This is ridiculous. They need some proper detention camps with barbed wire and guards. Then deport.

Of course the optics of sending military/police in is going to be very bad. Gotta do it, though.

How do you contain , control and deport an encampment of 9000 pissed off MENA dudes? It's easy to say it should have never been allowed to form but there it is. You would need a few thousand troops right? It looks a like a great application for some kind of non-lethal restraint method like spray glue dropped from helicopters or something. I'm sure some will say "Kill them if they resist" but that shows political naivete-- if you do that there will be huge blowback among moderates preventing continuance of deportation which should be the goal, not a bloodbath.

Hey, let's think positive! It's a chance to test non-lethal weapons on the genetic population it might have to be used on in the future.
http://www.cracked.com/article_16710_6-n...-dead.html

Remember, there are Britons and French etc within reach of relatives of the MENA dudes all over the world, you don't want to invite revenge more than is necessary to preserve Europe.

(09-05-2016 08:03 AM)RexImperator Wrote:  This is ridiculous. They need some proper detention camps with barbed wire and guards. Then deport.

Of course the optics of sending military/police in is going to be very bad. Gotta do it, though.

Herein lies the problem. You leave a cut to fester into an infection and the only treatment is a lot of antibiotics. If you're unfortunate enough to land another infection from those superbugs found in hospitals, you could lose organs and limbs.

They leave the problem to get out of hand and it starts to go downhill and will not get better until some force corrects it.

These migrants attacking cars in order to stop trucks is a valid tactic from their point of view. But it is a tactic that has only come about because they're not grabbed, locked up and then thrown out of the country back to where they came from.

Simply setting them free or punting them back to Greece and Italy is not a solution. rescuing them off the coast of Italy and Greece is not an option. It does not stop them, it does not make them think twice about the risks.

The short term is anarchy, the long term is total democratic, social and demographic change into a mix of cultures who all hate each other.

People quote Brazil as a future of the West. Brazil may have narcos, socialists and widespread criminality but they don't have the incoming mix we have here. It'll be worse with the likelihood of Islamic politics having a big say in the countries of Europe.

Take a look at the percentages of population for those who follow Islam in the UK, Germany, France. What happens when they become 15% of the population? Bear in mind the population the UK has at the moment is nowhere near 15%.

(09-05-2016 08:15 AM)iknowexactly Wrote:  How do you contain , control and deport an encampment of 9000 pissed off MENA dudes? It's easy to say it should have never been allowed to form but there it is. You would need a few thousand troops right? It looks a like a great application for some kind of non-lethal restraint method like spray glue dropped from helicopters or something. I'm sure some will say "Kill them if they resist" but that shows political naivete-- if you do that there will be huge blowback among moderates preventing continuance of deportation which should be the goal, not a bloodbath.

Hey, let's think positive! It's a chance to test non-lethal weapons on the genetic population it might have to be used on in the future.
http://www.cracked.com/article_16710_6-n...-dead.html

Remember, there are Britons and French etc within reach of relatives of the MENA dudes all over the world, you don't want to invite revenge more than is necessary to preserve Europe.

There is no need for napalm-bombing the camp. Although giving a shit about 'Muslim blowback' should be the future default behavior. You simply hold frame - the rich Muslim countries would probably shoot them down if they approached Saudi border.

Besides - there are many many non-lethal ways of dealing with it. The tech is out there to use microwave weaponry and other stuff. Then you simply arrest them, put them to prison, afterwards a bag over the head and off to a plane. If their country does not want them back, fine - offer them 10.000$, block their fingerprints for all future EU entry. If they refuse, then lock them up in internment camps forever.

There are a myriad ways of how the elite could deal with it, but we know that they are pumping them deliberately to the West while telling us lies that nothing can be done about it.

In the end the situation as seen as in BRAZIL will be of course much much worse.

(09-04-2016 11:36 AM)Orion Wrote:  Trump should really get smart on his security. But above all, if he becomes President, under all costs, he must fill his cabinet and every institution that he can, particularly Armed Forces, with his own men. And when i say his own men, i mean people who will cater to his every nod. Even if it means conflict with entire Republican, Democrat and every other kind of establishment, he should do it. It will guarantee him 2nd term too, people respond good to that kind of attitude.

Armed Forces in particular, need a detailed mop-up. They are filled to the brim with Zionists, Israeli spies and informers, warmongers, MIC stooges, unpatriotic careerists, etc. If you asked me, he should even trade some competence with explicit American patriotism there.

You're talking about a Night of the Long Knives, or a Stalin-esque purge.

I would envision something like a siege:

Declare martial law in the vicinity and evacuate local citizens for their own safety.

Cordon off the migrant area with troops and fences.

Cut the power, telecom, and turn off cell towers (total media/information blackout).

Allow no people to go in, but the migrants can come out any time they want to get food and humanitarian care.

Have a long narrow fenced in corridor they have to walk through, to prevent them acting in gangs.

Arrest them one by one.

Some fraction will stay behind to fight. If they are starving they should be fairly weak.

(09-04-2016 01:45 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

(09-04-2016 08:37 AM)Samseau Wrote:  You're completely wrong Zel - Trump has an ego that cannot be controlled, which is why the Elite call him "Hitler."

Trump will soon be the most powerful man in the world and will not answer to anyone. The Elite are scared shitless.

I hope you are right - chances for that by my estimates are 0,0001%. Unless he has a benevolent super-powerful Alien Intergalactic army at his disposal, then he cannot change much.

If I am proven wrong Samseau about Trump, then I will buy you a crate of prime Whiskey - if I am right, a beer will be enough for a wager, because unfortunately Trump has proven to be a solid likeable Red Pill Alpha with Game, but not able to change the world by himself.

You will join the list of many other forum members who have bet against me and lost.

See, one thing I think you're forgetting is that the elites are not 100% united. They may be united 80% - but not completely.

Trump obviously knows things we don't know. He must have at least one wealthy elite who has a trillion in the bank backing him. Notice how many right-wing Jews are also on the Trump train. Notice how Brexit passed with 52% of the Jewish vote according to the Ashcroft survey. There MUST BE SOMETHING going on behind the scenes.

Trump is the 5-star General to do the bidding of a few Right-Wing elites, just like George Soros is a leftist 5-star General who does the bidding of many Left-Wing elites.

The Soros's are much more numerous than the Trump's, but all it takes is one great General to turn the tide of a war.

Just like Soros has his billions, so does Trump. But we both know these guys aren't at the top of the pyramid, the real money-men are totally hidden from the world. I suspect Trump has one money-man who has gone rogue and disagrees with the New World Order.

It's the best explanation for why Trump campaigns with such confidence. He knows he's not alone and he has enough powerful allies, including a mega-powerful one, to get things done.

(09-05-2016 10:34 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

(09-04-2016 01:45 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

(09-04-2016 08:37 AM)Samseau Wrote:  You're completely wrong Zel - Trump has an ego that cannot be controlled, which is why the Elite call him "Hitler."

Trump will soon be the most powerful man in the world and will not answer to anyone. The Elite are scared shitless.

I hope you are right - chances for that by my estimates are 0,0001%. Unless he has a benevolent super-powerful Alien Intergalactic army at his disposal, then he cannot change much.

If I am proven wrong Samseau about Trump, then I will buy you a crate of prime Whiskey - if I am right, a beer will be enough for a wager, because unfortunately Trump has proven to be a solid likeable Red Pill Alpha with Game, but not able to change the world by himself.

You will join the list of many other forum members who have bet against me and lost.

See, one thing I think you're forgetting is that the elites are not 100% united. They may be united 80% - but not completely.

Trump obviously knows things we don't know. He must have at least one wealthy elite who has a trillion in the bank backing him. Notice how many right-wing Jews are also on the Trump train. Notice how Brexit passed with 52% of the Jewish vote according to the Ashcroft survey. There MUST BE SOMETHING going on behind the scenes.

Trump is the 5-star General to do the bidding of a few Right-Wing elites, just like George Soros is a leftist 5-star General who does the bidding of many Left-Wing elites.

The Soros's are much more numerous than the Trump's, but all it takes is one great General to turn the tide of a war.

Just like Soros has his billions, so does Trump. But we both know these guys aren't at the top of the pyramid, the real money-men are totally hidden from the world. I suspect Trump has one money-man who has gone rogue and disagrees with the New World Order.

It's the best explanation for why Trump campaigns with such confidence. He knows he's not alone and he has enough powerful allies, including a mega-powerful one, to get things done.

I'll savor the beer when we meet - or I will bring the crate of prime scotch of your choice.

Either way - the elite is far more tiny - they likely fit all in one Eyes Wide Shut party - the very top making the decisions being even smaller. Trump may be tough to control, but he can be controlled. Anyway - useless to talk about it now. We will hopefully find out soon - or not and Hillary gets voted in with massive vote manipulation.

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/07/...terrorism/

Did you see the French prime minister getting booed as he mentioned the famous 'have to live with terrorism' to the French?





Sargon of Akkad may be an anti-Game true liberal, but he clearly points out the lunacy of all current migration policies & marxist leftists. Good vid. We have way more in common with men like him, who are anti-cultural marxism, anti-feminism, anti-Islam, anti-immigration (of the current kind) etc.

If Trump is a real threat, wont he get the JFK treatment?

(09-05-2016 12:19 PM)Pride male Wrote:  If Trump is a real threat, wont he get the JFK treatment?

Yes, but him and his secret service detail won't let him ride in an open air convertible.

Another day, another rape gang attack:

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/09/...man-girls/

Gangs of Migrants Sexually Attack Girls At German Festival

Quote:A gang of migrants in the German town of Essen have engaged in Cologne-style sex attacks at a festival where police have received reports of at least ten separate incidents.
Yet another festival in Germany has been the scene of migrant crime as roving gangs of migrants sexually attacked multiple female victims on Friday and Saturday. The festival in the town of Essen known as “Essen Original” had gone over two decades without any major incident and was largely considered a family friendly event. That changed this weekend as police made at least seven arrests of migrants who had groped and harassed several women German paper Westen Allgemeine Zeitung reports.

Police presence at the festival this year was the highest it has ever been and they report that the three-day festival was completely overshadowed by “men with apparent migration background” molesting and attacking various girls in large groups in the same vein as the Cologne attacks on New Year’s Eve.

Police have so far arrested seven men, four of which they confirmed were migrants they say are from the regions of North Africa and the Middle East and lived at nearby asylum homes. The suspects were detained and later released after being questioned, a practice that has been criticised by many and something neighbouring Austria has promised to change.

Germany is a joke. And so are the leftists who run it. One guy got the shit kicked out of him and his children despite defending Muslims:

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/09/...er-beaten/

Antifa Writer Beaten Up By Muslims Shouting ‘Filthy White’

Quote:Writer Ghislain Gilberti and his son were savagely attacked on Saturday by a group of men shouting “filthy white”, seemingly Islamists enraged by one of his novels, police in France have heard.
Mr Gilbert and his 12-year-old son were attacked in Belfort, France on Saturday following harassment and attempted break-ins. Though an active antifascist, the writer and his family have received death threats from Salafists displeased that the prologue title of the novelist’s bestseller is “jihad”.

Police are investigating after Mr Gilberti was taken to hospital with a broken arm by firemen, following a reported street attack by Salafist Muslims.

Mr Gilberti said he received blows to his back before being called a “filthy white” by four men aged between 20 and 30 years, who held him down while attacking.

The author reported the men also kicked his 12-year-old son in the head and stomach, shouting “it’s the same price for you” and “we don’t forgive, we don’t forget” at his 11-year-old daughter who was also present.

The thriller novelist lost consciousness during the beating and, following the attack, will again request full police protection, Mr Gilberti’s publisher broadcast on Facebook.

Police say they are aware of the incident, have interviewed witnesses and that they are currently trying to determine the circumstances of the assault.

L’est Republicain reported that Salafists began threatening the author and his family, and harassing them in their own home following the paperback release of Mr Gilberti’s novel The Feast of the Snake.

The book features a fictional jihadist group who finance their actions by means of international drug trafficking. The novelist was assigned temporary police protection following incidents in March.

Mr Gilberti said he suspects Muslim critics who denounce his novel as “insulting [their] cause” are unintelligent. He remarked: “The authors of the threats have not read the book, or they have just skim read it. I did not insult Islam in the book. I am rather a defender of all faiths and I combat racist acts in an anti-fascist movement.”

Lol, it's just the stupid Muslims we have to worry about, the smart ones know who the good Whites are.

I haven't posted here in a while as I see this as a lost cause at this stage but I'm making an exception today just to prove my point. Reference article here.

   

You already know that the AfD received 21% of the votes in Mecklenburg-Vorpommern, beating Merkel's party to 2nd place. What you may not know is that this was mainly due to the men in that state. While 25% of all men voted AfD only 16% of the women did, which means that only 39% of all AfD voters are women.

But it doesn't end here. Participation in this election was only 62%. From that only 21% of eligible Germans voted AfD, which comes out to 12.8% of all eligible Germans in that region. Of course of that only 39% were women, reducing the number of all eligible women in the region of Mecklenburg-Vorpommern who voted for the AfD to a whopping 10% (i.e. 16% of 62%).

So just to be crystal clear here folks. Last Sunday the women in that region of Germany finally had the opportunity to vote AGAINST the ongoing rape epidemic, AGAINST the wave of violence that is now threatening their children and their families. They had a chance to set a clear sign and start a political avalanche that may have derailed Merkel's runaway politics and perhaps encouraged other women in future regional elections to follow their lead. Only one out of ten German women took advantage of that opportunity. The remaining nine either voted FOR it or didn't even bother to show up.



And you already know how I am going to end my post, don't you? Do I really have to say it? Alright, I'll do it for old time's sake...

GERMANY IS FUCKED.

I haven't posted here in a while as I see this as a lost cause at this stage but I'm making an exception today just to prove my point. Reference article here.

   

You already know that the AfD received 21% of the votes in Mecklenburg-Vorpommern, beating Merkel's party to 2nd place. What you may not know is that this was mainly due to the men in that state. While 25% of all men voted AfD only 16% of the women did, which means that only 39% of all AfD voters are women.

But it doesn't end here. Participation in this election was only 62%. From that only 21% of voters cast their ballot for the AfD, which comes out to 12.8% of all eligible Germans in that region. Of course of that only 39% were women, reducing the number of all eligible women in the region of Mecklenburg-Vorpommern who voted for the AfD to a whopping 10% (i.e. 16% of 62% - assuming the same ratio of male and female voters).

So just to be crystal clear here folks. Last Sunday the women in that region of Germany finally had the opportunity to vote AGAINST the ongoing rape epidemic, AGAINST the wave of violence that is now threatening their children and their families. They had a chance to set a clear sign and start a political avalanche that may have derailed Merkel's runaway politics and perhaps encouraged other women in future regional elections to follow their lead. Only one out of ten German women took advantage of that opportunity. The remaining 90% either voted FOR it or didn't even bother to show up.



So the next time I hear about a German woman over 16 being molested, raped, or even killed I'll have to assume that there is a 90% chance that she repeatedly voted FOR Merkel's policies. And as they saying goes in Germany: Mein Mitleid hält sich in Grenzen. Rough translation: 'my compassion is rather muted'.

And you already know how I am going to end my post. Do I really have to say it? Alright, here it is just for old time's sake...

GERMANY IS FUCKED.

Also, the 1 in 10 women who voted AfD are very very likely to be in a relationship with a German man. She most likely has very little to fear from migrant rapists because she has a man protecting her.

So the random single-slut roaming the streets, bar-hopping, etc, are almost guaranteed to have voted for the invasion. The main exceptions to this rule are younger women below the age of voting. But in the vast majority of cases the women out at night voted to get raped. Hard to find sympathy, it's sorta like trying to treat a crack addict who keeps using no matter how much you help them.

And I don't want to ressurect that nonsense that some members talked about some here being "Anti-Germany".

Wrong. Samseau, Redpillage and others are saying this precisely because THEY CARE. That is the most "Pro-Germany" thing to do. And Pro-Sweden, Pro-France, Pro-UK, Pro-Belgium, Pro-Western Civilization in general.

The issues have to be discussed, no matter how many it offends, no matter how many it hurts. Truths can be harsh.

Quote:In most of the less developed countries the percentage of childless women in their late 40s is typically under 10 percent. And in some populous nations, such India, Indonesia, Pakistan, South Africa and Turkey, the proportion of women remaining childless by their late 40s is below 5 percent. In contrast, in the majority of developed countries childlessness among women at the end of their reproductive careers is above 10 percent. In some countries, such as England, Germany, the Netherlands and the United States, the proportions are substantial, with approximately one in five women in their late 40s remaining childless. Higher proportions are observed in Italy and Switzerland, where one in four women in their late 40s is childless.

http://yaleglobal.yale.edu/content/childless-choice

(09-05-2016 10:46 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  Sargon of Akkad may be an anti-Game true liberal, but he clearly points out the lunacy of all current migration policies & marxist leftists. Good vid. We have way more in common with men like him, who are anti-cultural marxism, anti-feminism, anti-Islam, anti-immigration (of the current kind) etc.

I don't want to derail the thread, but I'm curious what makes you say Sargon of Akkad is "anti-game".

I don't follow much of his stuff, but I know that he had a lengthy approach thread on this forum and never gave the impression of being a game denialist. But I've heard other people make comments about him here and there, so I'm wondering what the specifics are.

(09-06-2016 12:24 AM)Enigma Wrote:  I don't want to derail the thread, but I'm curious what makes you say Sargon of Akkad is "anti-game".

I don't follow much of his stuff, but I know that he had a lengthy approach thread on this forum and never gave the impression of being a game denialist. But I've heard other people make comments about him here and there, so I'm wondering what the specifics are.

Youtube guy and forum member are different people.

(09-06-2016 02:16 AM)Benoit Wrote:  

(09-06-2016 12:24 AM)Enigma Wrote:  I don't want to derail the thread, but I'm curious what makes you say Sargon of Akkad is "anti-game".

I don't follow much of his stuff, but I know that he had a lengthy approach thread on this forum and never gave the impression of being a game denialist. But I've heard other people make comments about him here and there, so I'm wondering what the specifics are.

Youtube guy and forum member are different people.

Holy shit, really? This entire time I thought it was the same person.

(09-06-2016 12:24 AM)Enigma Wrote:  

(09-05-2016 10:46 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  Sargon of Akkad may be an anti-Game true liberal, but he clearly points out the lunacy of all current migration policies & marxist leftists. Good vid. We have way more in common with men like him, who are anti-cultural marxism, anti-feminism, anti-Islam, anti-immigration (of the current kind) etc.

I don't want to derail the thread, but I'm curious what makes you say Sargon of Akkad is "anti-game".

I don't follow much of his stuff, but I know that he had a lengthy approach thread on this forum and never gave the impression of being a game denialist. But I've heard other people make comments about him here and there, so I'm wondering what the specifics are.

Sargon of Akkad - the youtuber - not the RVF forum member - made a video about Roosh actually defending his right to conduct a talk in Canada. He did it in his This Week in Stupid series. But while he defended Roosh against the feminists and marxists, he also showed an older video by Roosh where he tells guys where to best stand in bars (shown with little figurines). Sargon found the video ridiculous.

But he also never was the approaching club-going womanizer, which is fine, but he discards a bit that part of Game aspect and the fact that millions of men would find books like BANG highly useful (also info on where to best stand in the club).

Whether Sargon actually would deny Game that is based on observable behaviorism - that is a different question. Since he is a reasonable guy I think that you would have a chance to convince him despite the fact that it is not part of his life experience (he is married, a father and probably never worried about approaching).

_______________

Back to the topic:



Women will always vote for the topics that the elite want - that will never ever change. Men are certainly better, masculine men are a lot better, but still most voted for the cuck-parties.

Not to derail the thread but just a little note: Sargon is fat, leftist and most likely Gay.

While he is not a regressive leftist, he's still not one of our own and rarely ever worth listening.

@LEMONed IScream
I get what you're saying but it's important to listen to reasonable voices on the left/liberal side too and Sargon is one of those.
Otherwise we become an echo chamber of sorts, and become prone to confirmation bias and groupthink, all of which is chronic on the Left as few of them read outside of their own circles.
I also find the guy very funny too, which helps, and like with Gavin McInnes and Milo, this is probably one of the better ways to attract people to your point of view or to at least listen to it.

If you become a raving single-issue lunatic then nobody sees you as a relate-able human being.

Stuff like this is great, and also important.

Of course. I do not mean we should become isolated, riddled in groupthink and totalitarian standards. I have actually listened to Sargon quite a few times and while he does get some points on the SJW issues and others of the sort, and even though I could consider him a "sane" liberal, there are other voices from other people that say what he says but do it better and more efficiently. But I guess we should give him some props for being an oasis of sanity in a demented Left.

(09-06-2016 08:33 AM)LEMONed IScream Wrote:  Of course. I do not mean we should become isolated, riddled in groupthink and totalitarian standards. I have actually listened to Sargon quite a few times and while he does get some points on the SJW issues and others of the sort, and even though I could consider him a "sane" liberal, there are other voices from other people that say what he says but do it better and more efficiently. But I guess we should give him some props for being an oasis of sanity in a demented Left.

While it is not known what is deep inside that person somehow I doubt that Sargon is gay. He has a young child and is the template of the relationship minded Gamer intellectual. I think that if he were gay as a liberal, then he would not repress it.

Also - if he ever slimmed down, then he would be a solid looking guy:



He may not be one of us, but he is certainly an ally in this ocean of cockroach-enemies. Besides - there are other members who are fat - some even Alpha. And on the other spectrum you have in shape cucks. Though as a general rule usually - the more in shape, the higher the chances of you not being a wimp.



Currently Sargon does a good job with his Week in Stupid to go through the bullshit and madness in the media & world. Also his assessment of Islam is spot on - he researched it well and came to the same conclusions as I did. The religion itself is utterly incompatible with Western civilization - actually any modern civilization.

Anyway - let's give props to all who pull on the same side - Milo, Sargon etc. - not all men will be automatically Game and Red Pill aware neo-masculine men. Though probably in my opinion there is a little shitlord sitting in Sargon. Some men come to it gradually.