(12-15-2016 04:28 AM)El_Gostro Wrote:  Anyone know if Spain has agreed to take in refugees recently?

Noticing new faces in town in the park areas, it started about two weeks ago.
Not an ethnologue but would wager they look very much Afghani or paquistani.
Everything in their clothing style, body language and general awkwardness/out of placeness screams "refugee". They don't act like the usual new collectivity arrivals you see at places like the fruit vendors and don't move around work places either. Instead, they suspiciously move in circlish patterns round relax/sport spots.

I've spent a few months in Spain this year and noticed a marked increase in North Africans all over the place. We are talking at minimum double that of the past year. You can see them almost everywhere - in parks, in city centers, on street corners. From what I was able to gather they keep a pretty low profile but are CLEARLY controlling the drug trade. Saw some black dude sell drugs in front of a fucking church if you would believe it.

I actually talked to the Spanish cops about it. Told them that those guys were using hand signals to communicate with each other across street corners. The cops know about it but their hands are completely tied. One told me that a new law was recently passed that prevents them from searching drug dealers unless they seem them handling a considerable amount of 'paper' in the open. They can't even search homes anymore from what I was able to gather (he talked fast).

So in summary, things are changing quickly in Spain. And Podemos in collaboration with the Jesuits and other do-gooder organizations are doing their best to lure as many migrant losers to Spain as possible. That although there is still an extremely high youth employment in that country.

The Left will never learn... maybe we may see the rise of another Franko in Spain. What many people don't know about Franco was that his 'White Terror' campaign largely was in response to a horrendous terror campaign committed by the Left. The Left was executing priests and militant Christians in mass without trial - we are talking systematic persecution of Christians and republicans alike. Much of that period is kept in silence these days with everyone simply demonizing Franco but not the communist/socialist terror campaign that preceded it.

The political polarization has not changed in Spain and is once again becoming more extreme. One can only imagine what societal friction continued youth employment combined with an influx of Islamic migrants would rekindle in this country.

(12-15-2016 05:52 AM)redpillage Wrote:  The political polarization has not changed in Spain and is once again becoming more extreme. One can only imagine what societal friction continued youth employment combined with an influx of Islamic migrants would rekindle in this country.

I'm sure you must mean "youth unemployment" .

And I must add my obligatory rant against haphazard use of "Left" as defining people, you are clearly capable of more refined description: Classical Liberals' prime source of morals is the social contract and the rule of law, rather than the rule of kings or gods or Allah.

Extrajudical killing of priests or any other persecution of non-violent people is anathema to a true classical liberal.

In today's Livability Public Service announcement, I must unfortunately announce it appears the medium sized city of Vicenza, Italy ( about 110,000) appears to have a dearth of mosques as well as a large nearby American Imperialist Military installation. Actually, I also found no mosques in Central Madrid.

However, Vicenza does appear to have the low fertility and aging population problem of much of Italy, which means it will be more free of the scourge of older men dating young women. Best to BYOB.

(12-15-2016 06:54 AM)iknowexactly Wrote:  

(12-15-2016 05:52 AM)redpillage Wrote:  The political polarization has not changed in Spain and is once again becoming more extreme. One can only imagine what societal friction continued youth employment combined with an influx of Islamic migrants would rekindle in this country.

I'm sure you must mean "youth unemployment" .

And I must add my obligatory rant against haphazard use of "Left" as defining people, you are clearly capable of more refined description: Classical Liberals' prime source of morals is the social contract and the rule of law, rather than the rule of kings or gods or Allah.

Extrajudical killing of priests or any other persecution of non-violent people is anathema to a true classical liberal.

@IKE Do you mean that many of the Spanish youth unemployed are like so because of choice? ie. that they're too lazy or unmotivated to go out and find work?
Slight sidetrack here -> I'm not sure how it works in Spain, I would imagine the social welfare is relatively small, particularly if you're living at home with your parents?
If welfare was substantial, surely the country would be a magnet for welfare sponging migrants like Germany and Sweden have become?

(12-15-2016 06:54 AM)iknowexactly Wrote:  

(12-15-2016 05:52 AM)redpillage Wrote:  The political polarization has not changed in Spain and is once again becoming more extreme. One can only imagine what societal friction continued youth employment combined with an influx of Islamic migrants would rekindle in this country.

I'm sure you must mean "youth unemployment" .

And I must add my obligatory rant against haphazard use of "Left" as defining people, you are clearly capable of more refined description: Classical Liberals' prime source of morals is the social contract and the rule of law, rather than the rule of kings or gods or Allah.

And i'm going to add my obligatory rant againt people who insist on using antiquated forms of English to defend some nitpick stance.

English and the words in it change. A classical liberal != a modern day liberal or a leftist. In fact if you want to discuss liberals of the englightenment era you add the descriptor "classical". That's how you differentiate it and that's how normal people do it too.

Seriously, if all language was static we'd still be calling bundles of sticks fags, laughing at washed up beldams, and talking about the behoofs of nationalism.

I'm sure your more than capable and refined to figure out what redpillage was referring to.

My previous post can be ignored! I should have read IKE's post a bit more carefully, doh!

The guy is shocked he saw a drug deal in front of a church? Haha
Let me tell you something, I've been offered drugs countless times in Times Square out of all places, and in Europe this shit is even more liberal. I'm actually shocked at the fact that they are communicating with hand signals, wouldn't expect them to be that subtle in a continent where drugs are de facto legalized already.

(12-15-2016 09:07 AM)Gmac Wrote:  

In 5 years you will get 8.000 on the streets demanding a Caliphate.

In 15 years it will be 20.000.

And in 20 years it will be 100.000.

In 30 years they will stop demanding but enforcing.

That is how Islam works.

Can anyone here confirm that this is a genuine Swedish TV ad?

Spain is utterly fucked from an economic standpoint.

The real unemployment is over 20% for the entire population.
Below 30 you have the real unemployment above 50%. The statistics are rigged everywhere - anyone on some kind of bogus studies during unemployment benefits or anyone long-term unemployed is taken off the stats. Also they shift a lot in terms of various focus groups to raise it even more. For example - the US unemployment when measured with 1980 criteria would be closer to 20% - entire swath on people life off EBT and social security (or the black market and illegal work).

Spain has no jobs for the migrants except for some slave-labour like agriculture jobs. Those jobs used to go to Eastern Europeans or students a few years back. Now they go to the Africans at ridiculous rates.

Since the benefits in Spain are bad, then the other way is to go into crime and drugs. They will certainly control the entire underworld soon enough in Spain. Italy is another cookie due to the mafia which will keep their regions clear.

Europe will become one heck of a shithole soon enough - much less safe and enjoyable. But that is what the world masters want and hardly anyone seems to notice that, so I guess they deserve it in a way.

In 30 years Turkey will be more secular than Sweden, anyone wanna take a wager?

(12-15-2016 05:52 AM)redpillage Wrote:  I actually talked to the Spanish cops about it. Told them that those guys were using hand signals to communicate with each other across street corners.

Possible terrorist cells or simply drug dealers?

(12-15-2016 09:56 AM)rotekz Wrote:  Can anyone here confirm that this is a genuine Swedish TV ad?

Yes - enclosed in the end here you will find the tidbit by Barbara Specter about how the Jewish organizations are saving Europe by multiculturalism.

The multicultural propaganda goes deep - to the left Islam is like Christanity and every 70-IQ-Somali is just like a 106-IQ-Pole. There is no difference whatsoever and all will be living happily and working the same jobs, obeying the same rules and integrating happily ever after.

But that is how propaganda works - the difference between reality and fantasy diverges so much that no one believes in it anymore. Currently they clamp down on hate-speech ever more - in the future they will have you executed for questioning the diversity model - the left are always one step away from mass-murder.

(12-15-2016 10:07 AM)LikeABaller Wrote:  In 30 years Turkey will be more secular than Sweden, anyone wanna take a wager?

That is a trick question - both might be Caliphate - one Ottoman-Caliphate and Swedistan a more ISIS-style Somali caliphate. Of course Swedistan will be more radical, but that is just comparing Al-Quaeda and ISIS.

(12-15-2016 10:19 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

(12-15-2016 10:07 AM)LikeABaller Wrote:  In 30 years Turkey will be more secular than Sweden, anyone wanna take a wager?

That is a trick question - both might be Caliphate - one Ottoman-Caliphate and Swedistan a more ISIS-style Somali caliphate. Of course Swedistan will be more radical, but that is just comparing Al-Quaeda and ISIS.

There has been over 16 Turkish states in the last 2000 years. And none of them had radical leaning tendencies including the Ottoman Empire.
Not many people know but Ottomans were one of the first who decriminalized homosexual sex.

We have the appropriate natural defense mechanisms against radicalism.

But Kurds on the other hand are very radical. Not many people will know this but nearly all ISIS recruits from Turkey have been from Adiyaman which is a Kurdish inhabited area. They either go radical reft or radical right. Before PKK there was another Kurdish terrorist organization Hizbullah which was pro sharia. They are even more radical than ISIS on some levels.

It will come as a shock to many but there are many Kurdish ISIS fighters as well, islamist kurds join ISIS instead of PKK.

I gotta admit LikeABaller - many Turks oppose the new radical direction the government is set to take them:

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-38061785



The government had to shelve a new law which would have allowed for you to rape a hot 16yo and then avoid charges by marrying her. Bride hunting would have been so easy man! I guess the 8-9s would have a crowd of men following her - rape and marry combo deal!

The people protested this time and you can see that the guys who protested were secular.

Wait a few years - the globalists want Turkey to become a Caliphate. They will try again.

You see what you fail to understand are the dynamics. 100 years ago people used to get married when they were 14-15 and we didn't have these thirsty guys going around hitting on every breathing female they see. There are the problems of the new world, people don't get married until they are 30 and our culture doesn't accept ONS or hookups when that happens you have those "rapefugees" going around assulting your women because they can't take care of their sexual needs.

Even our so called islamist government is against people getting married early on. But they shouldn't be, there is nothing wrong getting married at 16. Your ancestors didn't wait until they were 30 either to get married. But your advantage is the sexual revolution which took place in the 1960's, before that premarital sex was rare even in the west. Our culture has not experienced a sexual revolution yet, those guys cannot fuck their own women without marrying so they try it with your women. But your women don't give them the time of the day because they are not what you call attractive. So what do they do? Minority of them go ahead and assault your women.

How can we solve this in Europe? Actually there is an easy way, legalize prostitution and subsidize it. In Germany where p4p is legal the sexual assault rates are way lower than Sweden, and this is a fact.

The news about that law manipulated. I'll tell you which cases it refers to.

Girl is 17 years old, fucks a guy who is 25.
Technically there is no constent because this is statutory rape girl is under 18. But she did not get raped in practice.
The family complains about the girls relationship to the prosecutor, the prosecutor presses charges. The guy goes the jail. Girl turns 18 and marries the man.
Guess what? The guy is still in jail even if the family says ok we pull our complaint. It turns into a public litigation.
Can you fucking believe it?

That law was to get rid of cases like this, the statutory rape charges would be dropped if the girl agreed to marry the GUY! She can't agree to marry the guy if she is under 18 can she?

Even red pill guys like you get very well played by the SJW media.

Oh and there are cases where the girl lives with the guy with an imam nikah(religious marriage). She is 16, the guy is 25. THe marriage is not official. She gives birth at 17. The hospital notifies the police an underage girl gave birth. They come and arrest the father. The baby is seperated from the father.
The breadwinner of the house goes to jail.

Don't tell me this is not fucked up?

Our government gave into the SJW's and pulled back this law. Fuck. We are in a era where no one is thinking rationally apart from a select few. You guys forgot how the media referred to Roosh as a rape activist did you? Aren't you familiar at how SJW's can twist everything?

What would be your response to these people?

https://www.facebook.com/usatoday/videos...978995667/

(12-15-2016 11:46 AM)IronShark Wrote:  What would be your response to these people?

https://www.facebook.com/usatoday/videos...978995667/

To whom? To the 4600 who supposedly drowned or the brainwashed cucks who spout nonsense of Assad "bombing his people"?

First of all I don't believe in the 4600 dead.
Second my policies would be a navy armada awaiting anyone trying to cross over and firing sharp if need be. There would be zero drownings that way. When people know that you get shot, then they don't come. Tough love is still based ultimately on love. What is happening now is just madness.
Otherwise you can also say - let us accept 3 billion into the West and share the bounty.

(12-15-2016 10:16 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

(12-15-2016 09:56 AM)rotekz Wrote:  Can anyone here confirm that this is a genuine Swedish TV ad?

Yes - enclosed in the end here you will find the tidbit by Barbara Specter about how the Jewish organizations are saving Europe by multiculturalism.

The multicultural propaganda goes deep - to the left Islam is like Christanity and every 70-IQ-Somali is just like a 106-IQ-Pole. There is no difference whatsoever and all will be living happily and working the same jobs, obeying the same rules and integrating happily ever after.

But that is how propaganda works - the difference between reality and fantasy diverges so much that no one believes in it anymore. Currently they clamp down on hate-speech ever more - in the future they will have you executed for questioning the diversity model - the left are always one step away from mass-murder.

Watched 20 seconds of it and that's about as much as I can tolerate these days. I've said it before and I'll say it again: If you accept all cultures on this planet as your own then you simply won't have ANY culture, just a mix of cultures battling each other for superiority (always causing societal friction and often resulting in civil war).

The Marxist Left in Sweden has fallen prey to a massive case of cognitive dissonance. By rejecting everything that represents traditional Sweden and at the same time embracing in particular Africans and Muslims they are going to wind up BEING less Swedish and instead more African/Muslim. I doesn't take a PhD in sociology to figure out that importing massive amounts of Muslims is going to make your country more Islamic. If you define SWEDEN has representing everything (except original Sweden) then you will invariably end up with nothing or worse.

Of course that is a choice they are free to make. If they for instance watch an old Swedish film or historical documentary about Sweden, compare it with one about the Middle East or Central Africa and then decide that the latter scenario would be preferable then it is their very prerogative. If you really think that a peaceful democratic wealthy sparsely inhabited country needs to be more like Baghdad or Nairobi then by all means have at it.





It increasingly seems like people have completely lost their minds. I'm tired of having a large portion of my contemporaries fail miserably in the basic common sense department. At this point I'm mentally checking out of the freak show.

BTW, of course I meant unemployment when talking about Spain. Youth unemployment (i.e. 28 - 25) continues to gyrate around the 50% mark. Why that country would want to bring in a single uneducated social services draining migrant is beyond me.

(12-15-2016 10:08 AM)sterling_archer Wrote:  

(12-15-2016 05:52 AM)redpillage Wrote:  I actually talked to the Spanish cops about it. Told them that those guys were using hand signals to communicate with each other across street corners.

Possible terrorist cells or simply drug dealers?

Nothing got blown up but you wouldn't be able to rule it out. The skills acquired as a drug dealer would benefit an aspiring terrorist.

(12-15-2016 09:41 AM)LikeABaller Wrote:  The guy is shocked he saw a drug deal in front of a church? Haha

Did I say I was shocked?

But we SHOULD be shocked and immediately take appropriate action. Failure to do so is the reason why we are finding ourselves in the mess we are today. Of course if you are a Muslim Turk the desecration of Christian churches means nothing to you. Perhaps if dealers would start peddling hard drugs to teenagers in front of mosques you would feel differently.

Quote:If you really think that a peaceful democratic wealthy sparsely inhabited country needs to be more like Baghdad or Nairobi then by all means have at it.

Hey! Nairobi is a pretty peaceful place, and from my experience quite a bit safer and more civilized than Malmo nowadays.

Delete

(12-15-2016 06:54 AM)iknowexactly Wrote:  And I must add my obligatory rant against haphazard use of "Left" as defining people, you are clearly capable of more refined description: Classical Liberals' prime source of morals is the social contract and the rule of law, rather than the rule of kings or gods or Allah.

Hey, this thread desperately needs your attention:

https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-52503.html