(10-27-2015 02:26 PM)NewMeta Wrote:  Probably because the muslims that migrate here have an alternative agenda to push (to populate and conquer), for which there is already a lot of existing infrastructure hence they are getting a lot of milage out of the snowball effect it's been causing over time. And yes also because it's easy (wellfare). Ones that go to the US probably, generally, actually want to adopt a western lifestyle and so attempt to integrate better.

There are of course some muslims that integrate well here, hell i've been through school with them and there are plenty that play by the rules, unfortunately the peaceful minority are irrelevant here.

I can't speak for the US but in Canada the problem with the so-called 'moderate muslims' is that they allow the radicals to dominate the narrative. It may be that they don't think it's a big deal, or they're going along just to get along, but I suspect it's something else: when the day comes that sharia courts are in effect, they're afraid they'll be singled out as religion traitors and disciplined accordingly.

This is why I say that subversive movements should recruit hot women into their ranks. Don't give them leadership positions except in the most extraordinary cases, but women will always be a draw for men to do things.

It reminds me of a few things in The Moon is a Harsh Mistress (and, charmingly, what I wrote in my own book). The women were active participants in the revolt. There were groups like the "Lades from Hades" and the "Lysistrata Corps." They gave the men crucial support and it did work. The main character said that seeing the female lead's face gave him more impetus to revolt than his hatred of the ruling powers on the moon. The incident that sparked the revolts in the book (and in my own!) were incidents of violence involving women.

An appropriate real life example is Joan of Arc. She did more to save France from foreign takeover than any of its kings or generals.

Women are an asset that should be used.

(10-27-2015 05:14 PM)Libertas Wrote:  This is why I say that subversive movements should recruit hot women into their ranks. Don't give them leadership positions except in the most extraordinary cases, but women will always be a draw for men to do things.

It reminds me of a few things in The Moon is a Harsh Mistress (and, charmingly, what I wrote in my own book). The women were active participants in the revolt. There were groups like the "Lades from Hades" and the "Lysistrata Corps." They gave the men crucial support and it did work. The main character said that seeing the female lead's face gave him more impetus to revolt than his hatred of the ruling powers on the moon. The incident that sparked the revolts in the book (and in my own!) were incidents of violence involving women.

An appropriate real life example is Joan of Arc. She did more to save France from foreign takeover than any of its kings or generals.

Women are an asset that should be used.

Women have more to lose if Europe went under. The images of Kurdish women on the front line against ISIS should be a warning to them but I am still haunted by the Swedish feminist who blamed White men for the gang rape that she suffered by 'exotic' men. She claimed that racism destroyed these men's self-esteem which made them rape.

Journalist Receives a Stoning in one of Sweden's 55 No-Go Zones

Quote:A Swedish journalist attempting to make a movie about the residents of a Swedish no go zone and their habit of throwing stones at police has herself been attacked and had stones thrown at her as she attempted to film.

“They thought we crossed the limit and that we were standing on their land,” journalist Valentina Xhaferi told Swedish newspaper Expressen.

Ms Xhaferi planned on investigating police reports that any officer trying to patrol the Stockholm district of Tensta – with its foreign born population now over 70 per cent – would be pelted with rocks. She wanted to get behind the black headlines and find out what was really troubling the poor residents.

http://www.redicecreations.com/article.php?id=34611

Australia is extremely lucky in that you can't just walk there.

New Zealand is even better off because Australia is in the way when immigrants go boating.

I was born in the UK. I have a coveted passport, but I'll never use it.

(10-28-2015 01:19 AM)N°6 Wrote:  “They thought we crossed the limit and that we were standing on their land,”

(10-28-2015 01:19 AM)N°6 Wrote:  we were standing on their land

(10-28-2015 01:19 AM)N°6 Wrote:  their land

(10-28-2015 01:19 AM)N°6 Wrote:  their

It seems Austria is starting to build *wait for it* a fence!

Here 60Minutes on rising sharia. Interesting when she talks with a British sharia patrol.

Despite being born in Britain you have the guy only saying: "If I was born in a stable, then that would not make a horse. Thus I am a Muslim first."

He wants all women covered from head to toe, he wants thieves hands cut off etc. - he is a true believer. His opinion of freedom of opinion is to tell the journalist to cover up. They also think that Western systems are backwards - oh - I might add, that all East Asian systems like China, Korea or Japan are backwards too.

What I have come to understand is that the reason why "moderate" Muslims won't speak out against such more extreme ones is, because the more radical ones are simply living more according to the Quran. They are in effect the more believing ones, the more pious and virtuous according to their holy book. Criticizing them is like criticizing a more pious man - also it helps that they are violent and can kill you for criticizing them (which is also stated in the Quran - those who disrespect the holy path should be killed.)

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In other news - Austria is building a "structure" - not a border fence - that should limit the movements of the migrants - couple of miles left and right across the border.

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Also Poland's Kaczynski and PiS had uttered an interesting statement and his party is right. The EU order the first 120.000 refugees distributed, but what every country agreed to is not the real numbers. PiS claims correctly that a country agreeing to the numbers is agreeing to a percentage:



That means that from 124.000 it may just be 7000. But after given agreement, then the next batches will be distributed according to the percentage. 5,6% of 5 million by the end of next year will mean 280.000. If the number rises to 10 million, then it's 560.000 poor starving refugee men.

That is why it's better to not accept even one. I will be gone from Poland when 500.000 Muslims move here from Arab states. This country won't go down like Sweden - there will be blood on the streets.

The Polish youth especially between 18-24 is shifting more right than ever. I guess some of them have been living and working in Western countries and they do have eyes to see:


33% of young Poles consider themselves as right-leaning, 12% even as extreme right, 9% and falling are left.

Good - that is how you see how much resistance there will be, though for the Western media this is a disaster, since the indoctrination has not taken.

(10-28-2015 03:33 AM)Glaucon Wrote:  It seems Austria is starting to build *wait for it* a fence!

Indeed! Funny to see how important it was for them to underline that "it is not to close the borders, but to control them" In the end the borders must be sealed... but it sure ain`t easy to wake up from REM-sleep.

Ah - cultural enrichment in Berlin schools:





560 attacks on teachers alone in Berlin last year! Just in Berlin alone!





That is what happens when the second and third generation enriches the schools and makes it a living hell for teachers and poor locals who can't afford to move away.

A country that went from the Prussian educational system to multi-culturalism 85-IQ crap of violence and total lack of discipline:

(10-27-2015 02:07 PM)Wutang Wrote:  Muslim immigrants tend to immigrate pretty well in the United States. You get some Black Swan events such as the guys who did 9/11 or shot up Ft. Hood but you don't see the constant crime and rioting and general disorderly behavior you see with Muslims in Europe. Sometimes I wonder if the difference is how coddled the Muslim immigrants in Europe are (being given free housing and a monthly stipend on arrival) with no expectations to integrate while in the US there's more of an insistence that you learn English and interact with the wider population.

It's all good and well - those guys speak perfect American English, look and dress like the average black American, but then when you ask those "moderates" in detail, then you realize that they it's something else altogether:





Moderate Muslims in my opinion are either secular ones or highly spiritual ones like the Sufis who are more akin to Christian Franciscans - anyone else is on a slippery slope to sharia. Somehow there is a mental disconnect where they don't see that their very religious doctrine creates shit-holes like Somalia and that it wasn't exploitation by the West which "destroyed their countries". But that pill is too hard to swallow.

(10-28-2015 03:33 AM)Glaucon Wrote:  It seems Austria is starting to build *wait for it* a fence!

Got a link? This would be YUUUUUUGEEE!

If Slovenia and the other Balkan countries follow suit Germany and Sweden would have no choice but to fuck off.

And I doubt the Greeks would keep letting them come if they can't waive them north.

A good sign.

But the Italian front continues, though I had heard the numbers have lessened a bit because the preferred route is through Turkey now. Not sure how much I believe that because many people would need to cross through Syria to get there.

There is no plane for a fence, just some rumours. But Austria closed the border to Slovenia. Its more a human wall with soldiers.

One can only hope that special groups start passing out illegal weapons to far right groups. I'm hoping there's a purge coming to Europe.

All this talk of Islamophobia is annoying. Where's the discussion of Christianophobia amongst Muslim groups?

(10-28-2015 08:15 AM)Parzival Wrote:  There is no plane for a fence, just some rumours. But Austria closed the border to Slovenia. Its more a human wall with soldiers.

Wrong, it is confirmed. But its on certain parts of the border with Slovenia

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2015/10/...ants-.html

(10-28-2015 03:53 AM)Frekkesen Wrote:  

(10-28-2015 03:33 AM)Glaucon Wrote:  It seems Austria is starting to build *wait for it* a fence!

Indeed! Funny to see how important it was for them to underline that "it is not to close the borders, but to control them" In the end the borders must be sealed... but it sure ain`t easy to wake up from REM-sleep.

Fuck them, fuck them all.

Too little, too late.
I could go on an epic rant here, but what´s the point anyway.
I´ll just quote myself if you guys don´t mind. Look at the dates:

(09-13-2015 12:46 PM)Celtic_Austrian Wrote:  I don´t know what to think of that. Because this comes down to one thing, Austria is fucked. Our idiot of a chancellor (widely regarded as the worst ever and an imbecile, besides being Merkel´s lapdog) just announced that this comes as a total surprise, nobody could have foreseen this and Austria will nevertheless not reintroduce border controls, because human rights! After hearing that, the Czech Republic has just stated that they will also intensify border controls, as they don´t want the migrants to use the country as an alternative route to Germany, and Slovakia has announced to vote against a refugee quota system for the EU. The Hungarians (whose migrant policies our beloved chancellor recently compared to the Holocaust (!)) will finish and fortify their border fence in a few days, the migrants will switch to a route from Serbia via Croatia and Slovenia to Austria, this time through the Southern flank.
What´s the result? Austria is left over and will be the new destination for the migrant hordes. Based on recent events, about 10,000 a day.
Fan-fucking-tastic.

(09-13-2015 01:47 PM)Celtic_Austrian Wrote:  As of now, everything still wide open. Our government´s strategy of letting them all in and then sending them on to Germany just spectacularly backfired.
Our socialdemocratic chancellor stated an hour ago that there will be no border controls. His Christian-conservatice coalition partner said they will follow Germany´s example. They spent the whole day in emergency crisis meetings, and the atmosphere is apparently very tense. Sooner or later they will have to give in to the silent majority´s pressure and close the borders. Or the far-right wing FPÖ will crush them in the next elections, they already have around 30% of the vote right now.

They are our chancellor, our minister of foreign affairs, our minister of defense, our interior minister.

They are the bureaucrats, the experts, specialists and analysts in our ministries.

They get paid a fortune, from our tax money, and it doesn´t matter if they fail or succeed, after their period of service they´ll receive even better paid positions as members of the board of directors or advisors in a multinational corporation or in the EU.

They rule this country, they are the government.

I am a lazy and mediocre business student trying to finish his long overdue bachelor´s degree, and after I get it I´ll probably have to go around and suck a dick to hopefully score an unpaid internship, if I´m lucky.

Yet I was right, and they were wrong.

It´s not hard to do, I´m not proud of it, every reasonable person with some common sense could have made the same predictions months ago, and probably did.

But as clearly demonstrated, I apparently know more about international relations, politics and human behaviour than them, than the government which is responsible for fate and fortune of our country and people.

Yet, in this life, where are they, and where am I.

Makes you think.

And leaves only two options: Either we are ruled by idiots, or we are ruled by traitors.

Fantastic.

(10-28-2015 08:29 AM)Frekkesen Wrote:  

(10-28-2015 08:15 AM)Parzival Wrote:  There is no plane for a fence, just some rumours. But Austria closed the border to Slovenia. Its more a human wall with soldiers.

Wrong, it is confirmed. But its on certain parts of the border with Slovenia

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2015/10/...ants-.html

Quote:Austria, a strong critic of building of fences to keep out migrants, announced plans Wednesday to erect barriers along parts of its own border, but insisted the move was meant solely to bring order into the flow of people entering the country.

Quote from the article. So no border will get closed.

13. 9. 2015 Austria likens Hungary's Refugee Policy to Nazis
19. 9. 2015 Romania criticises Hungary for new border fence
25. 9. 2015 Slovenia surprised by Hungary's decision to Fence Border
29. 9. 2015 Croatia criticises Hungary for fence plan


19.10.2015 Croatia considers fence to tackle migrant crisis
24.10.2015 Serbia, Bulgaria and Romania have threatened to erect border fences to stem refugee flows
28.10.2015 Austria to Build Fence on Slovenia Border to Slow Flow of Migrants
28.10.2015 Slovenia to build fence if EU fails to help over migrants

The enrichment that keeps on giving... I see riots coming

Men leaving women and children. The women folk don't like it one bit. Might be a dupe because this thread is so long.

^^^^ Syria's Title IX compliance officer is going to come down so hard on those men!

Meanwhile Germany has accelerated deportations of rejected asylum seekers, flying 83 of them back to Kosovo.

10 000 incomming per day means 416.(6) per hour.
Congratulations, in a day you have deported the inflow for 12 minutes.
That'll really show them.

Quote:A refugee raped a three-year-old child - the Migration Board tried to conceal the incident

Quote:A male refugee in an asylum center in Tingsryd municipality in Sweden, on Tuesday raped a three-year-old child.

Responsible of the asylum center learned about the rape during the day, and in collaboration with the Swedish Migration Board had decided to move the man from the accommodation to protect him.

They had also chosen not to contact the police in order to conceal this incident.

However it was revealed when friends of the girl's mother contacted the police. Eight hours later.

http://speisa.com/modules/articles/index...ident.html

Well - the interesting thing is that Islam has interesting ages of "consent" for women in marriage. Raping of infidels does not have any age limits or constraints whatsoever.

   

You can marry a girl who is one day old and in both sects - even Shia you can have a blowjob or have your dick stroked by her baby-legs. Sex is permitted whenever the girl can "take it".

In the video you will have some scholars defend this - they clearly claim that they may not like it, but it is what the Quran says. And since the Quran is the will of God then sex with a 2 year old is allowed. I guess that 3 year old was able to "take it".





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This video is also interesting - a bit old, but fitting:





Son of Ex-HAMAS leader who converted to Christianity claims that Islam is a mental poison. I am fully in agreement with that man. He also differentiates between Muslims and Islam. Muslims overall are his people, he loves them, and they have many wonderful qualities. It's just the doctrine of Islam that is poisoning their minds and fucks up their lives.

I agree with him and applaud him for stating the obvious.

Is there a way to integrate someone who takes marriage from birth seriously or thinks that all Western women are sluts? Nope - just throw him out - there is no hope for him:

   

From the Jerusalem Post:



http://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/German-int...ism-430058




Also, this comment in the article cracked me up:

Quote:The radical Muslim wants to cut your head off. The moderate Muslim wants the radical Muslim to cut your head off.

(10-28-2015 08:54 AM)Wrec Wrote:  13. 9. 2015 Austria likens Hungary's Refugee Policy to Nazis
19. 9. 2015 Romania criticises Hungary for new border fence
25. 9. 2015 Slovenia surprised by Hungary's decision to Fence Border
29. 9. 2015 Croatia criticises Hungary for fence plan


19.10.2015 Croatia considers fence to tackle migrant crisis
24.10.2015 Serbia, Bulgaria and Romania have threatened to erect border fences to stem refugee flows
28.10.2015 Austria to Build Fence on Slovenia Border to Slow Flow of Migrants
28.10.2015 Slovenia to build fence if EU fails to help over migrants

And you know why they're doing this?

Because they know the truth. Rapes, murders, attacks, pillaging, destruction, disease on such a scale that only war could provide an adequate comparison.

These true numbers are being suppressed for very good reasons because if you, as a father were told your daughter/wife now faces an increase of several thousand percent in rape probability then you're bound to do something.