For them to colonize you they have to be smarter than you. Like how British colonized India with couple of thousand people, how Europeans controlled South Africa even though they were the minority. Outbreeding you is not colonizing if you're still running the show.

Well it looks like the average socialist European is not very smart then. Semantics aside the out-breeding and mass immigrant and migration is a form of conquest and SJW's and their ilk are un aware of it. Even after the displacement in areas, even after the terrorist attacks, rapes, and assaults, the powers that be and the average German are in complete denial of the truth. It is insanity. They are being played for fools and personally if I was a Turkish Muslim or any kind of muslim I'd be laughing my face off at the whole joke of a system of government in the EU.

I think Europe should build fortifications along the border with Turkey, increase naval patrols in the Aegean sea, and deport mass amounts of invaders. If the Turks have a problem with it they can stew in their filth. Back in the day if a nation was threatening to flood your nation with invaders you would take up arms and fight them off instead of welcoming in the invaders with open arms and smiles.

Europe and Turkey has to own up to its actions regarding the refugees. Both Turkey and Europe supported the seperatists. It's not fair for us to take all the refugees. It should be distrbuted evenly among the countries who supported the opposition.

(12-13-2016 04:49 PM)LikeABaller Wrote:  For them to colonize you they have to be smarter than you. Like how British colonized India with couple of thousand people, how Europeans controlled South Africa even though they were the minority. Outbreeding you is not colonizing if you're still running the show.

And how are you still running the show in your democracy when there are more Muslim invaders than natives? GTFO.

Your pro-Muslim crap is pretty transparent. Please, stay in Turkey since you don't like being an American. There's going to be Reconquista 2.0, whether the shadowy globalist NWO wants it or not.

Turkey is a security liability, their police and armed forces are corrupt as hell, and that has repercussions for Europe, when it comes to people trafficking and drugs/firearms.

If Turkey doesn't want the invaders than they simply should kick them out themselves to the Middle East instead of trying to push them on Europe.

(12-13-2016 05:02 PM)Malone Wrote:  

(12-13-2016 04:49 PM)LikeABaller Wrote:  For them to colonize you they have to be smarter than you. Like how British colonized India with couple of thousand people, how Europeans controlled South Africa even though they were the minority. Outbreeding you is not colonizing if you're still running the show.

And how are you still running the show in your democracy when there are more Muslim invaders than natives? GTFO.

Your pro-Muslim crap is pretty transparent. Please, stay in Turkey since you don't like being an American. There's going to be Reconquista 2.0, whether the shadowy globalist NWO wants it or not.

You're playing Age of Empires too much. In todays world reconquesta happens with money. Arabs are buying up property in the best areas of your cities. Real Estate prices in London skyrocketed even while there was no economic growth thanks to oil money. Spain is giving out EU citizenship to anyonewho buys real estate worth more than 500,000 euros, this amount is chump change to those middle eastern folks. But all your attention is directed to the refugees who have no leverage.

You've just supported my point quite well there, thanks.

(12-13-2016 05:04 PM)dain_bramage Wrote:  If Turkey doesn't want the invaders than they simply should kick them out themselves to the Middle East instead of trying to push them on Europe.

Easy for you to say. Most of them don't have passports. How can we send them back? Do you know how hard it is to legally send someone back without a proper document?
If we sent them back illegaly your SJW governments would carry the issue to the UN. For us to send them back your governments have to turn a blind eye to our actions which they don't. In the slightest violation they gang up on us. They send observers to our country nearly every month who go around the refugee camps. Easier said than done man.

Deportation proceeding is not a walk in the park. First you gave to confirm that person is a citizen of Syria. If he has no passport and says he is not a Syrian citizen there is no way you can prove otherwise. You have to contact the Syrian Embassy to find their legitimate record, which probably they wont respond to. I oversaw something like this, deportation order was made for some African guy, but we don't know where the hell he came from and he says he lost his passport. He wouldn't tell us where he came from. It's basically a huge loophole. We still couldn't deport him.

How is any of that our problem? Deal with your problems, and we'll deal with ours. If one of ours happens to be the Turks letting their problem leak over and become our problem, then the appropriate solution is a military one.

Them flocking to Europe is not our problem either, its your obligation to guard your borders. Per the rules of U.N these guys have freedom of movement if they want to leave our country. We can't force them to stay in, but you can force them to stay out. Understood?

Turkey sure did have the ability to genocide Armenians. They didn't have too much qualms about it all I think. I'm sure they can just kick migrants out by gun point. If there's enough of an incentive people can do some pretty intense stuff.

Theres no incentive in it for us to kick these guys out without their consent illegally. To kick them out legally we have to know which country they are from, obviously they're from Syria but legally most of them don't have passports and theres no way of us proofing they're from there. What we can do is we won't stop them when they try to cross to Europe with boats because from a legal viewpoint it's not our job to guard your borders. Why should we break international laws when theres nothing in it for us.

Nothing we do or say will change things. More rapefugees will keep coming in, more Muslims will become radicalized.
Globalists will keep on cucking for them. They will constitute a constant criminal violent underclass that gets pandered non-stop. When Russia turns Caliphate or descends into civil war, then you get your big war. At least that is a very likely option. The other option is almost worse - everyone getting chipped under constant surveillance. Either way Islam is to be banned - whether after a hot war and 1+ bio. Muslims dead or not is irrelevant. You cannot have a civilization anywhere with hundreds of Millions of violent low-IQ inbred psychopaths running around who consider themselves superior, rape the women and children and give us this:

Of course he does - and lukewarm born Muslims who don't know shit about their own religion claim that his utterings are un-islamic. They are not - that guy says it how it is. Deal with it - Islam is ultra-violent and designed to conquer the world or die trying. They will just die in this century one war or the other.

The reaction of the repressive state:

Yeah - why not simply desribe every shithead as a blonde 6'3 Swede when looking for a 5,6' Somali? That will stop being racist - you will never catch anyone, but at least it will not be racist.

Islamic tolerance:

More enrichment:

And this is potentially devestating. A Syrian refugee family applied for asylum in Lebanon to the Netherlands. All the courts have said to give the family asylum now and pay 4000 EUR PER DAY FOR EVERY DAY THAT FAMILY DOES NOT GET ASYLUM! When the decision upholds, then every rapefugee around the world can legally apply for asylum at any diplomatic agency of any EU country! Essentially 2 billion people could apply for asylum by next year and be ready to at least get their asylum procedure followed through in the EU! And all the judges have been for it - those are the traitors we have to deal with!

And trust me - LikaABaller - Turkey will become ever more radical. I was in Austria when the fake coup happened and almost all the girls going up to the demonstrations in Austria came out in Hijabs. The Islamic streak will become stronger and stronger and your countrymen will join the global Caliphate - especially when it appears that they are winning in the beginning. Only later will they be wiped out by the trillions of Chinese and Japanese combat-bots and super-high-tech weapons. Maybe Constantinople will truly be recreated. Or it will be a nice flat surface of glass shining in the sun.

But what is certain is that Islam will not survive this century, becuase the globalists have no use for it and their people. Their use as the destroyers of Western culture and bringers of doom will have run their course.

I doubt Turkey cared about legality when it killed all those Armenians or fought the Kurds. I bet a authoritarian regime can easily remove people it doesn't like unless those people are serving a purpose. Its disgusting that Turkey has been threatening Europe.

(12-13-2016 05:55 PM)dain_bramage Wrote:  I doubt Turkey cared about legality when it killed all those Armenians or fought the Kurds. I bet a authoritarian regime can easily remove people it doesn't like unless those people are serving a purpose. Its disgusting that Turkey has been threatening Europe.

You're asking my country to deport people who don't have official identification.This is an international crime. You can't deport someone just like that without knowing where they're from. It's a shame you are bringing up the Armenian Genocide when I never even mentioned the Holocaust. This has nothing to do with that.

Armenian genocide was a crime against the Geneva Convention right? I bet if there's enough pressure they can do something far less harmful. Turkey can close its borders if it wants to and if they feel threatened by the waves of migrants they have every right to remove them by pushing back over the border and into safe camp areas either in their control or others. They do not have to be sent to Europe . . Yup use the holocaust one, very creative. We are not talking about Germany committing a crime but rather migrants being used to cause trouble in Europe as a means of getting Turkey into an organization in which their people and government can make a profit off of. You know like the visas and such and basically the open borders in the Schengen zone that if Turkey joins can send wave after wave of immigrants/ migrants to soak up the welfare state in Germany. Come on.

Turkey is globalist controlled just like Germany. It has just a different role to play.

If it were not globalist controlled, then it should do the following:

1. Throw out globalist central banks, create interest-free truly independent currency and also revolutionize credit system similar to Swedish interest-free JAK-banks - at least Islam had it right when banning usury together with Christanity
2. go into independent shelved suppressed technologies -
3. go secular - keep Islam as a moral guideline, but kick it out anywhere and everywhere else, watch the radicals and fire them as soon as possible, make life tough for them, Islam is not your friend, but your biggest enemy, your lukewarm more moderate stance on it is not shared by the teachings and by many others
4. teach the country about not marrying any first, second or third cousins, no uncles or nieces either, tell women who get pregnant to stop fasting during Ramadan - especially water and give them all ample supplements - that ought to raise IQs by 15 points within 2 generations

But none of that will happen - Erdogan would be dead if he even discussed doing point 1. So nothing will come out of it. Turkey is as doomed as Europe - just a different role to play in the charade.

(12-13-2016 06:03 PM)dain_bramage Wrote:  Armenian genocide was a crime against the Geneva Convention right? I bet if there's enough pressure they can do something far less harmful. Turkey can close its borders if it wants to and if they feel threatened by the waves of migrants they have every right to remove them by pushing back over the border and into safe camp areas either in their control or others. They do not have to be sent to Europe . . Yup use the holocaust one, very creative. We are not talking about Germany committing a crime but rather migrants being used to cause trouble in Europe as a means of getting Turkey into an organization in which their people and government can make a profit off of. You know like the visas and such and basically the open borders in the Schengen zone that if Turkey joins can send wave after wave of immigrants/ migrants to soak up the welfare state in Germany. Come on.

Armenian Genocide was carried out by Enver Pasha who was even a bigger lunatic than Hitler was. Hitler was a fan of him and even praised him in his book. He didn't give two fucks about the Geneva convention. The world is not the same world as 100 years ago. Our prisons got raided with observers because some of the soldiers who were involved in the coup d'etat were beaten up in cells.

We have a huge SJW continent constantly reminding us about the importance of human rights. We have to abide by these rules whether we like it or not. Now if Europe stopped acting like crazed feminazi bitch and cut a secret deal with us things would work out better. What we could do is forcefully send all arabic speaking refugees back to Syria by buses without adhering to any deportation procedures.

But what will happen if we do this? All the SJW media will start attacking us, EU will bring it in front of the U.N, we might even face economic sanctions. While writing this I can imagine Huffingtonpost coming up with this headline. "Turkey commiting war crimes"



I'm asking you again, whats in it for us?

Well that is not the problem of the EU. They are in YOUR country, coming from YOUR country first. Simply deal with them like adults rather than blaming the problem on Europe that doesn't want your country to make a massive dick move. Its far easier to deal with people from a similar religious and cultural background than with people of a vastly different way of life. Therefore Turkey can keep them in its own borders or do some kind of SJW American backed interventionist move and send them away.

Secret deal? How about a big public "NO"?

Look.
There is a war going on in Syria, we can't close our borders. We have an open border policy for Syrian refugees. If we closed the borders it would be another war crime. It's not our fault. Erdogan said like 10000 times lets build a neutral buffer zone and declare a no fly zone and set up refugee camps in Syria. No one listened to him.

If you folks listened to Erdogan, you wouldn't be facing this migrant crisis. Trump also said lets declare a buffer zone and implement a no fly zone. But unfortunately he wasnt president at that time.

Its obvious the migrants are not wanted. Turkey let a lot of them already pass through onto Europe. Its blatantly obvious that they don't care about the EU one bit and want to extort money and advantages from it. Turkey has every right to maintain its own borders and population same as the EU should. Therefore Turkey could do some kind of humanitarian mission with expert propaganda on its side to cover it's ass. Its not impossible.

When there's a war on your door step its actually rather smart to close your border! LMAO

(12-13-2016 06:20 PM)dain_bramage Wrote:  Its obvious the migrants are not wanted. Turkey let a lot of them already pass through onto Europe. Its blatantly obvious that they don't care about the EU one bit and want to extort money and advantages from it. Turkey has every right to maintain its own borders and population same as the EU should. Therefore Turkey could do some kind of humanitarian mission with expert propaganda on its side to cover it's ass. Its not impossible.

Per U.N rules you cannot close your borders when there is a civil war going in your neighbor. You have to go ahead with an open door policy. We have an open border policy because of this, we have to let all of them in no questions asked or it would be a breach of U.N rules. This is the sole reason all countries who share a border with Syria have an open door policy. Most of them are coming to Turkey because it shares a border with the EU.

Yeah it does share a border with the EU and that border is on the way to free housing, free food, free laptops, etc,etc. Maybe the Turks can give them incentives to stay in Turkey or go back? Why does the EU have to been burdened with people that do not respect Europe? The EU should close and fortify its borders and make it known that if they want safety Turkey is a decent place that is not as far away as Germany is. If the migrants/refugees were really just looking for a safe place to go they would stick in Turkey and when conditions allow they could go back to their own country instead of becoming a long term danger and burden on Europe. Turkey needs to man up and the EU does as well.