Nah, Brits don't hate Germans. Giving you shit is not the same thing as hating you. Just like you give your mates shit for fucking a fat chick, we give you shit for trying to take over the world. Totally the same thing.

Now the FRENCH, however...

(12-24-2016 03:26 PM)Matsufubu Wrote:  Nah, Brits don't hate Germans. Giving you shit is not the same thing as hating you. Just like you give your mates shit for fucking a fat chick, we give you shit for trying to take over the world. Totally the same thing.

Now the FRENCH, however...

Hehehehe :-)

The English ruled 1/4 of the world for over a century, they did won 2 world wars and lost everything. I can feel them.

Do you guys think some of those terrorist will poison the drinking water? It was a plan after WW II.

(12-24-2016 03:26 PM)Matsufubu Wrote:  Nah, Brits don't hate Germans. Giving you shit is not the same thing as hating you. Just like you give your mates shit for fucking a fat chick, we give you shit for trying to take over the world. Totally the same thing.

Now the FRENCH, however...

The national socialists did not try to take over the world btw. They created their own exchange system and they were attacked that is all.

(12-24-2016 04:01 PM)Parzival Wrote:  The English ruled 1/4 of the world for over a century, they did won 2 world wars and lost everything. I can feel them.

Do you guys think some of those terrorist will poison the drinking water? It was a plan after WW II.

The English took over mostly empty lands such as today Canada and Australia and managed to rule India a country where even today half of the people shit outside.

Even in Africa they managed to extend their political influence in Egypt and Sudan ( both countries were ruled by an albanian dynasty) because the ruling albanian elite needed help to crush down Arab riots.

The world wars were won by the American industrial power and not England.

World would have looked different if the USA would have not intervened in both world wars

(12-10-2016 11:43 PM)lowhead360 Wrote:  The "Turks" didn't build the Ottoman Empire; they founded it sure, but it was the Islamsized sons of Balkan Christians (Janissaries) that turned it into a super power. Virtually every grand vizier of any worth of the Ottoman Empire was ethnically Serbian, Greek, Bosnian, Croatian etc and the House of Osman was completely European by blood. In fact, it was when the Ottomans became more discriminatory against Christians and more fundamentalist in their Islam after the Siege of Vienna that their Empire went from being one of the strongest on the world to the "sick man of Europe".

'' Turkey'' as a nation state did not exist before 1923.

People that are called '' turks'' today are descendants of several nations of the Ottoman Empire.

The Osman house might have been turkic in heritage, but those turkic tribes did not even know what Turks are, they just had a semi mongol identity mixed heavily with Islam, that is all.

The Ottoman army was always very mixed and the Empire was just a multi ethnic, multi cultural empire ruled by a more tolerant islamic caliphate.

The Empire was not build by Janissaries, but mostly by volunteers.

And to correct you, most of the Prime Ministers of the Ottoman Empire in comparison to the other ethnicites were Albanian.

39 Prime Ministers of the Ottoman Empire and the most powerful ruling family was Albanian

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%B6pr%...hmed_Pasha

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%B6pr%...%BC_family

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%B6pr%...%C3%BC_era

I consider this ironic btw, considering that Albanians fought harder than anyone else in the Balkans against Ottomans and they probably saved all Europe in the 15th century leaded by ubermen such as Skanderbeg, Gjergj Arianiti and Lek Dukagjini.

Croats and Serbs were invisible in the empire. Muslim Bosnians were important also.

(12-10-2016 10:49 PM)LikeABaller Wrote:  

(12-10-2016 10:26 PM)Samseau Wrote:  Many turks today are a lot better than they were in the past, no doubt about it. But it seems Islam is taking over your country once again. The secular turks are being pushed out and soon you will feel like a stranger in your own country with the rate of Islamization in Turkey.

We enjoyed the most powerful years under the rule of the caliphate. Turkey is a mess compared to what Ottoman was under islamic rule. Power wise we probably are like 95% weaker compared to our old empire. I'd choose a huge powerful islamic empire over a weak secular state any time.

The huns collapsed we came back, the selchuks collapsed we came back back. Turks have formed over 16 empires in the last 2000 years. We came back stronger every time with the exception being republic of Turkey. We are far away from our glory days.

There's a good saying in Turkey, it only takes 5 of us to form a government : )

You can go be secular all you want in Europe, but we're aware that if a country loses its religion it will lose its culture and loss of culture will lead to cultural degeneracy . Kind of like what is happening in Europe, you are being taken over by SJWS, because the majority of your population is Atheist.

The same was about to happen to us, but we are a different story. We have formed over 16 states, our state survival instinct kicked in and we were blessed with a leader like Erdogan. Same instinct kicked in USA too, they got Trump.

Don't become ridiculous. You are the son of an Arab, Armenian, Kurd or just some muslim anatolian villager and you lack identity.

The Ottoman Empire was a multi ethnic , multi cultural empire ruled by several nations with an imperial dynasty called the Osman house. The Osman dynasty called itself '' Osmanli'' and the term ''turk'' was used for a mas of muslim villagers with no identity and was considered an offence.

The Ottomans have nothing to do with Seljuks and turkic tribes had no common identity, let alone Ottoman empire that was a multi ethnic caliphate build my Balkaners.

People called Turks today descend from a mass of identity less muslims that Atatuk united and gave them a fatherland.

Most of turks look like Arabs and you are genetically very diverse people.

(12-11-2016 05:53 AM)LikeABaller Wrote:  For most people their idea if integration is when people become assimilated and lose their language/culture/religion . We've seen it happen in the states, 3rd/4th generation Americans who are of Italian/German descent etc cant speak Italian or German. Look in the last 2000 years we've formed 16 states, we've lost 15 of them. Turks have a huge sense of national identity and I am proud to see 3rd generation Turks in Germany still practicing their religion and speaking Turkish. This might be "lack of integration" for you, but for me this is something to the proud of.

There is not such thing as '' turkish identity'' . What is '' turkish identity'', persian and arab foods, perain and arab names and mosques???

The issue is that most of the people called turks such as you are descendants of the different nations that populated the ottoman empire and populated anatolia, that is why you are so genetically and racially diverse, pretty much as much as latin american, and that is why you dont look turkic, but you look like anatolians and arabs.

Your '' identity'' is just a muslim identity of the multi cultural ottoman empire.

As for 3rd generation turks speaking turkish and not integrating in german society, this just proves the perception that modern turks are a plague to Germany and every place you immigrate in.

You do not assimilate because you have low IQs, you stay in your ghettos and selling kebaps in place of upgrading in scientific and academic society.

Considering the way how Germany has become a degraded place, be '' proud'' that you conquered it with your backward. genetically diverse muslim Anatolian crowds, bravo for that!

It's Christmas time. Stop the hatred for a just a little while!

(12-24-2016 05:55 PM)RealDeal Wrote:  It's Christmas time. Stop the hatred for a just a little while!

All I want for Christmas are newbies that read the rules...

(12-24-2016 05:55 PM)RealDeal Wrote:  It's Christmas time. Stop the hatred for a just a little while!

To fight for survive is not hate.

(12-24-2016 05:18 PM)Roger Wrote:  There is not such thing as '' turkish identity'' . What is '' turkish identity'', persian and arab foods, perain and arab names and mosques???

The issue is that most of the people called turks such as you are descendants of the different nations that populated the ottoman empire and populated anatolia, that is why you are so genetically and racially diverse, pretty much as much as latin american, and that is why you dont look turkic, but you look like anatolians and arabs.

Your '' identity'' is just a muslim identity of the multi cultural ottoman empire.

As for 3rd generation turks speaking turkish and not integrating in german society, this just proves the perception that modern turks are a plague to Germany and every place you immigrate in.

You do not assimilate because you have low IQs, you stay in your ghettos and selling kebaps in place of upgrading in scientific and academic society.

Considering the way how Germany has become a degraded place, be '' proud'' that you conquered it with your backward. genetically diverse muslim Anatolian crowds, bravo for that!

The Ottomans had after the conquest of Constantinople still a lot of Christian blood, also they were the descendants of the advanced people that created Troy. No wonder they could take control of the Muslim world over the more inbred Arab populations.

They took Islam and did with that shitty crappy ideology what it was designed to do - unite a diverse people under threat of daeath, let the unbelievers pay protection money in order to stay alive, conquer as much as possible and grab slaves and pussy all across the world. Too bad that it also has embedded in it a backwards bent, scientific snail-pace, Islam in every orifice, inbreeding etc. - the usual Islamic lifestyle, but just slower than with the Arab tribes probably due to the constant European blood infusion.

The globalists are taking you for for fools now and will wipe you out in the end. They know that if things continue like they are now, then Europe will become Muslim in 70-120 years at the latest - mired in civil war, but Muslim. And guess if the globalists truly want that? They have no desire of facing a 650 mio. Islamic behemoth in the year 2090. They will kill everyone they can and Israel will have a national span from from Libya up to Dubai with zero Muslims living there.

Islam is a scientific, religious, social, spiritual disaster and always was. Nevermind if it was marginally better than some local Arab kid-burying-cult. The Jews, Christians, Zoroastrans and Hindus they killed in conquest were much better in all terms except for the unifying war-cult-part.

Islam has to be banned sooner or later out of love for the people born Muslim and the future generations of the world - for the sake of people like this:









Islam needs to be pushed back, criticized, ostracized and later banned for all time.

I know it is hard for Middle Easterners to get the thought out of them that THEY ARE NOT MUSLIMS FIRST. They are first Turks, Persians, Egyptians and Islam is an ideology that in highest likelihood was just forced upon one of your ancestors. It wasn't much of a positive conversion process like with Christianity, which grew overwhelmingly without bloodshed, because it was superior to the religions offered then.

A German is first a German and only some decided to become SS-Nazis.
A Persian is first Persian and unfortunately the religious SS-Nazi ideology is Islam. Without Islam a Persian will be still Persian and can look back over his long history. A Turk will be still a Turk and can look back in pride over the history of his country - even if Islam is gone.

You can leave the Islamic ideology behind yourself or the globalists will do it for you by feigning to be multicultural, be all anti-Islamophobia while secretly already planning your complete extinction. Your choice. The other option aside from extinction is utter and complete surveillance so that everyone in the world gets chipped just because of Muslim Jihadis. None of the two options sound promising.

I finally understand now that there is no culture in the West, after spending this year living in Poland I finally came back to the UK for my yearly visit to see the family for Christmas. I believe the debate was 8v1, I had decided ahead of time not to engage in political talk with the family as it wouldnt end well for me, and not end well it did. Despite knowing better not to do so I did anyway, I had endured Merkel's praise as a leader from a cousin, various anti trump rhetoric and dumbass ignorant facts about Brexit from a few uncles, but I was not prepared for what came next. My uncle finally and proudly told the family, after a discussion about the recent terror attack in Berlin, that had he been a victim of such an attack, he would trust us not to re-enforce any hatred towards muslims as they collectively had done nothing wrong.

There it was, in all its glory to behold, it had all started with a small reply from me "you cant be serious?", and that was all it took, there is no need to post a brief summary of what happened I just sort of voiced alot of basic logic that has been repeated on here 1000 times. The escalation was so rapid I was getting called all sorts of the usual names, tbh none of this even bothered me for awhile, ive argued with many a liberal in real life and can easily just shut them down with facts but to quickly learn that my family just does not care, was the most bizarre thing of all. It was such a strange thing to endure, I was quite content to sit there as 8 children I call my family lectured me for not knowing any better, rather than engage further in debate I simply listened and took it all in, I asked basic questions that peeked my interest but for the most part let them have their way, I know in that kind of setting I will convince no one. In that, probably an hour long exchange I realized they just don't care

They dont care about their culture, as they say "what is our culture anyway"
They dont care about dying in one of these attacks, they compared it to that of dying from a car accident "so what if we all die, we are all going to die anyway, im more likely to get hit by a car tomorrow"
They dont care about even basic integration "they shouldnt have to adopt our way of life if they dont want to, thats racist"
They dont care about demographics "if they outbreed us so what, we have been a majority for way too long anyway"

They just dont care, any minor point I tried to make got the same response, how can I fight for this family guys?

So yeah id say lesson learnt on my behalf, but I already knew ahead of time it was a bad idea, dont bring up politics with family, take it from me you will come out of it a lot more bitter than if you just sat there and put up with the kind of lines you might read on your social media feed. I know now id probably start an argument again under the right circumstances, family is family but learning they give 0 fucks even about one of their own, new perspective attained.

Europe is the most racist continent, the racism is whats triggering the polarization. I have secular/atheist friends who are being treated like jihadis just because they're Turkish. This has nothing to do with Islam whatsoever. You can abandon Islam but you can't abandon your race.
I lived in Denmark for 2 years, and let me tell you it was a racist shithole. I lived in the best part of town(Hellerup) and a lot of people gave me weird stares when I was entering my apartment. It's like a way of saying WTF is this Turk/Arab doing here. On the other hand I went to college in the states and had a blast.
Roosh wrote a book about Denmark, I read the book. He probably couldn't pull quality tail in Denmark because he looks like a Middle Eastern . And a ME person in Denmark is the lowest you can get in society.

I remember there was an event at this club, and we had to send an sms with our name in order to get on the guestlist. Me and my Danish friend sent the SMS at the same time. He got a confirmation in 5 mins, I never got that confirmation, I sent an SMS over and over again 3 times. When I went to the club my name was not on the guest list : )))))))))))))

Now I'm not bitching and trying to be a SJW, cause I really dont give a fuck. I dont go to countries where I'm not wanted.

But me changing my religion will never help me escape the discriminatory treatment. Hence I will never change it. There's nothing in it for me to change it.

One guy from Bosnia said this: "We are not Bosnians, we are Muslims". Pretty good example of negating their heritage and identifying with death cult called Islam.

(12-25-2016 03:37 PM)LikeABaller Wrote:  You can abandon Islam but you can't abandon your race.

Apostasy is punishable by death according to Sharia.

(12-25-2016 03:43 PM)sterling_archer Wrote:  

(12-25-2016 03:37 PM)LikeABaller Wrote:  You can abandon Islam but you can't abandon your race.

Apostasy is punishable by death according to Sharia.

So is adultery : )

Guess what's completely missing in the German MSM today? Yes, you guessed it - Christmas!!

   
   
   
   

Only the Bild Zeitung has a cursory mention of Christmas on its front page on December 25th. I think there was more attention at the beginning of Ramadan!

When I was a kid the major newspapers always wished everyone a merry Christmas on its front pages. Those days are long gone....

(12-25-2016 03:37 PM)LikeABaller Wrote:  Europe is the most racist continent, the racism is whats triggering the polarization. I have secular/atheist friends who are being treated like jihadis just because they're Turkish. This has nothing to do with Islam whatsoever. You can abandon Islam but you can't abandon your race.
I lived in Denmark for 2 years, and let me tell you it was a racist shithole. I lived in the best part of town(Hellerup) and a lot of people gave me weird stares when I was entering my apartment. It's like a way of saying WTF is this Turk/Arab doing here. On the other hand I went to college in the states and had a blast.
Roosh wrote a book about Denmark, I read the book. He probably couldn't pull quality tail in Denmark because he looks like a Middle Eastern . And a ME person in Denmark is the lowest you can get in society.

I remember there was an event at this club, and we had to send an sms with our name in order to get on the guestlist. Me and my Danish friend sent the SMS at the same time. He got a confirmation in 5 mins, I never got that confirmation, I sent an SMS over and over again 3 times. When I went to the club my name was not on the guest list : )))))))))))))

Now I'm not bitching and trying to be a SJW, cause I really dont give a fuck. I dont go to countries where I'm not wanted.

But me changing my religion will never help me escape the discriminatory treatment. Hence I will never change it. There's nothing in it for me to change it.

Europe is the least racist xenophobic place in the world no matter how your definition of racism goes. All other cultures are far more against other religions, races or tribes.

What many Middle Easterners experience is squarely on the shoulders of the violennce and crap perpetrated by Islam and your fellow Jihadis.

You can blame them. If all were Persian doctors and high-IQ corporate managers that are my Ex-Muslim & Muslim friends, then I doubt if anyone would be "racist" towards you. Though racism in your definition is not getting a club verification or a strange look at first by some people that don't know you. That is so tough indeed! Such racism! Much better to let in millions and suffer through countless terrorist attacks and be all open for more diversity! Let them all come in and open more mosques, then get killed ever more until one day it is a no-go-zone and then finally a sharia shithole.

If all were as high-performing as the few Turks I studied with or the high-IQ Persians or secular Afghanis who constitute my friends, then I can guarantee you that you would be viewed like a Japanese - strange, but not negative.

US is the least xenophobic, its definitely not Europe. I've lived in both. In Moscow I was able to get into the clubs with even the most strictest face control procedures, but in Denmark I was denied entry to mediocre clubs. The look I got when entering my apartment was not a "strange" one, it was more like a "shocked" one, meaning how the fuck does this guy get an apartment here. A version of law of jante combined with racism : ) I lived for 2 years I definitely know what I'm talking about.

(12-25-2016 03:36 PM)NewMeta Wrote:  I finally understand now that there is no culture in the West, after spending this year living in Poland I finally came back to the UK for my yearly visit to see the family for Christmas. I believe the debate was 8v1, I had decided ahead of time not to engage in political talk with the family as it wouldnt end well for me, and not end well it did. Despite knowing better not to do so I did anyway, I had endured Merkel's praise as a leader from a cousin, various anti trump rhetoric and dumbass ignorant facts about Brexit from a few uncles, but I was not prepared for what came next. My uncle finally and proudly told the family, after a discussion about the recent terror attack in Berlin, that had he been a victim of such an attack, he would trust us not to re-enforce any hatred towards muslims as they collectively had done nothing wrong.

There it was, in all its glory to behold, it had all started with a small reply from me "you cant be serious?", and that was all it took, there is no need to post a brief summary of what happened I just sort of voiced alot of basic logic that has been repeated on here 1000 times. The escalation was so rapid I was getting called all sorts of the usual names, tbh none of this even bothered me for awhile, ive argued with many a liberal in real life and can easily just shut them down with facts but to quickly learn that my family just does not care, was the most bizarre thing of all. It was such a strange thing to endure, I was quite content to sit there as 8 children I call my family lectured me for not knowing any better, rather than engage further in debate I simply listened and took it all in, I asked basic questions that peeked my interest but for the most part let them have their way, I know in that kind of setting I will convince no one. In that, probably an hour long exchange I realized they just don't care

They dont care about their culture, as they say "what is our culture anyway"
They dont care about dying in one of these attacks, they compared it to that of dying from a car accident "so what if we all die, we are all going to die anyway, im more likely to get hit by a car tomorrow"
They dont care about even basic integration "they shouldnt have to adopt our way of life if they dont want to, thats racist"
They dont care about demographics "if they outbreed us so what, we have been a majority for way too long anyway"

They just dont care, any minor point I tried to make got the same response, how can I fight for this family guys?

So yeah id say lesson learnt on my behalf, but I already knew ahead of time it was a bad idea, dont bring up politics with family, take it from me you will come out of it a lot more bitter than if you just sat there and put up with the kind of lines you might read on your social media feed. I know now id probably start an argument again under the right circumstances, family is family but learning they give 0 fucks even about one of their own, new perspective attained.

Discussions with family are tough.

In the past I had major discussions and still sometimes have.

Now I manage to stay out of hot-button topics. I voice certain things if the parties are at least somewhat open to other debate points or I just stress a certain way of thinking.

My sister is a SJW-journalist - a true believer who honestly believes ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING THAT ANY MAINSTREAM LEFTIST NEWSPAPER WRITES. I also came to the realizeation that the media and entertainment complex has managed to make it appear so that anyone who is anti-immigration or pro-Trump, pro-Brexit, pro-AFD - that this person is like a Neonazi racist and one step away from joining the SS and mowing down Jewish villages in Russia. No seriously - I honestly think that the media has managed to convince them of that.

So I usually when discussing topics of that poke holes in the perception of that thought process and also introduce them to the next updates like gender-craziness etc. that they have no idea of.

But generally I advise folk to avoid the topics, because keep in mind that your family is sometimes the one who in dire times are willing to risk their lives for you - never underestimate the blood-bond. You can observe their indoctrination and be gentle to them when speaking to them. They are brainwashed mind-slaves and you are a free thinker and have to take the higher viewpoint.

A better state is to assume the Amused Mastery mindset known in Game.

Funny tidbit - one guy in the extended family got himself married recently with an American girl. He is Polish and actually went to the States and came back married. She is a good girl and adores him, so it is fine. I mentioned briefly that I am happy for having moved from Western Europe to Poland a few years back - mostly due to the wrong kind of immigration and she gave me a look and fully understood. She agreed with me and later I found out that she would not want to go back to the US to raise their kids. She wants to visit and travel the the States, but certiainly feels that her kids would be better off in a 99,99% Christian-White Polish country than in the ever more diverse economically deteriorating USA. And the funny part is that she is a full Democratic Obama supporter, but disagrees strongly on that front. Ah well - some people cannot see straight.

(12-25-2016 04:05 PM)LikeABaller Wrote:  US is the least xenophobic, its definitely not Europe. I've lived in both. In Moscow I was able to get into the clubs with even the most strictest face control procedures, but in Denmark I was denied entry to mediocre clubs. The look I got when entering my apartment was not a "strange" one, it was more like a "shocked" one, meaning how the fuck does this guy get an apartment here. A version of law of jante combined with racism : ) I lived for 2 years I definitely know what I'm talking about.

Denmark can be specific, but it always was. I remember guys saying back in the 1990s that they were treating any foreigner - Germans, French - highly suspect. Some of it is probably still around.

I lived in Denmark but got to travel all around Europe at the same time. I never got any of the negative vibe in the other countries, it might be specific to Denmark. Fuck I loved France soo much the people were extremely kind. In Italy I basically blended in with the people, everyone spoke to me in Italian immediately thinking I was Italian.

(12-25-2016 03:37 PM)LikeABaller Wrote:  Europe is the most racist continent, the racism is whats triggering the polarization. I have secular/atheist friends who are being treated like jihadis just because they're Turkish. This has nothing to do with Islam whatsoever.

How many Indians, Chinese or Koreans get that treatment? Where is the "racism" against them? I guess its because they not justify every stupid action with Islam. They not walking around and say how infidel the local people are. Or they just don't scream Yalla Yalla and Allahu Akbar all the time. Maybe they don't blow themselves up or shoot at people in the name of their faith?

Some groups have a certain reputation out of their behaviour. The I'm a proud Muslim, hypocritical big ball swinging guy is well known all over Europe. How much looks do you take when you see a group of French, German, Thai, or Indian people? How do you watch your back with a group of Arabs and Turks? People do so out of experience. There are for sure decent Arabs and Turks, just the impression is, the majority isn't. You people should wonder why the Media has to repeat all the time not all of you are like that. Why is there never an outrage against Indians or the Chinese that are all over the place in many parts of the world as well?

(12-25-2016 04:25 PM)Parzival Wrote:  

(12-25-2016 03:37 PM)LikeABaller Wrote:  Europe is the most racist continent, the racism is whats triggering the polarization. I have secular/atheist friends who are being treated like jihadis just because they're Turkish. This has nothing to do with Islam whatsoever.

How many Indians, Chinese or Koreans get that treatment? Where is the "racism" against them? I guess its because they not justify every stupid action with Islam. They not walking around and say how infidel the local people are. Or they just don't scream Yalla Yalla and Allahu Akbar all the time. Maybe they don't blow themselves up or shoot at people in the name of their faith?

Some groups have a certain reputation out of their behaviour. The I'm a proud Muslim, hypocritical big ball swinging guy is well known all over Europe. How much looks do you take when you see a group of French, German, Thai, or Indian people? How do you watch your back with a group of Arabs and Turks? People do so out of experience. There are for sure decent Arabs and Turks, just the impression is, the majority isn't. You people should wonder why the Media has to repeat all the time not all of you are like that. Why is there never an outrage against Indians or the Chinese that are all over the place in many parts of the world as well?

In Thailand there are clubs which don't let any Indians/Chinese in.
https://www.tripadvisor.com/Attraction_R...ngkok.html
You can read the reviews here, I experienced it first hand. I was waiting for my Indian friend at Mixx, they didn't let him in.