(05-01-2016 11:24 AM)Andre Wrote:(04-30-2016 01:16 PM)AlphaPrimate22 Wrote: As far as bios go.
- Tried being 100% honest
- Tried no bio
-Tried short bio
-Tried a wierd bio
-Tried a serious bio
-Tried some witty bio
I have no clue what these girls want in a guy. I got matched to fat girls and ugly ass girls. Total waste of time. It is finals week and I won't be in town after this but I'll be back in June to re-start my game experience. Never took summer classes.
I agree with your points regarding the girls who say they are not there for hookups.
How did the different bios work out for you though? I'm quite curious, since I've tried some different ones myself, but what's been most successful for you?
(05-01-2016 11:31 AM)Andre Wrote: Have you guys tried the google chrome addon called flamite?
It lets you see all the pictures of the girl instantly and you can write to them on the computer instead. I find it very useful. Here is a screenshot to show the idea.
I am in no way affiliated with this addon, but I think a lot of RVFers would like it.
(05-01-2016 03:26 PM)AlphaPrimate22 Wrote:(05-01-2016 11:24 AM)Andre Wrote:(04-30-2016 01:16 PM)AlphaPrimate22 Wrote: As far as bios go.
- Tried being 100% honest
- Tried no bio
-Tried short bio
-Tried a wierd bio
-Tried a serious bio
-Tried some witty bio
I have no clue what these girls want in a guy. I got matched to fat girls and ugly ass girls. Total waste of time. It is finals week and I won't be in town after this but I'll be back in June to re-start my game experience. Never took summer classes.
I agree with your points regarding the girls who say they are not there for hookups.
How did the different bios work out for you though? I'm quite curious, since I've tried some different ones myself, but what's been most successful for you?
So in a college setting like mine, here is what I have concluded that WORKS. I am currently talking to three girls. One, I am texting now, and she seems pretty interested. The other two: One I am experimenting conversational tactics that work for myself and is ugly, the other I am taking it cool, light, and easy.
Keep in mind this is for a southern college.
-Put your bio that you like these: fishing, camping, hiking, climbing, and reading. Also put 4/20 friendly. That is what my bio currently says. I also added info like my hometown and that I am now studying at X university. Even if YOU DONT do any of the above, notice what most girls put in their bio that can be unisex. Tinder's formula will show you on their profile, and these hotter non-sorority chicks will be attracted. Who cares if you really don't hike? The goal is for them to take the bait. Of course, a good profile photo is essential as well. These in conjunction help get more, non-flaky matches and put me out as a cool, interesting guy.
-Dont be afraid of selfies. I noticed I was placing a double standard as man on myself. I noticed some cute girls who I liked had selfies and not professional photos. Furthermore, why go out and get good photos when they the females are not doing so? Its OK to do so, and your chances will increase, but in the meantime, its to get some good angled selfies.
-KEEP THE MAJORITY of your photos NOT SELFIES. One to two selfies is enough. This shows the girl you look like what you look without preparation or time to get ready.
-Say "Hey." I'm talking to three girls now. No need for bio observations.
A simple, "hey." filters out girls who are willing to talk to you and not waste time. I decided that it's the best thing so far. So many guys try to act cool and interesting, the women on campus probably know that tinder secrets that these so called tip websites put out. Furthermore, if you value yourself more than her, no need to go out of your wa to seem interesting. Good photo, good interesting bio, and a simple hey. If she does not respond within two to three days, she is a goner. However, these 3/4 matches have all responded to "hey."
As far as the number close goes, your goal as a man is to get her off tinder and ON the phone. I won't go into details, but that is what you should aim. Plenty of info here on how to escalate to the change.
Roosh's Text Advice
-if she takes 20 min to respond, take 20 minutes. Eye for an eye.
-if she sends three messages back to back, send one of the same length. some may disagree here, but the goal is to show the cup is not half empty, and if she does leave it, so do you.
-one word replies deserve one word replies
My observations when a really hot chick texts me back or responds
-Be calm
-Read and understand the message
-Show some level of interest, engage
"I just got done reading this book." Me: "That's cool. What was is about?"
Her: "mind bending."
Me: Oh, that's really interesting!
Her: Yeah, and wyd?
Me: I am relaxing. I spend today with the family eating lunch and exploring the city.
Her: That's cool. etc etc.
I usually don't escalate to sexual flirts until I have known the girl for a few days. This singles you out from most guys who come off creepy.
If you are not in a fraternity, swipe left to all sorority chicks. DO NOT WASTE TIME. They will not swipe right. These girls are wholesome pretenders/erotic hypocrites. They portray a wholesome, prude attitude, but target men who are betas (frat guys/ugly frat guys with money). They will put out for alpha men behind closed doors on their beta husbands later in life. DO NOT WASTE TIME ON sorority chicks. Unless you are in Greek Life. This is my conclusion. It may be different for you if your school is NOT based around Greek Life socially.
The girls in my campus I noticed who AREN'T STUCK UP SORORITY BITCHES, for the most part had the following in their bio: hiking, climbing, adventures, traveling, exploring the city, 4/20 friendly.
To wrap it up: for your bio, notice what girls you like, what they put in their bios that can be unisex as a hobby, and copy. It doesn't matter if you dont read, go hiking, or fishing. And update your likes on Facebook. It's helped me find women who like the same music, athletes, shows, etc.. This helps with Tinder's formula.
And above all: Do not do what I did which was create a fake profile with a fake name but with your photos. I re-activated my old Facebook, linked it to Tinder, updated my likes on Facebook, and changed my bio to something similar as chicks here. And I also added some good selfies to my collection.
Just some tips for college Tinder users....Good luck.
(05-01-2016 03:26 PM)AlphaPrimate22 Wrote: So in a college setting like mine, here is what I have concluded that WORKS. I am currently talking to three girls. One, I am texting now, and she seems pretty interested. The other two: One I am experimenting conversational tactics that work for myself and is ugly, the other I am taking it cool, light, and easy.
Keep in mind this is for a southern college.
-Put your bio that you like these: fishing, camping, hiking, climbing, and reading. Also put 4/20 friendly. That is what my bio currently says. I also added info like my hometown and that I am now studying at X university. Even if YOU DONT do any of the above, notice what most girls put in their bio that can be unisex. Tinder's formula will show you on their profile, and these hotter non-sorority chicks will be attracted. Who cares if you really don't hike? The goal is for them to take the bait.
A simple, "hey." filters out girls who are willing to talk to you and not waste time. I decided that it's the best thing so far. So many guys try to act cool and interesting, the women on campus probably know that tinder secrets that these so called tip websites put out. Furthermore, if you value yourself more than her, no need to go out of your wa to seem interesting. Good photo, good interesting bio, and a simple hey. If she does not respond within two to three days, she is a goner. However, these 3/4 matches have all responded to "hey."
As far as the number close goes, your goal as a man is to get her off tinder and ON the phone. I won't go into details, but that is what you should aim. Plenty of info here on how to escalate to the change.
Roosh's Text Advice
-if she takes 20 min to respond, take 20 minutes. Eye for an eye.
-if she sends three messages back to back, send one of the same length. some may disagree here, but the goal is to show the cup is not half empty, and if she does leave it, so do you.
-one word replies deserve one word replies
My observations when a really hot chick texts me back or responds
-Be calm
-Read and understand the message
-Show some level of interest, engage
"I just got done reading this book." Me: "That's cool. What was is about?"
Her: "mind bending."
Me: Oh, that's really interesting!
Her: Yeah, and wyd?
Me: I am relaxing. I spend today with the family eating lunch and exploring the city.
Her: That's cool. etc etc.
I usually don't escalate to sexual flirts until I have known the girl for a few days. This singles you out from most guys who come off creepy.
If you are not in a fraternity, swipe left to all sorority chicks. DO NOT WASTE TIME. They will not swipe right. These girls are wholesome pretenders/erotic hypocrites. They portray a wholesome, prude attitude, but target men who are betas (frat guys/ugly frat guys with money). They will put out for alpha men behind closed doors on their beta husbands later in life. DO NOT WASTE TIME ON sorority chicks. Unless you are in Greek Life. This is my conclusion. It may be different for you if your school is NOT based around Greek Life socially.
The girls in my campus I noticed who AREN'T STUCK UP SORORITY BITCHES, for the most part had the following in their bio: hiking, climbing, adventures, traveling, exploring the city, 4/20 friendly.
To wrap it up: for your bio, notice what girls you like, what they put in their bios that can be unisex as a hobby, and copy. It doesn't matter if you dont read, go hiking, or fishing. And update your likes on Facebook. It's helped me find women who like the same music, athletes, shows, etc.. This helps with Tinder's formula.
And above all: Do not do what I did which was create a fake profile with a fake name but with your photos. I re-activated my old Facebook, linked it to Tinder, updated my likes on Facebook, and changed my bio to something similar as chicks here. And I also added some good selfies to my collection.
Just some tips for college Tinder users....Good luck.
(05-03-2016 07:46 AM)Putin Closes Wrote:(05-01-2016 03:26 PM)AlphaPrimate22 Wrote:(05-01-2016 11:24 AM)Andre Wrote:(04-30-2016 01:16 PM)AlphaPrimate22 Wrote: As far as bios go.
- Tried being 100% honest
- Tried no bio
-Tried short bio
-Tried a wierd bio
-Tried a serious bio
-Tried some witty bio
I have no clue what these girls want in a guy. I got matched to fat girls and ugly ass girls. Total waste of time. It is finals week and I won't be in town after this but I'll be back in June to re-start my game experience. Never took summer classes.
I agree with your points regarding the girls who say they are not there for hookups.
How did the different bios work out for you though? I'm quite curious, since I've tried some different ones myself, but what's been most successful for you?
So in a college setting like mine, here is what I have concluded that WORKS. I am currently talking to three girls. One, I am texting now, and she seems pretty interested. The other two: One I am experimenting conversational tactics that work for myself and is ugly, the other I am taking it cool, light, and easy.
Keep in mind this is for a southern college.
-Put your bio that you like these: fishing, camping, hiking, climbing, and reading. Also put 4/20 friendly. That is what my bio currently says. I also added info like my hometown and that I am now studying at X university. Even if YOU DONT do any of the above, notice what most girls put in their bio that can be unisex. Tinder's formula will show you on their profile, and these hotter non-sorority chicks will be attracted. Who cares if you really don't hike? The goal is for them to take the bait. Of course, a good profile photo is essential as well. These in conjunction help get more, non-flaky matches and put me out as a cool, interesting guy.
-Dont be afraid of selfies. I noticed I was placing a double standard as man on myself. I noticed some cute girls who I liked had selfies and not professional photos. Furthermore, why go out and get good photos when they the females are not doing so? Its OK to do so, and your chances will increase, but in the meantime, its to get some good angled selfies.
-KEEP THE MAJORITY of your photos NOT SELFIES. One to two selfies is enough. This shows the girl you look like what you look without preparation or time to get ready.
-Say "Hey." I'm talking to three girls now. No need for bio observations.
A simple, "hey." filters out girls who are willing to talk to you and not waste time. I decided that it's the best thing so far. So many guys try to act cool and interesting, the women on campus probably know that tinder secrets that these so called tip websites put out. Furthermore, if you value yourself more than her, no need to go out of your wa to seem interesting. Good photo, good interesting bio, and a simple hey. If she does not respond within two to three days, she is a goner. However, these 3/4 matches have all responded to "hey."
As far as the number close goes, your goal as a man is to get her off tinder and ON the phone. I won't go into details, but that is what you should aim. Plenty of info here on how to escalate to the change.
Roosh's Text Advice
-if she takes 20 min to respond, take 20 minutes. Eye for an eye.
-if she sends three messages back to back, send one of the same length. some may disagree here, but the goal is to show the cup is not half empty, and if she does leave it, so do you.
-one word replies deserve one word replies
My observations when a really hot chick texts me back or responds
-Be calm
-Read and understand the message
-Show some level of interest, engage
"I just got done reading this book." Me: "That's cool. What was is about?"
Her: "mind bending."
Me: Oh, that's really interesting!
Her: Yeah, and wyd?
Me: I am relaxing. I spend today with the family eating lunch and exploring the city.
Her: That's cool. etc etc.
I usually don't escalate to sexual flirts until I have known the girl for a few days. This singles you out from most guys who come off creepy.
If you are not in a fraternity, swipe left to all sorority chicks. DO NOT WASTE TIME. They will not swipe right. These girls are wholesome pretenders/erotic hypocrites. They portray a wholesome, prude attitude, but target men who are betas (frat guys/ugly frat guys with money). They will put out for alpha men behind closed doors on their beta husbands later in life. DO NOT WASTE TIME ON sorority chicks. Unless you are in Greek Life. This is my conclusion. It may be different for you if your school is NOT based around Greek Life socially.
The girls in my campus I noticed who AREN'T STUCK UP SORORITY BITCHES, for the most part had the following in their bio: hiking, climbing, adventures, traveling, exploring the city, 4/20 friendly.
To wrap it up: for your bio, notice what girls you like, what they put in their bios that can be unisex as a hobby, and copy. It doesn't matter if you dont read, go hiking, or fishing. And update your likes on Facebook. It's helped me find women who like the same music, athletes, shows, etc.. This helps with Tinder's formula.
And above all: Do not do what I did which was create a fake profile with a fake name but with your photos. I re-activated my old Facebook, linked it to Tinder, updated my likes on Facebook, and changed my bio to something similar as chicks here. And I also added some good selfies to my collection.
Just some tips for college Tinder users....Good luck.
Man I feel like an old fart now. Back in the day was crashing random house parties as a freshman via Facebook events, then joined the greek life, where pretty much of all my bangs came from drunk hookups.
I believe the old school way is still the optimal way in college, save tinder for when you're in the big city and don't have that much time.
(05-03-2016 07:58 AM)Andre Wrote:(05-01-2016 03:26 PM)AlphaPrimate22 Wrote: So in a college setting like mine, here is what I have concluded that WORKS. I am currently talking to three girls. One, I am texting now, and she seems pretty interested. The other two: One I am experimenting conversational tactics that work for myself and is ugly, the other I am taking it cool, light, and easy.
Keep in mind this is for a southern college.
-Put your bio that you like these: fishing, camping, hiking, climbing, and reading. Also put 4/20 friendly. That is what my bio currently says. I also added info like my hometown and that I am now studying at X university. Even if YOU DONT do any of the above, notice what most girls put in their bio that can be unisex. Tinder's formula will show you on their profile, and these hotter non-sorority chicks will be attracted. Who cares if you really don't hike? The goal is for them to take the bait.
A simple, "hey." filters out girls who are willing to talk to you and not waste time. I decided that it's the best thing so far. So many guys try to act cool and interesting, the women on campus probably know that tinder secrets that these so called tip websites put out. Furthermore, if you value yourself more than her, no need to go out of your wa to seem interesting. Good photo, good interesting bio, and a simple hey. If she does not respond within two to three days, she is a goner. However, these 3/4 matches have all responded to "hey."
As far as the number close goes, your goal as a man is to get her off tinder and ON the phone. I won't go into details, but that is what you should aim. Plenty of info here on how to escalate to the change.
Roosh's Text Advice
-if she takes 20 min to respond, take 20 minutes. Eye for an eye.
-if she sends three messages back to back, send one of the same length. some may disagree here, but the goal is to show the cup is not half empty, and if she does leave it, so do you.
-one word replies deserve one word replies
My observations when a really hot chick texts me back or responds
-Be calm
-Read and understand the message
-Show some level of interest, engage
"I just got done reading this book." Me: "That's cool. What was is about?"
Her: "mind bending."
Me: Oh, that's really interesting!
Her: Yeah, and wyd?
Me: I am relaxing. I spend today with the family eating lunch and exploring the city.
Her: That's cool. etc etc.
I usually don't escalate to sexual flirts until I have known the girl for a few days. This singles you out from most guys who come off creepy.
If you are not in a fraternity, swipe left to all sorority chicks. DO NOT WASTE TIME. They will not swipe right. These girls are wholesome pretenders/erotic hypocrites. They portray a wholesome, prude attitude, but target men who are betas (frat guys/ugly frat guys with money). They will put out for alpha men behind closed doors on their beta husbands later in life. DO NOT WASTE TIME ON sorority chicks. Unless you are in Greek Life. This is my conclusion. It may be different for you if your school is NOT based around Greek Life socially.
The girls in my campus I noticed who AREN'T STUCK UP SORORITY BITCHES, for the most part had the following in their bio: hiking, climbing, adventures, traveling, exploring the city, 4/20 friendly.
To wrap it up: for your bio, notice what girls you like, what they put in their bios that can be unisex as a hobby, and copy. It doesn't matter if you dont read, go hiking, or fishing. And update your likes on Facebook. It's helped me find women who like the same music, athletes, shows, etc.. This helps with Tinder's formula.
And above all: Do not do what I did which was create a fake profile with a fake name but with your photos. I re-activated my old Facebook, linked it to Tinder, updated my likes on Facebook, and changed my bio to something similar as chicks here. And I also added some good selfies to my collection.
Just some tips for college Tinder users....Good luck.
I appreciate the effort you put into your post. I must say that I was only curious about your BIO however, since you stated that you had experimented with so many different types. As for the photos and texting, I agree with some parts of it and disagree with other parts. I am pretty confident in my online game and was only looking for your perspective on the bio.
I prefer something else than your tips for the bio, I think you come of as very generic and especially if your only opener is hi. There is of course no magic opener, but based on those tips I think you seem boring to girls on tinder. Which also might explain why you are only talking to three girls.
It also seems to me that you are hating girls too much, especially sorority girls, makes me think you had a bad experience with a one or two of that type and then exclude them from your target types now. Girls are a source of pleasure, no matter how irrational they act, I do love them. Disregard basic bitches, but there are always exceptions, do not disregard sorority girls as a whole.
This is not an attack on you in any way, I just disagree with your approach. However, if it works for you, go for it. I mean, whatever floats your boat.
(05-04-2016 07:35 PM)goonies Wrote: I've been getting a string of ghosting conversations lately. Her responses will actually be decent and more than 1 sentence responses. Then poof! Shit is annoying af
(05-04-2016 04:57 PM)zatara Wrote: I'm not sure where you are in the U.S. AlphaPrimate22 but my experience across most of the Midwest and South was sorority girls are generally the hottest girls on campus. And relatively easy to hook up with, if you've got the right game for them. I wouldn't be half as quick to write them all off as "stuck up bitches". You'd probably be a lot better off just re-calibrating your game around them. Look preppy and act confident and they'll eat it up.
Generic openers like 'hey' are also generally shown to have the worst response rate on Tinder when people do sampling. If you look back through this thread (I know its rather long) or do some Googling you'll get results where guys created fake profiles, tried messaging hundreds of girls with different openers, noted the results etc. The statistically most reliable opener for hooking interest was generally commenting on something unique in a girl's photos to pique her interest. Girls get tens of generic "Hey" messages a day generally, so it won't stand out.
(05-04-2016 08:53 PM)John Michael Kane Wrote:(05-04-2016 07:35 PM)goonies Wrote: I've been getting a string of ghosting conversations lately. Her responses will actually be decent and more than 1 sentence responses. Then poof! Shit is annoying af
That's because these kinds of apps are 2-1 male:
http://mic.com/articles/110774/two-third....XCxI0RTJ1
There's simply too many men around, making it all too easy for women to get distracted. It is just like if you go on dateonasia.com as a relatively young white guy, you can message 100's of girls in the Philippines and Thailand and get the same amount of responses as a decently attractive girl in the USA would get on Tinder.
(05-04-2016 10:20 PM)Putin Closes Wrote: Tinder can be a gamble for both men and women, but men may benefit most from playing the numbers. The dating app sees more than 1 billion profile swipes a day, but only 12 million of those turn into matches.
A match rate of around 1%. And thats with lots of guys just using auto likers. Wow.
It seems like if your not in someone's age range, you'll have to burn a super like to pop up on their side.
(05-04-2016 10:32 PM)Balkan Wrote: No offense AlphaPrimate but what you're saying comes off pretty uncalibrated. If your intent was to use an apocalypse opener, which I'm not sure it even was, use something like this. Also, unless you have modelesque photos, you need to dampen your expectations. Very rarely will you find above average girls openly say they're DTF and actually follow through via tinder/other apps. The majority of the matches that would fuck you, wouldn't respond well to that request. And if they do, they're probably attention whoring and won't meet you. I understand using that as a filter but you're fishing with a small net. It's similar to having a girl interested in you at a bar. Do you say "let's go back to my place and fuck" or do you weave in some plausible deniability (they still know what's about to go down) and say "let's go check out those pictures I took in the Peruvian Amazon, I told you about earlier. But don't get any ideas, I have to wake up early tomorrow". Regardless, tinder is going down the shitter, so getting off it will probably give you motivation to approach in real life.