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syrianguy · 2016-05-18 17:13:00 · #9676
(05-18-2016 04:44 PM)FebGun Wrote:  integration attempt





my god...17 years in Damascus and I never witnessed that
Europe taking in the most backward bunch
Parzival · 2016-05-18 17:23:00 · #9677
Seems like they did catch the main suspect who killed the 17 old german boy Niklas with no reason. Its a guy from Morocco but with Italian papers that lives now in Germany. He has a well known criminal record. Stories like this are not new. Migrants attack Germans with no reasons and cripple or even kill them. I just remember where one killed a turkish Migrant girl Tugce or Jonny K. in Berlin. There are other cases like the one of Daniel S.
Whats more strange - well actual this is Germany - are that the demonstrations for the dead boy have counter protest from left wing groups that say, everyone who demonstrate for the victim and mention that the offenders are migrants, is a criminal.

http://www.express.de/bonn/verdaechtiger...mcid=sm_tw

   

They still on the hunt for two others. Description is very clear - southern looking. Whats interesting, people mention not only the attack did happen with no reason, also that the offenders did speak German with no accent. But nobody say what they did speak. I'm quite sure it was something like: Shitty Germany, shitty Germans and other Anti German insults. Its quite common among those people to behave Anti German and then even get back up from left wing and politics. Migrant crimes get downplay not only since Cologne. I had my experiences with such groups as well. Nobody is safe in close distance of such migrant groups. They can explode into violence out of the sudden. People have to make a stand, if they prefer to go to prison or be crippled or killed.
captndonk · 2016-05-18 18:34:00 · #9678
There are criminals like this guy from marocco who committed 50+ attacks and are still not in prison even if they commit their attacks on parole.
Well of course one day they might get in prison but only for a few years and on their way they damaged the life of many innocent people.
Shoubuliao · 2016-05-18 19:16:00 · #9679
My German friends, please adopt the Russian approach to this human garbage and start cracking skulls.
Parzival · 2016-05-19 03:50:00 · #9680
http://taz.de/!5301706/

Quote:After three months in Berlin Kurd Gaylan Mawlud returns voluntarily to Iraq. He warns his friends: Do not go to Germany.

Mawlud is one of over 2,000 refugees from Iraq who have gone since September last year from Germany back to their homeland. More than 2,000 who prefer to live in a country that suffers from a civil war and is at the front with the IS. Why go back? Had they misconceptions about life in Germany? Or says her return something about the conditions for refugees from this country?

"Last summer," says Mawlud while he puts together shirts, "I thought every day, I must die." Not for fear of IS, which approached to Erbil. Not because he was politically persecuted. "I was bored," he says softly. Each day felt like the last and the one before: Shirts fold, waiting for customers. Go at the free day to the cafe and smoking hookah. Wait until something happens, but actually know: Nothing will happen.
Last summer Mawlud saw the pictures on television of refugees who went to Europe. They looked happy as they went in Lesbos from the boats or waved from the train windows in Serbia.Mawlud lives in the Kurdish autonomous region in northern Iraq. In the last two years there have been only two attacks. The peshmerga celebrate successes in the fight against IS - also thanks to German weapons. The defense against the IS and the conflict with the central government in Baghdad has plunged the Kurdish region in an economic crisis. In northern Iraq, also live a million IDPs, Yazidis and hundreds of thousands of Syrian refugees.
The end of July last year summed Mawlud his decision to go to Germany. His older brother for many years lived in the UK, with Skype, he had said to him: Come to me. But Mawlud wanted to Germany. When he told his parents that he was going, his mother took him in her arms and said, "It's your life. You shall live there, any way you like it. "

Life in Germany, Mawlud had imagined it differently. Light. The queue outside the LaGeSo they had not shown on television. The loneliness, cornered in the rooms either. At home in Erbil Mawlud had not want to wait for something to happen. Now he had to wait again, for weeks. The boredom, before he fled, had caught up with him.In Germany, it was winter, cold and dark, and he was barely a pocket money. Once his brother came from the UK to visit. Those were happy days for Mawlud. He wanted to go with him, but he was registered in Germany.

Mawlud gives German Chancellor blame for the situation in Berlin: "Merkel has said that we must come," says Mawlud, and must make an effort to hold back his anger. "In Germany, I realized: That's not true. Merkel says something, but they do something else. "

Today his trip to Germany it is embarrassing. The flight was expensive, he had a total paid $ 7,000. His car a Nissan Ultima Mawlud has sold. Now he comes with the taxi to work. His friends at the bazaar laugh at him. "With the money you had here half a year to go to the disco," they say.
But Mawlud does not go to the disco, he goes to the mosque five times a day.

Ridiculous mindset. And to us in Germany they say, that are the skilled expert we need to save our economy.
Zelcorpion · 2016-05-19 04:01:00 · #9681
This report by the mainstream media on the new assaults at the Festival of Cultures in Berlin tells it all really:

http://www.berliner-zeitung.de/berlin/fr...--24081216


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Obviously a European man trying to grab a woman and not a group of 'Southerners' attempting to harass, rob and rape a girl.

Quote: Now many are wondering: Is that so, where can be expected next with aggressive, misogynistic men's groups? Can women still go without fear alone? Is society helpless or what they do about it?

Men try to do something about it, but since you leftist fucktards insist that Islam is like Christianity, 99% of immigrants are like native Germans, then we cannot really do much about it. 1% of Germans are psychopaths as well, but at least 80% of youth in Belgium don't view the Brussels terrorists as heroes (something that Belgian Muslim youth do).

Quote:One victim reported, according to police, there had been insulted by one of the attackers with the words: "Well, you sluts want that!" A feeling of fear and helplessness military prevailed. Some women were upset or had been crying.

Helplessness. Yeah - because when men fight back, they are getting incarcerated and called racists. So what shall we do? The behavior of those men can easily explained by the religion of peace and the cultures in their homecountries, but of course that cannot be the reason for their behavior.

And who is guilty of racism again:

Quote:Right-wing populists use origin of the suspects for their purposes

The debate as to whether this new form of sexual coercion has something to do with the origin of the perpetrators, their families or Islam, was conducted after the New Year's Eve in Cologne. Right-wing populists responded with quick reversals, others tried to separate the threads, so as not to discredit immigrants.

Now the issue has moved again in the focus. The AFD tries to score with pithy words. The Berlin regional chairman Georg Pazderski outraged already about the word "Antänzer". These were "criminals".

And again - when you say something about the culture, then you are a racist. When you want to close the borders to them, you are a racist. When you say something against Islam you are an Islamophobe. They are all just criminals. I am just happy that the Mayans are no longer practicing their religion, or cutting out human hearts every morning would have to be accepted by the West.

Quote:In police circles is to hear that young migrants often have a world view that are despised in the women and are nothing. So there is also often no sense of wrongdoing, when women are attacked.

And that even is not new.

There was a Danish study on Muslim criminals:

http://www.newenglishreview.org/Nicolai_...fferences/

Quote:For example, Muslim culture has a very different view of anger. In Western culture, expressions of anger and threats are probably the quickest way to lose face leading to a feeling of shame and a loss of social status. In Muslim culture, aggressive behaviors, especially threats, are generally seen to be accepted, and even expected as a way of handling conflicts.
In the context of foreign policy, peaceful approaches such as demonstrations of compassion, compromise and common sense are seen by Muslim leaders as cowardice and a weakness to be exploited. In that respect, anger and violence are not reasons to begin negotiations, but are integral components of the negotiation process itself.
According to Sennels, there is another important psychological difference between Muslim and Western cultures called the “locus of control,” whether people experience life influenced by either internal or external factors.
Westerners feel that their lives are mainly influenced by inner forces, our ways of handling our emotions, our ways of thinking, our ways of relating to people around us, our motivations, and our way of communicating; factors that determine if we feel good and self-confident or not.
In Muslim culture, however, inner factors are replaced by external rules, traditions and laws for human behavior. They have powerful Muslim clerics who set the directions for their community, dictate political views, and provide rules for virtually all aspects of life.
The locus of control is central to the individual’s understanding of freedom and responsibility. When Westerners have problems, we most often look inward and ask “What did I do wrong?” and “What can I do to change the situation?” Muslims look outward for sources to blame asking: “Who did this to me?” Sennels noted that a standard answer from violent Muslims is often: “It is his own fault that I beat him up (or raped her). He (or she) provoked me.”
As a result, Muslim culture offers a formula for perpetual victimhood.
With a decrease in feelings of personal responsibility, there is a greater tendency to demand that the surroundings adapt to Muslim wishes and desires, infiltrating rather than to assimilating into a Western culture.
All of this does not bode well for the logic of any proposal to increase Muslim immigration into non-Muslim cultures or the success of any foreign policy involving Muslim nations by applying current Islamophobia-based misconceptions.
Sennels offers a harsh, but realistic prescription:
“We should not permit the destruction of our cities by lawless parallel societies, with groups of roaming criminal Muslims overloading of our welfare system and the growing justified fear that non-Muslims have of violence. The consequences should be so strict that it would be preferable for any anti-social Muslim to go back to a Muslim country, where they can understand, and can be understood by their own culture.

So essentially you hear it all:

a) we harrassed and robbed her, becuause she is a slut anyway and a dirty unbeliever wearing slutty clothes
b) I raped the boy in the swimming pool, because I did not have sex for a few months and he is also a dirty Kufar anyway
c) I take social security and hate the culture, because it is just an inferior culture of Kufars that should pay us superior Muslims the Jizya anyway
d) they want to stop further immigration like Trump by us, because they are racist Islamophobes
e) I killed that 17 yo German dirty boy, because he provoked me. Nevermind that we first shouted insults to his girlfriend. He got what he deserved.

etc etc.


Essentially you can pick your excuse for any atrocity committed. Even in ISIS territories you hear plenty of stories of one beheader accusing another one of some crime just because he is pissed off at him. Indulging in negative emotional whims is a catastrophic ethical system in society.

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And no wonder the usual perps attempted to kill Rumi's teacher Shamus-I-Tabriz. Original Sufism was diamatrically opposed to the teachings of Mohammed. Now the world reaps the results of the expansion of this ideology until the day when it will purge itself from it. And I am afraid that it won't happen without massive bloodshed.
Parzival · 2016-05-19 04:34:00 · #9682
http://www.welt.de/politik/deutschland/a...-Asyl.html

Quote:Only two asylum seekers from the Maghreb states of Morocco, Tunisia and Algeria granted asylum in 2015, according to information of the Federal Government.

3 Asylum Act under Section in application of the Geneva Convention - - In addition, 31 citizens of these states has been the federal government is granted refugee protection. In further 22 asylum seekers from the Maghreb a so-called subsidiary protection (review after one year) has been granted or established a prohibition on deportation. All in all, has taken the Federal Office for Migration and Refugees (BAMF) in 2015 a total of 2605 decisions on asylum applications from members of the three North African countries.

Throughout the year came from Morocco, Algeria and Tunisia together some 26,000 irregular migrants to Germany.

And what happen to the others? Right, nothing. No consequences, no deportation. Even when they are criminal, nothing will happen.
thecrazy · 2016-05-19 08:20:00 · #9683
(05-19-2016 04:01 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  And that even is not new.

There was a Danish study on Muslim criminals:

http://www.newenglishreview.org/Nicolai_...fferences/

Quote:For example, Muslim culture has a very different view of anger. In Western culture, expressions of anger and threats are probably the quickest way to lose face leading to a feeling of shame and a loss of social status. In Muslim culture, aggressive behaviors, especially threats, are generally seen to be accepted, and even expected as a way of handling conflicts.
In the context of foreign policy, peaceful approaches such as demonstrations of compassion, compromise and common sense are seen by Muslim leaders as cowardice and a weakness to be exploited. In that respect, anger and violence are not reasons to begin negotiations, but are integral components of the negotiation process itself.
According to Sennels, there is another important psychological difference between Muslim and Western cultures called the “locus of control,” whether people experience life influenced by either internal or external factors.
Westerners feel that their lives are mainly influenced by inner forces, our ways of handling our emotions, our ways of thinking, our ways of relating to people around us, our motivations, and our way of communicating; factors that determine if we feel good and self-confident or not.
In Muslim culture, however, inner factors are replaced by external rules, traditions and laws for human behavior. They have powerful Muslim clerics who set the directions for their community, dictate political views, and provide rules for virtually all aspects of life.
The locus of control is central to the individual’s understanding of freedom and responsibility. When Westerners have problems, we most often look inward and ask “What did I do wrong?” and “What can I do to change the situation?” Muslims look outward for sources to blame asking: “Who did this to me?” Sennels noted that a standard answer from violent Muslims is often: “It is his own fault that I beat him up (or raped her). He (or she) provoked me.”
As a result, Muslim culture offers a formula for perpetual victimhood.
With a decrease in feelings of personal responsibility, there is a greater tendency to demand that the surroundings adapt to Muslim wishes and desires, infiltrating rather than to assimilating into a Western culture.
All of this does not bode well for the logic of any proposal to increase Muslim immigration into non-Muslim cultures or the success of any foreign policy involving Muslim nations by applying current Islamophobia-based misconceptions.
Sennels offers a harsh, but realistic prescription:
“We should not permit the destruction of our cities by lawless parallel societies, with groups of roaming criminal Muslims overloading of our welfare system and the growing justified fear that non-Muslims have of violence. The consequences should be so strict that it would be preferable for any anti-social Muslim to go back to a Muslim country, where they can understand, and can be understood by their own culture.

I've read the full article and i think it is full of bollocks. I am from south italy and i recognize most of those "muslim" behaviours, they can be easily found here, "get angry and abusive and you're strong and cool", "i wasn't wrong, he/she deserved it", "it's not my fault i'm unemployed/poor etc. it's because of the place", "your suburb, town, county makes your real identity more than your country" but nobody is muslim here and muslims are definitely not welcome or protected like in "civilized" countries.
I actually don't see anything muslim in those behaviours/mentality, it's just that "westerners" don't know much about the world and call islam everything that looks different to what they're used to or everything they think is bad.

The reason why muslims and all foreigners don't integrate in the "good" part of the world is because they don't need to, it is not their fault, they are not bad people because they live in their own ghettos and do whatever the fuck they want, it's the host country's fault. You should stop blaming foreigners for your own weaknesses.

Here if a woman goes out wearing the hijab everybody is gonna look strange at her, she's gonna be seen like an alien, in "good" countries women go to work wearing hijabs and if you say something about it you're gonna be charged with hate crime, so why should they start dressing normally? Here nobody is gonna eat that rubbish they make in those fried chicken shops, kebab shops, indian food shops etc. they're gonna close down straight away, maybe just the high quality ones are gonna survive. In "good" countries local people go and buy that trash on a daily basis, so muslims know they can make business easily selling their food and invade and colonize the west. Same for mobile phones shops, electronic stuff shops, internet cafes etc. if they know it's so easy for them opening their own business, being seen and treated like local people (if not better) without struggling to fit in the new country it is obvious they're not gonna integrate and they will just invade and colonize.

And it is not a problem that can be solved by governments or laws, normal people should have more pride, more self respect, more cultural identity. The laws and the government are the same in centre/north italy and in the south, but the south is still original, it's still real while the rest of italy is getting similar to the rest of europe becuase people there have none of the qualities i mentioned above. And most of the migrants get in the country via the south.
C-Note · 2016-05-19 10:03:00 · #9684
Chiled molester arrested in Germany.

Quote:KAISERSLAUTERN, Germany — German authorities have arrested a 22-year-old man suspected of molesting three children in Kaiserslautern last month.

The man was apprehended Monday in the eastern German city of Chemnitz, where he is believed to have committed similar acts on at least two other occasions, according to a press release from the Rhineland-Pfalz office of criminal investigation. Authorities from the two German states worked together to track down the man after recognizing the similarities in their cases.

The suspect, whose name was not released, was recognized by police on camera footage after he withdrew money at an automatic teller machine, according to media reports.

In April, Kaiserslautern police reported that the man approached a girl at about 3 p.m. near Adolph-Kolping-Platz. Her father heard her scream and ran to her. The father managed to take a picture of the suspect, police said. About three hours later, the suspect was spotted on Mainzerstrasse and an hour later on Rauschenweg. In each case, he made physical contact with children, but the children ran away.

Refugee?
   
Parzival · 2016-05-19 11:14:00 · #9685
Skilled expert. Germany need him because he and all the others help that our system don't collapse.
redpillage · 2016-05-19 12:31:00 · #9686
(05-19-2016 10:03 AM)C-Note Wrote:  Chiled molester arrested in Germany.

Quote:KAISERSLAUTERN, Germany — German authorities have arrested a 22-year-old man suspected of molesting three children in Kaiserslautern last month.

The man was apprehended Monday in the eastern German city of Chemnitz, where he is believed to have committed similar acts on at least two other occasions, according to a press release from the Rhineland-Pfalz office of criminal investigation. Authorities from the two German states worked together to track down the man after recognizing the similarities in their cases.

The suspect, whose name was not released, was recognized by police on camera footage after he withdrew money at an automatic teller machine, according to media reports.

In April, Kaiserslautern police reported that the man approached a girl at about 3 p.m. near Adolph-Kolping-Platz. Her father heard her scream and ran to her. The father managed to take a picture of the suspect, police said. About three hours later, the suspect was spotted on Mainzerstrasse and an hour later on Rauschenweg. In each case, he made physical contact with children, but the children ran away.

Refugee?

Let's face it - by the time any of these monkeys finally get caught they will already have committed dozens if not hundreds of criminal activities. There are some North Africans running around free in Berlin and other major German cities who have been picked up dozens of times and then were let go mere hours later after being 'questioned'. I consider these types professional criminals who over the course of several years are engaged in literally thousands of illegal acts.

I don't think any of the leftists scum has the slightest idea about the scope of the damage and the cumulative cost on society that each of these animals are inflicting on Germany. Of course nothing is going to change as all ruling parties continue to stick their head in the sand, ignoring mass crime and assaults on Germany's native population. The AfD is the one exception but will not be able to establish a sufficient majority until after 2020.

Let's face it. Germany will never be the same. Sorry Parzival. Only a massive reset would engender the changes necessary to restore the country to its former glory. But there is no political will as the average German appears to be a fucking leftist coward, willing to accept the pillaging of the country and the raping of women of children on a mass scale. Where is the outrage?? Where are the mass demonstrations? More importantly: Where is the skull cracking? Cowards!

You may have noticed that I have contributed less to this thread in recent weeks. In essence I have resigned myself to the fact that Germany is lost and that the country is destined to slowly degrade over the coming decade and gradually convert into some type of Islamic hellhole. Following this process on a daily basis is a major intellectual and emotional drain in particular, which I cannot continue to accept into my life.

So in a nutshell: Fuck Germany. And don't show up asking for help further down the line. Cowards deserve what they have coming.
Menace · 2016-05-19 13:57:00 · #9687
I bet we won't see any change in Germany until Mercedes, BMW, and Porsche are affected.
Bury Zenek · 2016-05-19 15:05:00 · #9688
Or Volkswagen. Hahaha, good observation. Big Grin
Mike5055 · 2016-05-19 16:26:00 · #9689
I assume that, based on those killed by the Syrian conflict in addition to those who are supposedly refugees in Europe, Syria actually has no one left in the country.
RexImperator · 2016-05-19 16:41:00 · #9690
Quote:Original Sufism was diamatrically opposed to the teachings of Mohammed.

I've hear of Sufism described metaphorically as a beautiful room high up in a palace tower built atop a stinking cesspool.
Zelcorpion · 2016-05-20 04:26:00 · #9691
(05-19-2016 04:41 PM)RexImperator Wrote:  
Quote:Original Sufism was diamatrically opposed to the teachings of Mohammed.

I've hear of Sufism described metaphorically as a beautiful room high up in a palace tower built atop a stinking cesspool.

Unfortunately an apt definition. Original Sufis are the Franciscans of Islam. There are many Sufis who have been killed either by more strict followers of Islam or by the power elite, who feared their message of peace and tolerance.

Rumi would not have needed to take up the sword to raise the number of his followers from 150 to 100.000. Franciscus was joined by tens of thousands despite only having his spiritual charisma and his message. Mohammed however needed the sword. 12 years relying on conventional preaching got him 150 followers - mostly his friends and family. 10 years wielding the sword and giving unbelievers the Mafia choice of conversion or death - that boosted his sheeple to 100.000. No wonder he said that he was made victorious through terror.





On a related topic I listened to a short talk of the Manosphere's Judgybitch, who has sometimes interesting content.

She talked there about the research of a scientist and Yale professor that empathy is a bad thing.

Or to be exact the female kind of feelgood-empathy is bad.

http://www.theatlantic.com/video/index/4...bad-thing/

Essentially Paul Bloom argues that there are two kinds of empathy:

1) Feelgood empathy which is based on an instant emotional appeal - mostly female

2) Effective empathy which is based on a desire to improve the other person's position long-term - mostly male perception

Here a few examples of the differences in the empathy approach:

Migrant Crisis:

Women: those poor children, those poor refugees, let them all come in, open all borders
Men: helping all those will destroy our own countries, economies and cultures long-term and some even make the claim that the conflicts will cause even greater bloodshed killing millions. It is better also for the refugees to close the borders, even kill a few to stop this madness and then concentrate efforts to improve their living conditions locally.

Africa hunger:
Women: Let us send food to them and build schools
Men: We are already sending food and most of it is bankrupting their local farmers. It is now cheaper in many African countries to buy frozen European chicken than to pay a local farmer. Also many food deliveries are taken by their cleptocratic elite and never reach the common folk. Instead they sell it locally undercutting even more the farmers. Essentially you export more poverty and economic destruction by your desire to force-feed everyone. A long-term empathic approach would be to invest in their local farms, tell them to close their market to imports and to support better leaders so that the country can again feed itself.

The author also makes the claim that most war is being sold on an emotional level. "Let us oust Saddam, Mubarak, Assad etc., because they are bad men."

Long-term empathic approach: 'So you kill their strongmen, but what takes their place? Will the country be better off afterwards knowing the inherent dangers in those places?'

Of course there are many facets to that and the real reasons for war are different, but they are sold that crap to the common folk, who are utterly feminized and can only perceive the short-term feelgood empathy while being blind to the masculine long-term empathy. And only the long-term view can build a better world.
Parzival · 2016-05-20 05:57:00 · #9692
I agree that there will just a change when the big companies and the economy is hit hard by the consequences of the refugee crisis. Out of the 16 states in Germany, just 3 preform economical strong, some other do ok and the rest is almost failed. Bavaria and Baden Württemberg are the power states in Germany, they are also the most safe ones. As I said, in my area you don't feel any impact from the refugees and the 500 people camp is down now. Germany will split more and more, the areas that are already bad will be worse and people just accept it. They are used to it so much. Furthermore Germans trust in the state and lack action. You don't see protest like in France now, in Greece or something similar. Even the so called super evil neo facist Pegida Demonstrations are peaceful. The violent start from the left wing Antifa that get financial support from the government. You even have cases of manhunt where persons get hunt down just because they are members of the AfD, but do anything happen? Or in Leipzig Antifa attacks a police station. Just imagine when a few Neonazis would hunt down politicians or attack a police station. Complete different reaction.

Germans are in a feel good moment, at least the leaders and many people in the media. Just read an article that Germany lacks the ability to secure the own airports and the military is not able to defend the country nor participate in international task. Nothing new, everything face not only cost reduction even more its the attitude. Police? Military? Hard action? No, we Germans are better now, we are so peaceful and we are moral superior now. We did learn our lesson from Hitler. Fuck you international responsibility or leading of a country. It just matter, that we feel now blessed as good people.

There is a very long article about the mentality that lead to a destructive ability in the military. At the end its a good analysis about the mentality in Germany:

http://www.faz.net/aktuell/politik/deuts...ageIndex_5

Quote:We should ask ourselves, where an alleged conduct and the quasi omnipresent and untimely - because exalted - Peace Love will bring our state and society? Become multibillion dollar business losses, as recently also continue to limit our peaceable orient arms export in the contracts awarded by Australia to France selling submarines? If the desire for peace as a mildew lying on the political structures result soon in a responsible ethical mindsets? Experts and clever consultants with international experience say "No". I agree with him.

Attempting to forecast: The largely peace whorsipping generation is between 50 and 75 years old today. They will govern Germany and still affect nearly 25 years. Meanwhile, life will be more harsh and criminal. Probably numerous closed neighborhoods will arise. Right-wing parties gain more political influence, through to participation in government. Looking at the misery in parts of Africa and the millions who sit on our suitcases will get unexpected scenes on us - at considerable cost to our security institutions. Sustainable change can only be expected with the rise of the young generation. They are harder than us and not as Nazi-sensitive.

An example of the young generation, to set the mood: "Entire industries are handled for a feeling Kick the soothing security and moral superiority. Now the nuclear installations of the neighbors to believe it. Even 70 years after the end of the Nazi war of aggression we are paying the price for past. We should be aware of this. The common main aim be to prevent by deliberate and slow degradation of nonspecific peace extravagance least that parties take over with pretentious chauvinist doctrine of salvation, the government majority in Germany could.
Nemausus · 2016-05-20 10:23:00 · #9693
Hungarian PM, Viktor Orban, talked about George Soros and his connection to to the Clintons and the Migrant Crisis in an interview today.

Quote:Viktor Orbán said in an interview to public Kossuth radio that he approved of the reaction to Bill Clinton’s comments by Polish PiS party leader Jaroslaw Kaczynski, who urged Clinton to “consult a doctor”.

He said that Poland and Hungary, as well as the rest of central Europe, had received negative comments ever since the migrant crisis, and this was no accident. “Namely, we have to see behind the Democratic Party ... George Soros,” he said, referring to the Hungarian-born American financier. Orbán insisted that Soros had urged Europe to take in at least one million Muslims, while Hungary had blocked this US plan hatched by Soros.

Commenting on Bill Clinton, the former US president, Orbán said: “The mouth is Clinton’s; the voice is George Soros’s” Government office chief János Lázár said earlier that Soros’s flagship idea, also advocated by US President Barack Obama, was that migrants should be moved to Europe.

The Hungarian government believes that Soros is an influential supporter of the US Democratic Party and he will make room for his own views at any cost,” he said.

Hungarians and Poles deserve more respect from the current and former leaders of the United States, the prime minister said, blaming George Soros for negativity directed towards Hungary.

Source [PDF]

Clinton crapped all over Poland and Hungary earlier this week while out stumping for the Hag.



hydrogonian · 2016-05-20 10:35:00 · #9694
(05-19-2016 04:41 PM)RexImperator Wrote:  
Quote:Original Sufism was diamatrically opposed to the teachings of Mohammed.

I've hear of Sufism described metaphorically as a beautiful room high up in a palace tower built atop a stinking cesspool.

My impression is that Sufism is a crypto-religion meant to survive inside Islam. That is, it isn't Islam but a gnostic religion that cloaked itself in Islam for the sake of survival.

Whether or not Sufism is beautiful likely depends on your opinion of gnosticism. Some people, like Eric Voegelin, hold it (gnosticism) to be the most subversive of religions due to its apparent utopianism. Though, on its surface, I admit that Sufism seems better than Islam. That being said, Islam likely shares much with other utopian religions and so Sufism and Islam might not be completely separate at their foundations.

There is a chance that Sufism is merely esoteric Islam. That is, people on the outside, in mainstream Islam, view it as a separate alien usurper religion destined for persecution and cleansing. However, it may just be the esoteric inner body of Islam, meant for "elite" practitioners, rather than the aforementioned cloaked alien religion. It's difficult to tell. Islam is esoteric to a degree, and so an inner sanctum priesthood sect would make sense. See the book "Occult Theocracy" by Edith Starr Miller for more details on the nature of Occult structured religions. The text is available on archive.org. A good author on the theology of Sufism is Henry Corbin.
hydrogonian · 2016-05-20 10:47:00 · #9695
(05-20-2016 10:23 AM)Nemausus Wrote:  Clinton crapped all over Poland and Hungary earlier this week while out stumping for the Hag.




These are convenient words from a man whose only offspring married into the conservative part of an ethnicity that enjoys its own ethnic theocracy that unapologetically builds fences to keep out "invaders", and who would not take a single one of the before-neighboring foreigners that Clinton is lamenting Poland and Hungary are trying to refuse.

This is an elite man berating poor nations for doing what he, himself, is associated with.

This is overt oppression. Every word out of his mouth should be heard as "I-am-oppressing-you".

There is no nuance here. There are no excuses. There is only hypocritical open hostility to European nations.
RexImperator · 2016-05-20 19:01:00 · #9696
Orban gave it right back, calling Clinton a shill for Soros:

Quote:“[B]eyond the American campaign, the remarks made about Hungary and Poland… have a political dimension,” Mr. Orban said, accusing Mr. Clinton of repeating Soros-inspired campaign lines: “These are not accidental slips of the tongue. And [the number of] these slips or remarks have been multiplying since we are living in the era of the migrant crisis. And we all know that behind the leaders of the Democratic Party, we have to see George Soros.”

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/05/...n-leaders/
El Chinito loco · 2016-05-20 21:16:00 · #9697
(05-20-2016 10:47 AM)hydrogonian Wrote:  This is an elite man berating poor nations for doing what he, himself, is associated with.

This is overt oppression. Every word out of his mouth should be heard as "I-am-oppressing-you".

There is no nuance here. There are no excuses. There is only hypocritical open hostility to European nations.

Clinton has always been full of shit.

Remember how he flip flopped around Mogadishu and hamstrung the military while U.S. elite forces were being overwhelmed there. He first approved the task force to seek out terrorists and then when things got hot he left a lot of rangers and delta force operators to die by withdrawing support behind the scenes. He basically got a General and the Secretary of defense to both fall on their sword for the whole mess. He's a piece of garbage and a lot of the events surrouding Blackhawk Down rests on Mr. pedojet's shoulders.

Then there was Rwanda and how he danced around calling it a genocide so he wouldn't have to render any aid. There was no reason to render aid because there were no corporate or political interests in that country.

Then of course the repealing of the Glass-Steagall act which created the conditions that led to the 2008 crisis and the U.S. banking system collapse which has created a dire economic situation still fucked up to this day and is rife with corruption from the fed. Now in the present day you have a situation where the fed is inflating equities into a massive bubble.
All or Nothing · 2016-05-20 23:59:00 · #9698
(05-20-2016 10:47 AM)hydrogonian Wrote:  These are convenient words from a man whose only offspring married into the conservative part of an ethnicity that enjoys its own ethnic theocracy that unapologetically builds fences to keep out "invaders", and who would not take a single one of the before-neighboring foreigners that Clinton is lamenting Poland and Hungary are trying to refuse.

This is an elite man berating poor nations for doing what he, himself, is associated with.

This is overt oppression. Every word out of his mouth should be heard as "I-am-oppressing-you".

There is no nuance here. There are no excuses. There is only hypocritical open hostility to European nations.

It also perfectly represent why we must vote for Trump. Christian lives, Christian identity and Christian interests matter too.

Using the language of the oppressors, if you do not think Christian interests matter, you are an anti-Christian bigot who needs to develop empathy for those who are different from you.
Belgrano · 2016-05-21 05:42:00 · #9699
Great news everyone!

Quote:Turkey doesn't allow highly qualified refugees to leave the country for the EU

According to recent reports, Turkey doesn't allow highly qualified Syrian refugees to travel further on to the EU. The German newspaper "Spiegel" reports that multiple European national governments have criticized that amongst the candidates for resettlement via the EU-Turkey refugee agreement there's a striking amount of "hard-luck cases".
During an internal meeting the representative of Luxembourg mentioned that the candidates proposed by Turkey are noticeably and obviously "cases in need of serious medical treatment or refugees of exceptionally low education". The German state secretary for interior affairs, Ole Schröder, reported similar findings to the German parliament.

According to statements from Germany, the Netherlands and Luxembourg, the Turkish authorities have withdrawn exit visas for certain refugees scheduled to leave for the EU numerous times during the last few weeks.
Those refugees are said to be well educated engineers, doctors and skilled tradesmen.

In the meantime Turkey officially declared to the UNHCR that Syrian academics and intellectuals are not allowed to leave the country anymore.
In the EU-Turkey agreement Turkey insisted and succeeded with adding a clause stating that they would be in charge of deciding which Syrians are allowed to leave for resettlement in the EU, instead of having the UNHCR pick them, which is the usual due process.

Meanwhile the German chancellor Angela Merkel, looking at the millions of refugees caused by the Syrian civil war, explicitly praised Turkey: "By accepting three million Syrian refugees, Turkey has shown that they not only talk about humanitarian help, but also go through with it."

She didn't discuss recent accusations of human rights violations, violence against refugees or the oppressive measures against opposition politicians in Turkey.

Merkel will meet Erdogan at the UN summit for humanitarian help on Monday in Istanbul. German politicians of various parties have spoken out to suggest Merkel should meet with Turkish opposition representatives. She avoided doing this on previous visits to Turkey.
(Translation by me.)

Well, I guess nobody could have seen that coming!
Are the Turkish, especially Erdogan and his government, not famous for their integrity and honesty?
I'm shocked, like, totally.

Laugh7



As I said countless times before, and so have others in this thread, it's either severe retardation or pure evil that's guiding Merkel and her cronies.

Remember how Trump's enemies always whine about moving to Canada if he becomes POTUS?
In a similar way I'll be returning to Asia, moving to Russia or the future American Empire if there's no drastic changes being made around here, and soon.
Don't worry, I read the discussion a few days ago here about the pros and cons of emigrating to other parts of the world, but honestly, I'd rather be a stranger in a strange land, than endure being a stranger in my own land.
El Chinito loco · 2016-05-21 11:48:00 · #9700
Classic fuck you move by a shitty turd of a dictator (Erdogan) by exporting all the criminals (ie. terrorists), low education, and low IQ islamist types to the west while hand selecting all the people of some value to keep inside the country so they can benefit off their expertise through exploitative labor arrangements.

Turkey is never to be trusted with anything. They are known to fuck any nations that have dealings with them unless they claim turkic identity. This is how they have operated throughout history. The fact that Turkey now controls the spigot that may crumble western European civilization is just laughable. Western europe should be threatening punitive military action not appeasing this asshole with gifts and rewards. Merkel will go down in history as a huge joke and facilitator of the downfall.

The "refugee" crisis in europe is Mariel boat lift 3.0. (Mariel boat lift 2.0 is the ongoing mexican infiltration of the U.S.)
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