I didn't know where else to put this. Russell Brand is sometimes mentioned on this forum with regard to his social skills. This early video shows complete mastery of amplification. Jonathan Ross starts off by mocking his feminine appearance; by the end of the show, his entire frame is completely inverted, and they're imagining Ross with his balls between his legs.

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Last night the chick I've been seeing about 9 months gets all pissed off at me for nothing. Whatever. So this morning I'm thinking, how do I go about this. I want to have sex with her later this evening, and she already "said" she's not planning on meeting up with me (in the heat of the moment).

My usual post-fight would be to go cold. This morning I decided to be a man and be proactive.

If it's my job to approach, to escalate, etc, it's my job to text her following a fight...not as an apology, just to move the interaction forward.

I texted her a simple "Hi". No plan, other than to get her talking. I even left the conversation boring. "Cool". "Great conversation". But eventually, we had a back and forth going.

I don't know if I'll be having sex with her tonight, and I'm not overly concerned about it, but this was me taking a don't give a fuck route.

Just fucked up "easy" bang.

Met this girl from daygame, there was great subcommunication, great sex vibe. Got her number, but it was diffucult to meet with her because of her boyfirend.

Eventually, I met her today and pulled her really fast, close to my apartment (it took about 30 minutes), then in front of my apartment she started shit testing me at the speed of kalashnikov. I could feel my face muscles tense up and she saw it too. She got me.

Game over.

My question to you guys is: how to be more unreactive? Just practice more? Mediation?

Drink a few before meeting a new bang works everytime.

Practice more, meditation, do "social comfort challenges" eg singing or dancing in the street, reflect repetitively on certain specific beliefs you want to ingrain eg "woman start shit testing only because they're attracted" etc

(05-19-2016 02:16 PM)Travesty Wrote:  Drink a few before meeting a new bang works everytime.

Especially if you drink a microbrew at a microbrewery.

Went on a date with what I thought would be a 7 from tinder.

Before we met she texted me, telling me she felt weird about tinder, initially took it as a drunk joke with a friend.

She claims to have never met anyone. I soothed the hamster and calmed the cat - told her I understand and want her to be comfortable. Suggested we facetime - we did. She was cute and picked up on my sarcasm. It went well, then we met up a few days later.

Met up and she was sadly not that 7+, probably a 6.5 and clearly about 10-15lbs heavier.

She was actually very feminine, soft spoken, kind of sweet.

Her body was interesting, thick from the legs and ass, yet her arms and torso weren't proportional, matter of fact they were smaller in size. (She mentions later she's working on that, she used to have a great body).

I actually enjoyed talking to her, she still lives at home, very artistic, loves photography.

We shot pool, she was pretty horrible, but with my guidance put a few balls in pockets.

Took a break, chatted for a bit, watched another 2 couples play, and chatted with them for a bit.

People watched, had a few more drinks.

We bounced outside and talked a bit.

Then these smoking hot girls walk by in nothing but bra and undies.....fucking a man it was the universities undie run around the circle.

I totally checked out the girls, we walked by a bit, literally 10 cops on every corner.

I had her give me a ride back to my car.

She gives me a half ass hug but immediately goes in when I go in for the kiss, lots of tongue and some passion, which was good.

Sends me a goodnight i'm home text.

I'll probably end up banging this one. I'm just grinding through numbers as of now.

Need more time with my new Harley.

FaceTime? Brilliant.

Consider that stolen

WIA

(05-19-2016 04:31 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  FaceTime? Brilliant.

Consider that stolen

WIA

Matter of fact I always do a phone call or facetime before we meet.

That way I can tell if its worth the meet or not and if the girl is legit.

Secondly the soothing the cat and hamster - I have to give credit to Gio.


I remember Gio talking or texting girls saying things like "I totally get it, and I want you to be comfortable around me."

I then added the "how about we facetime/I call you at X time"

Throw all that into my text game and it's a good recipe.


The girl I went on a date with last night told me she was super nervous even after facetiming right up until we started talking.

She was comfortable and having a great time with me.

This one of the best ways to disarm ASD and last minute nerves in my opinion.

Banged a young hottie (8+, 24 yo) last year on the first date. Online girl.

Things went well on the date with no LMR, but at the end of the date as she was leaving we had a disagreement. She wanted gas money for coming across town and I had like, $ 2 in cash in my wallet which I gave her.

I have a feeling she wanted to me to give her more as I live in an upscale apartment and am much older than her, hence more wealthy.

She sent a nasty text within 10 minutes of leaving for not helping more with gas. I'm like 'fuck this crazy bitch'

I never responded or texted her again.

Her profile was off of the site within a few weeks.

Recently, her profile pops up on the site again. I've noticed she's been viewing my profile on and off.

I'd love to tap it again as she's one of the hottest I've ever been with, but it ended on bad terms with her text. Albeit she was a bit drunk but still.

I was thinking of sending her a brief message on the site like 'hope you're doing well'. Extend an olive branch of sorts to perhaps lead to a re-bang.

Thoughts?

(05-20-2016 05:06 PM)robreke Wrote:  Banged a young hottie (8+, 24 yo) last year on the first date. Online girl.

Things went well on the date with no LMR, but at the end of the date as she was leaving we had a disagreement. She wanted gas money for coming across town and I had like, $ 2 in cash in my wallet which I gave her.

I have a feeling she wanted to me to give her more as I live in an upscale apartment and am much older than her, hence more wealthy.

She sent a nasty text within 10 minutes of leaving for not helping more with gas. I'm like 'fuck this crazy bitch'

And do what ? Restart this BS cycle again ?

Have some respect for yourself, no bitch is worth that.

She straight up demanded money and sent you a nasty text AFTER you have her some gas money.

Fuck that bitch.

(05-20-2016 05:22 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

(05-20-2016 05:06 PM)robreke Wrote:  Banged a young hottie (8+, 24 yo) last year on the first date. Online girl.

Things went well on the date with no LMR, but at the end of the date as she was leaving we had a disagreement. She wanted gas money for coming across town and I had like, $ 2 in cash in my wallet which I gave her.

I have a feeling she wanted to me to give her more as I live in an upscale apartment and am much older than her, hence more wealthy.

She sent a nasty text within 10 minutes of leaving for not helping more with gas. I'm like 'fuck this crazy bitch'

And do what ? Restart this BS cycle again ?

Have some respect for yourself, no bitch is worth that.

She straight up demanded money and sent you a nasty text AFTER you have her some gas money.

Fuck that bitch.

Yep, that's what I thought.

Needed a little real talk. Momentary lapse of reason clouded by memories of top tier poon.

A disrespectful nutcase for sure.

For the first time in a very long time, I was not able to overcome LMR.

So ironic as the vibes was all smooth before the actual meet. Straight 7 from online, I even caught a nice little surprise in person as she had a peach of a bum that was not revealed in her online pics. Cut a long story short, I flaked on her a couple times due to me having to travel for work. In between about 2 weeks worth of whatsapp conversations we eventually arrange to meet up for a bottle of red at mine due to the fact that i want to keep it 'laid back' as work has been running me down of late...lol

We got along pretty well to be fair as I just rambled on about why I travel so much for work and she seemed to be quite comfortable so i go for the make out and she's having it but I can tell something is off... Its hard to put in words but I can always tell when the deal is sealed. A good example is when you start making out on the sofa and then you go on top to escalate but her legs are still closed so she doesn't open up for dry humping...

Well she starts with the usual about how its the first meet up and as a result its not on. Before she can even finish i tell her i dont buy all of that and that since she already said she was looking to come around for just a bit she might as well be on her way. She became quite apologetic signalling that there was always a next time, I added "or not" with a smirk and left it as that.

Its just part of the game i guess; no sweat.

Kind of shitty night on the town.

Bad News: Asshole dented part of the front end of my car then ran off.

Good News: I got a girl hooked.

Fuck it all. I'm gonna get shit in the morning for my car. Is what it is. Could have been worse.

Cheers!

Edit: What a shitty way to hit 3000 posts. But ain't life shitty.

(05-21-2016 12:43 AM)Comte De St. Germain Wrote:  Kind of shitty night on the town.

Bad News: Asshole dented part of the front end of my car then ran off.

Good News: I got a girl hooked.

Fuck it all. I'm gonna get shit in the morning for my car. Is what it is. Could have been worse.

Cheers!

Edit: What a shitty way to hit 3000 posts. But ain't life shitty.

Sounds like all good news to me.

Life isn't a car or parents bitching about a car or how many times a guy fucked up your car and ran off.

It's only a collection of memories and funny stories. Life is just good memories and funny stories. I'd total my car right now just to relive one hour of a funny night out gaming girls with my friends.

(05-19-2016 02:11 PM)ginatingles Wrote:  My question to you guys is: how to be more unreactive? Just practice more? Mediation?

It comes with time. Meditation per se probably won't help with this, but being a little meditative during the interaction will help (as below). You have to be able to accept that it's a numbers game all the way up to the last second.

It used to be that a failed bang after I brought the girl back was absolutely crushing. The reason was partly because I was so attached to that individual outcome, and that I was expecting it to some extent. Now it doesn't make that much difference too me -- and as a result that's actually improved outcomes. Examples include girls who simply wouldn't go for it, and under the 'now or never' closing-window rule would traditionally have then ghosted on me, but instead now they come back. The difference is how calm I now am about it all. I never take any set backs in the interaction to heart in any way. As a result there are no 'sharp moments', everything just comes off as smooth and comfortable, and the girl isn't able to flag and remember a 'rejection point' in her head as easily even if she comes over but it doesn't end in a bang.

I think women are extremely sensitive to any "needing it" feeling from the guy, and it's way beyond what a guy can fake or imitate. He must have it internalized. This is why the momentum effect is so real: a guy who's getting laid has zero "needing it" vibe, which helps him get laid even more.

Next time, just think: "this girl may or may not go for it, I simply will not know until the last second. I will do everything in this interaction to the best of my ability, and later I will discover if this will be a lay".

Your high reactiveness will fade in time if you keep this up.

Party season on the Jersey Shore started about a month early.

Friday night I went out solo to a club in right on the beach - the vibe was great. There was a seemingly endless supply of sexy, young, friendly girls. I showed up completely sober at about 1045pm, and my energy level definitely did not match that of the crowd, which was already in full on party mode. I sat in a chair for the first 40 minutes and observed the crowd. After slaying 3 beers I moved to a perfect area of the bar where there was room to maneuver, but girls were still passing through like conveyor belt.

A thick but pretty girl had been gifted a broken down cardboard beer case from one of the bartenders, and was slamming it as hard as she could on the bar to match the EDM beat and bring attention to herself. She squeezed in right next to me at the bar, and started pounding her toy against the bar with unbeliveable volume.

Approach #1: "Jesus, where did you get that fuckin' weapon of yours?"

She said the bartender gave to her, and at this point I realized she was completely tanked. I tried to say something else to her but she put a finger over her lips to give me the "shoosh" sign. I laughed at the hilarious rudeness and ignored her. I turned back to her 5 minutes later and she is staring at me from 18 inches away with this goofy, sexual look on her face. I laughed and said "hey." We had a weird staring contest for 10 seconds until she walked away.

A group of beautiful but extremely short Italian girls squeezed up next to me. The DJ was announcing the name of an Italian girl who had just won a raffle of some sort. I caught a glance from one of the girls.

Approach #2: "Your last name is Magliodonerroni right? I think they just callled you on stage"

She laughed and was very responsive, but I don't know if she even understood what the hell I said She said "OMG I thought you were someone I know!!" and kept touching my shoulders/chest while talking to me with a big smile. We exchanged a few more words and I asked her for her name before she amicably rejoined her huge group of girls.

I walked to another part of the bar that was outside to get another drink. I stood next to a guy who was with 2 girls. Both girls were very pretty and slender - one was wearing a shirt that had wild designs on the sleeves. She had a nose ring, so I honestly thought she had a crazy sleeve tattoo for a moment. I tapped her on the shoulder:

Approach #3: "Oh shit - for a second I thought you were covered in tattoos. But it's just your shirt."

She reacted enthusiastically with a smile. I said "Let me guess, you're....

I was getting a little bolder and buzzed at this point. I took a big exaggerated lean over to check out her ass.

"Hmm, I was going to say Brazilian, but now I'm not so sure."

She laughed and acknowledged that she had a tiny flat butt. We talked a bunch and had a 30 minute chat on a picnic table inside the venue. We walked together to the dancefloor, and she got on stage to participate in a dance contest. She came in 4th!

We walked around the bar more - I grabbed her hand and led her through the crowds. Soon it was time for her to leave with her friends. We went outside together to her Uber, and she dodged a kiss twice before finally relenting on the third try. She said "you better text me!" as she got in the cab.

I woke up this morning without her number saved in my phone - I might have been so caught up in the moment that I forgot to ask her for her number. She's an ex-employee and regular at the bar we went to though, so I'm sure I'll be seeing her again soon.


I prefer to approach solo since the average guy is such a shitty wingman, but I have to say, if nothing else, it's way more enjoyable to have a friend to chill with inside the bar. The older I get, the harder (and less appealing) it is to keep up with young guns getting obliterated wasted. Praying RVF gets a Jersey Shore crew ASAP.

Finally ended a two month dry spell by getting head on a bus and fucking a Canadian 6 the day after. God bless going out at night. If anyone's ever getting burned out with daygame(as I was), it's very important to switch things up and start going for night game. If you're going out with friends, it's a lot more fun than running around spitting game at women in the day. Plus you're fucked up, plus there's tons of drunk bitches dancing...I'm not saying anything that hasn't been said a million times, but it's important to understand how important it is to switch your gaming style up on occasion.

My friend is away for the week so I'm sitting his luxury loft. About to run GBFM game and text a picture of it to all my leads with "Come over." as the caption.

I found this book in the library and sent a pic of it to every girl on my radar.



Great reactions, mostly along the lines of "Ugh."

(05-19-2016 04:27 PM)kaotic Wrote:  I soothed the hamster and calmed the cat - told her I understand and want her to be comfortable.

I have to give credit to Gio

"Scaring the Cat"

This is a well known phrase from Roosh's book.

It means don't scare the girl.

Roosh described it in regards to approaching.

I took the concept and applied it to more than just approaching. I applied it it to the entire process from meeting the girl to fucking the girl.

That little phrase -- "I understand and I want you to be comfortable".

That is high level communication. That communicates social skill and social awareness. That tells the girl that you "get it". That tell the girl that you are likely a member of The Secret Society.

That type of communication helps to put her mind at ease and allows her to relax and feel sexual.

We have to cultivate comfort. That line does a lot to accelerate and cement her comfort level.

Well played.

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Here is the post where I first described recognizing and acknowledging a girls comfort level:

(12-17-2015 01:49 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  She is 18, thin, and cute. I texted her around 10pm:

me: hey michelle hows it going?

her: its good how are you

me: really good thanks. Done with finals?

her: yeah!!

me: awesome! how are you celebrating

her: dinner with friends

me: fun. I know you're a smart girl and you probably think that I'm just trying to sleep with you

her: well.. yeah, thats what it seemed like the other night you're so persistent with a full body massage

me: I'm not denying it, I do want that. But, I also want you to know that I'm actually a really nice guy and im totally normal and responsible etc. Im attracted to you physically and while I dont know you that well I can tell that you are very smart and sweet. I wanted to give you an opportunity to have some fun in a safe space with no strings attached and without worry. It might sound crazy but its also very sexy and I hope you consider it.

her: so like friends with benefits is what you're asking?

me: ya i guess that term would work here

her: what exactly do u mean by have fun? I feel like u are asking for something specific lol

me: nothing specific but like i said the other night.. nothing u dont want and everything you do want. I don't have any expectations, whatever happens is okay

her: well, i'll think about it, friends with benefits is not really my style but i will think about it

me: u deserve some fun, u deserve to be spoiled

her: i mean it all sounds really nice but its a little overwhelming. We're so much different in age.

me: The age difference is not a big deal. You are mature.

her: The age difference makes me a little nervous

me: I want you to be totally comfortable.. Its totally up to you. If you're not interested, no worries sweetie

her: In my head it does sound hot but im not sure if it would really be that way in person

me: yes of course we can never guarantee chemistry in person. If we dont spark than nothng will happen. Its really low risk but high reward for you

her: im shy in person and i dont want you to get your hopes up, I'm a virgin so i dont want you to be disappointed if i dont want to have sex

me: thanks for communicating that. I rspect u and ur body 100%.. maybe u should consider drinking a little bit to loosen up. Like i already said -- nothing u dont want and everything u do want. I dont expect u to lose ur virginity this week but i want u to know im happy to massage you, caress you, and maybe give you oral or something if u wanted that.

her: that sounds amazing!

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That was basically it. I just wanted to get her pussy wet and plant the seed in her mind, all the while building comfort and displaying myself in a strong way.

https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-14257...pid1172756

I was relaying that, should've been more clear in my writings.

But that phrase is important - comfort game and "getting it" are huge when pulling a girl home or having her come over.

I'm a bit obsessed with train pickups lately.

I think I've gotten the evening train thing on lock. I'm mentally blocked on the morning train.

So two guys and a somewhat cute girl (cute for this city, but would not get a second glance in NYC) are chatting about the latest episode of game of thrones.

I open guy number one non verbally.
He lets me in. He invites me in to the conversation.

I address guy number two with a reference to True Detective. Time is a flat circle.

Possible threats neutralized before game starts.

Then I start talking to all of them about the topic, switching eye contact among all three. Banter ensues.

And like clockwork, she asks for my name.

I'm not a millionaire, six foot, blond, or 11% body fat.

I was wearing a blue dress shirt and some light grey slacks, but that's typical office worker wear. So no custom suited down game.

The game works all the time, damn near everywhere.
(In this case bring value until she reacts to you)

Yet I can't seem to use what I know for tense social situations like heading to work. On any given day, this is the highest concentration of good looking candidates.

I just need to open my mouth. Yet I can't

WIA

This cutie from the gas station wants to have a threesome with me and my girl. But I'm affaid to ask my girl

(05-24-2016 09:43 AM)JoyStick Wrote:  This cutie from the gas station wants to have a threesome with me and my girl. But I'm affaid to ask my girl

You can always ask then play it off as a joke if you get resistance or she freaks.