(07-02-2016 10:54 PM)dain_bramage Wrote:  The whole situation has had the effect of destroying some of my dreams. One being visiting the homeland. I wanted to see Europeans in Europe. To wander around and soak in the culture and the historical sites in relative peace.

I feel similar sentiment. I took up a side-hobby to learn French six years ago, studied it for two years, reached A2 level then stopped. Form time to time I think it would be good to resume French studies. I thought it would be nice to now a classic European language to better appreciate history, read original literature, travel around, meet people and so on.

Now I have doubts about the usefulness of learning French. If Europe gets overrun by Arabs, there will be scarce any French language and culture left to appreciate. I don't even want to travel to France and Western Europe anymore, where shootings, acts of terror and feminism run rampart and you see too much brown people who belong in other countries and other cultures.

I wonder what language should I take to learn instead?

Arabic would be pragmatic choice due to it's wide spread in Europe, but the Arabic culture is totally unappealing to me, there is very little literature and Quran doesn't count I am not interested in Islam at all, too restrictive and boring a religion, girls wear hijabs so it cannot be used to pick up girls either and I don't want to speak with Muslims, knowing the statistics that two thirds of them not so secretly support sharia law, I literally don't want to have any dealings with these boring and aggressive people.

Probably Spanish and Portuguese is a good bet if not Spain and Portugal themselves then at least Latin America is not going to get overrun by Muslims in near future.

^There's always Quebec to parler le francais.

(07-07-2016 07:20 AM)scotian Wrote:  ^There's always Quebec to parler le francais.

I have read that Canada sucks for men in this forum and on ROK.

Don't believe everything you read on here, check the Montreal threads, its a decent place, arguably one of the top party destinations in North America.

Europe is not overrun by Arabs. Its not like they are at every corner and attack people. Its certain hotspots in bigger cities that become no go areas. Even in a city like Berlin or Cologne with bad areas you still can walk there at daylight. We still don't have favela style crime here. Some districts at the edge, when you avoid them nothing to worry. I mean they are down anyway so no need to go there for strangers.

(07-07-2016 07:36 AM)Parzival Wrote:  Europe is not overrun by Arabs. Its not like they are at every corner and attack people. Its certain hotspots in bigger cities that become no go areas. Even in a city like Berlin or Cologne with bad areas you still can walk there at daylight. We still don't have favela style crime here. Some districts at the edge, when you avoid them nothing to worry. I mean they are down anyway so no need to go there for strangers.

Sure but when you compare it to what it was a few years ago, there are much more Arabs overall and much more immigrant crime and if the trend is not reversed it will be even worse after another few years.

(07-07-2016 07:36 AM)Parzival Wrote:  Some districts at the edge, when you avoid them nothing to worry.

Sounds pretty defeatist. How soon until districts turn into cities and cities turn into regions?

I would walk through a muslim dominated area than those culturally diverse ghettos and other areas in US towns and cities. We don't have that level of wasteland in our countries so when US guys here say Europe is lost I just have to laugh.

We may have occasional nuts and a cancerous religion running rampant but at least I'm not going to be murdered just for being white and in the wrong neighbourhood.

(07-07-2016 08:34 AM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  I would walk through a muslim dominated area than those culturally diverse ghettos and other areas in US towns and cities. We don't have that level of wasteland in our countries so when US guys here say Europe is lost I just have to laugh.

We may have occasional nuts and a cancerous religion running rampant but at least I'm not going to be murdered just for being white and in the wrong neighbourhood.

Yes you would, just like America. You don't know what you're talking about. There's already tons of footage of journalists who get beaten for going into the wrong neighborhoods.

Chinese would be the language to learn if you were a bachelor with unlimited business and travel options.

There will be no shortage of need for translators into the future, and corporations will indefinitely be in need of people that can speak both English and Chinese.

Shame it's such a bitch of a language to learn though.

Germany and Europe turns for sure down with the Muslim influence and the look away politics. Personal I'm very happy that my area is still a little paradise compare to other areas. If it all goes down it don't start here and we have a gap of time to prepare.

http://www.welt.de/politik/deutschland/a...mt-ab.html

Quote:The encouragement to "welcome culture" for refugees in Germany has subsided. According to a study by the University of Bielefeld only 28.2 percent of those without an immigrant background favor a stronger culture of welcome. In a survey two years ago it was 36 percent.

Although still almost 43 percent of the population consider the "increasing diversity" in society well. Two years earlier therefore still 47 percent who found this a positive development. The phrase "I am pleased if more and more migrants feel home in Germany" finally voted by 54.7 percent earlier today only 43.3 percent.

"Resentment against immigrants are no longer to be found only on the right side," notes the Mercator Foundation, which has supported the research project, led by the social psychologist Andreas Zick.

The representative survey, which was presented on Thursday in Berlin, shows that the majority of the population while advocating refugee reception still don't want permanent residence of them.

The phrase "Once the situation has improved in the home countries of refugees, they should be sent back," agreed to almost 55 percent of respondents. As many as 17 percent rejected this statement. Approximately 28 percent positioned in the center.

The researchers concluded: When it comes to the refugees, have long-time residents and citizens with an immigrant background similar settings. Nearly 36 percent of Germans without a migration background are of the opinion, "the high number of refugees threaten the future of Germany." Among the citizens of foreign origin, the agreement with this statement is as high as 38 percent.

(07-07-2016 06:25 AM)Mage Wrote:  

(07-02-2016 10:54 PM)dain_bramage Wrote:  The whole situation has had the effect of destroying some of my dreams. One being visiting the homeland. I wanted to see Europeans in Europe. To wander around and soak in the culture and the historical sites in relative peace.

I feel similar sentiment. I took up a side-hobby to learn French six years ago, studied it for two years, reached A2 level then stopped. Form time to time I think it would be good to resume French studies. I thought it would be nice to now a classic European language to better appreciate history, read original literature, travel around, meet people and so on.

Now I have doubts about the usefulness of learning French. If Europe gets overrun by Arabs, there will be scarce any French language and culture left to appreciate. I don't even want to travel to France and Western Europe anymore, where shootings, acts of terror and feminism run rampart and you see too much brown people who belong in other countries and other cultures.

I wonder what language should I take to learn instead?

Arabic would be pragmatic choice due to it's wide spread in Europe, but the Arabic culture is totally unappealing to me, there is very little literature and Quran doesn't count I am not interested in Islam at all, too restrictive and boring a religion, girls wear hijabs so it cannot be used to pick up girls either and I don't want to speak with Muslims, knowing the statistics that two thirds of them not so secretly support sharia law, I literally don't want to have any dealings with these boring and aggressive people.

Probably Spanish and Portuguese is a good bet if not Spain and Portugal themselves then at least Latin America is not going to get overrun by Muslims in near future.

No reason to go into hyperbole for now at least. Sure - some cities and areas are diversity crapholes, but you have to remember that some 80%+ are still indigenous. With the younger generation it gets more tricky, but even there you have entire districts where only the well-off or locals are. Plenty of hot French and German girls remain you can approach. Decent PUA bootcamps in Germany are highly effective since many German girls don't experience solid approaches by men especially during daytime.

As for the rapefugees - Especially the Arab and Muslim immigrants are highly concentrated in the big cities. They hate the country life and only during the current migration crisis in Sweden and Germany are the located in the countryside - and they hate it. They will be gone as soon as possible.

The local life can be found everywhere even in France. It will take years and decades for the Western locals to be swarmed by the engineered multiculturalism:



Some countries may be able to resist the tide altogether. Already you see quite a few Western Europeans relocationg to Eastern Europe - some finding jobs there at global corporations, some doing freelance work. Then you have always the choice of moving further up financially and simply frequenting nice districts, posh parts of town while getting armed bodyguard protection. The West is getting Brazilized as we speak, though it's more the US which will resemble Brazil soon enough. The EU will be mired in daily bloodshed and suicide bombs - probably occasional civil wars before the outbreak of the big one. Essentially a day in Europe will be like on in Israel - just without the wall.

I for one will be in Japan:



Better a Barbarian in a sane country than a local in a crazy one.

(07-07-2016 07:36 AM)Parzival Wrote:  Europe is not overrun by Arabs. Its not like they are at every corner and attack people. Its certain hotspots in bigger cities that become no go areas. Even in a city like Berlin or Cologne with bad areas you still can walk there at daylight. We still don't have favela style crime here. Some districts at the edge, when you avoid them nothing to worry. I mean they are down anyway so no need to go there for strangers.

The worst part of European cities are significantly safer than any inner city ghetto in the US. Doesn't even compare. I can walk through the worst neighborhoods and chances are nothing happens to me, but I have the benefit of being tall and can look mean. I wouldn't do it in the Banlieus in France though and it's mostly because of the Africans who are less predictable. I would never walk through an American ghetto.

Let me expand, if I walked in one of those Swedish shit ghettoes generally it would be no problem, but if it was one of those Somali ghettoes then I wouldn't do it. Contrary to belief arabs are not the most dangerous, that is Somalis by far. Almost every time some girl is raped or someone is viciously beaten or stabbed to death it is a Somali. The arabs are also dangerous in packs, but they generally use violence as a means, usually to rob or intimidate, somalis on the other hand just seem to not be able to control themselves and end up killing someone.

I would like to see the Rhine and the Alps. But most of all I want to see the Brandenberg Gate, and the Bundestag in Berlin. Those are part of bucket list of places to visit. If things stabilize and maybe a more right wing anti migration party gets in power I might consider visiting Germany. I just want to see the area without getting jumped or feel like even more of a foreigner in the homeland than I might be already. If I want to see South Asian business and culture I'd go down to Surrey. I want to see authentic German people doing all that German stuff.

I had a thought recently. I think a terrorist attack during Oktoberfest would be huge and horrible and might happen. This is not based on any real evidence but it came to mind. As of yet there has not been a very high profile terrorist attack in Germany and hitting Munich during festivities could terrorize the population greatly. It would be huge. If something happens on the scale of Paris it could lead to quite a lot of horrible events.



I would have to learn a ton of game if I was to try to get with a German girl. It would be awesome. . I haven't really delved into game but I am willing to learn. I am working out much more and losing fat which will up my market value I think.



I am keen on learning more about Europe in general from people living there and have visited which is part of the reason why I have been reading this thread. I do feel like a dwarf among giants communicating with you guys. I appreciate you taking time to respond to my posts and share information with me and everyone else.

(07-07-2016 02:53 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:  

(07-07-2016 07:36 AM)Parzival Wrote:  Europe is not overrun by Arabs. Its not like they are at every corner and attack people. Its certain hotspots in bigger cities that become no go areas. Even in a city like Berlin or Cologne with bad areas you still can walk there at daylight. We still don't have favela style crime here. Some districts at the edge, when you avoid them nothing to worry. I mean they are down anyway so no need to go there for strangers.

The worst part of European cities are significantly safer than any inner city ghetto in the US. Doesn't even compare. I can walk through the worst neighborhoods and chances are nothing happens to me, but I have the benefit of being tall and can look mean. I wouldn't do it in the Banlieus in France though and it's mostly because of the Africans who are less predictable. I would never walk through an American ghetto.

Let me expand, if I walked in one of those Swedish shit ghettoes generally it would be no problem, but if it was one of those Somali ghettoes then I wouldn't do it. Contrary to belief arabs are not the most dangerous, that is Somalis by far. Almost every time some girl is raped or someone is viciously beaten or stabbed to death it is a Somali. The arabs are also dangerous in packs, but they generally use violence as a means, usually to rob or intimidate, somalis on the other hand just seem to not be able to control themselves and end up killing someone.

   

Damn - 68!! How can a person even function with that low of an IQ? It's less than half of mine last time I had it checked. And I personally feel like a bloody idiot at least once per day....

Let's call a spate a spate here: People with such a genetic heritage will NEVER be able to succeed in a modern 1st world nation, especially in an industrialized nation like Germany which is competitive as fuck. You make one mistake on your job and your colleagues will never let you forget it. The most the average Somali can expect is to drive a truck (if he manages to pass the German driving test which is tough) or perhaps trash collection, or a job as a night guard or something. But knowing the Germans they'll probably try to put people like that in positions of responsibility just to somehow prove their misguided ideology.

By bringing people like that into Western countries, in which they are destined to fail, we are neither doing them nor ourselves any favors. Long term social/racial tensions and a life in poverty are almost procedural. Which invariably will lead to criminal behavior, especially given their natural proclivities. What're seeing right now is just the tip of the iceberg. Wait until these guys and their offspring know the ropes and speak fluent German - once they get organized and established there will be hell to pay.

Parzival: You will only be able to hide out in your Bavarian paradise for so long. We are going to see two exponential growth curves in Germany: one is the death rate of the baby boomers - a lot of them are going to start dropping off year after year now. And their place will be filled by an exponential number of North African and Middle Eastern Muslims. Give it a few years and Bavaria will experience the Islamic contagion as well. At most you have five to seven years before life will be extremely unpleasant anywhere in Germany.

(07-07-2016 03:41 PM)dain_bramage Wrote:  I do feel like a dwarf among giants communicating with you guys.

How tall are you? I'm asking because I see a lot of young Germans down here in the Mediterranean during the holiday season and they are almost all over 6' tall (182cm plus). Even the girls are super tall now and I don't remember that from my childhood living in Germany. Not sure what they put in the food these days but the average height has jumped by at least one inch in the last quarter century. I'm 6' and used to be considered normal to tall when I was a young adult. In Germany I'd be small to medium these days. So if you're my height or smaller you will indeed feel like a dwarf at the Oktoberfest. Unless they get a lot of Asian visitors - and even they are taller now, especially those Koreans.

Game - don't overthink it. Just go all out and approach those girls. German men are very passive and some of them have never ever approached a girl, despite their good looks and intelligence. So by being aggressive but smooth you'll do just fine. And the Oktoberfest is a great place to hook up - plenty of alcohol serving as social lubricant.

(07-07-2016 03:41 PM)dain_bramage Wrote:  I would like to see the Rhine and the Alps. But most of all I want to see the Brandenberg Gate, and the Bundestag in Berlin. Those are part of bucket list of places to visit. If things stabilize and maybe a more right wing anti migration party gets in power I might consider visiting Germany. I just want to see the area without getting jumped or feel like even more of a foreigner in the homeland than I might be already. If I want to see South Asian business and culture I'd go down to Surrey. I want to see authentic German people doing all that German stuff.

I had a thought recently. I think a terrorist attack during Oktoberfest would be huge and horrible and might happen. This is not based on any real evidence but it came to mind. As of yet there has not been a very high profile terrorist attack in Germany and hitting Munich during festivities could terrorize the population greatly. It would be huge. If something happens on the scale of Paris it could lead to quite a lot of horrible events.

I would have to learn a ton of game if I was to try to get with a German girl. It would be awesome. . I haven't really delved into game but I am willing to learn. I am working out much more and losing fat which will up my market value I think.



I am keen on learning more about Europe in general from people living there and have visited which is part of the reason why I have been reading this thread. I do feel like a dwarf among giants communicating with you guys. I appreciate you taking time to respond to my posts and share information with me and everyone else.

man, come to Berlin. despite the bad news you read on this forum Berlin is still a great, fun, cheap, and very safe city. things may be getting worse buts its not like its "escape from new york" level anarchy, or anything remotely like that. its safer than many parts of Toronto or any major american city by far. don't let this forum and this thread scare you into hunkering down and hiding from the world.

and for the record the brandenburg gate and reichstag are nothing to write home about.

(07-07-2016 10:03 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

(07-07-2016 08:34 AM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  I would walk through a muslim dominated area than those culturally diverse ghettos and other areas in US towns and cities. We don't have that level of wasteland in our countries so when US guys here say Europe is lost I just have to laugh.

We may have occasional nuts and a cancerous religion running rampant but at least I'm not going to be murdered just for being white and in the wrong neighbourhood.

Yes you would, just like America. You don't know what you're talking about. There's already tons of footage of journalists who get beaten for going into the wrong neighborhoods.

Got a chip on your shoulder and your lack of walking through Muslim neighbourhoods Samseau.

I work in these places daily. White guy, nice car, shit hole area - Good combination? Not been beaten, harassed or targeted once. Your world view is so American its unreal.

I understand my country, the people in it and don't wall-up when interacting with them.

I couldn't do the same in some choice neighbourhoods across the US, let alone the American ghetto's. Hell I'd wager I'd be safer in African towns and cities than American ones.

(07-07-2016 04:00 PM)redpillage Wrote:  

(07-07-2016 03:41 PM)dain_bramage Wrote:  I do feel like a dwarf among giants communicating with you guys.

How tall are you? I'm asking because I see a lot of young Germans down here in the Mediterranean during the holiday season and they are almost all over 6' tall (182cm plus). Even the girls are super tall now and I don't remember that from my childhood living in Germany. Not sure what they put in the food these days but the average height has jumped by at least one inch in the last quarter century. I'm 6' and used to be considered normal to tall when I was a young adult. In Germany I'd be small to medium these days. So if you're my height or smaller you will indeed feel like a dwarf at the Oktoberfest. Unless they get a lot of Asian visitors - and even they are taller now, especially those Koreans.

Game - don't overthink it. Just go all out and approach those girls. German men are very passive and some of them have never ever approached a girl, despite their good looks and intelligence. So by being aggressive but smooth you'll do just fine. And the Oktoberfest is a great place to hook up - plenty of alcohol serving as social lubricant.

I meant a dwarf among intellectual and rep giants. I'm 6 foot 1 and about 295 pounds. I'm pretty big but not really tall at all.

Right on. I think they're might be some Oktoberfest stuff happening at the local Bavarian restaurant. That would be nice. But I'd love to go the real thing in Germany.

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Well that would be cool to come to Berlin. The cost might be a bit high for my poor ass but it would be worth it. I've only traveled on the West Coast and not by myself usually so I'd come with family. I'm going to look at the cost to fly there. It might cost me about 1000$ to get to Frankfurt, plus food, hotel, train tickets, bus tickets. I'm really bloody poor so it might take a year or two to save up for the trip. By then things could be much different. I do not know.

(07-07-2016 04:12 PM)Cosmonaut Wrote:  man, come to Berlin. despite the bad news you read on this forum Berlin is still a great, fun, cheap, and very safe city. things may be getting worse buts its not like its "escape from new york" level anarchy, or anything remotely like that. its safer than many parts of Toronto or any major american city by far. don't let this forum and this thread scare you into hunkering down and hiding from the world.

and for the record the brandenburg gate and reichstag are nothing to write home about.

I disagree, he's better off in Munich. Berlin is not a very 'German' city anymore, the 'bunten Linken' took care of that. The dude wants to experience the type of Germany he's seen in history books and the landscape around Munich and especially around the alps is something he would get a real kick out of. Plus he wants to meet real German girls, not to rub elbows with ME women wrapped in hijabs ;-)

(07-07-2016 04:48 PM)redpillage Wrote:  

(07-07-2016 04:12 PM)Cosmonaut Wrote:  man, come to Berlin. despite the bad news you read on this forum Berlin is still a great, fun, cheap, and very safe city. things may be getting worse buts its not like its "escape from new york" level anarchy, or anything remotely like that. its safer than many parts of Toronto or any major american city by far. don't let this forum and this thread scare you into hunkering down and hiding from the world.

and for the record the brandenburg gate and reichstag are nothing to write home about.

I disagree, he's better off in Munich. Berlin is not a very 'German' city anymore, the 'bunten Linken' took care of that. The dude wants to experience the type of Germany he's seen in history books and the landscape around Munich and especially around the alps is something he would get a real kick out of. Plus he wants to meet real German girls, not to rub elbows with ME women wrapped in hijabs ;-)

its always been different though. the point is, he shouldnt be AFRAID of going to Berlin. there are tons of girls not only from germany but all over europe here. Berlin is fun! But I can definitely respect and recommend going to the alps, it is beautiful.

Agreed. In the event I successfully breed with a woman I want the mother of my children to be Germanic or Polish, Russian, or Ukrainian.Basically Norse/Germanic or Slavic. Traditional in some way would be great. Hopefully someone that's not a multi coloured skrillex haircut butch woman. A woman that doesn't have several tattoos and weird giant pucks in her ear lobes. Hopefully someone that won't try to challenge me constantly.

I definitely want to bang some of the European women for obvious reasons but eventually I want to try and find the near impossible. A buddy I used to hang out with had a Mom from Switzerland that was about 50 years old but still very feminine and the old fashioned woman type. Very pleasant and very attentive. I want a decent looking woman that takes care of herself and doesn't pull the "strong independent woman" stuff.

I've seen enough Hijab wearing women around my school and general area. I would go to Europe to see the authentic European woman. Hopefully not crazy feminists who would drive me nuts or ruin my life.

When I hear a woman say she's a feminist I am completely turned off. I assume there's quite the mass of them in Europe similar to Canada or part of the USA?

The main obstacle for me to visitng Europe is the price. I have a very limited budget which makes some dreams out of reach. I did apply for a job in the field I want that's for students but I haven't received word yet. Its a job at the museum with higher than minimum wage. I have my basic needs taken care of but not a lot to go abroad which is a bummer.

I would consider going to Nuremberg as well. I'm thinking of taking a course to learn German just for kicks and to add to my program requirements. I will have to see. Skiing in the alps would be awesome. I want to visit the homelands before its all changed forever.

(07-07-2016 03:41 PM)dain_bramage Wrote:  I want to see authentic German people doing all that German stuff.

What do you mean by that? You also talk a lot about Bavaria. Bavaria is just one part of Germany. And its quite unique.
Furthermore, globalization pay it's tribute in Germany as well. Trendy hipser vegan types. Same trendy coffee shops, same style and so on. Also many people don't know traditions and don't keep them up. Today many things distract people or give them different entertainment. So no need to go to the local tradition club to socialize or have fun. Then people move from their town to study, then in another city after. Modern work live prevent that people have local boundaries and develop some local pride.
Young modern people are all the same all over the world. Your authentic Germany mostly never did exist and if so it did vanish long before the migrant invasion. Of course in certain areas you find what people consider German. Still not innocent as it seems.

(07-05-2016 07:51 AM)Mercenary Wrote:  News from Hungary

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36711693

Quote:Hungary to have October referendum on EU migrant plan

Hungary will hold a referendum on 2 October on whether to accept mandatory EU quotas for relocating migrants, President Janos Ader has said.
PM Viktor Orban's right-wing government opposes plans to relocate a total of 160,000 refugees across the bloc.
The EU announced the scheme last year in response to the migrant crisis.

Analysts say Mr Orban is emboldened by UK's vote to leave the EU, after a campaign in which immigration was a key issue.
Hungary became a transit state on the Western Balkan route to Germany and other EU destinations.
In an effort to curb the influx, it sealed its border with Serbia and Croatia and criminalised illegal entry. The measures were popular at home but criticised by human rights groups.

In a statement, President Ader said voters would be asked: "Do you want the European Union to be entitled to prescribe the mandatory settlement of non-Hungarian citizens in Hungary without the consent of parliament?"
Hungary, along with Slovakia, has already launched a court challenge against the EU plan, which would see relocations over two years.

The proposal was meant to ease pressure on Greece and Italy, the main entry points for migrants and refugees into the bloc.
But its implementation has been slow. Until mid-June, 2,280 people had been relocated from both countries, none of them to Hungary, according to EU data.

Mr Orban has previously described the quotas as "illegal and unreasonable", saying they "could redraw Europe's cultural and religious identity".
More than one million migrants and refugees arrived in the EU in 2015, mostly by sea.

Good for Hungary. They made a smart move - just like Poland and Slovakia. Hungary is on my list of countries to visit in Europe.

(07-07-2016 05:29 PM)Parzival Wrote:  

(07-07-2016 03:41 PM)dain_bramage Wrote:  I want to see authentic German people doing all that German stuff.

What do you mean by that? You also talk a lot about Bavaria. Bavaria is just one part of Germany. And its quite unique.
Furthermore, globalization pay it's tribute in Germany as well. Trendy hipser vegan types. Same trendy coffee shops, same style and so on. Also many people don't know traditions and don't keep them up. Today many things distract people or give them different entertainment. So no need to go to the local tradition club to socialize or have fun. Then people move from their town to study, then in another city after. Modern work live prevent that people have local boundaries and develop some local pride.
Young modern people are all the same all over the world. Your authentic Germany mostly never did exist and if so it did vanish long before the migrant invasion. Of course in certain areas you find what people consider German. Still not innocent as it seems.

I was aware Bavaria is just one region in Germany. There's a lot of history there from what I've heard. I would like to see Dresden, Hamburg, Wilhelmshaven, and Kiel as well. To see where Krupp Steel was would be awesome too

I'd like to go into markets, coffee houses, museums, and just immerse myself in a day in the life of Germany. That would be excellent. To observe how life goes along in Germany. I would love to sit down in a German pub and drink beer over a conversation with a German. That would be like a total awesome mind blown experience.

But the biggest reason to visit is just to see and experience the homelands of my forefathers. Its important to me to at least see the lands of the Germanic peoples, the Slavic peoples, the Celts, etc,etc. I feel drawn there but as it stands now for me its just a pipe dream.



I have a great desire to learn more about Germany and Europe in general. The history interests me.

Oh lord if its just like Portland, Oregon in Munich for example or Hamburg I'd feel like I've never left the West Coast.




Good points. But I really just want to see native Germans and talk to them and socialize. Pretty much anyone that speaks German and looks Germanic or Nordic or even Slavic. White basically. If I want to see people from Pakistan or India I would just go to some of the bigger suburbs in Canada.

I want to meet German Germans if that makes sense. That's what I mean by "authentic". I would like to see people in traditional dress at an Oktoberfest event too. I want to converse with those kind of people. I want to see the historically important areas. Maybe visit Vienna, Austria to walk in the area where the battle happened.

What kind of similarities are there between say the average person living in Vancouver and say the average person in Germany?



I hope the referendum goes well in Hungary. It would be a nice start.

(07-07-2016 04:21 PM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  

(07-07-2016 10:03 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

(07-07-2016 08:34 AM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  I would walk through a muslim dominated area than those culturally diverse ghettos and other areas in US towns and cities. We don't have that level of wasteland in our countries so when US guys here say Europe is lost I just have to laugh.

We may have occasional nuts and a cancerous religion running rampant but at least I'm not going to be murdered just for being white and in the wrong neighbourhood.

Yes you would, just like America. You don't know what you're talking about. There's already tons of footage of journalists who get beaten for going into the wrong neighborhoods.

Got a chip on your shoulder and your lack of walking through Muslim neighbourhoods Samseau.

I work in these places daily. White guy, nice car, shit hole area - Good combination? Not been beaten, harassed or targeted once. Your world view is so American its unreal.

I understand my country, the people in it and don't wall-up when interacting with them.

I couldn't do the same in some choice neighbourhoods across the US, let alone the American ghetto's. Hell I'd wager I'd be safer in African towns and cities than American ones.

Give it time.

Not much, either.