Checkmate, xenophobes!

(07-24-2016 03:21 PM)HighSpeed_LowDrag Wrote:  I've seen it personally. When I studied in Hamburg I watched a German professor nearly have an aneurysm when I made the modest contention that ethnicity was the primary basis of German identity.

I believe it. I had an older German co-worker, with whom I previously had gotten along with great for about four months, stop talking to me after I endorsed second amendment logic and culture.

(07-24-2016 04:38 PM)iop890 Wrote:  

Checkmate, xenophobes!

I like this picture, it could be very well true. You just need to add 1 or 2 bullet points reading "will shoot up the nearest mall" and "will brutally rape your sister/daughter unprovoked", then it'll be more truthful

Explosion at a wine bar in Ansbach Germany.
Mayor of the city just confirmed it was not an accident.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/692793/...many-Blast

(07-24-2016 05:51 PM)I DIDNT KILL MY WIFE Wrote:  

(07-24-2016 04:38 PM)iop890 Wrote:  

Checkmate, xenophobes!

I like this picture, it could be very well true. You just need to add 1 or 2 bullet points reading "will shoot up the nearest mall" and "will brutally rape your sister/daughter unprovoked", then it'll be more truthful

I'm going to go out on a limb and claim none of those ficken ficken grab ass refugees are going to cure cancer.

Explosion at a restaurant/wine bar in Germany. I'm holding off on a conclusion because its too early to say and I'm tired.

Emergency services say it could be a gas explosion, Mayor is saying it is an explosive device. Happened 10:30PM local time.

Nope, looks like the religion of peace strikes again.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/24/world/ansb...any-blast/

(07-24-2016 10:53 AM)redpillage Wrote:  Welcome to the forum and I would agree on all fronts. Regarding Latinos - I never understood the beef many whites in the U.S. have with Latinos. Most of them are not out to get you or represent a completely incompatible culture. They continue speaking Spanish at home but do not force it on anyone else in public. Sure there are the occasional assholes in any segment of a population, but if I have a choice between Latin and ME immigration, brother - I will pick the former any day.

I'll keep my response short since I don't want to derail the thread.

The massive Hispanic immigration to America is turning it to a third world country. For example, compare 1960's California to the California of today. It has completely changed and California resembles more like Mexico than the rest of America.

I don't hate Hispanics or Latin America. However, behind the facade of feminine women, good food, and the beautiful beaches in Latin America, there is a little else of value there.

Latin America is considered a third world society for a reason. Hispanics are leaving because their government, society, and culture, and, ultimately, civilization has failed them.

Regardless of the ME migration to Europe, I don't see how bringing Hispanics - who are members of a failed society - is beneficial to America.

I interrupt this thread with the latest message from Aids Skrillex and Carl the Cuck

(07-24-2016 02:30 PM)N°6 Wrote:  

(07-24-2016 12:38 PM)draguer Wrote:  http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...trage.html

Refugee hacks a pregnant woman to death.

I wonder what happened, he didn't look the type....

Looks like the officer is searching his back pocket for fucks to give about standing on the killer's broken leg.

Also looks like he's not finding any.

(07-24-2016 11:24 PM)quino_16 Wrote:  

(07-24-2016 10:53 AM)redpillage Wrote:  Welcome to the forum and I would agree on all fronts. Regarding Latinos - I never understood the beef many whites in the U.S. have with Latinos. Most of them are not out to get you or represent a completely incompatible culture. They continue speaking Spanish at home but do not force it on anyone else in public. Sure there are the occasional assholes in any segment of a population, but if I have a choice between Latin and ME immigration, brother - I will pick the former any day.

I'll keep my response short since I don't want to derail the thread.

The massive Hispanic immigration to America is turning it to a third world country. For example, compare 1960's California to the California of today. It has completely changed and California resembles more like Mexico than the rest of America.

I don't hate Hispanics or Latin America. However, behind the facade of feminine women, good food, and the beautiful beaches in Latin America, there is a little else of value there.

Latin America is considered a third world society for a reason. Hispanics are leaving because their government, society, and culture, and, ultimately, civilization has failed them.

Regardless of the ME migration to Europe, I don't see how bringing Hispanics - who are members of a failed society - is beneficial to America.

Of course Latin Americans are better than Middle Eastern Muslims and 70 IQ Somalis.

But let us look at the facts in South America:

In most countries you have descendents of the Europeans ruling over the other more darker (and lower in IQ) groups in cleptocratic corrupt systems. The Christian heritage helps a bit, but there are strange twists of infatuation with death and a high disregard for life itself.

Also when looking at the American system, does anyone truly believe that if you replaced 90% of European Whites in the US with current South American immigrants, then you would have a similar country? No - that place would resemble Brazil pretty soon. However you could replace Americans with Europeans, Russians, Chinese, Japanese or Jews - you would have an almost identical system with some twists, but at similar levels of civilization.

All other ethnicities taken from around the world and put into the US system would fuck that very said system up pretty fast.

In addition there is also another problem with immigration to the West - ECONOMICS. Menial work is disappearing, corporations are offshoring work, middle class is disappearing, a vast economic underclass is appearing. That trend has been happening since the 1970s and was only econoimically halted in the 1980s to 2000s via a massive private debt expansion (but no effective rise of disposible income).

So to put it short - even if all South Americans coming in were almost identical to Americans - there would be hardly any advantage for most Americans. There are only disadvantages for the wide majority.

After a horrific week in Germany, can any German user comment on the situation "on the ground"?

How are your friends, family, co-workers reacting to the latest migrant attacks?

(07-25-2016 04:53 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

(07-24-2016 11:24 PM)quino_16 Wrote:  

(07-24-2016 10:53 AM)redpillage Wrote:  Welcome to the forum and I would agree on all fronts. Regarding Latinos - I never understood the beef many whites in the U.S. have with Latinos. Most of them are not out to get you or represent a completely incompatible culture. They continue speaking Spanish at home but do not force it on anyone else in public. Sure there are the occasional assholes in any segment of a population, but if I have a choice between Latin and ME immigration, brother - I will pick the former any day.

I'll keep my response short since I don't want to derail the thread.

The massive Hispanic immigration to America is turning it to a third world country. For example, compare 1960's California to the California of today. It has completely changed and California resembles more like Mexico than the rest of America.

I don't hate Hispanics or Latin America. However, behind the facade of feminine women, good food, and the beautiful beaches in Latin America, there is a little else of value there.

Latin America is considered a third world society for a reason. Hispanics are leaving because their government, society, and culture, and, ultimately, civilization has failed them.

Regardless of the ME migration to Europe, I don't see how bringing Hispanics - who are members of a failed society - is beneficial to America.

Of course Latin Americans are better than Middle Eastern Muslims and 70 IQ Somalis.

But let us look at the facts in South America:

In most countries you have descendents of the Europeans ruling over the other more darker (and lower in IQ) groups in cleptocratic corrupt systems. The Christian heritage helps a bit, but there are strange twists of infatuation with death and a high disregard for life itself.

Also when looking at the American system, does anyone truly believe that if you replaced 90% of European Whites in the US with current South American immigrants, then you would have a similar country? No - that place would resemble Brazil pretty soon. However you could replace Americans with Europeans, Russians, Chinese, Japanese or Jews - you would have an almost identical system with some twists, but at similar levels of civilization.

All other ethnicities taken from around the world and put into the US system would fuck that very said system up pretty fast.

In addition there is also another problem with immigration to the West - ECONOMICS. Menial work is disappearing, corporations are offshoring work, middle class is disappearing, a vast economic underclass is appearing. That trend has been happening since the 1970s and was only econoimically halted in the 1980s to 2000s via a massive private debt expansion (but no effective rise of disposible income).

So to put it short - even if all South Americans coming in were almost identical to Americans - there would be hardly any advantage for most Americans. There are only disadvantages for the wide majority.

I actually speak about this from first hand experience, having spent over 20 years living in California. The key issue to be addressed here IMO is that of 'legal' vs. 'illegal' immigration. There are ton of latinos who moved to the U.S., worked hard, integrated, and became lawyers, accountants, doctors, plumbers, etc. The people that keep streaming over the border are often the lowest of the low, even measured by S.A. standards. Now I will not argue your point that S.A. in general is a failed continent albeit the reasons for that are somewhat related to this thread let's not get sidetracked.

In general however, my point stands. If I can choose between a LEGALLY immigrated latino and even a LEGALLY immigrated Muslim I will pick the latino every single time. Why? Because deep inside that Muslim, even if he's intelligent and willing to integrate to some extent, lurks the evil of Islam. He will never abandon the core values of Islam and most likely pass them on to his children. And 20 years later you'll find that his children and grandchildren are following a similar path as many young European born Muslims.

I personally met a ton of Latinos in my time in California and most of them were extremely forthcoming, polite, and respectful to me. Clearly I didn't spend much time in any gang territory ;-)

In a nutshell - I don't disagree with you but urge you to not disqualify a certain percentage of latinos who do represent a huge asset to American society. They are mostly traditional, religious, believe in family, and work extremely hard to make ends meet. And most importantly of all - most of them (yes, I know there are a few) are usually happy to have made it to the U.S. and do not intent on taking over the U.S., despite representing a significant percentage of the U.S. population.

(07-24-2016 04:51 PM)hydrogonian Wrote:  

(07-24-2016 03:21 PM)HighSpeed_LowDrag Wrote:  I've seen it personally. When I studied in Hamburg I watched a German professor nearly have an aneurysm when I made the modest contention that ethnicity was the primary basis of German identity.

I believe it. I had an older German co-worker, with whom I previously had gotten along with great for about four months, stop talking to me after I endorsed second amendment logic and culture.

Yup, sounds familiar. I've noticed a petering out of contact from a few old German friends/acquaintances in recent times. Coincidentally began to happen shortly after I made a post on Facebook critical of the migrant invasion. A quick perusal of their friends revealed almost every one of their peers cucking for refugees welcome and railing against "racism". The brainwashing runs deep with these types.
There is almost no hope of unplugging such people who have been indoctrinated in sjw thinking and cultural marxism via public education and the media for two decades or more.

(07-25-2016 05:14 AM)DarianFrey Wrote:  After a horrific week in Germany, can any German user comment on the situation "on the ground"?

How are your friends, family, co-workers reacting to the latest migrant attacks?

I don't have any friends or family there anymore but knowing the Germans let me try to make a few predictions:

• Expressions of incredulity.
• Endless debate over the underlying reasons for all those attacks whilst ignoring the ugly truth that continues to stare them in the face.
• Blaming the AfD and Pegida for 'taking advantage of the situation'.
• Calls for more security/surveillance and a ban on private LEGAL weapon ownership.
• Calls to not jump to conclusion and that most of these attacks were 'isolated attacks' which haven nothing to do with Islam.
• Further introspection as to what the Germans may have done wrong to cause so much hate and thus provoking these attacks.
• Concerns that the Right will take unfairly advantage of all the situation, despite the fact that everything they predicted has come true (and worse).
  

I think that'll cover most of it.

(07-25-2016 05:44 AM)redpillage Wrote:  I don't have any friends or family there anymore but knowing the Germans let me try to make a few predictions:

• Expressions of incredulity.
• Endless debate over the underlying reasons for all those attacks whilst ignoring the ugly truth that continues to stare them in the face.
• Blaming the AfD and Pegida for 'taking advantage of the situation'.
• Calls for more security/surveillance and a ban on private LEGAL weapon ownership.
• Calls to not jump to conclusion and that most of these attacks were 'isolated attacks' which haven nothing to do with Islam.
• Further introspection as to what the Germans may have done wrong to cause so much hate and thus provoking these attacks.
• Concerns that the Right will take unfairly advantage of all the situation, despite the fact that everything they predicted has come true (and worse).
  

I think that'll cover most of it.

You forgot one redpillage:


Continued uninterrupted blind German obedience to authority



This exchange was in the "'Shots fired' in Munich shopping centre" thread but belongs here to understand the German mindset and attitude towards their rulers:

(07-24-2016 05:10 PM)Parzival Wrote:  The massive assaults and attacks we face now are very new. For this they are to new to change a mentality of trust in the state that did grow since the occupation of Germany and even before. Germans did always trust in the authorities. Its hard to compare this to an Anglo mentality where everyone has to take care of his own.

(07-24-2016 06:53 PM)Samseau Wrote:  Honestly dude, it seems to be a flaw in whatever Nordic DNA makes up Germans and Swedes to be so trusting of the government, if the Germans still believed Government is to be trusted after Hitler then really they learned absolutely nothing from WW2.

"They have forgotten nothing and have learned nothing."

(07-24-2016 08:18 PM)Mercenary Wrote:  From the time of the Prussian empire, Germans have always loved to obey authority.
Apart from a few isolated incidents, the people there really dont have serious history of resistance or uprising against their rulers.

Even the night the berlin wall came down it was because a GDR communist government official named Gunter Schabowski had said on state television he had an official paper saying the border would be opened....otherwise they would have never stormed the gates. Really.

And in parliament, even controversial laws get passed with large majorities from all parties.
Referendums are unheard of.

Obedience to laws and authority is like a sexual fetish in Germany.

Lets see if this will finally change.
Im not keeping my hopes up.

(07-25-2016 01:30 AM)Parzival Wrote:  I know. And I don't understand it. Beside me I don't know much people that ever question the authorities hard. You only can help an addict when he realize he has a problem. As long as Germans don't question the trust in the authorities there will be no change. Hell I even believe Merkel will gain points in the surveys again.

(07-24-2016 05:51 PM)I DIDNT KILL MY WIFE Wrote:  

(07-24-2016 04:38 PM)iop890 Wrote:  
Checkmate, xenophobes!

You just need to add 1 or 2 bullet points reading "will shoot up the nearest mall" and "will brutally rape your sister/daughter unprovoked", then it'll be more truthful

I'd say this picture is bullshit, because none of those invaders will
cure cancer.

Out of 1.8 million migrants that came in the last 12 months in Europe,

hardly even 0.2 % of them are having a job.

The other all came just to collect benefits

(07-25-2016 05:14 AM)DarianFrey Wrote:  After a horrific week in Germany, can any German user comment on the situation "on the ground"?

How are your friends, family, co-workers reacting to the latest migrant attacks?

Merkel befiehl, wir folgen dir!
Merkel order, we follow you!

Beside the stuff mention above I add this:
I'm not a racist but something has to happen...
What going on in the mind of those people?
Not all of them are like that...
Deport them...

In just 1 single week, how many attacks were in Germany?

- axe afghan refugee in train, who attacked 20 people

- arab muslim shouting pro islam, who killed 9 in Mc Donalds in Munich

- the machete guy who cut and killed a pregnant woman

- today's explosion

- the 3 girls cut to their death for being improperly dressed...

Still, today I posted on a german forum and I predicted that
a guy named Ahmed or Mohammed will do at least one new mass attack
this summer.

They banned me in a matter of minutes.

posted in wrong thread, delete

While things certainly look grim right now, a sliver of light is that the jihadist migrants have zero restraint or long-term planning. If they could only be patient and pretend to live peacefully for a few years until they reach the critical mass, we would all be 100% fucked.

(07-25-2016 05:57 AM)Mercenary Wrote:  Continued uninterrupted blind German obedience to authority

In my opinion, you have to separate their nature, which almost always leads to incredibly efficient and safe societies that kick everyone else's ass, and the effects of the psychological abuse that they continue to endure since WWII that has taken advantage of and warped that nature.

You can be sure that the cutting edge of demoralization and indoctrination mass psychology research has been applied to them for at least 75 years.

I was raised by Germans on one side of my family, and German-Brits on the other. The full German side fully retained their German personality characteristics, and so I can speak to it (but of course not better than Prazival).

Following rules and authority is not a defect, absent this characteristics willful deformation. It's actually the precise opposite of chaos.

It comes from a place of knowing how things best work, being correct, and applying yourself to that standard without apology. In short, it comes from a place of intellect and a control over emotion.

Today, through institutionalized shame and psychological abuse, that instinct has been directed toward the globalist project.

Their sense has been warped to see their self interest as illogical as they used to see it as logical, and to ignore the defects in others that prohibit them from comprehending and executing on the German social standard.

In short, they've been trained to ignore and devalue their own nature except when it comes to enforcing the rules that help wipe out that nature and their society.

It isn't their fault, nor the fault of their nature, but the result of social programming that did not come from their authority.

(07-25-2016 05:34 AM)redpillage Wrote:  I actually speak about this from first hand experience, having spent over 20 years living in California. The key issue to be addressed here IMO is that of 'legal' vs. 'illegal' immigration. There are ton of latinos who moved to the U.S., worked hard, integrated, and became lawyers, accountants, doctors, plumbers, etc. The people that keep streaming over the border are often the lowest of the low, even measured by S.A. standards. Now I will not argue your point that S.A. in general is a failed continent albeit the reasons for that are somewhat related to this thread let's not get sidetracked.

Legal vs Illegal immigration is part of the problem. However, the other part of the problem that is not addressed is whether Latin Americans are compatible with America. The past fifty years show that the majority of Latin Americans who immigrated to the US are not compatible with American society.

Quote:In general however, my point stands. If I can choose between a LEGALLY immigrated latino and even a LEGALLY immigrated Muslim I will pick the latino every single time. Why? Because deep inside that Muslim, even if he's intelligent and willing to integrate to some extent, lurks the evil of Islam. He will never abandon the core values of Islam and most likely pass them on to his children. And 20 years later you'll find that his children and grandchildren are following a similar path as many young European born Muslims.

I agree with your argument that the average Hispanic immigrant is better than the average Muslim immigrant. However, this comparison is pointless because the average Hispanic immigrant is not better than the average American citizen. On average, Hispanic immigrants commit more crime, earn less, and are more dependent on welfare than the average American citizen.

In regards to second and third generation Hispanics, it doesn't get better. For starters, the average IQ of Hispanics is lower than the average IQ of white Americans. In addition that English is a second language for most second generation Hispanics, they will have more trouble in school than their white counterparts. Consequently, the government spends more money to assist them. Eventually, that doesn't work and, as a result, standards are lowered so that more Hispanic students can graduate. This is how a first world country becomes a a third world country - by lowering its standards.

I haven't even mentioned the gangs, such as MS13, that are formed by second generation Hispanics. Nor I have mentioned the second generation and third generation Hispanics who get radicalized by the cultural Marxists in schools and universities.

Quote:I personally met a ton of Latinos in my time in California and most of them were extremely forthcoming, polite, and respectful to me. Clearly I didn't spend much time in any gang territory ;-)

I have met many nice Muslims. Does that mean that US should start accepting more Syrian refugees like Germany?

Quote:In a nutshell - I don't disagree with you but urge you to not disqualify a certain percentage of latinos who do represent a huge asset to American society. They are mostly traditional, religious, believe in family, and work extremely hard to make ends meet. And most importantly of all - most of them (yes, I know there are a few) are usually happy to have made it to the U.S. and do not intent on taking over the U.S., despite representing a significant percentage of the U.S. population.

The Hispanics you are championing are a minority (probably ten to thirty percent of the Hispanic population). Most Hispanics are burden to America because they commit more crime, are more dependent on welfare, have lower IQs, and are more prone to being radicalized by cultural Marxism.

You say that they are traditional and that is true. But you ignore the fact that they are traditional in the sense of being Mexican, Salvadoran, Peruvian, etc. They are not traditionally American.

I don't deny that they are religious. However, the majority of Hispanics immigrating are Catholics. America is a protestant country, not a Catholic one, and part of the success of America is due to its protestant origins. Furthermore, there is a really good post by Days of Broken Arrows that demonstrates the ties between Catholicism and SJWism, at least here in the US.

If Hispanics have strong family values, then why do they have some many children when they do not have the means to support such a big family? They are setting up their children for failure by doing so.

Your claim that Hispanics work extremely is empty rhetoric used by liberals all the time to justify more immigration. So are you saying Americans don't work hard? Or the Japanese, Chinese, etc.?

And finally, your claim that many Hispanics are happy or proud to be American is not true. Yes, there is a minority of Hispanics who are proud to be American. However, the majority are indifferent or consider themselves Mexican, Salvadoran, etc. first and American second.

Again, like I said I don't hate Hispanics. Nonetheless, it is a fact that the post-1965 immigration from Latin America to the US has, in general, been a gigantic failure for the US.

Ignoring the harmful effects of Hispanic immigration by saying that Hispanics are better than Muslims is foolish. Both mass Hispanic and Middle Eastern immigration lead to the suicide of the host country.

This will be my last post on this topic in this thread since I don't want to derail it any more. We can continue this discussion by PM or on the migrant invasion US thread.

Would exchange Hispanics for Muslims.

I dunno about all this X-race has higher average IQ than Y-race.

As if IQ is the be all & end all of human value.