(07-02-2016 03:19 PM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote: This is absolutely insane. Not only is EU again outsourcing border control to countries with no ability or motivation to do it, but it is now outsourcing it to completely unrelated countries. What the hell does Nigeria have to do with migrants coming to Europe? Will it stop migrants from Zimbabwe or something? Most countries where the African migrants come from are West and North African countries, and people from there never pass through Nigeria at all.
What a giant scam. Whomever falls for this is a complete idiot.
(07-02-2016 10:54 PM)dain_bramage Wrote: ...
Is there anything we can do? Are we inclined to think more in terms of personal survival than that of nation?
(07-03-2016 01:11 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:(07-02-2016 10:54 PM)dain_bramage Wrote: ...
Is there anything we can do? Are we inclined to think more in terms of personal survival than that of nation?
You can't influence a nation but unless you flee you can't reliably survive on your lonesome.
My suggestion remains that people in globalist occupied territory should start attending grassroots protest movements with the intention of meeting other alpha males that can join together and create either resistance movements or mutual protective alliances.
Inevitably I see homogeneous nationalist neighbourhoods forming despite state interference. These will operate similar to muslim no-go zones for the police, or the police will get with the programs and make themselves scarce.
Nationalists should be prepared to move to these locations as soon as they become apparent and get in at ground level on whatever organisational structures spring up to keep the undesirables out.
(07-02-2016 10:54 PM)dain_bramage Wrote: I fear that the insanity will spread as far as my own neighborhood with more and more 'refugees' and 'newcomers' approaching.
(07-02-2016 10:54 PM)dain_bramage Wrote: But if I were to try to convince my peers that's its insane I will be labelled Xenophobic and a bigot. I already have been. I just want a safe home in a community of people I have something in common with and a high level of trust and easy communication.
(07-02-2016 10:54 PM)dain_bramage Wrote: It seems from what I've read from the posts from you guys that the idiocy of the cuck European runs deep. It will take a huge reckoning to change their minds. I am inclined to think many will not and will be victims of pro invader sophistry's horrible consequences.
(07-02-2016 10:54 PM)dain_bramage Wrote: Is there anything we can do? Are we inclined to think more in terms of personal survival than that of nation?
(07-03-2016 01:11 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote: Inevitably I see homogeneous nationalist neighbourhoods forming despite state interference. These will operate similar to muslim no-go zones for the police, or the police will get with the programs and make themselves scarce.
(07-03-2016 09:58 AM)Khan Wrote:(07-03-2016 01:11 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote: Inevitably I see homogeneous nationalist neighbourhoods forming despite state interference. These will operate similar to muslim no-go zones for the police, or the police will get with the programs and make themselves scarce.
I'm skeptical about this. Muslim no-go zones for the police only exist because the elites running the country don't have the political will to enforce the law in those neighborhoods. If the government wanted to get rid of sharia law neighborhoods, it could do so in one afternoon by sending the military/special forces to do their thing.
I don't think nationalist, Muslim-free neighborhoods would ever work (that is, without the collapse of the current social order). If they formed, have no doubts - there would be more than enough political will to send in the military with guns blazing.
The same principle is at play with the migrant 'crisis'. The only reason there is a crisis in the first place is because the elites want it this way. If they wanted to make Europe safe, they could do it in a heartbeat.
(07-03-2016 10:24 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:(07-03-2016 09:58 AM)Khan Wrote:(07-03-2016 01:11 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote: Inevitably I see homogeneous nationalist neighbourhoods forming despite state interference. These will operate similar to muslim no-go zones for the police, or the police will get with the programs and make themselves scarce.
I'm skeptical about this. Muslim no-go zones for the police only exist because the elites running the country don't have the political will to enforce the law in those neighborhoods. If the government wanted to get rid of sharia law neighborhoods, it could do so in one afternoon by sending the military/special forces to do their thing.
I don't think nationalist, Muslim-free neighborhoods would ever work (that is, without the collapse of the current social order). If they formed, have no doubts - there would be more than enough political will to send in the military with guns blazing.
The same principle is at play with the migrant 'crisis'. The only reason there is a crisis in the first place is because the elites want it this way. If they wanted to make Europe safe, they could do it in a heartbeat.
It's not quite as simple as that. The no-go zone is less about challenging the authorities and more about making life a living hell for anyone that isn't "one of our guys".
Let's take your example. The police and the military roll into a muslim ghetto. They might do some raids and uncover some weapons (probably a fraction of the overall total) but they aren't likely to be sticking around long, and the more of these districts that pop up, the thinner the authorities will be spread. They also aren't going to be settling white nationalists or jews there, are they?
Consider the same situation with a nationalist enclave. Are they going to settle a hundred muslims or progressives in the area and then leave? Even if they did, how long would those people last before being run out of town?
Could they make the place liveable for muslims and progressives? Even if there was a 24/7 military presence? No. "Invaders and traitors not welcome" is the point of the no-go zone, whether it's populated by muslims or nationalists. Much like there are places in the deep south of the US that Black people refuse to live, and Black/Latino ghettos in LA that white people wouldn't dare to move to.
I'm not saying these places would be an economic paradise. The government would try their best to make life hard for the occupants. But it's a question of priorities and ultimately a question of survival.
(07-03-2016 10:24 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote: Let's take your example. The police and the military roll into a muslim ghetto. They might do some raids and uncover some weapons (probably a fraction of the overall total) but they aren't likely to be sticking around long, and the more of these districts that pop up, the thinner the authorities will be spread. They also aren't going to be settling white nationalists or jews there, are they?
Quote:The German Chancellor has been widely criticised after the UK’s EU referendum on June 23, with several leading politicians claiming Mrs Merkel open-doors policy on refugees gave Euro sceptics the ammunition they needed to abandon the Euro bloc.
Speaking at a Brussels summit dinner earlier this week, David Cameron declared that a "sense there was no control on immigration or free movement" was to blame for the historic "Leave" vote.
While the Prime Minister blamed the Remain camp’s failure the EU’s migrant policy Ukip leader Nigel Farage, Austria’s far-right Freedom Party and U.S. investor George Soros blasted the German Chancellor.
(07-03-2016 01:43 PM)dain_bramage Wrote: Just off on a different note: Thanks Redpillage for taking the time to read my post and make excellent points on it. It means a lot to have well spoken men share information with me and give advice. Thanks!
I am planning on moving way out into the middle of nowhere to set up a kind of homestead. ...
(07-03-2016 08:42 PM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:(07-03-2016 01:43 PM)dain_bramage Wrote: Just off on a different note: Thanks Redpillage for taking the time to read my post and make excellent points on it. It means a lot to have well spoken men share information with me and give advice. Thanks!
I am planning on moving way out into the middle of nowhere to set up a kind of homestead. ...
Speaking from a position of experience I highly advise against this. You will be much better off first moving to a remote village but remaining within the town boundary.
If you want more info feel free to PM me.
Quote:Blogger Boris Le Lay was last year sentenced to six months in jail for saying he doesn’t believe there is such a thing as black Celts. The sentence was passed in his absence, as the blogger now lives in Japan. Mr Le Lay wrote a blog criticising the judgement. In it, he wrote that the fact the case’s judge was black and female contributed to the harshness of the sentence. For this piece, he received a further two years, suspended sentence prison term while still living in Japan.
Quote:The spokeswoman of the left youth organization (Selin Gören) was raped by migrants. To the police she initially said only that she had been robbed by men who spoke German. Why?
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She did not notice that someone was approaching her from behind. Suddenly she was pushed to the ground. Just do not turn around, she thought, just do not provoke. Snatch the bag and then away.But the three young men overtook her. One of them, with short hair and Arab appearance, pressed her throat. Gören went to her knees; as she opened her mouth to gasp for breath, he put his penis into her mouth. The second, probably an Arab, busied himself in her pants. The third abused them in Kurdish or Farsi, she believes.First Gören was numb with shock, unable to move. By the light of a street lamp she saw the face of one of her tormentors, the pimples, the fuzz on the upper lip. He was fat and wore a leather jacket. Then she awoke from her paralysis - and bit down. The man screamed, he hit her, then the three left her and ran away. Her bag they took.
What had happen to Selin Gören is what most women fear, it was a nightmare. What this case make so special, Goerens's reaction. She went that night to the police. But she said there only that she had been robbed. Of men who have German spoken. The rape she did not mention. National spokesperson of the youth organization of the Left, born in Mannheim. Until this raid their worldview was clear and ordered. Refugees and foreigners: good. German society: evil because racist. The solution, in their opinion: socialism. In her role as spokesperson, she was in the months before the rape on pretty much every "Refugees Welcome" event in the region. Just last year, she had visited a refugee camp in the autonomous region of Kurdistan in Iraq. This information helps in understanding why Gören lied to the police.
Here she tells that she didn't thought of the inflicted injuries but the rally at the Mannheim Paradeplatz, when they had called for the fight against racism and sexism, a few hours before. She thought of all the burning refugee camps in recent months. She thought of the propaganda that migrants endure to the New Year's Eve attacks in Cologne. She did not want them to escape but she did not want that their story would misused by racists. Was she the one whose bag had been stolen, asked a policeman. Gören nodded. The second question of the officials have been: "Had it be refugees?" And she, angry and defiant, thought: That you would like you racist cop. Blame refugees. So she replied: "No". It was a "mixed group", foreigners and German, the men among themselves are speaking German. From the rape she said nothing, so she had gotten over the suspicion of the police.
But Gören decision not to tell anyone the truth yet failed in the same night. As soon as they lay in bed next to her boyfriend, she began to cry. Sobbing, she told him what had happened. How dirty she felt. My friend became angry, she says. At the perpetrators but also on me. He did "very crowded" to go to the police again, says Gören, and in her voice resonates with a reproach. He wanted to comfort her, but was also shocked by the lie. What if the offender went to other women? Was not until two weeks before a woman be raped at the water tower very close? Also this other woman had said the rapist looked like an Arab, he was still not prepared. Could it be the same? More than twelve hours after her first statement she finally went back to the police. This time she testified, the perpetrators have not spoken German. And they had raped her. "Wow," she says at Café Vienna, and opens his eyes. "Never in my life I was so ashamed." The interrogation lasted for hours, the next morning she went with the officers to the scene and was examined by a medical officer.
After nearly two days she came home and the story could have ended here, if Gören hadn’t read the "Rhein-Neckar-Zeitung" on the computer. There she learned that the alleged rape of another woman at the water tower was "possibly faked". The alleged victim had caught in contradictions. Here Gören had therefore especially revised her statement because she thought there somewhere maybe run a serial rapist around freely. And now the other woman had her story apparently invented only. Gören felt anger rise up in herself. For it was immediately clear: This other woman wanted to stir up hatred against foreigners, so they had thought up the rape. And so wrote Selin Gören on Facebook an angry open letter to the "racist abuse victim who invented her rape only". So they made their case public.
This woman wearing complicity, Gören says today for "a socialist and internationalist" it was hard admitting been raped by "people from the Middle East". That the other woman did not act out of racist motives, but probably is mentally ill, she do not want to accept as an excuse.
So she wrote - again in Facebook - an apology to a fictitious male refugee: "For both of us I'm so incredibly sorry you, you're not sure, because we live in a racist society, sexist society.” She explains this letter with her desire to differentiate. Their message was: "There is in every culture sexist, but you may not move all refugees for the actions of individuals to justice." From left, they got a lot of encouragement: great, how open they deal with it. Great that they keep her anti-racist stance. In online forums right another interpretation was popular: "Raped Socialist thanked refugees." Gören got hundreds messages where strangers wished her further rapes.