There is no such thing as peaceful in the old days. Islam was just written in a more smart way. You said taqiyah, you nailed it. We actually call it Darul-ul-Harp, it basically means lands which are controlled by infidels. In lands which are controlled by infidels everything is permitted in order to spread jihad. You can pose as a christian, you can eat pork, you can gamble. Hiding your real identity is permitted until the majority of the population becomes Muslim and Sharia is declared.

This is how the gulenists infiltrated into all key state instititions in Turkey, their goal was to declare Sharia in the end and make Fetullah Gulen the supreme leader. They saw Turkey as darul-ul-harp territory because it was a secular country. There are many gulenists who drink gamble smoke commit adultery etc in order to hide their real agenda.

I'm not an Islam apologist. Far from one. The last time I visited the mosque was who knows when.

But you can think that I'm acting because this forum is Darul-ul-Harp
Then you have a very valid point

I understand why people are paranoid as fuck here, because Darul-ul-harp is a scary concept I agree. It basically says defer until you gain majority.

(12-26-2016 02:02 PM)LikeABaller Wrote:  Of course they're going to have a hard time adapting. A very hard time.

Everyone here knows that the majority of them don't even want to adapt, why you would even mention difficulty is beyond me.

Adapting could take little less than a month and they still wouldn't do it, instead preferring to spend generation after generation slowly converting it to their own purposes - as encouraged by their peers and never discouraged by their hosts.

Imagine you're coding a computer virus. You want it to spread as quickly as possible, what type of virus would you use. One which fools the antivirus into thinking its a friendly file right?
Preferably one which will pose as a .jpg instead of an .exe

When you see religions as piece of code you'll see Islam is the most superior one if your intention is to spread it as fast as possible.

Now you can call it barbaric, cruel etc, but you are taking sides when coming to these assumptions. Just see it as a piece of code, a virus.

(12-26-2016 03:04 PM)LikeABaller Wrote:  Imagine your coding a computer virus. You want it to spread as quickly as possible, what type of virus would you use. One which fools the antivirus into thinking its a friendly file right?
Preferably one which will pose as a .jpg instead of an .exe

When you see religions as piece of code you'll see Islam is the most superior one if your intention is to spread it as fast as possible.

Now you can call it barbaric, cruel etc, but you are taking sides when coming to these assumptions. Just see it as a piece of code, a virus.

I believe I speak for everyone when I say we can acknowledge this metaphor of our own accord, so stating it is redundant. But what is your point, that we are supposed to give Islam it's due credit? Does one make a round of applause when their computer is attacked with a virus, or do they curse it?

Feel free to make an analogy about western civilisation bringing the virus to their own computer as if we were browsing porn websites, however a more accurate analogy would be that we buy a computer and 3 years later it starts browsing porn of it's own accord. And then when we try to throw the computer [Government] out the window it's already affected the rest of the house appliances [Other politicians]

Then you send your whole study and kitchen back on recall, only to find that every manufacturer [Educational system] has been cutting costs [badly educating] and the staff [residents] only build defective products [become misguided] as a result.

(12-26-2016 03:13 PM)AntiMediocrity Wrote:  

(12-26-2016 03:04 PM)LikeABaller Wrote:  Imagine your coding a computer virus. You want it to spread as quickly as possible, what type of virus would you use. One which fools the antivirus into thinking its a friendly file right?
Preferably one which will pose as a .jpg instead of an .exe

When you see religions as piece of code you'll see Islam is the most superior one if your intention is to spread it as fast as possible.

Now you can call it barbaric, cruel etc, but you are taking sides when coming to these assumptions. Just see it as a piece of code, a virus.

I believe I speak for everyone when I say we can acknowledge this metaphor of our own accord, so stating it is redundant. But what is your point, that we are supposed to give Islam it's due credit? Does one make a round of applause when their computer is attacked with a virus, or do they curse it?

Feel free to make an analogy about western civilisation bringing the virus to their own computer as if we were browsing porn websites, however a more accurate analogy would be that we buy a computer and 3 years later it starts browsing porn of it's own accord. And then when we try to throw the computer out the window it's already affected the rest of the house appliances.

I'm saying all religions are a virus.
Islam was just coded in a more superior way, its spreading faster thats why its being called barbaric.

You get the idea.

I'm not a religious person.

But I will raise my kids as religious beings because I don't want them to lose their cultural identity. I actually don't care which religion they'll practice as long as they believe in a superior being. Because Atheism is the fuel of this SJW mess we have right now.

(12-26-2016 03:16 PM)LikeABaller Wrote:  I'm saying all religions are a virus.
Islam was just coded in a more superior way, its spreading faster thats why its being called barbaric.

You get the idea.

I'm not a religious person.

But I will raise my kids as religious beings because I don't want them to lose their cultural identity. I actually don't care which religion they'll practice as long as they believe in a superior being. Because Atheism is the fuel of this SJW mess we have right now.

You're far from ignorant, you're just being deliberately misleading now.

It's barbaric because Islam tells it followers to kill non-Islamic people and tax/enslave/rule Christians and Jews, not because just because it spreads faster.

You're not going to last very long on this forum with this continuous shilling for Islam, deliberately misconstruing everyone's points and then regurgitating the same myths that every SJW preaches.

(12-26-2016 03:16 PM)LikeABaller Wrote:  But I will raise my kids as religious beings because I don't want them to lose their cultural identity. I actually don't care which religion they'll practice as long as they believe in a superior being. Because Atheism is the fuel of this SJW mess we have right now.

Excellent opportunity to convert to something more valuable. But on the other hand you risk death in many countries as an Islamic apostate - at the very least your family in Turkey may shun you.

It is a tough choice, but frankly it would be a wise one.

From the big religions you probably can only pick Orthodox Christianity or Judaism (the latter is tough to join unless you marry a Jewish girl). Though secular Jews will likely accept you.

From the lesser known paths there are plenty of others.

(12-26-2016 03:16 PM)LikeABaller Wrote:  Islam was just coded in a more superior way, its spreading faster thats why its being called barbaric.

While English may not be the first language of some users here, I assure you that everyone knows the difference between barbaric and pervasive. And Islam is not by any means merely pervasive.

We should build big camps for Muslims in the middle east. Saudia Arabia should take their "Brothers of faith". They are good to finance extremist but take not a single one.

(12-26-2016 03:37 PM)Valentine Wrote:  You're not going to last very long on this forum with this continuous shilling for Islam, deliberately misconstruing everyone's points and then regurgitating the same myths that every SJW preaches.

I spent over an hour drafting a long ass post in response to some of the issues many here seem to have dealing with their extended families. Then this guy drops a ton of noise and nobody gets to read it.

Sorry guys - I don't have time to waste and I will no longer contribute to this thread until either he disappears or his ass finally gets banned for trolling. [Are there any moderators left here?]

Quote:Sorry guys - I don't have time to waste and I will no longer contribute to this thread until either he disappears or his ass finally gets banned for trolling. [Are there any moderators left here?]

Many whiny ultimatums have been made on this forum, and none have been met. I definitely won't start with yours.

It's funny, because it's true.

Delete, dupe.

Delete, dupe.

(12-26-2016 01:27 PM)redpillage Wrote:  Okay, to make sense out of all this it's important to understand how easy it is to fall into a myriad of cognitive biases that are part and parcel of being a human being. That applies both to the people you are trying to convert/convince as well as us. Yes, we are all products of our environment but contrary that what most SJWs would want you to believe we are not all created equal.

As (aspiring) alpha males it is most likely that you have learned to employ critical thinking and logic to solve problems. You probably have a reduced proclivity to make decisions on the basis of group consent. You want to be a leader and thus reject other alphas whilst aiming to submit others to your will. Women and beta males however literally think differently. Their reality is defined by external factors, e.g. what they are being told, what is currently in fashion, and in particular what the majority of their peers believe to be true, good, and socially acceptable.

The problem some of you guys seem to be facing is the cognitive bias of expecting other people to be thinking like you, i.e. to be solving problems and/or deciding issues by analyzing a sufficient amount of pertinent data and then to arrive at a (relatively) independent conclusion. Some may call this the scientific method but in essence it's nothing but analytical thinking. However less and less people out there have been trained to do so and the youngest generation is actually being discouraged from making independent assessments.

All that Marxist brainwashing during the early stages of mental development is aimed at rewarding mindless repetition and acceptance of ideological tenets. The goal is NOT to create independent thinkers but to socialize young people into key cultural values. School has long been considered a bridge that acts between the family and wider society. Its role used to promote universal values i.e. achievement, individualism, competition and equality of opportunity, however nowadays those core values have been replaced by obedience, multi-culturalism, feminism, and acceptance of group authority.

The end result of years of systematic indoctrination is what you are observing amongst your own family members. Basically young emasculated men have now begun to apply thinking patterns that traditionally were found mostly among women and beta males. An exacerbating factor is that they actually have become 'addicted' to social group endorsement, which is also why social media sites like Facebook, Twitter, etc. have grown exponentially over the past decade. Many are in fact addicted to getting their daily dose of group endorsement, and the quickest and most efficient way to get your 'fix' is to simply regurgitate the mantras imposed by a Marxist multi-cultural ideology. Thinking patterns or theories that oppose popular views actually trigger a stress response, are emotionally painful, and are thus avoided.

So a large percentage of Millenials have actually been emotionally trained and thus will respond to particular external stimuli in a very predictable fashion. In very simple terms their endocrine system floods their entire body with certain peptides when 'triggered' by specific keywords or topics. Positive ones like getting up voted or praised on social media produce pleasure responses and feelings of belonging and being 'good' or 'right'. Negative ones illicit anger and stress responses, it's like pressing a button. Read here for a background on how learned behavior controls much of your personality/thinking via peptides.

So when you guys joke about some feminist or male SJW being 'triggered' it's actually not a joke. Not only are they simply not trained and used to thinking on a logical/analytical basis, but even worse their ideology has ingrained them with emotional triggers that will elicit a strong negative response when faced with counter arguments. By the way none of us are immune to emotional programming.

IF you're white and live in the U.S. here's a good personal test. Next time surrounded by several African Americans imagine for a moment that you're standing up and yell 'hey niggers' at them. Or if you're near a few Jewish individuals consider yelling a pertinent slur in your mind. Of course you won't do it but just imagine yourself doing it and then observe your own feelings and stress response. If you're a white person living in the U.S. it will most likely trigger a whole host of emotions, from fear, anxiety based on a boost of adrenaline or perhaps endorphins (if you're a racist).

Yet another contributing factor that is widely being ignored is environmental pollution and in particular estrogen mimicking components in plastic which are known to lower sperm counts and induce behavioral changes in animals as well as human beings. To make matters worse a lot of young males have been trained to eat 'healthy' soy based foods which in turn raises estrogen levels. This is easily observed by comparing the average speech patterns and behavior of young men, many of which appear more effeminate and less aggressive than prior generations.

So when attempting to debate a controversial social/political topic with friends and family on the basis of reason, evidence, and logic you will often find that you are running into a wall of negative emotions. Which can be very frustrating to us. BUT there is a silver lining which may not be immediately apparent. Most women and betas are followers by definition and as soon as public opinion shifts they don't question it and quickly adjust their own opinions/thinking accordingly.

Enter Trump and the recent victory of the alt-right. The most effective strategy we we can employ is not to convince others via debate and dialog but to simply continue being victorious and to lead forward aggressively and unapologetically. As the environment and the public dialog shifts a generation of emasculated beta followers will in the end adjust their own thinking. They cannot help it because it is what they have been trained to do.

Solid post. No reasonon to drop out of the thread because of LikAballer. He may be genuinine or just trolling - who cares.

I would like the input of guys like Mikado, but frankly I understand it. Islam is such a pain in the ass to defend that you have to resort to ever greater mental twisting or you stick to a minimal folk-version of having only a few traditions and some patriarchy with that. But that does not cover the basis of Islam.

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As for your post and indoctrination - yeah - you got that right perfectly. Actually the repetition aspect has been started before and works on men too, though worse of course.

The former Reagan administration co-worker Charlotte Iserbyt lays it all out clearly in her book - DUMBING DOWN OF AMERICA.

In fact - many of the educational indoctrination concepts were taken from German educators/scientists whose goal was a uniform indoctrination. Now with social media you have even greater tools to give them conformity and reinforcements.

She has a blog now: http://abcsofdumbdown.blogspot.com/

Also - her massive book is now available as an e-book for free: http://deliberatedumbingdown.com/MomsPDFs/DDDoA.sml.pdf

So I would recommend guys to download it and read it. She is born wealthy so she does not need the cash frankly. (Born into a Skull and Bones family, which explains why she got the job at the Reagan administration so easily. And lucky for her that her whistleblowing in the education field is irrelevant to the elite. If it had been something concerning technology, medical scams or current politics, then she would likely be already dead.)

(12-26-2016 03:04 PM)LikeABaller Wrote:  Imagine you're coding a computer virus. You want it to spread as quickly as possible, what type of virus would you use. One which fools the antivirus into thinking its a friendly file right?
Preferably one which will pose as a .jpg instead of an .exe

When you see religions as piece of code you'll see Islam is the most superior one if your intention is to spread it as fast as possible.

Now you can call it barbaric, cruel etc, but you are taking sides when coming to these assumptions. Just see it as a piece of code, a virus.

Islam spreads like crazy in the short run, but does terribly in the long run. It only succeeds by feeding off living civilizations, but produces nothing of it's own. Just like a virus.

Conversely Christianity spreads slowly but carries longer gains. It succeeds by creating strong organic communities of mutual love.

Islam succeeds through conquest. Christianity spreads mainly through hard work and mutual respect.

When there are no more cultures left to conquer, or when Islam is unable to conquer, what happens to the Muslims? They turn on each other, 100% of the time. Obsessing over who is the purest Muslim, they destroy each other. ISIS is just yet another example in a long line of Islamic civil wars going back hundreds and hundreds of years.

Islam is indeed like a virus, and has a similar lifespan and trajectory. Christianity on the other hand, is the mustard seed.

(12-26-2016 04:17 PM)redpillage Wrote:  I spent over an hour drafting a long ass post in response to some of the issues many here seem to have dealing with their extended families. Then this guy drops a ton of noise and nobody gets to read it.

I read it fully, but I don't make posts simply to concur with people. I would vouch that everyone is in the same boat, and anyone who misses it because they only read the most recent page isn't worth the write-up in the first place.

(12-27-2016 02:05 AM)Samseau Wrote:  Islam spreads like crazy in the short run, but does terribly in the long run. It only succeeds by feeding off living civilizations, but produces nothing of it's own.

Geert Wilders mentions this in his book Marked For Death. Essentially any form of progress beyond killing and the taking of lands, women and children was completely frowned upon (and still is). Eventually they ran out of Christians to slave/tax and was imploding from within, only for Europeans to travel to their lands and opportunity raised it's ugly head once more. Then the discovery of oil and the West world's dependency on it was wholly capitalised on - suddenly they had something to barter with that already existed in their lands in copious amounts, no work required.

Now the amount of Christians to tax/slave inside their lands, due to their pursuit of a caliphate are next to non existent, yet the boon of travel allows them to do it in the lands of the Kaafir instead and take the taxes indirectly. While oil is a multi billion dollar enterprise and we rely on it even moreso.

https://www.welt.de/vermischtes/article1...-sich.html

Quote:Homeless set on fire- all suspects turn them selves into police.

Unknown people wanted to light a sleeping homeless in Berlin. The police published photos. Now all seven suspects have put themselves up. The main suspect is a 21 year old Syrian.

At the request of the "world", the police assume that six of the seven suspects are from Syria, one from Libya. The main suspect was Syrian, as a police officer explained.

Either Merkel laughts for joy because everything goes according to her plan or after the several Terror attacks - Würzburg Train attack, Berlin, the rape murder of a girl, and many other stuff, now this. There she shits her pants because she made Germany a shithole.

I remember in the start of the crisis when Neo Nazis spread some fake news, now the reality is even worse. Of course it has nothing to do with Islam, nothing to do with her open border politics, nothing has to do with nothing. Just with the intolerance of the Germans. Do not act, put your head down and just take it all. With the hopes in your heart that the one that kicks you down one day will learn how wrong his acting is.
Do not dare to stand up and kick out his teeth.

The mood in society seems to be at a boiling point and politics and media increase their propaganda phrases. Till the tide turns. Goes all according to the plan.

Hilarious vid - such a happy song:

(12-27-2016 05:03 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  Hilarious vid - such a happy song:

http://www.focus.de/panorama/welt/duesse...12382.html

Quote:In Düsseldorf, a young woman was molested by a group of men. When the men began to physically press the 23-year-old, a friend of the woman entered. It came to a fight. In the end, three perpetrators were arrested, three others are still on the run.

On the way from Düsseldorf city center to the main station, the 23-year-old was verbally bothered by the six-headed group of black Africans in the early Sunday morning hours, the police said. When the men touched the woman, a friend of the woman intervened to defend her. Quickly developed a fight between the 24-year-old and the group.

A random policeman drove past the scene. The trainee gave himself as a police officer and asked the men to leave the young woman and her acquaintances. The men then became more aggressive and threatened the police. This then alerted the federal police to support.

In the meantime, the young woman's acquaintance managed to overwhelm three perpetrators, so that the federal police could finally arrest them.
The exiles are 18, 21 and 24 years old and come from Nigeria. One of them was injured in the fight and had to be treated by a doctor. It has to assert itself because of jointly committed dangerous personal injury.

Three more perpetrators fled. "The three men are still fleeting," said a spokeswoman for the federal police

A story of courage, just one German need to stand up and can beat 6 of those African "enrichers".
Anyway another glory story of the colourful and diverse Germany. By the way the offenders that set the homeless on fire, guess what? Had be refugees.

If you saw most of the African newcomers you find out that these are not the muscular tall American blacks. They are rather short and have a tiny frame.

One German who lifts even moderately can deal with 3 of them. But of course the way they usually win is by using knifes and other weapons - and they gang up on the locals wiht overwhelming odds.

You gotta be prepared for them to pull a knife at any time or fight dirty which complicates things - since you have to counter that in force.

But it is telling that they have zero respect for cops in Germany. What they gonna do? Arrest and release him soon afterwards? They are going to get asylum regardless.

(12-27-2016 02:05 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

(12-26-2016 03:04 PM)LikeABaller Wrote:  Imagine you're coding a computer virus. You want it to spread as quickly as possible, what type of virus would you use. One which fools the antivirus into thinking its a friendly file right?
Preferably one which will pose as a .jpg instead of an .exe

When you see religions as piece of code you'll see Islam is the most superior one if your intention is to spread it as fast as possible.

Now you can call it barbaric, cruel etc, but you are taking sides when coming to these assumptions. Just see it as a piece of code, a virus.

Islam spreads like crazy in the short run, but does terribly in the long run. It only succeeds by feeding off living civilizations, but produces nothing of it's own. Just like a virus.

Conversely Christianity spreads slowly but carries longer gains. It succeeds by creating strong organic communities of mutual love.

Islam succeeds through conquest. Christianity spreads mainly through hard work and mutual respect.

When there are no more cultures left to conquer, or when Islam is unable to conquer, what happens to the Muslims? They turn on each other, 100% of the time. Obsessing over who is the purest Muslim, they destroy each other. ISIS is just yet another example in a long line of Islamic civil wars going back hundreds and hundreds of years.

Islam is indeed like a virus, and has a similar lifespan and trajectory. Christianity on the other hand, is the mustard seed.

(12-27-2016 02:18 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  If you saw most of the African newcomers you find out that these are not the muscular tall American blacks. They are rather short and have a tiny frame.

One German who lifts even moderately can deal with 3 of them. But of course the way they usually win is by using knifes and other weapons - and they gang up on the locals wiht overwhelming odds.

Have an expandable baton with you. Smash out their teeth and hit the skull hard. Don't hesitate.
Just 2 days ago I went out with my girl, two refugees passed our way on their bikes, one said "Merry Christmas". I'm quite aware that "not all are like that", still my guts did tighten up that they don't come to close.

Thanks for posting that,man. It makes me happy to just have evidence of good men still inhabiting the fatherland,although I love to sling feces as much as anyone lately the thread has often lapsed into Germany bashing for the lulz fest