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xxMarco · 2016-06-01 21:09:00 · #7826
Been in a funk the last 2 months due to a rocky mini relationship and eventually a break up that I initiated.
Girl I was dating was a 7, with her caked up make up she's about an 8 but she had a bad attitude. Recently found out she's already dating a new guy and has a new bottle service job. I was moping around all weekend dragging my ass around the clubs like a straight chump. No approaches just excuses and thinking what went wrong....
A hot 21 year old opened me at the club and we chatted up, even though I wasn't feeling it my game went on autopilot, venue change, touching, dancing, flirting, number but no bang. Went home, the next day and I said what the fuck is wrong with me. Sent out a text blast to chicks I haven't talked to in a while and got all positive responses about where I been and blah blah.
Anyway what i'm saying is sometimes a players vision gets fogged up and you get caught up with a chick. You want to hang up the gloves and just relax for the rest of your life. You forget why you even got in the game in the first place and why you been running through girls. You think about settling down and possibly having kids, a home, the life your married friends and family have.
You can't. You can't just stale out and relax. There is no hanging up the gloves. The reason I got in the game was because bitches come and go time and time again. I'm not sure why I ever forgot that. Sure there might be a girl out there that is perfect to settle with but the odds are slim. Even if you do settle and she leaves you, you're in for a world of hurt. Fuck that, thats not where I want to be again.
Just needed to vent and write this down somewhere.
Girl I was dating was a 7, with her caked up make up she's about an 8 but she had a bad attitude. Recently found out she's already dating a new guy and has a new bottle service job. I was moping around all weekend dragging my ass around the clubs like a straight chump. No approaches just excuses and thinking what went wrong....
A hot 21 year old opened me at the club and we chatted up, even though I wasn't feeling it my game went on autopilot, venue change, touching, dancing, flirting, number but no bang. Went home, the next day and I said what the fuck is wrong with me. Sent out a text blast to chicks I haven't talked to in a while and got all positive responses about where I been and blah blah.
Anyway what i'm saying is sometimes a players vision gets fogged up and you get caught up with a chick. You want to hang up the gloves and just relax for the rest of your life. You forget why you even got in the game in the first place and why you been running through girls. You think about settling down and possibly having kids, a home, the life your married friends and family have.
You can't. You can't just stale out and relax. There is no hanging up the gloves. The reason I got in the game was because bitches come and go time and time again. I'm not sure why I ever forgot that. Sure there might be a girl out there that is perfect to settle with but the odds are slim. Even if you do settle and she leaves you, you're in for a world of hurt. Fuck that, thats not where I want to be again.
Just needed to vent and write this down somewhere.
PUFF_THE_MAGIC_DRAGON · 2016-06-02 00:13:00 · #7827
I had a great date off of Tinder. Plenty of flirting, groping, and kissing. Location shift. Then I pulled the "let me use your bathroom" move but the chick literally power walked on out of the apartment before I could escalate further as I got out of her bathroom.
R.I.P.
R.I.P.
Comte De St. Germain · 2016-06-02 00:19:00 · #7828
(06-02-2016 12:13 AM)PUFF_THE_MAGIC_DRAGON Wrote: I had a great date off of Tinder. Plenty of flirting, groping, and kissing. Location shift. Then I pulled the "let me use your bathroom" move but the chick literally power walked on out of the apartment before I could escalate further as I got out of her bathroom.
R.I.P.
Details mate details
How was the date? Where did she go? Did she really leave you alone in her apartment?
PUFF_THE_MAGIC_DRAGON · 2016-06-02 00:36:00 · #7829
(06-02-2016 12:19 AM)Comte De St. Germain Wrote:(06-02-2016 12:13 AM)PUFF_THE_MAGIC_DRAGON Wrote: I had a great date off of Tinder. Plenty of flirting, groping, and kissing. Location shift. Then I pulled the "let me use your bathroom" move but the chick literally power walked on out of the apartment before I could escalate further as I got out of her bathroom.
R.I.P.
Details mate details
How was the date? Where did she go? Did she really leave you alone in her apartment?
PM'd
storm · 2016-06-02 03:03:00 · #7830
(06-01-2016 09:16 AM)WestIndianArchie Wrote: If you can hide your disgust at her flab, in this particular situation - you get on her about flaking, and that she really doesn't like you.
She'll qualify herself to you verbally, but that's not good enough.
Deeds not words.
Great point. I will do more pushing. From what you wrote I have come up with some ideas for how to push like this. I have a date coming up tomorrow with a russian girl (when it rains it pours!) that I will try them with. Will let you know how this worked.
Quote:Patrice talks about this somewhat. A certain kind of woman can appeal to your masculine energy - and motivate you to do things - as opposed to manipulate you.
So you're in the position where you have to teach her the womanly arts of how to get you to act right, even though she's not attractive....
Tough work, but doable.
WIA
Patrice O Neil? Will check out.
LouEvilSlugger · 2016-06-02 16:11:00 · #7831
Girl: My boyfriend is on tour.
Me: What band does he play in?
Girl: He's doing merch.
Me: What band does he play in?
Girl: He's doing merch.
General Stalin · 2016-06-02 16:46:00 · #7832
(06-01-2016 12:53 PM)JWLZG Wrote: Do some girls absolutely not put out regardless of how airtight your game is?
Not all girls will be attracted to you.
Game is not a magic wand that makes all women want to have sex with you. Game is just a way to maximize your results with women who will have sex with you.
kaotic · 2016-06-03 14:30:00 · #7833
Back from the dead. I needed a break from life, work, the forum, everything.
Been on a bender since last Thursday, finally back to normal.
Was in Vegas for a music festival, club shows, and meeting up with old punk/rock n roll friends.
Talk about a boozed up, coked out, mosh pitting, pedialyte drinking, pool partying rage.
Didn't sleep much, only passed out once, felt 100% after hitting the gym as soon as I got home from Vegas. I reeked of booze and ciggs (I don't even smoke).
I needed that partying, I missed out on 2 other festivals I traditionally go to annually.
My friends were rad, wasn't any drama, some mother fuckers got some crazy ass tattoos, one even got his face done.
As far as girl - 2 of them, unfortunately no bang.
Girl 1 approached me, Italian/Black girl, she started stroking my chest hair (had my shirt off at the show) I can tell she's wasted, super needy and demanding, I convinced her to come with me to a handicap porta potty, I started choking and pulling her hair, whip out my dick, pull her shorts down.....all the while her chubby friend with tits was doing blow in there.
LOTS of LMR and she pussed out, we ended up doing some more blow and headed back to the stage area. A friends friend walked up to me, "hey are you single ish ?" I said "Of course I am" She introduced me to this tan thick girl with fat tits from Atlanta, who was her sister aka Girl 2 - at this point I'm fucked up and on Autopilot. We chat for a bit, I never got her digits, but she was into me.
I ended up going back to the Girl 1's hotel room, her fat friend tagged along, and pulled some random dude from the crowd.
We did some more blow and started getting down in the beds, the dude was a good wingman.
What do you know......coke dick. I could-not-fucking-function.
Girl 1 wasn't tripping and we almost fell off the bed a few times, the dude was going to fuckin town on the fat girls pussy in the bed over - my girl kept looking over.
I got up and got dressed and had a few laughs - I told that dude "have at Girl 1, I'm done dude" and he goes to town on her and was biting her pussy up, all the while I'm laughing.
I made excuse that I was gonna buy more blow and I bounced ASAP. I never saw her again.
Once I got back from Vegas I gymed, then hopped into a limo to a comedy club, got fucked up, did some more blow, and had a pretty good time. Sucks because I didn't have time to invite a bitch to roll with me that would be cool with partying like that.
There was a 2 day period where I was definitely bummed out, wanting to get laid fast, thought about my ex, shit like that.
I rode my Harley, and did some garage work to get my mind off of it. I feel alot better.
Last night I went on a date with an Indian girl, photo was 7, in real life 6, with a questionable body. Masters in biochem the standard Indian tradition blah blah.
She was sarcastic and white washed liked me, had 2 drinks at venue 1, I paid, chatted, she was cool overall, but definitely sheltered. Said what's up to the bar owner and a friend then bounced. She offers to drive with me.
Venue 2 she paid for 3 rounds, we chatted more, she was kinoing me, getting super close, hand on leg. I'm just being my sarcastic asshole self.
We bounce to my pad, she says she "can only stay for a bit then has to leave"
Throw on a movie, and then show her my rifle, she excitedly freaks out, and holds it and I show her the mags and bullets.
15 minutes later I'm pulling out her tits and finger blasting hard. She hardly touches my dick, I finally whip it out and she strokes it a bit.
She isn't doing shit and I notice a funk, at first I was thinking it's her pussy, I do the classic smell test. It's not it.
It's her fucking armpits, what is it with my race and bad hygiene, jesus christ.
After 10 minutes I drive her back to her car. Looking back at this sober, I should've just ended it after 1 drink, even if she didn't have Princess Jasmine syndrome.
It's good to be back on the forum, I got a date lined up with this tiny fake titted cute blondie milf tonight, I've always seen her around, she single now and so am I. She's always thought I was funny and she seems down. Hopefully it'll be rad.
Been on a bender since last Thursday, finally back to normal.
Was in Vegas for a music festival, club shows, and meeting up with old punk/rock n roll friends.
Talk about a boozed up, coked out, mosh pitting, pedialyte drinking, pool partying rage.
Didn't sleep much, only passed out once, felt 100% after hitting the gym as soon as I got home from Vegas. I reeked of booze and ciggs (I don't even smoke).
I needed that partying, I missed out on 2 other festivals I traditionally go to annually.
My friends were rad, wasn't any drama, some mother fuckers got some crazy ass tattoos, one even got his face done.
As far as girl - 2 of them, unfortunately no bang.
Girl 1 approached me, Italian/Black girl, she started stroking my chest hair (had my shirt off at the show) I can tell she's wasted, super needy and demanding, I convinced her to come with me to a handicap porta potty, I started choking and pulling her hair, whip out my dick, pull her shorts down.....all the while her chubby friend with tits was doing blow in there.
LOTS of LMR and she pussed out, we ended up doing some more blow and headed back to the stage area. A friends friend walked up to me, "hey are you single ish ?" I said "Of course I am" She introduced me to this tan thick girl with fat tits from Atlanta, who was her sister aka Girl 2 - at this point I'm fucked up and on Autopilot. We chat for a bit, I never got her digits, but she was into me.
I ended up going back to the Girl 1's hotel room, her fat friend tagged along, and pulled some random dude from the crowd.
We did some more blow and started getting down in the beds, the dude was a good wingman.
What do you know......coke dick. I could-not-fucking-function.
Girl 1 wasn't tripping and we almost fell off the bed a few times, the dude was going to fuckin town on the fat girls pussy in the bed over - my girl kept looking over.
I got up and got dressed and had a few laughs - I told that dude "have at Girl 1, I'm done dude" and he goes to town on her and was biting her pussy up, all the while I'm laughing.
I made excuse that I was gonna buy more blow and I bounced ASAP. I never saw her again.
Once I got back from Vegas I gymed, then hopped into a limo to a comedy club, got fucked up, did some more blow, and had a pretty good time. Sucks because I didn't have time to invite a bitch to roll with me that would be cool with partying like that.
There was a 2 day period where I was definitely bummed out, wanting to get laid fast, thought about my ex, shit like that.
I rode my Harley, and did some garage work to get my mind off of it. I feel alot better.
Last night I went on a date with an Indian girl, photo was 7, in real life 6, with a questionable body. Masters in biochem the standard Indian tradition blah blah.
She was sarcastic and white washed liked me, had 2 drinks at venue 1, I paid, chatted, she was cool overall, but definitely sheltered. Said what's up to the bar owner and a friend then bounced. She offers to drive with me.
Venue 2 she paid for 3 rounds, we chatted more, she was kinoing me, getting super close, hand on leg. I'm just being my sarcastic asshole self.
We bounce to my pad, she says she "can only stay for a bit then has to leave"
Throw on a movie, and then show her my rifle, she excitedly freaks out, and holds it and I show her the mags and bullets.
15 minutes later I'm pulling out her tits and finger blasting hard. She hardly touches my dick, I finally whip it out and she strokes it a bit.
She isn't doing shit and I notice a funk, at first I was thinking it's her pussy, I do the classic smell test. It's not it.
It's her fucking armpits, what is it with my race and bad hygiene, jesus christ.
After 10 minutes I drive her back to her car. Looking back at this sober, I should've just ended it after 1 drink, even if she didn't have Princess Jasmine syndrome.
It's good to be back on the forum, I got a date lined up with this tiny fake titted cute blondie milf tonight, I've always seen her around, she single now and so am I. She's always thought I was funny and she seems down. Hopefully it'll be rad.
General Stalin · 2016-06-03 15:06:00 · #7834
Man I read a lot of stories of substance-related-game-fuckups. I'm not a substance user besides drinking when I go out, and even then I don't get retarded, so I can't really speak on getting plastered or coked out of mind. Is it worth it?
Anyway, speaking of going out. Went out to a night club with RvF members Rockhard and storm last weekend. Storm was in town on business and wanted to have a good time so I took him out. We drank, danced, wound up in a lot of broads' snapchat stories, and had a great time. End of the night some skinny blond girl approached me and started chatting me up. Got her number, made out, and went back to my comrades for last call.
Went out with the girl last night. Hit up a whiskey bar here in town, and a nice high-rise lounge then bounce her back to my place. Fuck her twice in my recording studio, then again the next morning before I dropped her off at the city bus stop.
Cute girl, but definitely the skinniest thing I've been with. I'm talking runway model skin and bones. No tits but a nice tight squeezable little ass with long straw blond hair. I like skinny girls, and this one wasn't so skinny it was a turnoff, but I imagine a lot of dudes here might put her in the WNB category for looking anorexic. WBA and would like to turn her into a regular. She was sweet and fun to be around. Gave me a real nice back and hand massage unsolicited, and generally very courteous, though she had no qualms about having me pay for all of our drinks at both venues - but she earned her keep.
I think that puts me at about 9 or 10 notches since I moved to Denver 8 months ago. The game has been decent for me.
I've changed up how I approach the game several months ago and it has done wonders for my mental state. I enjoy women much more, and cavalierly just dismiss the ones who aren't enjoyable. I don't even care so much if I get a bang or not - just having a good time with happy fun girls is a delight in and of itself. It's like spending time with children. They make things so fun and allow you to loosen up and be more carefree and imaginative. Showing them cool new things and visa versa. Good stuff.
I wrote a while back about how I never could just appreciate women in the moment. If I was spending time with a delightful woman I would always be thinking about how I hope we can have such an experience again and I'd be chasing a sort of "relationship" ideal where I was more interested in the future of this girl an I instead of just enjoying and living in the here and now. I've bucked that mindset and now can simply appreciate women in single-serving fashion.
This girl I hooked up with last night - I don't need to see her again. I would like to, and it would be nice, but if I never do that is perfectly fine. We had a great time yesterday and I can leave it at that.
Anyway, speaking of going out. Went out to a night club with RvF members Rockhard and storm last weekend. Storm was in town on business and wanted to have a good time so I took him out. We drank, danced, wound up in a lot of broads' snapchat stories, and had a great time. End of the night some skinny blond girl approached me and started chatting me up. Got her number, made out, and went back to my comrades for last call.
Went out with the girl last night. Hit up a whiskey bar here in town, and a nice high-rise lounge then bounce her back to my place. Fuck her twice in my recording studio, then again the next morning before I dropped her off at the city bus stop.
Cute girl, but definitely the skinniest thing I've been with. I'm talking runway model skin and bones. No tits but a nice tight squeezable little ass with long straw blond hair. I like skinny girls, and this one wasn't so skinny it was a turnoff, but I imagine a lot of dudes here might put her in the WNB category for looking anorexic. WBA and would like to turn her into a regular. She was sweet and fun to be around. Gave me a real nice back and hand massage unsolicited, and generally very courteous, though she had no qualms about having me pay for all of our drinks at both venues - but she earned her keep.
I think that puts me at about 9 or 10 notches since I moved to Denver 8 months ago. The game has been decent for me.
I've changed up how I approach the game several months ago and it has done wonders for my mental state. I enjoy women much more, and cavalierly just dismiss the ones who aren't enjoyable. I don't even care so much if I get a bang or not - just having a good time with happy fun girls is a delight in and of itself. It's like spending time with children. They make things so fun and allow you to loosen up and be more carefree and imaginative. Showing them cool new things and visa versa. Good stuff.
I wrote a while back about how I never could just appreciate women in the moment. If I was spending time with a delightful woman I would always be thinking about how I hope we can have such an experience again and I'd be chasing a sort of "relationship" ideal where I was more interested in the future of this girl an I instead of just enjoying and living in the here and now. I've bucked that mindset and now can simply appreciate women in single-serving fashion.
This girl I hooked up with last night - I don't need to see her again. I would like to, and it would be nice, but if I never do that is perfectly fine. We had a great time yesterday and I can leave it at that.
kaotic · 2016-06-03 15:15:00 · #7835
(06-03-2016 03:06 PM)General Stalin Wrote: Man I read a lot of stories of substance-related-game-fuckups. I'm not a substance user besides drinking when I go out, and even then I don't get retarded, so I can't really speak on getting plastered or coked out of mind. Is it worth it?
I'm not usually a substance user, but I was on vacation, friends and music were first, girls were a distant second. Of course I won't turn down any advances, but the story was fucking hilarious in my eyes.
Coke Dick saved me from some random Vegas local ratchet who didn't even talk about condoms. I could tell she had a kid also. Thinking about it sober I glad I didn't bang her.
I just wanted to be wild and out and I don't regret a single thing I did this trip, obviously I'm not doing this stuff on the regular every weekend.
I'm glad you're doing better and enjoying just being around women and not worried about the outcome, your posts are showing alot of improvement man.
WestIndianArchie · 2016-06-03 15:28:00 · #7836
(06-02-2016 04:46 PM)General Stalin Wrote:(06-01-2016 12:53 PM)JWLZG Wrote: Do some girls absolutely not put out regardless of how airtight your game is?
Not all girls will be attracted to you.
Game is not a magic wand that makes all women want to have sex with you. Game is just a way to maximize your results with women who will have sex with you.
Powerful update GS.
Real rap, regular guys undersell themselves.
They don't try hard enough to talk to women. They don't go out, they don't put themselves in places where chicks are.
No Jedi mind tricks, just raw approaching would increase s regular guy's numbers.
And if he decided to make himself look good after he got over his approach fears..
Before game, I could name every girl I'd ever talked to from grade school on up. I was so afraid.
All of my friends, my peers were the same. Some of them probably could still do it. In the workforce, only chicks they come into regular contact with is the cleaning staff.
...
I think guys get faulty information about how attractive they actually are. If they were serious about trying to meet women they'd feel like players.
It's a handful of bad experiences in middle school and high school during puberty that controls men their entire lives. At least in America, where social hierarchy gets established in kindergarten. The more school bound, usually the worse guys have it.
The guy thinks that only 1 girl in 1,000 would like him. But in his life he's only talked to 12, only chatted up 1 or 2.
Real effort would get him better results.
Taking care of his outer looks after he fixed his approach anxiety would convince him that he's Hugh Hefner.
Game would blow his mind.
WIA
WestIndianArchie · 2016-06-03 15:40:00 · #7837
So this chick at the job says
My boyfriend told me to never cut my hair
He asks me why I never wear it down
I'm not going to cut it now, But I think I'll cut it when I get married.
(I not we)
Gentlemen, this is what you're dealing with.
Educated, comes from an upper middle class family. Religious. Small town.
She's short and he's like 6'5". She would pass every one of your stupid unicorn criteria.
But this is who she truly is.
I always trust a woman to be a woman.
WIA
My boyfriend told me to never cut my hair
He asks me why I never wear it down
I'm not going to cut it now, But I think I'll cut it when I get married.
(I not we)
Gentlemen, this is what you're dealing with.
Educated, comes from an upper middle class family. Religious. Small town.
She's short and he's like 6'5". She would pass every one of your stupid unicorn criteria.
But this is who she truly is.
I always trust a woman to be a woman.
WIA
toejam · 2016-06-03 15:41:00 · #7838
Got this chick I'm banging to agree to a threesome. I told her we should get a dildo and tag team one of her cute friends but she says her friends are not as crazy as she is. Damn.
Anyone have luck going to a club/lounge and picking up chick's for a wild night threesome? She's eager to go out and do something wild I'm just not sure how to play this out. I'm really just stuck on this.
Anyone know any spots in the city? I'm in jersey/NY
Anyone have luck going to a club/lounge and picking up chick's for a wild night threesome? She's eager to go out and do something wild I'm just not sure how to play this out. I'm really just stuck on this.
Anyone know any spots in the city? I'm in jersey/NY
DonnyGately · 2016-06-03 16:08:00 · #7839
(06-03-2016 03:06 PM)General Stalin Wrote: I've changed up how I approach the game several months ago and it has done wonders for my mental state. I enjoy women much more, and cavalierly just dismiss the ones who aren't enjoyable. I don't even care so much if I get a bang or not - just having a good time with happy fun girls is a delight in and of itself. It's like spending time with children. They make things so fun and allow you to loosen up and be more carefree and imaginative. Showing them cool new things and visa versa. Good stuff.
... was more interested in the future of this girl an I instead of just enjoying and living in the here and now. I've bucked that mindset and now can simply appreciate women in single-serving fashion.
This girl I hooked up with last night - I don't need to see her again. I would like to, and it would be nice, but if I never do that is perfectly fine. We had a great time yesterday and I can leave it at that.
I've gotten way better at this also this year and it is working wonders for my Game. I've met 5 girls the past few weeks in their very early 20s and they've all been attracted to me, we enjoy a night out and some have ended in bangs, some not yet. I'd like to see 4/5 again, but if a couple of the girls aren't down that's fine also. Doesn't matter if they were great in bed or we just kissed and fondled at a nightclub. But one of those girls oh-so-casually mentioned she's had a 3-some with her bff while I was walking her out to a taxi.
I think the girls can smell the cavalier attitude and success I've had recently. It's working wonders. I just drop a short text the next day and they are always texting back now and ask if they can see me next week.
WestIndianArchie · 2016-06-03 16:23:00 · #7840
Funny how a change in your inner game can have so much effect on your outer game and results.
Makes me wonder about the doom and gloom gurus out there.
WIA
Makes me wonder about the doom and gloom gurus out there.
WIA
Euphoric_Breeze · 2016-06-03 16:50:00 · #7841
The interesting part is that chicks can feel it when your inner game is consistent . This shit is crazy . No wonder why many PUAs emphasize on positive affirmations and setting frame .
One of our top accounts customer came in today to check some progress on the clearance on one of her shipments with a female colleague .
I walked in with such high energy where I could feel that my parts were heavy. I slowed down my pace and ignored the client who was a perfect 7.5
I was feeling very comfortable with myself ,adressing some other clerks with a strong tone and eye contact . I had one other colleague who asked me for an advice to which I explicitly answered using strong vocabulary . By that time from the corner of my eye , I noticed her giving glimpses every now and then and playing with her hair . 5 mins later , she sits nearby my office and offers me some licorice candy who claims to be a good quality .We engage in a smooth conversation involving interesting eye contact and sexy stares. At one point , the cockblock female colleague had to call her to show her something and she left saying "Pleasure to meet you" .
I'm sure she was into me and I'm glad at the same time receiving IOIs from 7+ chicks these days . My alpha mindset these days is neutralizing the betattitude deeply rooted in my DNA .My physique is getting better also .
I feel ready for what's coming next.
One of our top accounts customer came in today to check some progress on the clearance on one of her shipments with a female colleague .
I walked in with such high energy where I could feel that my parts were heavy. I slowed down my pace and ignored the client who was a perfect 7.5
I was feeling very comfortable with myself ,adressing some other clerks with a strong tone and eye contact . I had one other colleague who asked me for an advice to which I explicitly answered using strong vocabulary . By that time from the corner of my eye , I noticed her giving glimpses every now and then and playing with her hair . 5 mins later , she sits nearby my office and offers me some licorice candy who claims to be a good quality .We engage in a smooth conversation involving interesting eye contact and sexy stares. At one point , the cockblock female colleague had to call her to show her something and she left saying "Pleasure to meet you" .
I'm sure she was into me and I'm glad at the same time receiving IOIs from 7+ chicks these days . My alpha mindset these days is neutralizing the betattitude deeply rooted in my DNA .My physique is getting better also .
I feel ready for what's coming next.
kaotic · 2016-06-03 17:12:00 · #7842
The above just clicked for me.
When I was on my trip, I wore cut off band t shirts showing off my arms.
At the pool, I was topless, rocking my chest hair and owning it.
I went to the same place for breakfast and drinks every morning. The girls always greeted me, always chatted me up more than the other guys. One girl even sniffed me and complimented me on my smell.
They even asked me for guy advice, which I dropped red pill knowledge which they listened to with anticipation.
I just felt awesome and looked awesome.
I could tell my vibe with everyone was pretty cool, with the girls I was at ease.
Granted most the dudes didn't lift and were slobs obviously helped, but I felt in my element.
Hence Girl 2 in my trip summary above, she told her sister she wanted to get to know me when she saw me at the pool. Girl 2 saw me out of nowhere and stroked my chest. It doesn't get easier than that.
I just need to keep gaining more mass body wise and then cut up.
When I was on my trip, I wore cut off band t shirts showing off my arms.
At the pool, I was topless, rocking my chest hair and owning it.
I went to the same place for breakfast and drinks every morning. The girls always greeted me, always chatted me up more than the other guys. One girl even sniffed me and complimented me on my smell.
They even asked me for guy advice, which I dropped red pill knowledge which they listened to with anticipation.
I just felt awesome and looked awesome.
I could tell my vibe with everyone was pretty cool, with the girls I was at ease.
Granted most the dudes didn't lift and were slobs obviously helped, but I felt in my element.
Hence Girl 2 in my trip summary above, she told her sister she wanted to get to know me when she saw me at the pool. Girl 2 saw me out of nowhere and stroked my chest. It doesn't get easier than that.
I just need to keep gaining more mass body wise and then cut up.
spygoat · 2016-06-03 19:58:00 · #7843
(06-03-2016 04:23 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote: Funny how a change in your inner game can have so much effect on your outer game and results.
Makes me wonder about the doom and gloom gurus out there.
WIA
Exactly man. Being positive about yourself and just enjoying life will bring you more trim and positive vibes and people into your life than any lines or negs or tricks. That stuff works but it seems insincere to me. I'd rather miss on a few girls, be sincere about who I am and reap the benefits that come with it.
I see tons of negative stuff here and other places about how women are evil, terrible, irresponsible etc. While I won't deny that it does seem that way, there are a lot of good chicks out there too. Life is short, Keep your heads up fellas, easy to get down about some chick who did you wrong but sun comes up tomorrow and theres a blonde/brunette/redhead who wants you to talk to her and have fun with you.
Men are men, women are women, realize it, accept we're different and roll with it.
That attitude and frameshift for myself has lessened my anxiety about women more than anything. And the results are crazy.
Looks like I'm heading towards an LTR with this blonde -- happy about it...at the moment haha. Ask me again in a few months.
WestIndianArchie · 2016-06-03 20:25:00 · #7844
(06-01-2016 12:53 PM)JWLZG Wrote: I rambled on what forms of creativity did she have going for her, which I used to segue into a kiss...
...which she prompted backed away from, with a semi-jocular reaction along the lines of "Whoa, easy there tiger." (I don't recall what she said verbatim.)
She'd said, either then or earlier, that she wanted to take it easy after having left a 7 year relationship, and that she'd maybe kiss on the second date.
This was a FLAWLESS DATE.
Flag on the play.
(06-01-2016 12:53 PM)JWLZG Wrote: The topic was soon changed to my guitar, which she asked to have a go at. She was shit at it, predictably, so I guided her on strumming, chords, and scales, progressing through to a blues lick; it became a full-blown 20ish minute lesson. It was a good way to escalate kino.
She teased me once or twice about me getting blue-balled, which I agreed and amplified. I hoped I wasn't coming across as too thirsty.
Now it's getting meta.
(06-01-2016 12:53 PM)JWLZG Wrote: By then, she felt like smoking my weed, so we walked to the 7-Eleven and bought tobacco, papers, a meat pie and sausage roll. Back home, I grabbed cheese and white wine before we sat on the wall again.
This is a problem.
Maybe the date could have been more sexual throughout.
Did the proper thing by pulling back, during the first rejection.
But here you're rewarding her poor behavior.
The date should have ended before you went to 7/11.
(06-01-2016 12:53 PM)JWLZG Wrote: Our conversation jumped a bit of everywhere and I think we held our attention mutually. She did check her mobile periodically, which I called her out for. She seemed sorry and said that it was her brother or his boyfriend each time round, messaging . That and the fact that she cut me off while talking a few times at that point made me decide against LTR-ing her up.
LTR should not even be on your brain at this point.
But if you had those thoughts, and basically gave her the grand tour of your place, paid for everything, showed her the town - basically you put yourself in the provider box.
Which means that she can't have meaningless sex with you.
(06-01-2016 12:53 PM)JWLZG Wrote: I took the chance to establish comfort over a number of topics, which I emphasised by high-fiving her a couple of times. This was accentuated by us feeding each other cheese and pie.
That's rapport, not comfort. Rapport doesn't get you laid, Rapport facilitates you getting into topics and emotions that can get you laid.
(06-01-2016 12:53 PM)JWLZG Wrote: We carried on the conversation in my kitchen. I let slip that I speak Spanish, which she told me she wanted to learn when we were on the wall.
I tried to go for another kiss, which she pulled away from once again. Nevertheless she was still expressing her enjoyment of the night, which again I had no reason to doubt - I mean she got a free guitar lesson out of me.
Great for not giving up.
(06-01-2016 12:53 PM)JWLZG Wrote: I walked her around the corner from my house and we hugged goodbye. The whole date took just over 2 hours.
The game isn't over, you might be a little pressed. If you're evil, after the bang you should put off the vibe like "I waited all that time for this wack shit?"
(06-01-2016 12:53 PM)JWLZG Wrote: TL;DR — I can't help but wonder what was wrong with my game; was I lacking in verbal escalation? Do some girls absolutely not put out regardless of how airtight your game is?
It was a great *date*, but not necessarily great in terms of game.
If you find yourself having these amazing heartfelt dates, you're actually playing into what she THINKS she wants. What she actually responds to is a guy that makes her want to fuck immediately.
In your mind, it's a same day lay.
In her mind, it's a whirlwind affair. She was swept up in the moment.
What you want is sex, and the faster you get it from her, the more fruitful a date like this would be in cementing a budding LTR relationship.
Overall, I'm thinking you were too attentive to her needs. You sort of let her dictate what she wanted, without getting anything from her.
I didn't see you purposefully break rapport to see if she'll try to reestablish it. I didn't see much in terms of compliance. And the escalation was very light verbally, and the physical came at obvious points. (so obvious that she could be on guard for them. Ohh, he's gonna move me into the bedroom to look at his paintings, the kiss is coming soon...)
Now as how to play the second date, it's not clear if you're compelling enough to her in a sexual way that she wants to see you again.
But her playing games like "I might kiss you on the 2nd date" - she's not pretty enough to make demands like that. (and i've never seen the bitch)
You can take that as a challenge, as her flirting, trying to toy with you, and channel it into grudgefucking her. Or you can take this as a loss.
A player would keep the chick in check, but you've already invested a whole lot in this chick. You can't invest anything more, until she does.
WIA
Graft · 2016-06-03 20:47:00 · #7845
Hey guys, longtime lurker, thought I'd introduce myself. Mid 20's, NYC, been posting on ROK for 4 years under the same name/avatar.
Sort of interested in passive type game, but much more of an IDGAF attitude towards it, possibly because I don't have any good wings. Much more interest in fitness, cars, books, etc.
Favorite topics are ROK style-themes: politics, gender relations, cultural marxism, etc.
I've met a good friend from ROK but he doesn't go out much and I'd love to meet some guys from the forum. Pretty new to the area too, but I'm confident with some decent game and high social/political intellect from reading so much.
Sort of interested in passive type game, but much more of an IDGAF attitude towards it, possibly because I don't have any good wings. Much more interest in fitness, cars, books, etc.
Favorite topics are ROK style-themes: politics, gender relations, cultural marxism, etc.
I've met a good friend from ROK but he doesn't go out much and I'd love to meet some guys from the forum. Pretty new to the area too, but I'm confident with some decent game and high social/political intellect from reading so much.
Travesty · 2016-06-03 21:19:00 · #7846
(06-03-2016 08:25 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote: If you're evil, after the bang you should put off the vibe like "I waited all that time for this wack shit?"
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This is Pol Pot style. Me gusta.
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And the escalation was very light verbally, and the physical came at obvious points. (so obvious that she could be on guard for them. Ohh, he's gonna move me into the bedroom to look at his paintings, the kiss is coming soon...)
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Yes yes yes, attack from the shadow of the tree limb as the flying panther. Surprise them. Move fast like a bank robbery. The teller shouldn't see you in the corner looking nervous with a ski mask in your hand.
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Now as how to play the second date, it's not clear if you're compelling enough to her in a sexual way that she wants to see you again
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Are you liking being mean today?
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But her playing games like "I might kiss you on the 2nd date" - she's not pretty enough to make demands like that. (and i've never seen the bitch)
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Fuck this chick.
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You can take that as a challenge, as her flirting, trying to toy with you, and channel it into grudgefucking her. Or you can take this as a loss.
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Taking the loss has always worked out best for me in 90%+ of these
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A player would keep the chick in check, but you've already invested a whole lot in this chick. You can't invest anything more, until she does.
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Don't wait for that check to bounce.
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WIA
Travesty · 2016-06-03 21:25:00 · #7847
I have a confession. I slept with a virgin from college bus day game awhile back. She was a 20yo low 6. Redhead so that is always a weird plus. Slightly overweight, pilate instructor though which made it more strange, bit tits. Gave me. my first pilates lesson ever and still only one, in my living room.
Banged on date 3. I went for it on date 1 I made her underage drink in a bar.
She didn't tell me she was one until after sex (the sex was awful).
I think I went on one or two more dates with her. She then demanded I take her to dinner. I already had lunch with her. She was that chick that always mentions she's hungry. I couldn't stand to sit and see a chick that needs to lose weight eat on a date.
So I countered with, let's go on a run together instead and get a smoothie after. She didn't like that, it was needed. We didn't talk after that.
She had a chance at becoming a mid 7 getting in shape then having a fairy tale ending relationship with me.
She fucked up and got the boot.
Banged on date 3. I went for it on date 1 I made her underage drink in a bar.
She didn't tell me she was one until after sex (the sex was awful).
I think I went on one or two more dates with her. She then demanded I take her to dinner. I already had lunch with her. She was that chick that always mentions she's hungry. I couldn't stand to sit and see a chick that needs to lose weight eat on a date.
So I countered with, let's go on a run together instead and get a smoothie after. She didn't like that, it was needed. We didn't talk after that.
She had a chance at becoming a mid 7 getting in shape then having a fairy tale ending relationship with me.
She fucked up and got the boot.
JWLZG · 2016-06-04 00:28:00 · #7848
(06-02-2016 04:46 PM)General Stalin Wrote:(06-01-2016 12:53 PM)JWLZG Wrote: Do some girls absolutely not put out regardless of how airtight your game is?
Not all girls will be attracted to you.
Game is not a magic wand that makes all women want to have sex with you. Game is just a way to maximize your results with women who will have sex with you.
Stalin, I don't get it. We matched on Tinder. Wasn't the attraction assumed by then? Or are you getting at something else?
So many guys on RVF talk about how at least in the early days of Tinder, the whole "response -> #-close -> meet -> fuck" process was pretty much guaranteed upon matching.
What I've just written sounds laughable and utterly naïve upon looking back. I know I've had at least 5 dates where the girl hasn't felt it or didn't feel any chemistry despite having met them all on Tinder.
(06-03-2016 03:28 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote: Powerful update GS.
Real rap, regular guys undersell themselves.
They don't try hard enough to talk to women. They don't go out, they don't put themselves in places where chicks are.
No Jedi mind tricks, just raw approaching would increase s regular guy's numbers.
And if he decided to make himself look good after he got over his approach fears..
Before game, I could name every girl I'd ever talked to from grade school on up. I was so afraid.
All of my friends, my peers were the same. Some of them probably could still do it. In the workforce, only chicks they come into regular contact with is the cleaning staff.
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I think guys get faulty information about how attractive they actually are. If they were serious about trying to meet women they'd feel like players.
It's a handful of bad experiences in middle school and high school during puberty that controls men their entire lives. At least in America, where social hierarchy gets established in kindergarten. The more school bound, usually the worse guys have it.
The guy thinks that only 1 girl in 1,000 would like him. But in his life he's only talked to 12, only chatted up 1 or 2.
Real effort would get him better results.
Taking care of his outer looks after he fixed his approach anxiety would convince him that he's Hugh Hefner.
Game would blow his mind.
WIA
Sorry WIA, you're speaking in semantics I think but a lot of that information is relevant to me. Are you referring how most guys short-change themselves in the efforts they take to approach?
JWLZG · 2016-06-04 01:18:00 · #7849
Delete.
kaotic · 2016-06-04 01:24:00 · #7850
(06-04-2016 12:28 AM)JWLZG Wrote:(06-02-2016 04:46 PM)General Stalin Wrote:(06-01-2016 12:53 PM)JWLZG Wrote: Do some girls absolutely not put out regardless of how airtight your game is?
Not all girls will be attracted to you.
Game is not a magic wand that makes all women want to have sex with you. Game is just a way to maximize your results with women who will have sex with you.
Stalin, I don't get it. We matched on Tinder. Wasn't the attraction assumed by then? Or are you getting at something else?
So many guys on RVF talk about how at least in the early days of Tinder, the whole "response -> #-close -> meet -> fuck" process was pretty much guaranteed upon matching.
What I've just written sounds laughable and utterly naïve upon looking back. I know I've had at least 5 dates where the girl hasn't felt it or didn't feel any chemistry despite having met them all on Tinder.
Just because you match a girl on Tinder doesn't mean anything besides a swipe.
She might of been in the mood at that moment, or horny, or whatever.
It's your job to do what you described. The response>close>meet>fuck.
Thing is NOTHING is guaranteed, I've had dates where I left after one drink, dates that fizzled, dates where I got them to my house but no bang.
It doesn't sounds like getting their number and meeting up is the problem, the problem is how you game them in person, what your mindset is, what kind of game you put on.
There are plenty of various tweaks, slight changes, words, etc that can change the course of the night.
This is where you should start, do you log your dates ? I usually try to on this thread when I can.