Quote:Operation Blue Star was an Indian military operation which occurred between 3 June and 8 June 1984, ordered by Prime Minister Indira Gandhi[11] in order to establish control[12] over the Harmandir Sahib Complex in Amritsar, Punjab, and remove Jarnail Singh Bhindranwale and his armed followers from the complex buildings. Bhindranwale had earlier taken residence in Harmandir Sahib and made it his headquarters in April 1983.
The operation had two components—Operation Metal, confined to the Harmandir Sahib complex, and Operation Shop, which raided the Punjabi countryside to capture any suspects.[13] Following it, Operation Woodrose was launched in the Punjab countryside where Sikhs, specifically those carrying a kirpan and protesting,[14] were now targeted.[15][16] The operation was carried out by Indian Army troops with tanks, artillery, helicopters, armored vehicles and tear gas.[17][18][19] Casualty figures of Operation Blue Star given by Kuldip Singh Brar put the number of deaths among the Indian army at 83 and injuries at 220.[20] According to the official estimate presented by the Indian government, 492 civilians were killed,[9][10] though numbers put forward by independent human rights organizations are significantly higher.[21]
In addition, the CBI is considered responsible for seizing historical artifacts and manuscripts in the Sikh Reference Library, before burning it down.[22] The military action led to an uproar amongst Sikhs worldwide and the increased tension following the action led to assaults on members of the Sikh community within India. Many Sikh soldiers in the Indian army mutinied, many Sikhs resigned from armed and civil administrative office and several returned awards and honours they had received from the Indian government.[23]
Four months after the operation, on 31 October 1984, Indira Gandhi was assassinated by Satwant Singh and Beant Singh who were her two Sikh bodyguards, in what is viewed as an act of vengeance. Subsequently, more than 3,000 Sikhs were killed in the ensuing anti-Sikh riots in 1984.[24] Within the Sikh community itself, Operation Blue Star has taken on considerable historical significance and is often compared to what Sikhs call "the great massacre", following the invasion by the Emir of Afghanistan, Ahmad Shah Durrani, the Sikh holocaust of 1762
(06-02-2016 12:38 AM)N°6 Wrote: It is funny when the Dalai Lamma is less hip than Western hipsters think he is.
(06-02-2016 12:18 AM)WalterBlack Wrote: ...
These statues were built in a Buddhist area of Afghanistan before Islam existed - how many Buddhists are there in Afghanistan nowadays?
(06-02-2016 03:00 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote: For muslims to beat buddhists they only have to adhere to islam.
For buddhists to beat muslims they have to put most of their religion on hold for long enough to learn how to fight, and even if they win they're compelled to feel bad about it and forge their swords back to ploughshares.
Sadly, modern Christianity fares little better.
(06-02-2016 03:13 AM)El Chinito loco Wrote: ...
The muslims flipped Indonesia but that was the foundation of their kingdom in southeast asia and if you drew a radius it includes modern day Malaysia, southern tip of Thailand, and the southern part of the Philippines. However the islamist tips of Thailand and the Philippines are being diminished because they are extremist and do not have popular support.
Their advance was halted there for a lot of other reasons as well. Asia understands islam better than the west and the danger it poses and has always handled it with caution. Islam has always been a clear and present danger for NE and SE Asia.
Western Europe forgot the dangers of islam and the result is a pretty good probability of getting pozzed into cultural oblivion as a consequence of this complacency.
(06-02-2016 04:09 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:(06-02-2016 03:13 AM)El Chinito loco Wrote: ...
The muslims flipped Indonesia but that was the foundation of their kingdom in southeast asia and if you drew a radius it includes modern day Malaysia, southern tip of Thailand, and the southern part of the Philippines. However the islamist tips of Thailand and the Philippines are being diminished because they are extremist and do not have popular support.
Their advance was halted there for a lot of other reasons as well. Asia understands islam better than the west and the danger it poses and has always handled it with caution. Islam has always been a clear and present danger for NE and SE Asia.
Western Europe forgot the dangers of islam and the result is a pretty good probability of getting pozzed into cultural oblivion as a consequence of this complacency.
Indonesia being so close to Australia probably skews my perspective on this. But I don't think Western Europe is going to suffer cultural oblivion due to islam. Hard times ahead, yes. War, certainly. But I have every faith that once the greenhouse of Keynesian economics collapses then the hothouse weeds of progressivism will shrivel and die, leaving the heirloom stock to flourish.
(06-02-2016 04:23 AM)El Chinito loco Wrote: ...Now that Australia's refugee policy seems air tight it won't be an issue unless Australia goes insane and allows SJWs to commandeer the government and commit cultural seppuku like western Europe is right now.
I wouldn't rule that last possibility out yet..
(06-02-2016 08:55 AM)sixsix Wrote: I have ignored this thread for a while because it kept me too distracted from the work I needed to do, but I have to comment on this.
Sweden is going to hell? "Let it burn!"
Germany is going to hell? "Let it burn!"
First of all, the United States is going to hell as well and I don't see any resistance coming from the majority population there. Higher crime rates and unlimited immigration for decades and nobody does anything despite having 200 million firearms in private possession! Those cucked Europeans at least had Breivik who with his savagery managed to make his country vote more right in the following elections.
Europe is being shock-and-awed. People are kept unaware of what is really going on and every normal person here thinks that we're living in a free democracy with an independent press, and that included me until a couple of years ago. Most people do not understand the severity of the third-world invasion because all we see is pictures of some sad refugee families, and violent right-wing protesters. How do you think people should react when they are unaware? That's not even taking into consideration the decades worth of liberal programming about equality and our bad history.
It takes a while for the people to understand what's going on.
And then it's the question of getting organized and prepared. We all know whose side the elites are on and it's not our side. And even when one European country does manage to elect a populist right party into power than they will be stopped by the other countries still under globalist control: That is why so many Europeans on this forum want Donald Trump to win the election.
And letting it burn? Leave the country you inherited from your ancestors to the conquerors? And fuck the women because they caused it? Maybe understand the nature of the human condition and instead of hating women for being women decide to take responsibility of the future of your people. Women can fuck it up because the men have let them. Invaders can come into our lands and homes and steal, assault and rape with impunity because, again, we let them.
Women are not political animals. They desire dominance and when their men are so weak as to not protect them, physically and spiritually, they will seek out men who will. Seeing their countries being filled with aggressive foreigners, even before the migrant crisis, and the superior Western men being browbeaten, apologetic pussies that have never learned what their rightful place in this world is, what do you think the women do? How can they survive? By clinging on to men who are scared themselves? Any Western girl who goes for a third-world immigrant is a girl that would have been happy with a strong Western man if her culture had still provided enough of those.
That's not white knighting: It's accepting that there's no point in placing blame in externals. Has our culture been corrupted? Has our government been infiltrated? Yes and yes. But have we become decadent and complacent? Rome was once great and it's not anymore. To the victor belong the spoils and if the spoils make you comfortable you will soon be replaced by someone more hungry, someone more aggressive.
Let it burn?
How about we fight and really fight.
If our collective answer is going to be that we can't fight because that's been made illegal, that it's immoral, that people not on our side might judge us, that we might perish... Then the invaders have indeed been right that our lands were ripe for the picking and our traitorous elites were indeed right that they could psychologically disarm and submit us.
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(06-02-2016 10:01 AM)rw95 Wrote: A noble sentiment, sixsix. But really, is there anything left to fight for in the west anymore? Every institution has been subverted. The culture has been flipped upside down, and nothing short of total war will restore it. The women have been corrupted, they don't want to be defended, and what's more why should we defend them? Let them have their cake and eat it too. I have ZERO sympathy for the majority of western women.
As for what you have said about Donald Trump, you are for the most part correct. I have little hope that he will be able to turn around our corrupted culture. I think it's far too late for anything to be done about that. A best case scenario Trump presidency is that he improves the economy enough so that young men such as myself can get a foothold, make enough money and GTFO, and that he makes us keep to ourselves for the most part, keeping degeneracy from further infecting greener pastures.
(06-02-2016 12:38 AM)N°6 Wrote: It is funny when the Dalai Lamma is less hip than Western hipsters think he is.
(06-02-2016 10:12 AM)Lizard King Wrote: Open borders proponent Peter Sutherland(mentioned earlier in this thread) recently tweeted about the need to accept more rapefugees and soulmates.
https://twitter.com/PDSutherlandUN/statu...8557806596
(06-02-2016 10:16 AM)Samseau Wrote: There are no greener pastures. After the West falls, most of the world will be living hell. I wouldn't even count on Asia being safe once unrestricted Chinese aggression is unleashed.
The fact is, the men of the West are the true heart and soul of the civilization, and wherever they go they will have the West with them. Hence it's probably better just to fight a bloody war in America/Europe and carve out some new territory than it is to run.
(06-02-2016 10:16 AM)Samseau Wrote: There are no greener pastures. After the West falls, most of the world will be living hell. I wouldn't even count on Asia being safe once unrestricted Chinese aggression is unleashed.
The fact is, the men of the West are the true heart and soul of the civilization, and wherever they go they will have the West with them. Hence it's probably better just to fight a bloody war in America/Europe and carve out some new territory than it is to run.
Quote:Case of vigilantism in Saxony: In a supermarket, a vigilante group went after a mentally ill refugee because he allegedly stole something. Now determined the state protection.
In the video can be seen, as the Iraqis discussed in the checkout area of a net market with several employees. In his hand he holds a bottle. The staff ask him to repeatedly issue these. But the man did not respond.
Then several men dressed in black appear, take him the bottle off and drag him forcibly out. When the man resists, they beat him and abuse him. At the end of the video, a woman's voice says: "It's bad that you need a vigilante."
The police Saxony announced that officers found the fugitive tied with cable ties to a tree. The men said, therefore, they wanted to prevent him from fleeing.
(06-02-2016 10:01 AM)rw95 Wrote: A noble sentiment, sixsix. But really, is there anything left to fight for in the west anymore?
Quote:Every institution has been subverted.
Quote:The culture has been flipped upside down, and nothing short of total war will restore it.
Quote:The women have been corrupted, they don't want to be defended, and what's more why should we defend them? Let them have their cake and eat it too. I have ZERO sympathy for the majority of western women.
Quote:As for what you have said about Donald Trump, you are for the most part correct. I have little hope that he will be able to turn around our corrupted culture.
Quote:I think it's far too late for anything to be done about that.
(06-02-2016 01:29 PM)sixsix Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------------------------(06-02-2016 10:01 AM)rw95 Wrote: A noble sentiment, sixsix. But really, is there anything left to fight for in the west anymore?
Your friends and family, the heritage given to you by your ancestors, a future for your children, beautiful art and culture, great and smart people.
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Families for we younger men, sixsix, are not in the cards. Our lines die with us.
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Quote:Every institution has been subverted.
Institutions are built and destroyed and built again. Send our people to an uninhabited new land and we can create an entire new civilization from scratch so we can obviously restore our institutions at home.
Quote:The culture has been flipped upside down, and nothing short of total war will restore it.
Sound like you're not willing to go that far.
"If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism."
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You're right, I am not willing to go that far. I stand to gain nothing and lose everything if war comes. I'm not going to die for a civilization that doesn't give a fuck about me.
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Quote:The women have been corrupted, they don't want to be defended, and what's more why should we defend them? Let them have their cake and eat it too. I have ZERO sympathy for the majority of western women.
Do children want a strict parent? No. But that doesn't mean we don't parent our children. Women are corrupted, you say. And the future of our societies is in their hands and not yours, apparently. Lead and people will follow.
Do I have a problem with the leftists getting what they deserve from the savages they have invited? No, let them have it. But the rest of us, of all the beautiful women and innocent children, will also be targeted. And bitterness about less-than-autonomous female minds makes you think everyone deserves it?
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This is the big one. How many low-notch/virginal girls are there in the west. Not many. Of these few, how many are decently attractive, have homemaking skills, and want to have children? Even fewer. The majority of western women are simply dead weight (pun intended). Save the ones that can be saved, but they are very few in number.
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Quote:As for what you have said about Donald Trump, you are for the most part correct. I have little hope that he will be able to turn around our corrupted culture.
It's not gonna be just Donald Trump. It has to be all of us and a non-globalist US president would just make it easier to resist our own governments. Seek the power within yourself and not in external factors.
Quote:I think it's far too late for anything to be done about that.
What have you tried so far? I doubt you're typing this from a coffin or a prison cell.
Did the Spartans give up? Did the WWII soldiers give up? You say the culture is corrupted but we are the culture. Undo the programming that makes you want to submit to your enemies, reclaim your mind and reclaim your land.
(06-02-2016 10:01 AM)rw95 Wrote: A noble sentiment, sixsix. But really, is there anything left to fight for in the west anymore? Every institution has been subverted. The culture has been flipped upside down, and nothing short of total war will restore it. The women have been corrupted, they don't want to be defended, and what's more why should we defend them? Let them have their cake and eat it too. I have ZERO sympathy for the majority of western women.
(06-02-2016 10:01 AM)rw95 Wrote: You're right, I am not willing to go that far. I stand to gain nothing and lose everything if war comes. I'm not going to die for a civilization that doesn't give a fuck about me.
(06-02-2016 01:29 PM)sixsix Wrote: Did the Spartans give up? Did the WWII soldiers give up?
Quote:An Athenian force under Cleon and Demosthenes attacked and forced them to surrender.
Quote:Seeing their right wing beaten, the rest of the Peloponnesians, who were essentially unwilling participants, retired and left the enemy in possession of the field.
Quote:Late on 6 May, Wainwright asked Homma for terms of surrender. Homma insisted that surrender include all Allied forces in the Philippines. Believing that the lives of all those on Corregidor would be endangered, Wainwright accepted.
Quote:It resulted in the capture of Singapore by the Japanese and the largest surrender of British-led military personnel in history.[3] About 80,000 British, Indian and Australian troops became prisoners of war, joining 50,000 taken by the Japanese in the earlier Malayan Campaign. British Prime Minister Winston Churchill called the ignominious fall of Singapore to the Japanese the "worst disaster" and "largest capitulation" in British military history.[4]
Quote:You say the culture is corrupted but we are the culture.
Quote:Undo the programming that makes you want to submit to your enemies, reclaim your mind . . . .