A wall wouldn't be necessary if all Lorry drivers could channel the Trolling Talents that this Dutch hero has!

(09-06-2016 10:42 AM)LEMONed IScream Wrote:  On another note, WHY the hell is the Italian navy sailing to about 15-20 miles of the Libyan coast to pick up thousands and thousands of african migrants every week? What is the logic behind all this? Why would they do it and what is the advantage? This is absolutely surreal. The turkish front seems somewhat contained but the african front is booming and lets not forget Africa has FAR MORE potential migrants than the Middle East. Terrible policy.

This is what drives me crazy about Liberal stupidity. Can't they see that in the long run they are doing much more harm?
This policy actually encourages Africans to get into rickety boats knowing that they have to make it a few miles out to sea and that the Italian navy is patrolling to save their asses. It's like paying ransom to kidnappers, it only encourages more of the same activity. We seem intent on doubling down on our stupidity in the west.

(09-07-2016 11:27 AM)Brother Abdul Majeed Wrote:  

(09-06-2016 10:42 AM)LEMONed IScream Wrote:  On another note, WHY the hell is the Italian navy sailing to about 15-20 miles of the Libyan coast to pick up thousands and thousands of african migrants every week? What is the logic behind all this? Why would they do it and what is the advantage? This is absolutely surreal. The turkish front seems somewhat contained but the african front is booming and lets not forget Africa has FAR MORE potential migrants than the Middle East. Terrible policy.

This is what drives me crazy about Liberal stupidity. Can't they see that in the long run they are doing much more harm?
This policy actually encourages Africans to get into rickety boats knowing that they have to make it a few miles out to sea and that the Italian navy is patrolling to save their asses. It's like paying ransom to kidnappers, it only encourages more of the same activity. We seem intent on doubling down on our stupidity in the west.

For them is all about short term gratification. Is like a drug, they never think about long term plan, they want to feel good about saving this people now, but not the consequences.

(09-07-2016 11:27 AM)Brother Abdul Majeed Wrote:  This is what drives me crazy about Liberal stupidity. Can't they see that in the long run they are doing much more harm?

More than once I have tried to explain why I NEVER donate clothes, shoes, or cash to those NGOs that distribute "aid" to poor third world nations. I go through how the aid actually makes things worse and hurts economic development:

i.e. Free rice sent to Haiti put local farms out of business. Free clothing put local small tailors and textile makers out of business.

My explanation was in direct conflict with their virtue signaling. My words were blocked out or shouted down.

Trying to explain how encouraging waves of boat people is also a bad idea will be just as fruitless. You can't reason with emotional thinkers. There is no way to win an argument based on emotion.

(09-07-2016 07:47 AM)Glaucon Wrote:  

(09-07-2016 07:35 AM)Wrec Wrote:  Do you guys remember this post?
Now Britain joined the party
7.9.2016 Britain to start building 13 ft wall in French port of Calais to keep out migrants

When eastern european countries build fences, its racist, xenophobic, and "not european". When west european countries build fences, everything is OK.
Sort of double standards.
Nothing surprises me anymore...

They constantly shit on EE, it just tiring at this point. But what can you except of the disgusting leaders and press of the West?

British thugs (scumbags) attack Polish, Czech and other EE people. British and other European political entities have used EE countries and their people as punching bags for many years, before WW1 even.

Politicians, media and the people are silent over Muslim rape gangs, organised crime and other luxuries.

Its pretty obvious why the high and low end of our society goes after the Eastern Bloc. They're not scared of them.

I'd take a million EE people over a million followers of Islam, but this flies over the head of British people and its thugs. You won't find me crying over their lost country.

(09-06-2016 11:43 AM)amity Wrote:  I think it's the modern day equivalent of saving their country in wartime, except this time they're "saving the Africans".
It's the warm feeling and self affirmation they get from believing they're doing good works.
I suspect there is monetary gain here too.
Maybe some of you military or ex-miltary guys know, do navy guys get 'overtime'?
Because this would translate into a fuckload of overtime, which would be a big incentive.
There's also the 'just following orders' aspect and herd behaviour.
In the same way that I'm sure there were people who were part of the National Socialists who disagreed with the persecution and killing of Jews and minorities, but they went along with it and did what they were told, because 'everyone else is doing it'.
It probably does the Navy guys no harm with the ladies either, when they tell a girl they're chatting up that 'they just saved a thousand poor African souls in the Med', the girl's eyes light up and it's Hi Ho Silver and back to her place for a right good rogering.

If somebody is in distress at sea by law you have to help them either by rescuing them or by informing the relevant authorities.

The navy guys and coastguard will find it easier to rescue people compared to a normal merchant ship because they will have some sort of fast rescue craft (FRC) which is specifically designed to rescue people in distress at sea.

Worst Harald ever.

Quote:King Harald V of Norway gave a speech to his 1500 guests at his garden party Thursday 1st of September 2016. In 2015 thousands of refugees came to Norway, followed by a huge debate on migration politics. The King's message is that we have to take care of each other.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harald_Hardrada

Quote:Harald Sigurdsson (Old Norse: Haraldr Sigurðarson; c. 1015 – 25 September 1066), given the epithet Hardrada (harðráði, roughly translated as "stern counsel" or "hard ruler") in the sagas, was King of Norway (as Harald III) from 1046 to 1066. In addition, he unsuccessfully claimed the Danish throne until 1064 and the English throne in 1066. Prior to becoming king, Harald had spent around fifteen years in exile as a mercenary and military commander in Kievan Rus' and of the Varangian Guard in the Byzantine Empire.

The Norwegian royal family is an absolute mess and will soon be abolished. It's also only 100 years old and of danish-german origin, so not even a true Norwegian ancestral line. Of the royal children, the heir to the throne - prince Haakon - married a single mother who had slutty pictures online. The daughter, the princess, married Ari Mikael Behn, an artist of some sort (likely jewish) and abdicated her title, now they are set be divorced. It's the Danish-Germany cuckery finally showing in the Norwegian royals.

This is a strange article on how Refugees are integrating into Germany economically:
http://www.thelocal.de/20160908/report-r...d-for-jobs

Statement 1:

Quote:Some 71 percent of refugees in Germany are overqualified for their work, compared to an EU average of 60 percent, according to a working paper released on Wednesday by the European Commission and the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD).

Statement 2:

Quote:In Germany, only 9 percent of refugees who had lived in the country for up to ten years had an advanced level of German

So only 9% of "newer" refugees (landed in the last ten years or less) can speak much German, yet they are all overqualified for German jobs? Yet only 6% of the refugees have a college degree as per this site:
https://fee.org/articles/who-are-the-syrian-refugees/

And that site is probably adding unicorns and bubblegum to make their stats look better because they claim that only 53% of the migrants are males, and only 13% are young men which is a huge underestimation. So 71% of these uneducated, illiterate refugees are still overqualified to work in one of the worlds greatest technical economies?

They probably think, you have to make the lies big to make them believable.

(09-08-2016 05:16 PM)komatiite Wrote:  This is a strange article on how Refugees are integrating into Germany economically:
http://www.thelocal.de/20160908/report-r...d-for-jobs

Statement 1:

Quote:Some 71 percent of refugees in Germany are overqualified for their work, compared to an EU average of 60 percent, according to a working paper released on Wednesday by the European Commission and the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD).

Statement 2:

Quote:In Germany, only 9 percent of refugees who had lived in the country for up to ten years had an advanced level of German

This is the most moronic shit I've read in a long time. Maybe they got their degree at a some village university in Pakistan, that doesn't mean it holds up to German standards. At best those guys will be Germany's new garbage men, assembly line workers, etc.

^Pretty much.

Bang a few staples around a knife wound in some third world hellhole and you're a doctor. Cha-ching. Just like that.

Hoof it to Germany and suddenly you can bitch about being a doctor yet having to sort recycling for a living.

The faggot SJWs scream racism and before you know it Mohammed Stapali has a practice and starts ruining lives with shitty health care outcomes, and if you bring it to anyone's attention then you're a waaaaaaaaycist!

My own wife had her spine butchered by a immigrant quack doing her epidural during the birth of my second son. It was a miracle that she didn't end up in a wheelchair (both for my wife and the "doctor" who would have been buried in the back nine).

Funnily enough 2\3rds of all trashmen in Germany I've seen outside of Berlin are still white nationals.



Edit:

https://www.rt.com/news/358733-bavaria-c...t-culture/

Seems that Merkel is losing more suppprt as the situation progresses. Not surprising considering how many blows Bayern has taken since the invasion started

Quote:“Germany must stay Germany,” says the document by the Christian Social Union party (CSU), which was published by the Bavarian Kurier daily. “We are against our open-to-the-world country being changed through migration and inflow of refugees,” it adds, emphasizing that “it is not the Germans, who should look up to the refugees…” but, on the contrary those who come to Germany should adopt German culture.

(09-07-2016 05:05 PM)tylerdurden1993 Wrote:  If somebody is in distress at sea by law you have to help them either by rescuing them or by informing the relevant authorities.

Yes, inform the Libyan authorities and godspeed.

Alternatively, who is enforcing this law? Somalia, Nigeria, or Libya?
Ban Cuck-moon and his paper tiger?

Anybody who is safely on land, but willingly gets into a nutshell that's intentionally not seaworthy with the aim of endangering his own life, thereby hoping to blackmail some European navy into rescuing him so he can illegally immigrate, automatically forfeits his right to be saved from his own stupidity.

It's totally possible to take them back to Libya.

If they don't change policy, Europe is finished. Looking at the population projections, we've only see the tip of the iceberg as far as migration from Africa goes.

The religion of peace strikes again - this time are Muslim women the wannabe Jihadis.

They likely did the gas-tank-attempt at Notre-Dame. They wanted to kill hundreds:

3 women aged 19,23,39 - all ISIS supporters - one shot. But remember - Obama said that you have nothing to fear from women and children.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...abbed.html

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And sharia compliant clothing is getting enforced increasingly by rapefugees as well as old-time Muslims living in France for years and decades:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...mailonline

2 families getting beaten up.

And this little connected harrassment by a feminist is telling:



But see her mental masturbation - she was harrassed by a few Muslim girls and called a slut because she wears shorts in sommer (my girlfriend with a lifetime-notch count of 2 would be a slut too, nevermind that even virgins would be sluts and nuns while wearing loose clothes in summer).

Anyway that girl repeats the SJW mantra of IT'S THE CURRENT YEAR, but she refuses to call names - it's Muslims who do this, it's Muslims who enforce sharia law in the midst of France! And those girls who called her out might have been born in France.

If you cannot name the enemy, then you are doomed to fail, because Muslims are getting more sharia-compliant by the day, they won't bend their frame, their eyes are firmly set upon the 8th century. It's the West and girls like that who are going to lose - if men harrassed her, then she would likely accuse generally sexism and misogyny. Now as a feminist she accused 'internalized female misogyny'.
Fucking morons! Yes - it's misogyny, but please don't blame the poisonous ideology of Islam, because that is racist. (And please accuse any rational Ex-Muslim of racism as well for daring to criticize the the best of all current religions.)


You go girrlll! Against misogyny, for the Muslim refugees!

(09-09-2016 05:20 AM)RexImperator Wrote:  It's totally possible to take them back to Libya.

If they don't change policy, Europe is finished. Looking at the population projections, we've only see the tip of the iceberg as far as migration from Africa goes.

Yes it's the boiling frog analogy, the more invaders come in, the more the water heats up, until it's too late and European society(the frog), will have perished, certainly as we know it anyway.
As Black Pigeon said, Sweden, Germany will still exist geographically of course, but they will no longer be Sweden or Germany, they will be "Sweden" and "Germany" with millions of "Swedes" and "Germans".

It's imperative that Merkel is ousted, by 2017 at the latest, her being re-elected would be the death knell for several Euro countries in the short to medium term and several more in the medium to long term.
It's also vital that AfD form part of the next German coalition government so as to introduce some level of sanity back into the discourse.

I hear what you're saying Zel re 'Islam' but is it not fair to say that the Muslims that are causing the trouble and the ones way more likely to be sympathetic to ISIS or to become ISIS members are Sunnis?
And probably Wahhabi or Salafist sects within Sunni?
I think part of the problem is that people in the centre tend to baulk when we say 'Islam' is the problem, and yes I know that circa 90% of Muslims are Sunni but when we say Islam as opposed to Sunni Islam or Wahhabist/Salafist Islam, we're probably not going to get those people in the centre, those that are open to rational debate, to acknowledge the problem and face up to it.

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^Majestic gif.

(09-07-2016 03:36 PM)Hell_Is_Like_Newark Wrote:  

(09-07-2016 11:27 AM)Brother Abdul Majeed Wrote:  This is what drives me crazy about Liberal stupidity. Can't they see that in the long run they are doing much more harm?

More than once I have tried to explain why I NEVER donate clothes, shoes, or cash to those NGOs that distribute "aid" to poor third world nations. I go through how the aid actually makes things worse and hurts economic development:

i.e. Free rice sent to Haiti put local farms out of business. Free clothing put local small tailors and textile makers out of business.

My explanation was in direct conflict with their virtue signaling. My words were blocked out or shouted down.

Trying to explain how encouraging waves of boat people is also a bad idea will be just as fruitless. You can't reason with emotional thinkers. There is no way to win an argument based on emotion.

Exactly - this 'help' from the West destroys 3rd world countries' economies. Japan and China have massive restrictions in terms of imports. You cannot even import much food into Japan and that is why they still have their own super-expensive, but high quality rice and stuff. They even restrict exports, because otherwise the price for the local people would be affected.


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Foolsgold - EE women have been responsible for over 10% of white babies in the UK, otherwise the percentage of non-White babies to White born in the UK would be 65-35 already. Now it is balanced due to Polish mothers, who get plenty of kids when there is financial security around. I don't deny that even that import of Poles to the UK is not very advantageous for the Brits who get some competition, but you have to realize that the second generation of them will have a strong allegiance to Britain and will look and talk like Brits. Also the average IQ of those slavs is 106.

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Tigre - the European nobility has often become full-time globalists a long time ago. In fact any nobility which opposed the current dominant globalists were executed - the French died the same death as did the Romanofs. The Belgian, Scandinavian kings and queens were seen often enough at Bilderberg meetings to know that they are just like Fortune 500 CEOs - fully on board with the agenda. A recent example from the history was the British king Edward VIII who supposedly 'gave up the throne for love'. In reality he was opposing the globalist elite in private and wanted to act out on it - he was given the choice of either leaving for some trumped up reason or dying. He wisely chose to go and make it about some 'love affair'. (Kings as well as queens back then could have had dozens of love affairs with no one taking a glance at it - the press wasn't the same as now.)





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Amity - yes the more radical ways of Islam are the worst, but even the 'moderate' ones are backwards, barbaric and way too restrictive. The Ottomans for example had a more or less 'moderate' view, but Ataturk correctly identified it as the leading force that kept the Ottoman empire from evolving.

It is Islam - read the Quran - and also some of the leading Hadiths. If your underlying religion is violent, backwards and bad, if your founder was warlord, slave-holder and conqueror, who left securities in place to NEVER EVER DOUBT OR CHANGE THE RELIGION, then you are in deep shit.

http://www.koran-at-a-glance.com/

Many many Salafi ex-Muslims clearly state that they tried to reform, but realized that the religion is way too violent.

But we have had that discussion before. I know that you see many moderate Muslims who don't take the path seriously, but you have to realize that this was likely created from the 1940s to the 1970s by the globalists who pushed back Islam in all Muslim countries. In the 1970s seeing a woman in a Niqab was strange and Afghanistan and Iran were executing secular reforms. But obviously they changed course and decided a different approach - radicalization instead of secularization and slow pushing away of Islam. IF THE ELITE had continued the path from the 1940s to 70s, then yes - then Islam may not have been reformed, but the Muslim countries would be changed nonetheless since no one would go to mosque and they would ignore most rules set out by Imams. This can currently only be done when the full government, full social engineering, the entire academia, most media and entertainment - all pull along the same lines - in tandem with pulling Imams to their side similar what the globalists did with Christianity (council of churches and their influence over there). But this is not the path chosen and I can guarantee you that the moderates will become more radical as time goes by, more and more countries will shift with only one END-SOLUTION - TOTAL WAR OR AT LEAST TOTALITARIAN SURVEILLANCE STATE.

The few well-meaning Muslim reformers will fail. I foresee only a massive surge of Muslims leaving Islam before the final conflict takes place - many will join the secular side, become atheists, agnostics or Christians. The others will be drawn into the global conflict against their will as the more radical ones and the globalist powers pull them into it.

(09-05-2016 10:03 AM)RexImperator Wrote:  I would envision something like a siege:

Declare martial law in the vicinity and evacuate local citizens for their own safety.

Cordon off the migrant area with troops and fences.

Cut the power, telecom, and turn off cell towers (total media/information blackout).

Allow no people to go in, but the migrants can come out any time they want to get food and humanitarian care.

Have a long narrow fenced in corridor they have to walk through, to prevent them acting in gangs.

Arrest them one by one.

Some fraction will stay behind to fight. If they are starving they should be fairly weak.

A writer nicknamed the "French Goebbels" has mentioned a plan:

Russia Today Wrote:Social media is furious after controversial French writer and TV personality Eric Zemmour said that the French Army will reconquer its metropolitan areas and suburbs and clear them from Muslims as Israel did in Gaza.

Zemmour was talking to the French RTL news channel about his latest essay “A five-year term for nothing,” published Wednesday.

“French people have become foreigners in their own land,” he said.

Zemmour said that in all metropolitan areas “there are no French people, but there are only Muslims.”

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One of the extracts of his book speaks about a possible operation against Muslims led by France with the help of Israeli military consultants.

“The General Staff of the [French] army knows that a day will come when he will regain the lands [in France] which have become foreign in our own soil. The plan has already been developed, it is called ‘Operation Ronces,’” the writer says.

According to Zemmour, the plan “was developed with the help of Israeli army specialists who have shared their experience in Gaza with their French colleagues.”

https://www.rt.com/news/358766-french-wr...rael-gaza/

Sounds like trolling, though.

^ And I would like to stress for those who don't know me - I don't think that Muslim people are inherently evil or something. For example - I believe that reincarnation is true and actually logical (nevermind that I had out-of-body experiences that proved that fact to me and early Christianity up until the 7th century is reputed to have taught it - but was later scrubbed from the so-called correctores of the Vatican).

Anyway - Middle Eastern people without Islam raised in a Buddhist, secular, Chinese, Japanese, Christian or rational atheist culture - they would likely move more towards k-selection, get higher IQs, behave more or less like Italians, but with slightly more passion and warmth. I differentiate between Muslim folk and Islam. Some don't allow themselves to be poisoned by the path, some barely know it and are good people because they ignore pretty much anything negative.

So yes - if a magician purged the world of Islam and replaced the ideology with something superior (not our current push towards SJW-feminism-marxism), then within a few years all the former Muslim countries would be brutally different places - with far more happy people as a result. That is also why I think that the negative ideology of Islam will one day disappear. Nothing that evil and unreformable lasts forever. There have been other cults in history that were even worse than that - and they all were wiped out by father time and the eternal laws that probably govern this world.

My words regarding Islam may sometimes be harsh and I also may be willing to defend the West's borders with violence, but the truth of the matter is that this is borne out of the male understanding of love. As a man you understand that if you love something, then you have to be tough sometimes out of love.
Love without power creates the weakling and power alone without love creates the psychopath. A society best has to have both aspects and many men do. Too bad that our elite are all psychopaths.

It's well accepted that if oil weren't a factor then Islam would be a footnote in history by now. It simply can't stand on its own two feet.

(09-09-2016 10:44 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  ...
My words regarding Islam may sometimes be harsh and I also may be willing to defend the West's borders with violence, but the truth of the matter is that this is borne out of the male understanding of love. As a man you understand that if you love something, then you have to be tough sometimes out of love.
Love without power creates the weakling and power alone without love creates the psychopath. A society best has to have both aspects and many men do. Too bad that our elite are all psychopaths.

(09-09-2016 07:40 PM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  It's well accepted that if oil weren't a factor then Islam would be a footnote in history by now. It simply can't stand on its own two feet.

And piracy, slaving, and pillaging.