What does calling yourself "liberal" even mean anymore? The fact he hates Islam and Feminism means he's all good in my book.

On another note, WHY the hell is the Italian navy sailing to about 15-20 miles of the Libyan coast to pick up thousands and thousands of african migrants every week? What is the logic behind all this? Why would they do it and what is the advantage? This is absolutely surreal. The turkish front seems somewhat contained but the african front is booming and lets not forget Africa has FAR MORE potential migrants than the Middle East. Terrible policy.

The people involved in picking up the invaders in the Med, are convinced, and I mean absolutely 100% convinced they are doing 'the right thing'.
The are completely, utterly brainwashed by "human rights" type rhetoric from NGOs who they see as being moral and good.
'I mean they must be good(the NGOs) if they're helping people escape poverty and oppression right?'
This is the way they see it, there's no convincing them otherwise, at least from my experience of interacting with some of them on Twitter.
They either ignore you when you call out their insane actions, or they respond with nonsensical 'Equality!' type answers.
'Why would you deny someone a better life, they're fleeing terrible conditions in Africa, those poor people'.
They don't respond to reason, they're bathing in the warm glow of feeling good that they're "helping people".
That's an addictive feeling and they're hooked on it like cocaine, there's almost no hope of shaking these people out of their utopian open borders worldview.
They don't see further than next week, in terms of the consequences of their actions, they are quintessential r-selected types, bent on pathological altruism, low/no threat recognition, exaggerated outgroup preference with no loyalty to their ingroup, only see the short term, with no ability to picture the extremely damaging medium and long term results of their actions.
There's also of course the navy guys, but they're also completely brainwashed into being white knights for the invaders and cucking their continent for the illegals.
It's a depressing situation for sure, one can only hope Merkel gets fucked out of office next year (and hopefully Renzi too) and get replaced by saner less traitorous leaders.
A Trump win would help, but it will need a number of things to go our way for this madness to be stopped and reversed.

Yes, that I do know and agree with. I was more refering to the Italian state and it's navy. They are just bringing MORE of a burden to their country, both socially and economically. What the hell do they gain from this? Feel good belly warmth? A state? It cannot be so simple. As for the NGOs their motivations are clear. I suppose the Renzi is just another puppet and he goes along the tide...

I think it's the modern day equivalent of saving their country in wartime, except this time they're "saving the Africans".
It's the warm feeling and self affirmation they get from believing they're doing good works.
I suspect there is monetary gain here too.
Maybe some of you military or ex-miltary guys know, do navy guys get 'overtime'?
Because this would translate into a fuckload of overtime, which would be a big incentive.
There's also the 'just following orders' aspect and herd behaviour.
In the same way that I'm sure there were people who were part of the National Socialists who disagreed with the persecution and killing of Jews and minorities, but they went along with it and did what they were told, because 'everyone else is doing it'.
It probably does the Navy guys no harm with the ladies either, when they tell a girl they're chatting up that 'they just saved a thousand poor African souls in the Med', the girl's eyes light up and it's Hi Ho Silver and back to her place for a right good rogering.

(09-06-2016 11:30 AM)LEMONed IScream Wrote:  Yes, that I do know and agree with. I was more refering to the Italian state and it's navy. They are just bringing MORE of a burden to their country, both socially and economically. What the hell do they gain from this? Feel good belly warmth? A state? It cannot be so simple. As for the NGOs their motivations are clear. I suppose the Renzi is just another puppet and he goes along the tide...

They got their orders, they have to do it. I am quite confident after in the last 2 years seeing tens of thousands of rapefugees they are red pill as fuck.

Thats why I don't like the military: no matter how brain dead the order you have to do it.

In this case we can't even talk about the rapefugee issue, these are mostly africans, while it is true that some african countries are politically unstable and undergoing dictatorships, where in the hell would we be willing or able to cope with the massive influx? We're talking about A LOT more people than the Middle Eastern front. The situation is unsustainable and is being made even more unsustainable. BY US! I've tried to steer clear from conspiracy theory for a long time but it is becoming apparent that this is being done on purpose, with specific goals and intent.

(09-06-2016 11:50 AM)LEMONed IScream Wrote:  In this case we can't even talk about the rapefugee issue, these are mostly africans, while it is true that some african countries are politically unstable and undergoing dictatorships, where in the hell would we be willing or able to cope with the massive influx? We're talking about A LOT more people than the Middle Eastern front. The situation is unsustainable and is being made even more unsustainable. BY US! I've tried to steer clear from conspiracy theory for a long time but it is becoming apparent that this is being done on purpose, with specific goals and intent.

It's not a conspiracy theory, it's a conspiracy FACT. We know it from the Soros hacks, there are many wealthy leftists funding NGO's to facilitate illegal immigration into Western nations.

All of these NGO's should be banned immediately. Russia already has.

The Africans are not fleeing for their lives, as the NGOs and Facebook dwellers would tell us.
Yes a lot of African countries are relatively poor and places like Eritrea have conscription and what's described as a 'repressive regime', so they might have more cause than most to leave the country, but they're not just hopping over the border to the next country, nope they come to Europe of course, despite the fact that there's many safe countries in Africa much closer than Europe.
So the 'poor people fleeing dictatorships and oppression' narrative doesn't hold much, if any water.
The only place where you could possible argue that point is for Eritrea but even in their case, when people are leaving the country, they're overwhelmigly choosing not to stay in safe countries much closer to them in Africa, but instead to trek north (again aided by NGOs and sometimes charities, with transport, food, etc) so as to leach off the "rich Europeans" with their foolishly generous welfare states.

No no. You mistake my intent. I do not consider Soros and the like to be a part of a conspiracy theory, their deeds are widely documented and I have read about his and other cucks feats. I am referring to some more occult plan being concocted by state actors and international institutions. The more obvious issue could be nation-state erosion and the fact that States are increasingly ran like corporations, or for a better example. A farm, if the current sheep do not breed one replaces them. The obvious flaw here is that the "replacements" are leaps and bounds behind those they will replace and will most likely remain a hidrance rather than an advantage in the coming years. This is the part I cannot connect together. Surely they do not expect everything to work out just fine? The only certainty is a bleak future if it carries on like this.

(09-06-2016 11:58 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

(09-06-2016 11:50 AM)LEMONed IScream Wrote:  In this case we can't even talk about the rapefugee issue, these are mostly africans, while it is true that some african countries are politically unstable and undergoing dictatorships, where in the hell would we be willing or able to cope with the massive influx? We're talking about A LOT more people than the Middle Eastern front. The situation is unsustainable and is being made even more unsustainable. BY US! I've tried to steer clear from conspiracy theory for a long time but it is becoming apparent that this is being done on purpose, with specific goals and intent.

It's not a conspiracy theory, it's a conspiracy FACT. We know it from the Soros hacks, there are many wealthy leftists funding NGO's to facilitate illegal immigration into Western nations.

All of these NGO's should be banned immediately. Russia already has.

(09-06-2016 12:24 AM)Enigma Wrote:  

(09-05-2016 10:46 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  Sargon of Akkad may be an anti-Game true liberal, but he clearly points out the lunacy of all current migration policies & marxist leftists. Good vid. We have way more in common with men like him, who are anti-cultural marxism, anti-feminism, anti-Islam, anti-immigration (of the current kind) etc.

I don't want to derail the thread, but I'm curious what makes you say Sargon of Akkad is "anti-game".

I don't follow much of his stuff, but I know that he had a lengthy approach thread on this forum and never gave the impression of being a game denialist. But I've heard other people make comments about him here and there, so I'm wondering what the specifics are.

As a classical liberal myself ( there is no divine right of kings, people should be free to behave as they wish as long as not impinging on freedom of others)
--- I don't see why people would think I would sympathize with those who throw gays off high buildings and feel free to rape/harass non-Islamic women. Retrograde Islam seems the most anti-liberal of religious delusions.
-- Rabid howling about how bad "liberalism" is only alienates those who see mass immigration as a threat to freedom in developed countries. Liberalism does not necessarily equal favoring open borders. If one distinguishes and differentiates what one is talking about ,and defines issues objectively (i.e. how many immigrant to let in and how to screen) as opposed to using jingoistic, lazy, unclear crap terminology ( "Cucks") you might find more allies and alienate fewer people.

(09-06-2016 11:58 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

(09-06-2016 11:50 AM)LEMONed IScream Wrote:  In this case we can't even talk about the rapefugee issue, these are mostly africans, while it is true that some african countries are politically unstable and undergoing dictatorships, where in the hell would we be willing or able to cope with the massive influx? We're talking about A LOT more people than the Middle Eastern front. The situation is unsustainable and is being made even more unsustainable. BY US! I've tried to steer clear from conspiracy theory for a long time but it is becoming apparent that this is being done on purpose, with specific goals and intent.

It's not a conspiracy theory, it's a conspiracy FACT. We know it from the Soros hacks, there are many wealthy leftists funding NGO's to facilitate illegal immigration into Western nations.

All of these NGO's should be banned immediately. Russia already has.

NGOs being used as intel hubs, agent infiltration/exfiltration, or to spread revolutionary political agendas is as old as the concept of the NGO. You could argue that's the whole point of the creation of the NGOs to begin with. The whole concept came from government initiatives to fund and allocate resources from "non government" sources into organizations that would facilitate foreign policy agendas.

This modus operandi is so entrenched in these organizations that I really doubt the vast majority are really about whatever cause they claim to be about to begin with. It's all bullshit.

It's no longer even a secret most of the developing world (in asia especially) has a deep distrust of these NGOs.

NGOs were a big part of the golden triangle drug trade in SEA also.

They were also used as covert operations in the 90's to try and "crown" a western business friendly leader in Russia after perestroika.

I don't post here too much anymore but something caught my eye today, in case somebody had any faith left in western europe at all: While the French, on their infinite naivety, decided to take out any reference of race or ethnicity from every single place including laws and records, there is something they can't really change: Economic reality and medical truths:

There's no point in screening for sickle cell anemia on newborn children, unless they are under a risk factor, and the sole risk factor is having at least one parent coming from sub-saharan africa.

Then I found this : http://invs.santepubliquefrance.fr//pmb/.../PMB_10831

That orange crap is the Paris Metropolitan area, at 60%, in 2010. I couldn't find the source but the number for 2015 is between 65% and 75%. Let that shit sink it, it's official, France is done for.

ETA to New Detroit: About 10 years.

(09-06-2016 05:04 PM)Volk Wrote:  I don't post here too much anymore but something caught my eye today, in case somebody had any faith left in western europe at all: While the French, on their infinite naivety, decided to take out any reference of race or ethnicity from every single place including laws and records, there is something they can't really change: Economic reality and medical truths:

There's no point in screening for sickle cell anemia on newborn children, unless they are under a risk factor, and the sole risk factor is having at least one parent coming from sub-saharan africa.

Then I found this : http://invs.santepubliquefrance.fr//pmb/.../PMB_10831

That orange crap is the Paris Metropolitan area, at 60%, in 2010. I couldn't find the source but the number for 2015 is between 65% and 75%. Let that shit sink it, it's official, France is done for.

ETA to New Detroit: About 10 years.

I have seen some of your posts, apparently you have spent some time in Hungary, I have seen the Orban speeches and all that stuff, but I don't know the situation on the ground, how do Hungarian people think of all this, do you think there is hope for those central european countries?

It depends. Hungarians are very wary of external threats but they've never known an internal one like that besides the gypsies. If they return to their early 2000 behavior when it was common for them to kick gypsies out with Molotov cocktails, then they stand a chance. At the same time their most consumed media is left wing as fuck, so they have to learn about that as well. The attitude is there and they really don't like migrants but they need to rediscover active resistance and the use of force.

I find it ironic when I see pictures Europeans being killed and beating bleeding by immigrants, while at the same time talking down Americans 2 Amendment and gun ownership, Milo says, around the world everybody hate America, until shit hit the fan, then they come crying for help.

Remember the AFD win recently?

This one caught my eye - I read also Israeli newspapers because they have slightly more truth in it and are more Red Pill than the Western one.





“The AfD is not an option for Germany, but an indictment of Germany,” Schuster said.

Quote:The AFD, “with their tactics of stirring up resentment against minorities and offering slogans rather than solutions, has unfortunately been successful,” he said.

Given the AfD’s electoral success, the “established parties” should “focus more closely on the concerns and needs of the people,” Schuster said, adding that “clearly many voters are not aware or play down the fact that the AfD do not clearly distance themselves from right-wing extremists, in Mecklenburg-Western Pomerania or anywhere else in the country.”

Schuster also said that he was “gratified” that the National Democratic Party (NPD) would not be represented in the state legislature.

“Nevertheless, the NPD continues to be a base” for what he called “right-wing extremists” and as a result, Schuster said, the Jews would “continue to press for a ban on the NPD as the correct and necessary thing to do.”

This is once again a total disregard for the average Jew. In Sweden Jewish people are leaving by the thousands because of Muslim migration.

And those buggers instantly tie AFD as well as Pegida with Neonazis making it appear as if another Holocoust is around the corner.

I will state this clearly: If 2 mio. Israelis came marching to Germany then nothing would be happening, zit, nada - there would be virtually zero problems.

But guess who is preparing another holocoust?

   

So here you have Jewish organizations actively pumping millions of people who will make life hell for Jewish people. Why would they do it, when 90% of their own people will feel negative consequences in their lives soon?

Again you have the same crap as during the 1930s where big Jewish capital even financed the NSDAP (uncovered by Stanford historian Antony Sutton).

But this time I fear the elite has even bigger plans - when the rest of the world has the same Islamic terrorist security risk as Israel, then the ultimate holocoust can be started - and this time it will be a Muslim holocoust.

Only by that measure does it make sense why Soros and upper echelon Jewish organizations WANT MILLIONS OF MUSLIMS TO COME TO EUROPE. They know that Jewish folk will have to move out of those countries soon (as is happening in Sweden already). They know that some may even experience violence. But the globalist plans are long-term and they don't care about the bottom 95% of their people either. They did not care during WWII and they did not care when they refused the purchase of Jews from Nazis (as documented by Rabbi who went to London and New York and even wrote a book about it - it was not lack of money, the Rabbi later realized that the top Jewry is complicit in the murder of the European Jews).

That is the dirty underbelly of the history and I fear it is going to repeat itself, but this time with a bigger purge of hundreds of millions of Muslims - a slaughter that could have easily been prevented.

Damn - I wish I had a spaceship like in NO MAN'S SKY. I would only come back once every 10 years to see how much more fucked up the world has become.

Fascinating stuff Zel, cheers.
I've been watching more of Alan Watt's stuff and it aligns broadly with what you're saying above.
Do you think all or many of the German establishment party politicians are in on this?
Or are the majority of them so heavily indoctrinated in Globalist open borders groupthink that that's all they know and they never stop to question the sanity of what's going on?

(09-07-2016 04:46 AM)amity Wrote:  Fascinating stuff Zel, cheers.
I've been watching more of Alan Watt's stuff and it aligns broadly with what you're saying above.
Do you think all or many of the German establishment party politicians are in on this?
Or are the majority of them so heavily indoctrinated in Globalist open borders groupthink that that's all they know and they never stop to question the sanity of what's going on?

Depends from case to case - the top has to know much more, be much more initiated and asked to be on board. They have to know the truth in order to sidetrack the core questions and then be informed what direction to go forward.

The mid- and low-tier politicians are like 99.9% of journalists - they know where the wind blows, are reprimanded when they tell something non-PC and generally are only opportunists - in effect they are indoctrinated and willing to go along with everything. Those that oppose the party line are ousted quickly enough and that has an automatic controlling effect on the rest.

It is the same with journalist offices - as other renegade journalists have reported - they learn quickly that when they propose to do a report on Islamic rape gangs or other similar issues, then the editor blows it off and those topics die. Also the entire academic world blows in the same horn, so essentially it is built one brick on the other.

All non-PC thinkers either repress those thoughts or never reach the upper levels of power. That is by the way true about all venues including business and fortune 500 companies. CEOs don't have to be the best, but rather have to be on board with the globalist agendas.

UK to Build a Wall in Calais to keep Migrants out!

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/...29386.html

Quote:The UK is going to build a 13ft wall in Calais to block refugees from crossing the channel, the Government has announced.

"People are still getting through," immigration minister Robert Goodwill told the Home Affairs Select Committee.

"We have done the fence, now we are doing the wall."

Sounds like someone has been inspired by our God Emperor.

Make England Glorious Again!

The walls a good step forward, I have no idea how it helps cause I can't picture the geography of the area, I thought the issue was that the migrants would stow themselves away on lorries and that's how they were smuggled across. But anything to help the situation right now.

I mean if the situation really gets out of hand they could just bomb the damn jungle, I mean.... look at it, it's a camp, that they are all concentrated in...

(10-28-2015 08:54 AM)Wrec Wrote:  13. 9. 2015 Austria likens Hungary's Refugee Policy to Nazis
19. 9. 2015 Romania criticises Hungary for new border fence
25. 9. 2015 Slovenia surprised by Hungary's decision to Fence Border
29. 9. 2015 Croatia criticises Hungary for fence plan


19.10.2015 Croatia considers fence to tackle migrant crisis
24.10.2015 Serbia, Bulgaria and Romania have threatened to erect border fences to stem refugee flows
28.10.2015 Austria to Build Fence on Slovenia Border to Slow Flow of Migrants
28.10.2015 Slovenia to build fence if EU fails to help over migrants

Do you guys remember this post?
Now Britain joined the party
7.9.2016 Britain to start building 13 ft wall in French port of Calais to keep out migrants

When eastern european countries build fences, its racist, xenophobic, and "not european". When west european countries build fences, everything is OK.
Sort of double standards.
Nothing surprises me anymore...

(09-07-2016 07:35 AM)Wrec Wrote:  Do you guys remember this post?
Now Britain joined the party
7.9.2016 Britain to start building 13 ft wall in French port of Calais to keep out migrants

When eastern european countries build fences, its racist, xenophobic, and "not european". When west european countries build fences, everything is OK.
Sort of double standards.
Nothing surprises me anymore...

They constantly shit on EE, it just tiring at this point. But what can you except of the disgusting leaders and press of the West?

While I hope it works, I question the effectiveness of a wall in this case. What they really need is security that's authorized to shoot trespassers.

(09-07-2016 09:24 AM)Mike5055 Wrote:  While I hope it works, I question the effectiveness of a wall in this case. What they really need is security that's authorized to shoot trespassers.

The military is supposed to do just that - to prevent unlawful border crossings. Unfortunately there is no political will to allow the military to do its job and enforce the inviolability of borders.