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(06-12-2016 10:58 AM)Horus Wrote:  [Image: Ckwf7tyUkAQcswH.jpg:large]

Exactly what have they given us? Off the top of my head I can only think of hummus and kebabs. And I could easily live the rest of my life without either of them. Perhaps if they are to make any meaningful contribution at all, the will convince SJWs, women and homosexuals that they are a direct threat to their existence, causing at least some of them to vote for Trump. Once they have fulfilled that role, they can get the fuck out.

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(06-12-2016 12:35 PM)Khan Wrote:  I wonder how will Richard Dawkins and the "I Fucking Love Science" atheist SJW crew respond to this, if they respond at all. If the perpetrator were Christian, they'd already be spewing hate at Christianity and religion from all sides.

Richard Dawkins is, at least, consistent. He dislikes Islam and fears its spread, viewing it as infinitely worse than Christianity (which makes sense, as every criticism he levies at Christianity goes double for Islam).

The problem is, guys like Dawkins and Sam Harris might claim Islam is the foremost threat to Western Civilisation, but when push comes to shove they would never dream of electing anyone who will deal with the problem unless they are an Approved Socialist. They won't walk the talk, because apparently the extinction of your own civilisation is a secondary concern when the only candidate willing to step up and deal with the problem is from team Red, not team Blue.

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Roosh,

Thanks very much for your tweet about gays and feminists rejoicing were you out your supporters to be gunned down. It's true, and it took a lot of guts to say that.
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(06-12-2016 07:01 AM)Dr. Howard Wrote:  Islamic terror has come to the SJW, LBGT, alphabet soup shores...what will they do about it.

Very, very good question. My head hurts as I try to compute multiple simultaneous equations of privilege.

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Any possibility this is staged?
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(06-12-2016 01:53 PM)Odin Wrote:  Any possibility this is staged?

Tinfoilhat

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Reporting that Orlando killer shouted "Allah hu Akbar!" as he slaughtered clubgoers. 2nd man arrested in LA with rifles near Gay parade.

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(06-12-2016 01:53 PM)Odin Wrote:  Any possibility this is staged?

If it was staged the killer would be a white Christian.

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1) Listen to this song... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49rhRF4bkf8
2) ... While reading through this best-of list of /pol/ names for the shooter
3) ???
4) profit

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Omar "The Rump Humper Lead Pumper" Mateen
Omar "Shoot a booty bandit cuz god command it" Mateen
Omar "Buttpirate Blaster" Mateen
Omar "Goin' in hot in the name of '''God'''" Mateen
Omar "Gas the dykes, homo war now" Mateen
Omar "Unload my nine at the sodomite line" Mateen
Omar "Rectal rangers are in danger" Mateen
Omar "Cum is Haram" Mateen
Omar "Slay the Gay" Mateen
Omar "Nightclub getting light up" Mateen
Omar "Slaying homo, renouncing Schlomo" Mateen
Omar "Akbar at the Gay Bar" Mateen
Omar "Mag in a Fag" Mateen
Omar "frags the fags" Mateen.
Omar "Scary to a fairy" Mateen
Omar "Bring an AR to the gay bar" Mateen
Omar "They ran when I read the Koran" Mateen
Omar "AR-15 is the AIDS vaccine" Mateen
Omar 'The Chocolate Chimney Sweeper Reaper' Mateen
Omar "Mag dump if they butt hump" Mateen
Omar "Astroglide means homicide" Mateen
Omar "7.62mm gloryhole" Mateen
Omar "Gay moans in Gun Free Zones" Mateen
Omar "On the brink of killing every twink" Mateen
Omar "Suck a cock, get the Glock" Mateen
Omar "full metal jacket for the faggot" Mateen
Omar "Islamic eye for the queer guy" Mateen
Omar "No vaseline" Mateen
Omar "Disturb my stool, I go Kabul" Mateen
Omar "Put every dyke on a spike" Mateen
Omar "No homos in my hummus" Mateen
Omar "The homophobe with a hunting scope" Mateen
Omar "Going nuclear on the queer" Mateen
Omar "Fudge Dredd" Mateen
Omar "Don't eat ass when I fast" Mateen
Omar "Terror raids on gay parades" Mateen
Omar "Dismember the transgender" Mateen
Omar "4chan's favourite afghan" Mateen
Omar "Bullet deposit into the closet" Mateen
Omar "Homos make me mad, Time for jihad" Mateen
Omar"if you're a poof, you're off the roof "Mateen
Omar "Born this way? Then you die today" Mateen
Omar "think Im cute?, then I have to shoot" Mateen
Omar "the penetrator, no homo" Mateen
Omar "tossing grenades at pride parades" Mateen
Omar "Putting fags into body bags" Mateen
Omar 'stay in the closet or get put in a casket' Mahteen
Omar "lick a thick dick, get bricked quick" Mateen
Omar "Koran says it's a no no so gays have got to go go" Mateen
Omar "Open gaybar? Allahu Akbar" Mateen
Omar "Make the queer disappear" Mateen
Omar "Giving Queens the M16" Mateen
Omar "The Closet Closer" Abdullah
Omar "I got something to put in you" Maleen
Omar "Empty my 9 at the gloryhole line" mateen
Omar "God Slay The Queen" Mateen
Omar "not a real Muslim" Mateen
Omar "the Lean Queen Guillotining Machine" Mateen
Omar "I blow my load on your ass" Mateen
Omar "goes commando in Orlando" Mateen
Omar "Drag Queen vs AR-15" Mateen
Omar "no Man on Man during Ramadan" Mateen
Omar "Allahu Gaybar" Mateen
Omar "bataklan for everyone" mateen
Omar "Enforcing sharia on the queer" Mateen
Omar "Want disgusting anal pain? Embrace lead Islamic rain" Mateen
Omar "No Degenerate in my Caliphate" Mateen
"Omar-15, AR-Mateen"
Omar "See a man you wanna bone? Not in my sharia zone" Mateen
Omar "The Awful Felafel" Mateen
Omar "Holy war on the dance floor" Mateen
Omar "you'll be sore in the morning" mateen
Omar “the haram kablam” Mateen
Omar "Twink Terminator" Mateen
Omar "Get rekt at the discotheque" Mateen
Omar "Don't Try to Tongue Me when I'm Hungry" Mateen
Omar "What Pulse?" Mateen
Omar "When I step in the door, fags hit the floor" Mateen
Omar "No immunity for the gay community" Mateen
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(06-12-2016 01:53 PM)Odin Wrote:  Any possibility this is staged?

Why would they do that? An Islamic extremest killing 50+ people in a gay nightclub a few months before an election is about the worst case scenario for the leftist controlled government.
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I hate hate hate hate to say this and I know it might come off as insensitive right now...but this probably helps Trump win Florida.

Either way, this should hopefully wake up progressives to understand that you can either support Islam or support LGBT - not both.

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I still don't understand why some people have a hard time grasping the fact that ISIS, is the most realistic version of Islam anyone has ever gotten to since Muhammed's time period, PERIOD!

There is no such thing as "moderate Muslims" and there never was! They are all apologist's for the ACTUAL followers of the TRUE VERSION of their religion, the so called extremists. ISIS IS ISLAM PERIOD! The so called moderates just provide shelter and cover, in order for Muslims to take non-muslims over host societies! ISIS is simply emulating Muhammed and how he spread Islam!

Let's try to look at some things that Muslims are doing, and believe in doing:

a) Muslims are the ONLY people flying planes into buildings, engaging in suicide bombings, engaging in bombings of public places in non-muslim countries, blowing up schools with children in them because they are non-Muslim, and allowing child marriage and pedophilia in their countries, committing terrorist attacks in the modern era; BECAUSE OF THEIR IDIOTIC RELIGION...
b) Muslims have by far the highest crime rates of any other group in the Western world and the highest rape crimes, other's have already posted these statistic proving this. And it's because their religion says it's "okay to rape non-believers"...
c) Muslims are the only people rioting and burning down stuff because someone drew cartoons of their fake bullshit idiotic psychopathic false prophet, since the vast majority of them are childish, un-evolved savage people...
D) Muslims are the only people that kill other people that leave their stupid idiotic barbaric backwards religion
E) Muslims are the only people that don't allow temples and monuments of other religions in their own supposed capital religious country of Saudi Arabia
F) Muslims are the only people that come to other countries and try to force everyone ELSE TO CONFORM TO THEIR RETARDED IDIOTIC WAY OF LIFE!
G) Muslims are the only people that engage in sex slavery of pre-pubescent girls and boys, as in ISIS, BECAUSE THEY ARE NON-MUSLIM AND BECAUSE THEY ARE FOLLOWING THE EXAMPLE OF MUHAMMED DOING THAT HISTORICALLY!
H) Muslim's are the only people that DO NOT ALLOW WOMEN TO DRIVE AND FORCE THEIR WOMEN TO WEAR OUTFITS AND CLOTHING, THAT DO NOT BELONG IN THIS ERA OR FOREIGN SETTINGS, BUT THEY DO SO BECAUSE THEIR IDIOT RELIGIOUS BOOKS TELL THEM TO!
I) Muslims are the only people going around the world destroying and desecrating Ancient historical artifacts and monuments of older cultures and societies; elsewhere other then Muslim countries, because it goes against their retarded "religion" and because it somehow is incompatible with their retarded religion, and because their religion does not allow true plurality of other religions alongside theirs on the same equal representative level as their retarded religion; and also because they want to wipe out other cultures and brainwash them into becoming Islamic and being servile to Islamic theocracy...
J) Muslims are the only people that are conducting wars and conflicts on non-believers and non-muslims in modern times, based on what their religious teachings tell them; since because their savage book tells them that; they have to kill and attack all non-believers and force convert everyone else to their violent religion or kill them if they don't, and they have to contribute to the establishment of a global caliphate Islamic empire
K) Muslims are the only people who engage in intentional lying and have a tradition and doctrine of lying about their religion and what it really is, so as to infiltrate and grow in numbers, while in non-muslim societies, OR TO INFILTRATE NON-MUSLIM SOCIETIES; to subvert and force convert and kill all non-believers in their host societies, based on the fact that they are non-Muslims.
L) Muslims are the only people hanging and stoning gays and other marginalized groups today
O) Muslims are the only people who believe in the only religion that encourages violence and barbaric behavior, to spread and force convert everyone else to their religion; because according to Islam other religions are inferior and incompatible to Islam and have to be subdued.
P) Muslims are the only people that believe in illogical scientific concepts, such as the fact that shooting stars are actually demons and all other sorts of idiotic shit!


etc etc etc etc.

Is it really hard to see, why Islam is such an idiotic and retarded ass backwards ass religion, that's actually the product of a demonically possessed psychopathic lying abhorrent moron like Muhammed now with the above facts? Probably not!

And the vast majority of modern technological and scientific PROGRESS AND RESEARCH DO NOT COME FROM MUSLIM COUNTRIES TODAY OR MUSLIM INSTITUTIONS! Muslim countries never make it to the top countries in HDI or living standards or economic output! Even small NON-Muslim countries like Japan out-produce ALL, ALL of the Islamic countries combined EXCEPT THE ONES WITH STUFF LIKE OIL OR THE ONES THAT DON'T ACTUALLY FOLLOW ISLAM LITERALLY!

And there are a billion people following Islam today? Jesus that is scary......
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(06-12-2016 02:10 PM)eskimobobseal Wrote:  I hate hate hate hate to say this and I know it might come off as insensitive right now...but this probably helps Trump win Florida.

Either way, this should hopefully wake up progressives to understand that you can either support Islam or support LGBT - not both.
Trump was going to win Florida anyway, he was leading in the latest poll there.
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(06-12-2016 09:52 AM)_GQ_ Wrote:  
(06-12-2016 09:43 AM)H1N1 Wrote:  Generally these guys are bums and losers rather than hardened jihadis. If you look into the guys who have been carrying out these attacks across Europe and the US, you'll see that they have typically taken a very relaxed approach to their religion. Many of them have been gang members, smoked a lot of dope, been out clubbing and drinking, etc etc. I would not be surprised if it turned out that this guy, far from being a religious zealot for much of his adult life, had actually lead the kind of life his religion would condemn. I suspect any hardening of his religious convictions is a recent thing.

That's not to say Islam isn't a problem. However, the nature of the problem may not be as straightforward as we are making it. It is shocking how unIslamic the lives of most of these terrorists have been.
Excellent post.

There's something much deeper going on here. Too much deviance from the norm among humans in all aspects of our interactions with nature, we're now bearing the repercussions.

Yes there is and it is this: In Judaism, there is remission of sin through the shedding of the blood of bulls, rams, goats and lambs (Old Testament). In Christianity, there is remission of sin through the shedding of Christ's (the lamb of God) blood (New Testament).

If the read the Koran and study Islam, it's basically just and offshoot cult of Judaism (Islam believes in the Torah, first 5 books of the Bible, the Psalms, Jesus as a Prophet), EXCEPT IN ISLAM THERE IS NO SHEDDING OF BLOOD FOR SIN, and they know this. So when a jihadi commits these acts and thus goes to his own death, he thinks that by shedding his own blood, he is offering himself to God as an act of sacrifice of his sin.
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(06-12-2016 02:10 PM)eskimobobseal Wrote:  I hate hate hate hate to say this and I know it might come off as insensitive right now...but this probably helps Trump win Florida.

Either way, this should hopefully wake up progressives to understand that you can either support Islam or support LGBT - not both.


Don't feel bad.

50 people dying in exchange for the much higher probability of Florida going red and Trump winning the election sounds like a win to me. Especially considering the alternative.
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Shared on FB via Twitter. From Phoenix:

EDITED. Wasn't a legit tweet.


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Wow, George Is King.

Thanks for posting that.
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(06-12-2016 02:22 PM)George is King Wrote:  Shared on FB via Twitter. From Phoenix:
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Fake.

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(06-12-2016 02:22 PM)George is King Wrote:  Shared on FB via Twitter. From Phoenix:
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Holy shit is this real?

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Edit: should have known better, cant expect much from them but I have to think some gays are waking up.
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(06-12-2016 02:06 PM)Requiem Wrote:  Omar "The Rump Humper Lead Pumper" Mateen
Omar "Shoot a booty bandit cuz god command it" Mateen
Omar "Buttpirate Blaster" Mateen
Omar "Goin' in hot in the name of '''God'''" Mateen
Omar "Gas the dykes, homo war now" Mateen
Omar "Unload my nine at the sodomite line" Mateen
Omar "Rectal rangers are in danger" Mateen
Omar "Cum is Haram" Mateen
Omar "Slay the Gay" Mateen
Omar "Nightclub getting light up" Mateen
Omar "Slaying homo, renouncing Schlomo" Mateen
Omar "Akbar at the Gay Bar" Mateen
Omar "Mag in a Fag" Mateen
Omar "frags the fags" Mateen.
Omar "Scary to a fairy" Mateen
Omar "Bring an AR to the gay bar" Mateen
Omar "They ran when I read the Koran" Mateen
Omar "AR-15 is the AIDS vaccine" Mateen
Omar 'The Chocolate Chimney Sweeper Reaper' Mateen
Omar "Mag dump if they butt hump" Mateen
Omar "Astroglide means homicide" Mateen
Omar "7.62mm gloryhole" Mateen
Omar "Gay moans in Gun Free Zones" Mateen
Omar "On the brink of killing every twink" Mateen
Omar "Suck a cock, get the Glock" Mateen
Omar "full metal jacket for the faggot" Mateen
Omar "Islamic eye for the queer guy" Mateen
Omar "No vaseline" Mateen
Omar "Disturb my stool, I go Kabul" Mateen
Omar "Put every dyke on a spike" Mateen
Omar "No homos in my hummus" Mateen
Omar "The homophobe with a hunting scope" Mateen
Omar "Going nuclear on the queer" Mateen
Omar "Fudge Dredd" Mateen
Omar "Don't eat ass when I fast" Mateen
Omar "Terror raids on gay parades" Mateen
Omar "Dismember the transgender" Mateen
Omar "4chan's favourite afghan" Mateen
Omar "Bullet deposit into the closet" Mateen
Omar "Homos make me mad, Time for jihad" Mateen
Omar"if you're a poof, you're off the roof "Mateen
Omar "Born this way? Then you die today" Mateen
Omar "think Im cute?, then I have to shoot" Mateen
Omar "the penetrator, no homo" Mateen
Omar "tossing grenades at pride parades" Mateen
Omar "Putting fags into body bags" Mateen
Omar 'stay in the closet or get put in a casket' Mahteen
Omar "lick a thick dick, get bricked quick" Mateen
Omar "Koran says it's a no no so gays have got to go go" Mateen
Omar "Open gaybar? Allahu Akbar" Mateen
Omar "Make the queer disappear" Mateen
Omar "Giving Queens the M16" Mateen
Omar "The Closet Closer" Abdullah
Omar "I got something to put in you" Maleen
Omar "Empty my 9 at the gloryhole line" mateen
Omar "God Slay The Queen" Mateen
Omar "not a real Muslim" Mateen
Omar "the Lean Queen Guillotining Machine" Mateen
Omar "I blow my load on your ass" Mateen
Omar "goes commando in Orlando" Mateen
Omar "Drag Queen vs AR-15" Mateen
Omar "no Man on Man during Ramadan" Mateen
Omar "Allahu Gaybar" Mateen
Omar "bataklan for everyone" mateen
Omar "Enforcing sharia on the queer" Mateen
Omar "Want disgusting anal pain? Embrace lead Islamic rain" Mateen
Omar "No Degenerate in my Caliphate" Mateen
"Omar-15, AR-Mateen"
Omar "See a man you wanna bone? Not in my sharia zone" Mateen
Omar "The Awful Felafel" Mateen
Omar "Holy war on the dance floor" Mateen
Omar "you'll be sore in the morning" mateen
Omar “the haram kablam” Mateen
Omar "Twink Terminator" Mateen
Omar "Get rekt at the discotheque" Mateen
Omar "Don't Try to Tongue Me when I'm Hungry" Mateen
Omar "What Pulse?" Mateen
Omar "When I step in the door, fags hit the floor" Mateen
Omar "No immunity for the gay community" Mateen

Holy shit that is sheer genius! They came up with that in a matter of hours!
06-12-2016 02:26 PM
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RE: Florida Pulse gay nightclub attack in Orlando, 50+ dead
(06-12-2016 02:25 PM)aeroektar Wrote:  
(06-12-2016 02:22 PM)George is King Wrote:  Shared on FB via Twitter. From Phoenix:
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Holy shit is this real?

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Not real. Don't post it, they'll just point out it's fake and score points.

same old shit, sixes and sevens Shaft...
06-12-2016 02:27 PM
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RE: Florida Pulse gay nightclub attack in Orlando, 50+ dead
Ah, my two favorite demographics at it again!
06-12-2016 02:30 PM
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Fake^

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RE: Florida Pulse gay nightclub attack in Orlando, 50+ dead
If anyone wants to know what I mean when I say "Year Zero" just read this Guardian editorial. No comment required.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree...-editorial

Quote:The Guardian view on the Orlando shootings: a time for calm, and sorrow

The first reaction to the dreadful crime in Florida – the worst mass shooting in US history – must be one of sympathy and solidarity for the victims and those who loved them, and for the city of Orlando. It is dreadful that people who had come out for an evening of joyful dancing, and of celebration of their freedom to love whom they will, should have their lives ended or shattered in gunfire. This is true, and overwhelmingly important, whatever the motives of the gunman turn out to be when they have been thoroughly investigated. Whether or to what extent it is an act of organised terrorism remains to be discovered. We do not know whether the victims were murdered for being American, or gay, or for both reasons: Isis, after all, has a record of monstrous crimes and cruelties against gay people.

This ignorance will not stop anyone from leaping to conclusions. But while the police and the FBI go about their work of unpicking the background to the atrocity, responsible politicians need to show calm and resolution. The damage done to the victims and their families is dreadful enough. It is one of the tasks of leadership to minimise the damage that the attacks can do to wider society. This is a task which – predictably – Donald Trump is failing. “When will we get tough, smart, and vigilant?” he tweeted to his followers: but there is no evidence that anyone in Orlando was anything less than tough, smart, or vigilant as the attack unfolded.

The awful truth is that American society is vulnerable to these attacks in a way that others are not because of its belief that freedom requires easy, widespread access to lethal weapons. While it is true that guns don’t kill people, as the slogan has it, people with guns do kill people, and they do so much more quickly and effectively than people without guns can manage.

There have been 43 mass shootings in the US in the past 10 years, those in which more than four people were killed in a public space. Very few of them had recognisable ideological causes. Some occurred in states, such as Florida, where it is legal for almost anyone who applies for a licence to walk around with concealed, lethal weapons – something which does not in practice save anyone’s life if bullets start flying, but which is felt as a reassurance until they do.

The problem here is that the US, a country that valorises freedom above almost everything else, is damaging its real freedoms in pursuit of illusory ones. The freedom that was enjoyed – in both senses of the word – by the dancers at the Pulse nightclub is upheld by tolerance as well as by firm and unbiased enforcement of the laws. It is a general freedom for every kind of American: LGBT as well as straight, Muslim, atheist and Christian. This is what serves as a real beacon to the rest of the world. But this kind of freedom is also what the attack, and the possible reactions to it, must tend to damage.

Whatever the motives of the attacker turn out to be, no gay person in the US can feel as secure today as they did on Saturday – a rejection compounded by the refusal of the authorities to accept blood donations from sexually active gay men. This is an additional tragedy on top of the deaths. The country must not compound it by lurching from fear into fantasies of omnipotence, in which everything gets better if only the strong man lashes out at his enemies. That would damage exactly the freedoms it purports to defend.

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