level of metaphysics is something that few women are going to reach.

Good point. It takes an exceptional woman to even understand the analytics side of things let alone agree with them, and generally it's just a bore for them anyway. It's also a selection factor; if she were insightful and actually loving that analysis, sadly, she's already by definition more masculine = fail. I have family members like this, which is no problem for me, but looking at it as an outsider it makes me feel bad for them.

It's like a girl talking about sports, thinking you care. Ummm, just shut up. We don't care.

Post: #1680

I disagree. If there's something women love to talk about, it's the unfolding train-wreck of their relationship fails. And why do self-help books sell so much to women? Women are plenty interested in introspection and breaking out of bad patterns, not necessarily because they're smart, but because they are self-absorbed. They just tend not to be very good at reaching any genuine insights or making any actual positive changes.

It's guys who tend to shy away from this stuff in favor of monosyllabic utterances ala King of the Hill.



If you come across as though you actually know something about these topics and you might impress them.

Some of Roosh's suggested "lines" meant to control a woman's hamstering is all along the same lines, it's just that these are canned lines. It would help to actually know something about the human experience. That should be a strength of being 40+, having graduated from the school of hard-knocks.

Post: #1681

(01-10-2017 04:29 PM)questor70 Wrote:  If you come across as though you actually know something about these topics and you might impress them.

No, you'll more than likely come across as an emotional tampon, a la, her gay work friend.

Post: #1682

(01-10-2017 06:11 PM)SlickyBoy Wrote:  

(01-10-2017 04:29 PM)questor70 Wrote:  If you come across as though you actually know something about these topics and you might impress them.

No, you'll more than likely come across as an emotional tampon, a la, her gay work friend.

On average, that was my point. As you even said, questor, if she's absorbed then the topic isn't getting her interested in .... you. 'Nuff said

Post: #1683

(01-10-2017 06:11 PM)SlickyBoy Wrote:  

(01-10-2017 04:29 PM)questor70 Wrote:  If you come across as though you actually know something about these topics and you might impress them.

No, you'll more than likely come across as an emotional tampon, a la, her gay work friend.

Not in my experience...as long as you follow this up with physicality. But then again, I'm exclusive to online dating and do not do clubs / cold-approaches.

Post: #1684

It's possible, I won't rule it out. More power to you.

Post: #1685

Dumb Genius, what did these women look like that were talking about men needing viagra? I have a similar mojo to what I did at 20, its better now though as getting sex was all I ever used to think about.

Anyway I would need Viagra to be able to fuck most 40 + women, I did fuck a 45 year old last year, it really turned me off and it was hard to get it up. The next time I consider fucking a 40+ women that is not exceptionally well kept will be when Im around 75.

Post: #1686

I think it's natural in a place like this for guys to deny the idea that older men succumb to ED and that not all of it is a byproduct of being saddled with older (i.e. unattractive) women. I just don't buy these excuses, though. There's some attrition here. A 40+ guy who remains fully operational (as the Emperor might say) is at a clear demographic advantage over his peers.



Standard red-pill logic says that women hit the wall by 35. But this flies in the face of the MILF/Cougar phenomenon. Now, if PUAs want to just write them off completely in pursuit of younger bangs, that's their prerogative, but it's not necessarily the horror-show that it's so often made out to be.

Post: #1687

I am a 41 year old in shape male. I have been going to the gym regularly since 25 years old with only 1 year off when I was 39. I am still able to have sex two to three times a day with no problems or pills, however I will admit having an attractive person to fuck matters a lot more now than in the past. A fat girl will not get me hard, an ugly girl will not get me hard, only attractive girls get me hard-when I was 14 a slight breeze could get me hard, a shadow shaped like an ass could get me hard, a 45 year old mother of 6 could get me rock hard.

At 40-41 years old I have had sex with a 18 year old, a 32 year old, and a bunch of 22-24 year olds and none of them could handle me, and every single one tapped out. To a woman every single one had to take a break, tap out til later, or promised more sex in the morning but were too sore to continue. I am not special, any man in shape, under 60 and fucking someone attractive should get the same results.

Post: #1688

Depends on what the cougar looks like at 35+

The problem is most of them have mental issues

Post: #1689

(01-13-2017 08:00 PM)Atlanta Man Wrote:  I am a 41 year old in shape male. I have been going to the gym regularly since 25 years old with only 1 year off when I was 39. I am still able to have sex two to three times a day with no problems or pills, however I will admit having an attractive person to fuck matters a lot more now than in the past. A fat girl will not get me hard, an ugly girl will not get me hard, only attractive girls get me hard-when I was 14 a slight breeze could get me hard, a shadow shaped like an ass could get me hard, a 45 year old mother of 6 could get me rock hard.

At 40-41 years old I have had sex with a 18 year old, a 32 year old, and a bunch of 22-24 year olds and none of them could handle me, and every single one tapped out. To a woman every single one had to take a break, tap out til later, or promised more sex in the morning but were too sore to continue. I am not special, any man in shape, under 60 and fucking someone attractive should get the same results.

Totally agree.
When we were young, everything would get me hard.
Also I share a similar experience. I currently spin 2 regular plates (LTR status) and #2 girl usually "passes out" during sex and needs recovery time. #1 girl is usually in better shape but occasionally also needs rest.
I eat healthy and lots of proteins. I noticed a lot of people eating mostly carbs and how they lack energy. That is also a factor.
Also. if you are doing it regularly (4-5 times a week) your body get accustomed to it. If you are not getting any, you probably need to get use to it first.

Post: #1690

(08-14-2008 06:52 PM)GMoney Wrote:  Good question. I just hit 40, and all of a sudden, the "Game' that has worked for me all these years has tanked.

It is probably also a matter of self-fulfilling prophecy.

You believed in it, convinced yourself of it, so you were not positive
nor full of energy in your approaches anymore,
and because of the new vibe, first girls were not friendly and opened.

It may have all started because of your internal beliefs

Post: #1691

(01-13-2017 07:42 PM)questor70 Wrote:  I think it's natural in a place like this for guys to deny the idea that older men succumb to ED and that not all of it is a byproduct of being saddled with older (i.e. unattractive) women. I just don't buy these excuses, though. There's some attrition here. A 40+ guy who remains fully operational (as the Emperor might say) is at a clear demographic advantage over his peers.



Standard red-pill logic says that women hit the wall by 35. But this flies in the face of the MILF/Cougar phenomenon. Now, if PUAs want to just write them off completely in pursuit of younger bangs, that's their prerogative, but it's not necessarily the horror-show that it's so often made out to be.

I guess you could say the wall exists for guys too. I know women in theirs late 30s who have the same complaints about men in their age cohort - fat, out of shape, can't last etc. etc. so they get the hots for younger guys. And I don't think there's nearly as many hot 20-somethings lining up to get with 40+ year old guys either.

But we get to make up for it in other ways - status, game etc. so unless you've totally let yourself go, you can still compensate for the decline in physical attributes with other traits. That's harder to do for women, because men don't care nearly as much about a woman's job etc.

Post: #1692

(01-14-2017 12:50 PM)jselysianeagle Wrote:  

(01-13-2017 07:42 PM)questor70 Wrote:  I think it's natural in a place like this for guys to deny the idea that older men succumb to ED and that not all of it is a byproduct of being saddled with older (i.e. unattractive) women. I just don't buy these excuses, though. There's some attrition here. A 40+ guy who remains fully operational (as the Emperor might say) is at a clear demographic advantage over his peers.



Standard red-pill logic says that women hit the wall by 35. But this flies in the face of the MILF/Cougar phenomenon. Now, if PUAs want to just write them off completely in pursuit of younger bangs, that's their prerogative, but it's not necessarily the horror-show that it's so often made out to be.

I guess you could say the wall exists for guys too. I know women in theirs late 30s who have the same complaints about men in their age cohort - fat, out of shape, can't last etc. etc. so they get the hots for younger guys. And I don't think there's nearly as many hot 20-somethings lining up to get with 40+ year old guys either.

But we get to make up for it in other ways - status, game etc. so unless you've totally let yourself go, you can still compensate for the decline in physical attributes with other traits. That's harder to do for women, because men don't care nearly as much about a woman's job etc.

Also younger guys have been programmed to fuck older chicks more do than in our day.My programming is for young blondes cause thats what was pushed at the time.30 was ancient to me when I was 22.I would not bragged I fucked a 30 year old.Now young blokes seek it out.Especially in the more femininst strong holds.I would not even approach a woman my age here.I met some cool ones overseas though in the US and Europe.
It's major down here but its also an easy lay for the younger dudes..Bullshit younger dudes last longer ,its all about the validation the older birds get and social media bragging rights..Zero skill on their part they just have to wear make up and show up

Post: #1693

@Green-on-go - your post is so on the money.

I have heard of guys in their 30s dating women in their late 50s and older. To me this totally repulsive, but like you said the programming is all messed up. I don't talk to old bags, but my buddy gets a kick out of them. A few have complained because men don't stick around, no matter how much money they have. Of course they think they deserve a serious relationship.

I know guys who have turned 40 and they cannot even comprehend the idea of dating a twenty something girl.

Post: #1694

(01-15-2017 07:10 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  I know guys who have turned 40 and they cannot even comprehend the idea of dating a twenty something girl.

Yeah, I've met a few such guys myself, and I don't understand them. Last night I partied with a 21 yr old and her 25 yr old friend, and I'm 33. At no point did anyone feel like "omg there's such a big age gap between us"...maybe the girls were more mature or I'm just immature lol

I don't know, I think at 40 I'll still be able to feel at ease around 20-somethings, if they're still willing to have me :-D

Post: #1695

(01-15-2017 10:13 PM)jselysianeagle Wrote:  

(01-15-2017 07:10 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  I know guys who have turned 40 and they cannot even comprehend the idea of dating a twenty something girl.

Yeah, I've met a few such guys myself, and I don't understand them. Last night I partied with a 21 yr old and her 25 yr old friend, and I'm 33. At no point did anyone feel like "omg there's such a big age gap between us"...maybe the girls were more mature or I'm just immature lol

I don't know, I think at 40 I'll still be able to feel at ease around 20-somethings, if they're still willing to have me :-D

They will be still willing to have you as long as you're:
1. Not fat
2. Not ugly (or, if ugly, are in great shape)
3. Act your age (not getting trashed or acting immaturely)
4. Are relatively successful (by that, I mean, relatively wealthy)

Post: #1696

As for as gaming younger women is concerned, the most important determinant is your LOCATION. Hard truth, but that is reality.

I'm here in asia. A 21 year old is in my apartment. Is that happening back in the anglosphere...hell no.

Was out last night with another forum guy who is late 30s. We approached two 19 year olds, hung out and got their #s. They didn't even ask our age.

Feminized women are sensitive to even the smallest age gaps. Elsewhere, not so much.

Post: #1697

(01-15-2017 10:13 PM)jselysianeagle Wrote:  

(01-15-2017 07:10 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  I know guys who have turned 40 and they cannot even comprehend the idea of dating a twenty something girl.

Yeah, I've met a few such guys myself, and I don't understand them. Last night I partied with a 21 yr old and her 25 yr old friend, and I'm 33. At no point did anyone feel like "omg there's such a big age gap between us"...maybe the girls were more mature or I'm just immature lol

I don't know, I think at 40 I'll still be able to feel at ease around 20-somethings, if they're still willing to have me :-D

Since Im in my 30s and been following an early 5/6 am wake up schedule its been extremely no no in terms of mind agreeing to go out party all night and try to pick up 20 year olds with that much energy, who can sleep all day.

I dont mind stepping out early in the night and calling early night and bring such a girl home (date or random pickup)... But my early AM sched / workouts get messed up.

How do you plan/ manage?

(01-15-2017 10:35 PM)Kaizen Wrote:  As for as gaming younger women is concerned, the most important determinant is your LOCATION. Hard truth, but that is reality.

I'm here in asia. A 21 year old is in my apartment. Is that happening back in the anglosphere...hell no.

Was out last night with another forum guy who is late 30s. We approached two 19 year olds, hung out and got their #s. They didn't even ask our age.

Feminized women are sensitive to even the smallest age gaps. Elsewhere, not so much.

Which City? and what kind of Location logistics in terms of talking to these chicas?

I find most of these girl are usually with big groups of fellows and girls and very high ADD.. add to that loud clubs where I can barely even hear myself..
so SHARP INTELLECTUAL game may be harder.. So is it more Energy/ Fun/ Kino based only?

Post: #1698

I sometime hit on 20s, most of the time with less success.
I have a friend who cannot see himself with young girls (he is in his forties). Most of the people I encounter also have a hard time grasping the concept.

It is only mindset.

Post: #1699

(01-15-2017 10:27 PM)Lance Blastoff Wrote:  

(01-15-2017 10:13 PM)jselysianeagle Wrote:  

(01-15-2017 07:10 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  I know guys who have turned 40 and they cannot even comprehend the idea of dating a twenty something girl.

Yeah, I've met a few such guys myself, and I don't understand them. Last night I partied with a 21 yr old and her 25 yr old friend, and I'm 33. At no point did anyone feel like "omg there's such a big age gap between us"...maybe the girls were more mature or I'm just immature lol

I don't know, I think at 40 I'll still be able to feel at ease around 20-somethings, if they're still willing to have me :-D

They will be still willing to have you as long as you're:
1. Not fat
2. Not ugly (or, if ugly, are in great shape)
3. Act your age (not getting trashed or acting immaturely)
4. Are relatively successful (by that, I mean, relatively wealthy)

I agree with the first 3, not 4.

I have seen too many examples that make me think otherwise.

Having a cool vibe, goes along way.

Post: #1700

(01-16-2017 07:55 AM)xmlenigma Wrote:  Since Im in my 30s and been following an early 5/6 am wake up schedule its been extremely no no in terms of mind agreeing to go out party all night and try to pick up 20 year olds with that much energy, who can sleep all day.

I dont mind stepping out early in the night and calling early night and bring such a girl home (date or random pickup)... But my early AM sched / workouts get messed up.

How do you plan/ manage?

Oh this was a one off. I don't often go to clubs and party till 4 am...and I sleep in on weekends until late morning anyway. I work out in the evenings usually.