(07-11-2016 08:01 PM)coverdoc Wrote:  

(07-11-2016 07:52 PM)RaulValdez739 Wrote:  Djemba, I understand completely what you mean regarding improving our finances and education.

Coverdoc, One of the reasons I am bringing this up is because I read the Dallas thread and I read the reaction to your point of view. I don't like when a different point of view is dismissed because one is perceived as "Emotional", "SJW", or "Troll". Those words are now used when someone wants to kill a different point of view as oppose to what they should be used for. I have noticed this now.

Quintus, Thanks. I will wait for more people to chime in.

I want to say one final thing to all the brothers on the forum. Women and travel are fun and we will never stop discussing these things. The last couple of days have been very eye opening and we have a duty to be constructive during these serious times. Going about our regular lives when Black men are killed by police unwarranted and not discussing the impact that it has on all Black men around the USA is not constructive. If we discuss on a separate thread while being respectful and open to all point of views, I am almost positive that a majority of us will be in alignment in counter opposition to the current thread in EE. My intuition says so. More brothers please chime in regards to my earlier post.

Here is the thing, I was discussing with a friend of mine the other day. The reason why I feel like more successful brothers don't speak up is because you are fighting two battles. Why now have a problem with two brothers getting gunned down by cops, when just last month in Chicago 20x that number were murdered. Many under the age of 18. For every "i'm proud to see you doing good brother, let me know if I can help." There are at least 5 "He talk white, he a sell out, he mugged me, he think he better than me" types. I for one am sick of dealing with it on both fronts. You have racist non blacks, but you also have racist blacks with self hated in just as many numbers if not more.

Go out and try to preach your message of unity, you will be drowned out by the first two chainz song that comes on, or the first instagram model flashing her ass. It's a losing battle. I'm more focused on elevating myself and then providing help to like minded individuals who can see past the BET programming.

-CD

This is why my personal perspective on things are very unorthodox of what is expected from a black man. For every conservative white racist I ran across, I had to deal with three liberal white racist and six ghetto black hoodlums. This is why I don't have a strong feeling either way about the Sterling and Castile shootings as well as the Dallas Shooting. And this is why I personally don't play Online Luther King and try to make those on the other side see my way understand why certain things are wrong. At this point especially, I say let the MRA/Alt Right and SJW/Progressive left have their little online wars which will manifest itself into an actual war and drag this country down with it. America decided that they don't non-stereotypical blacks to be considered a fabric of the country once they implemented the welfare state and gangsta rap culture. So to defend it on either side is asinine at best.

But as many leaders say: never let a tragic opportunity go to waste. While the rest of the nation is distracted, this is the perfect time to PLAN and BUILD. Now your definition of planning and building may be different, but while the eyes of those who want to hinder you are distracted, now is the perfect opportunity to plan and build.

For the black man who isn't a walking stereotype, my suggestion is to plan and build for the day America decides to go full throttle 1940s Germany on us. And trust me, the non-sterotypical blacks will the #1 target, more than the "Illegals" and "Terrorists". And yes, even more of a target than ghetto blacks; for they are a white supremacist's best fuel and best friend. It may be in a few decades or a few weeks, but I have a feeling that a lot of these events, specifically the emotional reactions (Dallas Cop Shooting, St Paul quasi-riot, etc.) are going to be used to justify it. Although I was the most upset about the Dallas Shooting mainly because I believe that a non-emotional response puts blacks in a better and more moral light internationally. The moral high ground is very useful tool that can be utilized internationally so that when the USA becomes the next Nazi Germany, on-point blacks have multiple places to escape to...just like blacks did back before and during the Civil Rights and Black Power movements.

Ways to prepare for it have been sporadically discussed on this thread, but from what I've gathered, learned, and implementing, the best thing we can do to prepare to be in a secure place or haul ass when the time comes are the following:

-Get an education, trade, or self-owned business that will allow you to be mobile - or at least gain a job - internationally.
-Learn a new language, even if only at a conversational level.
-Pay off ALL debts and SAVE so you can be accountable to no entity and be mobile if and when the time comes.
-Live BELOW your means. There's no use to floss and stunt in a nation where your own women are becoming more ghetto and ratchet, and non-black women are becoming more feminist and racist.
-Make connections with whomever you can who can help you build and plan.
-Especially if you plan to stick it out in America, go the Prepper Route and stack up with all the necessities one needs to survive an economic and societal collapse.
-If you can find any place with excess chicks who are bored because their men are too busy fighting the "Good Alt Right Fight", you know what to do.

At this point, take the opportunity to capitalize on the things the masses aren't focusing on. If nothing happens from this and America just goes back into a slow moral decline like it has been doing, you're ahead of the pack. If America goes into an SHTF mode, you'll be ready to take action to go a more non-stereotypical black man friendly part of the world (or even country).

Anyone else can feel free to add any other suggestions for building and planning.

(07-11-2016 09:16 PM)SuS Wrote:  

(07-11-2016 08:01 PM)coverdoc Wrote:  

(07-11-2016 07:52 PM)RaulValdez739 Wrote:  Djemba, I understand completely what you mean regarding improving our finances and education.

Coverdoc, One of the reasons I am bringing this up is because I read the Dallas thread and I read the reaction to your point of view. I don't like when a different point of view is dismissed because one is perceived as "Emotional", "SJW", or "Troll". Those words are now used when someone wants to kill a different point of view as oppose to what they should be used for. I have noticed this now.

Quintus, Thanks. I will wait for more people to chime in.

I want to say one final thing to all the brothers on the forum. Women and travel are fun and we will never stop discussing these things. The last couple of days have been very eye opening and we have a duty to be constructive during these serious times. Going about our regular lives when Black men are killed by police unwarranted and not discussing the impact that it has on all Black men around the USA is not constructive. If we discuss on a separate thread while being respectful and open to all point of views, I am almost positive that a majority of us will be in alignment in counter opposition to the current thread in EE. My intuition says so. More brothers please chime in regards to my earlier post.

Here is the thing, I was discussing with a friend of mine the other day. The reason why I feel like more successful brothers don't speak up is because you are fighting two battles. Why now have a problem with two brothers getting gunned down by cops, when just last month in Chicago 20x that number were murdered. Many under the age of 18. For every "i'm proud to see you doing good brother, let me know if I can help." There are at least 5 "He talk white, he a sell out, he mugged me, he think he better than me" types. I for one am sick of dealing with it on both fronts. You have racist non blacks, but you also have racist blacks with self hated in just as many numbers if not more.

Go out and try to preach your message of unity, you will be drowned out by the first two chainz song that comes on, or the first instagram model flashing her ass. It's a losing battle. I'm more focused on elevating myself and then providing help to like minded individuals who can see past the BET programming.

-CD

This is why my personal perspective on things are very unorthodox of what is expected from a black man. For every conservative white racist I ran across, I had to deal with three liberal white racist and six ghetto black hoodlums. This is why I don't have a strong feeling either way about the Sterling and Castile shootings as well as the Dallas Shooting. And this is why I personally don't play Online Luther King and try to make those on the other side see my way understand why certain things are wrong. At this point especially, I say let the MRA/Alt Right and SJW/Progressive left have their little online wars which will manifest itself into an actual war and drag this country down with it. America decided that they don't non-stereotypical blacks to be considered a fabric of the country once they implemented the welfare state and gangsta rap culture. So to defend it on either side is asinine at best.

But as many leaders say: never let a tragic opportunity go to waste. While the rest of the nation is distracted, this is the perfect time to PLAN and BUILD. Now your definition of planning and building may be different, but while the eyes of those who want to hinder you are distracted, now is the perfect opportunity to plan and build.

For the black man who isn't a walking stereotype, my suggestion is to plan and build for the day America decides to go full throttle 1940s Germany on us. And trust me, the non-sterotypical blacks will the #1 target, more than the "Illegals" and "Terrorists". And yes, even more of a target than ghetto blacks; for they are a white supremacist's best fuel and best friend. It may be in a few decades or a few weeks, but I have a feeling that a lot of these events, specifically the emotional reactions (Dallas Cop Shooting, St Paul quasi-riot, etc.) are going to be used to justify it. Although I was the most upset about the Dallas Shooting mainly because I believe that a non-emotional response puts blacks in a better and more moral light internationally. The moral high ground is very useful tool that can be utilized internationally so that when the USA becomes the next Nazi Germany, on-point blacks have multiple places to escape to...just like blacks did back before and during the Civil Rights and Black Power movements.

Ways to prepare for it have been sporadically discussed on this thread, but from what I've gathered, learned, and implementing, the best thing we can do to prepare to be in a secure place or haul ass when the time comes are the following:

-Get an education, trade, or self-owned business that will allow you to be mobile - or at least gain a job - internationally.
-Learn a new language, even if only at a conversational level.
-Pay off ALL debts and SAVE so you can be accountable to no entity and be mobile if and when the time comes.
-Live BELOW your means. There's no use to floss and stunt in a nation where your own women are becoming more ghetto and ratchet, and non-black women are becoming more feminist and racist.
-Make connections with whomever you can who can help you build and plan.
-Especially if you plan to stick it out in America, go the Prepper Route and stack up with all the necessities one needs to survive an economic and societal collapse.
-If you can find any place with excess chicks who are bored because their men are too busy fighting the "Good Alt Right Fight", you know what to do.

At this point, take the opportunity to capitalize on the things the masses aren't focusing on. If nothing happens from this and America just goes back into a slow moral decline like it has been doing, you're ahead of the pack. If America goes into an SHTF mode, you'll be ready to take action to go a more non-stereotypical black man friendly part of the world (or even country).

Anyone else can feel free to add any other suggestions for building and planning.

Well said my friend, every man should be doing this already.

This goes double for the black men.

(07-11-2016 09:15 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  RaulValdez - Trump is popular because he speaks to a demographic that is unhappy.

Roissy speaks to the same group, I will admit that some of his game articles are pretty good.

The forum isn't the place to talk about historic failures of the government and the future of the black man.

We have a solid group of guys on this thread, Fortis for example is in China doing his thing. He ain't in his mom's basement, smoking weed and playing video games.

As the saying goes, do you Dude. Don't worry about the distractions.

^ what's really funny is that I WAS in my grandmother's basement doing just that until this time last year.



Things done changed.

@rudebwoy: That's fair. Being in a city only a few hours doesn't provide one with a lot of data but that's just how I felt based on the vibe I felt from the city and the girls. A small disclaimer though; I like Asian girls...like, a lot.

@moma: No, I was just passing through, and was with family, so no bangs, but I will go back by myself later this summer and report back.

QC, also no disrespect, but I too must disagree.

On top of what others have said, I'd also argue that many of these discussions don't matter, because they don't result in action.

Most of the forum members I've met, especially those abroad, barely post anymore, if at all, for that reason. Right or wrong, they've written the entire forum off, save for maybe meet ups, because it's gone from actionable self-improvement, to what they'd consider as victim mentality. Definitely a loss for the forum.

And like others have done, I've chimed in a few times over there to try and convince these folks to focus on self-improvement instead of being a victim. Alas, I never see them in the self-improvement sections, either giving or receiving, so I too must assume my words are falling on deaf ears. And just like in Game and Travel, you learn that instead of focusing on bad leads or locations, you just next them.

(07-11-2016 09:46 PM)Fortis Wrote:  ^ what's really funny is that I WAS in my grandmother's basement doing just that until this time last year.



Things done changed.

We were all in our mom's basement at one point.

^ I've got no regrets man. If that's what it took for me to end up doing what I'm doing now then fuck it. I'll gladly trumpet that fact, haha.

But seriously, I'm glad I took a chance on a new country. Life's too short to sit in some cold basement wondering "what if?"

(07-08-2016 04:04 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  If it's just a run and gun?
- wait for a break in the action
- make sure staff and customers aren't in earshot. (her social reality)
- A quick shot of game, "hey, you look interesting, we should get together..."

That's all you can really do without getting elaborate and working the line, working the staff, and working the manager. (Turning Qdoba into the club..)

With the short time, social context, and direct approach - this is actually a live version of Tinder.

WIA

Agreed with this. There really is no time to do anything else. She's at work. Just cut and run is my preferred method so far.

These few months have shown me how amazingly fast it can be to find an attracted girl. Just showing up (approaching) is half the battle sometimes.

I can see the benefit to being a regular though. I'm somewhat of a regular at this Subway near my house and I have fun banter with this chubby Indian chick lol. She's almost always working alone when I come and no customers.

(07-12-2016 08:33 AM)Fortis Wrote:  ^ I've got no regrets man. If that's what it took for me to end up doing what I'm doing now then fuck it. I'll gladly trumpet that fact, haha.

I'm starting to feel the same way. I've noticed that the people who hit rock bottom the hardest also tend to reach the most success.

I've been on Internet forums since the days of bulletin boards and I know from experience the illusion of anonymity brings out the worst in people. Off topic, Everything else, Comment sections, etc on just about any forum or news site is spewing with the manifestations of peoples perceived frustrations. It's a losing battle I personally gave up on long ago. It reminds of that debate over that dress on SM awhile back, however I cannot convince you the dress is blue when you can't even see the dress.

I will speak to this though, because it's been brought up so often in this thread. I sense a general feeling of disenfranchisement among young brothers who emphatically embrace this "non-stereotypical black" label, as if it's an asset or a detriment. Black folk are not a monolithic block. There are plenty of people that represent your values that look like you, however unless you seek them out, you'll continuously feel like an outsider.
My circle consists of highly educated professional folk with diverse, yet similar backgrounds of upward mobility, which on its face, would seem impossible to find given the demographics of where I am. For awhile, it seemed like there were either, lower-socioeconomic folks, or 1%'ers UNTIL I got out and linked up with similar minded folks frequenting the events that interested me.

The bottom line, get your paper, but always remember, your life is no more or less valuable than anyone else's.

You guys need to start thinking of BLM openers.

"Say baby maybe we can get together and talk about the revolution being televised."

Shout out to Kaneda of Akira fame

WIA

(07-12-2016 12:01 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  You guys need to start thinking of BLM openers.

"Say baby maybe we can get together and talk about the revolution being televised."

Shout out to Kaneda of Akira fame

WIA

LOL! I just watched Akira last month!

I just remembered AfroPunk NYC is coming up. I should pick up a ticket. That should be quite interesting this year.

Them broads might be too woke!

WIA

(07-12-2016 12:45 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  Them broads might be too woke!

WIA

lol yeah. I'll just go and see what happens. I'm a sucker for chocolate skin, slim body, sweet voices, and nice natural hair. There's a diamond in every coalmine, or however the saying goes...

(07-12-2016 12:55 PM)WalkingMan Wrote:  lol yeah. I'll just go and see what happens. I'm a sucker for chocolate skin, slim body, sweet voices, and nice natural hair. There's a diamond in every coalmine, or however the saying goes...

Ooohweee, yessir. Seems like the slim ones are becoming increasingly rarer these days almost to the point they are damn near exotic, lol. Whenever I see one, I always approach and don't hold back on the compliments.

^They are plentiful in NYC. You can't live here and be overweight at the same time. The walks are too long and the apartments are too small lol.

Of course, this isn't Bangkok...

Naw I saw nuff fatty dem pon da 2/5 train.

WIA

WIA - Sum mampi independence parade to rhatid!

(07-12-2016 12:01 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  You guys need to start thinking of BLM openers.

"Say baby maybe we can get together and talk about the revolution being televised."

Shout out to Kaneda of Akira fame

WIA

What's funny is that I actually went to one of these shit rallies before they came together and created BLM. The target was this light brown, golden eyed dreadlock goddess. I gambled on her being at the rally held outside one of the university centers. I went with a friend of mine, who wasn't game aware at the time. I told him my plan and he said it was bonkers.

Everyone lined up in a circle and she apparently was one of the higher ups in the group. I took my opportunity and gave some shit speech about coming together to defeat the man and blah blah blah. Half the girls in the groups, I noticed at non black frat parties turning up a few weeks back.

Long story short, after my impromptu speech everyone clapped and she had that look of desire in her eyes. I went straight over, introduced myself and said "You should take me to lunch down at the school's mediterranean restaurant. She complied, we walked right over and didn't talk anything about movements the entire time. I ran game as usual and ended up getting the bang about a week later. Girl was a freak, but what's more important is that she was a hardcore feminist. Once I spit that game to her and told her flat out " I don't give a shit about none of that women movement stuff" she became like a puppy dog.

There's gold to be had if you play your cards right at these events. I wouldn't fuck around with none of those street protest, walking in the highway shit. You're likely to go from Player to Player pancake quick.

-CD

^wow, an impromptu public speech. That is fantastic. I have to steal this. Maybe I can spring one at the event.

I've been in and out of those circles, too insular for my tastes, but for the right chick I could Bobby Seale. I Huey Newton enough as it is.

But where a lot of folks think they're too liberal, I think they're too tame. It's a bunch of kids that haven't studied black history with a revolutionary mindset.

But there is a whole lot of fucking going on in any of those movements. It's just like the congressional black caucus or church on a Sunday.

WIA

I know this is generalizing but I've just kinda given up on the majority of the black community. The only blacks I will hang with are brothers who I feel have the same ambitions and lifestyle that I do..... otherwise I am just not interested at all.

Don't kill me fellas haha.

That's the actual situation in the streets.
Unity is only on television and in time of crisis.

That just sets up inefficiencies for some, and opportunities for others.

WIA

I've never understood why white nationalists hate black men who date white women. They're fine (to a certain extent) with Jews and other non-black men dating white women, but when it's a black man, all hell breaks loose. Are we that much of a threat to them?

Anyone been to Kenya or South Africa?

My usual African interests are Ghana, Nigeria, and Senegal. I feel like East Africa, save Ethiopia

WIA