Post: #3401

Sad story indeed for the (ex) virgin (very probably naive and dreaming) Filipina (from Tagig I gather)... she lost her (precious, given her likely socio-economic reality) virginity to a (to say the least) very ruthless player, and still hopes, against all odds, that he will marry her and bring her and her family happiness. The way she keeps, very Filipina-like, telling you "don't forget to eat your dinner", is so telling. It comes from people who experienced and understand real poverty, and dream of a foreigner saving them (saving them from fuckin hunger, it's not a joke)...

That's the fundamental difference between Icelandic women and Filipinas: icelandic women can do whatever they want of their lives, no repercussions, life is just fun and carousel rides. On the other hand, Filipinas like that, (probably) very impoverished, have to receive the treatment you gave her, and still send you nice SMS in the delusional hope you'll marry her.

To sum it up, what you did has been done on the most vulnerable woman possible, a (probably real poor, defenseless, probably genuinely naive) Filipina.

If you don't have any pity for Filipinas, who (the majority of them) face the very real and daily prospect of hunger and dirt-poor poverty, then it's bad karm, OP.

I mean, I wouldn't "white-knight" for Icelandic spoiled first-world princesses, but, a fighting-everyday-to-survive Filipina... it's different.

Post: #3402

(04-13-2016 10:39 AM)thoughtgypsy Wrote:  

(04-13-2016 10:14 AM)Vice Wrote:  ^you sound just like those SJWs

Vice, and I'm being dead serious here, if you just forcefully deflowered a girl and she started crying, would you continue to try fucking her?

I wouldn't forcefully deflower a girl in the first place. Or forcefully do anything, for that matter.

If you actually read what I posted, all I said was: His native language isn't English so I'll give him a break this one time. That's all I said... Especially if the chick keeps in contact with him. In my opinion, if someone truly hurt a girl then she'd go ghost on him at the very least. If your experience is different then let's just agree to disagree here.

No need to twist my words.

I wrote what I wrote after Alex3000 the keyboard warrior started the whole "I'll beat your ass brah" shit.

Not backpedaling, I still stand by my analysis.

Post: #3403

English not being his first language isn't the issue. It is clear what he conveyed here. This whole thing makes me sick.

This poor girl will probably become a jaded bitch and/or carousel rider sooner than we think. From the sound of it, she could potentially have made a good wife and mother since she kept her virginity all the way to age 21, evidence of strong parenthood and family values, while more than half of her peers are popping out babies daily.

Instead of her marrying and having a happy family with kids who will grow up to be good men or good women that this world needs more of, yet another woman has been damaged or broken... and she will likely carry it through the rest of her life. What a waste, thanks to Kabuli's disgraceful actions that he had the gall to post on the internet.

Not cool.

PS. If I sound like I'm being melodramatic, perhaps I am because I want to drive the point I am making across your computer screens.

Post: #3404

I never thought I would take this position, because, as we know, men in the west are convicted on false rape accusations mob justice style. White knighting is through the roof, not just among normal men but through the media, the government, the legal system. It's alien to me to ever believe some story was "rape" or "sexual assault" when these words are thrown about to describe the most innocuous of things or "feelings" that the woman had about her experience with a man given precedence over what actually happened.

Kabul, from that account, seems to be either a sociopath or have some kind of autistic spectrum shit going on, or both.

Standard rules of escalation, if a woman won't let you put your hands down her pants, then you take a step back, turn her on a bit more and try again. If she doesn't want it, she will lightly brush you off and I respect that as her position at that point in time. I try again a few times, but after a few attempts you either know whether it was token resistance or an actual no/not yet/not tonight etc. Some girls may slip through the net but if it's token resistance you don't even need to be physically forceful - you try to touch wherever and she lightly brushes your hand away, and you carry on making out or whatever you were doing. Every attempt to escalate whatever stage you're at, there is no harm being done because if she says or implies no at that point then you just take a step back. What you do NOT do, especially if you have just met her, is literally pin her down with physical force to overcome resistance. If you've had sex already or are a couple and you like to do the whole domination/submissive thing, fine, and you can both enjoy it. But to force yourself on a virgin like that? Let's just say men in the UK/US have been locked away for nothing more than consensual drunk sex. Kabul got a pass here, a major pass. If that happened in the UK/US he would catch a case.

What is more sad is that the girl is apologizing for the blood, doing cleaning, and still wants to see him. I believe this is backwards rationalization to protect herself. If she tells herself that she is in love with him and wasn't just deflowered by force and then dumped, she can feel OK with losing her virginity. If she realizes that he took it by mere force and doesn't give a shit about her, then she would likely feel quite bad about the situation.

The stuff in Bang Iceland if true seems to be about drunk club sluts Roosh had already banged anyway. I don't feel anything here or there about the stuff in Bang Iceland. Girls go out, get hammered, have drunk sex with guys in the early hours. That's life over there, and you can share the crazy stories with your friends, adding a little bravado as men do in conversations about banging women, which is the style Roosh employs in his banging books.

What Kabul wrote on the other hand was just cold. I don't think this forum should stand for that shit. Even if he is given the benefit of the doubt and is seen as autistic rather than just a pure cold sociopath, tell me this: Why is there so much content written by Roosh, RoK, and members of the forum, about picking up women, if you can just instead pin them down and take it by force? How much game did the Cologne migrant rapists really need to have? Stories by retards/autistics like this are the kind of shit the MSM would love to paint this entire community as advocates for.

I know women have their flaws, and game can be brutal sometimes. But there are still tons of beautiful, feminine women out there not just to bang once, but to have relationships with. Personally I find that far more rewarding than just one bang, even if it's a great one and she is very much into it. Apart from the moral and legal issue, I just can't see the appeal in what Kabul did. A big part of great sex and great relationships for me is mutual passion. Those who have been to a prostitute will know how completely different it is to sex in a real, passionate relationship. Unless you're very lucky and get one who for whatever reason is into you or is just crazy about sex with anyone, the experience with prostitutes is shit, a lot of it because she actually doesn't want to do it, but she allows it because she has been paid for it. There is no feeling there. It's either negative or neutral, unless you try to and successfully "shore" them. The experience is cold and nothing, while sex with a girl who is crazy about you is wonderful in comparison.

What Kabul wrote though is even worse than the cold emptiness of going to a prostitute. Deflowering by force and her apologizing for the blood? That shit's fucked up. Sure there are many more morally repugnant actions being committed all over the world right now, but if I had done that shit I would feel a considerable amount of guilt.

The best Kabul can do is sincerely apologize and give some sort of reparations, a mixture of money, if she is dirt poor, and making her feel better about the situation. Taking her out, caring for her, and other stuff non-sociopaths would do if they had taken some kind of drugs that made them forget how to properly escalate to the point where they did what Kabul did.

This kind of cold action ruins things for genuine men on the ground. People already have suspicions about male tourists in various parts of the world based on the actions of a few idiots, or in EE the actions of UK men during 2-3 day stag parties.

This is not what this forum stands for. Furthermore the media would love to jump on shit like this.

Post: #3405

K,
What you did is disturbing and you should be ashamed of yourself. You're a grown ass man, not some uncivilized savage baboon, are you? Or maybe the legendary thirst among Indians from the motherland is true afterall, hey?

It's not about white knighting a sweet girl, it's about being a human being and having decency. Your actions through your posts clearly show that you are sorely and painfully lacking in both. That kind of person is not desired nor welcome here. You do not belong in here. As a matter of fact, you do not belong anywhere outside of India!

Please go back asap and never leave! It's guys, or rather, imbeciles and illiterate savages like you who are giving a bad rep to your race and tainting the pool so to speak with your uncivilised action.

Look in the mirror and ask yourself honestly whether what you did to that poor and sweet girl was right. If you have any ounce of decency and honor, then you will realize you royally fucked up.

I will leave you with a parting advice:
Keep a very low profile, be very careful. If anything were to happen to you, you can't say you didn't deserve it. And GTFO out of the Philippines, asap, burn your passport and never leave India again! Until you grow up and learn some manners as a civilsed human being.

Post: #3406

It doesn't matter what her behavior is after the act either. The girl is probably poor and has to try to do what she can to find someone to take care of her. It's not like she is a western girl and has other options. I am starting to dislike this forum. I am all for game and getting better with women, but this is just straight up being a predator and a creep.

Post: #3407

(04-13-2016 08:29 AM)Vice Wrote:  To all of you wishing violence on this guy --

So if the (formerly) virgin girl keeps in contact with him and continues to hang out with him, what would you say then? Still call him a rapist? Still say he deserves a beating?

His language is harsh but I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt as English isn't his native language.

Sad to see how quick you people are to take up the pitchforks.

I think you deserve a beating also.

Post: #3408

[quote='ChickenLover9T9' pid='1276222' dateline='1460564001']

The best Kabul can do is sincerely apologize and give some sort of reparations, a mixture of money, if she is dirt poor, and making her feel better about the situation. Taking her out, caring for her, and other stuff non-sociopaths would do if they had taken some kind of drugs that made them forget how to properly escalate to the point where they did what Kabul did.



This is a nice sentiment but unrealistic given what we know about this guy. I doubt he has any remorse. People are who they are. Ban this guy and let's get back to the business of game, travel and lifestyle.

Post: #3409

Guys I think I do have writing problems. i just re read my post and there are many things that I should have mentioned to make it seem the way it actually happened. I say this again I am not a sociopath and very aware of girl's right. But please don't play the race card. It has nothing to do with me being an Indian.
Anyways here are few things that happened which I took as green light and which encouraged me to escalate and not give up. Honestly when she told me that she's a virgin i wanted to get rid of her but there were good signs all over:
1. The moment she met me she keeps complimenting my looks.
2. She comes straight to my room.
3. She tells me she doesn't like filipino men and they think that she is a lesbian " one of the boys"
4. She is from filipinocupid actively look for a foreign guy.
5. I tell her to leave my room and dress up. But she doesn't leave.
6. She tells me that she will kiss me once. But we kiss non stop for an hour. She is moaning, hugging me, holding my back and moaning my name loudly.
7. I was totally naked while she was only wearing her jeans.
8. I hold her hand and put it on my cock. She likes it. She strokes it for a good 10 mins. says that how big it is.
9. I didn't exactly follow her to the bathroom. Rather we go together while I hod her back.
10. In the bathroom I push her down and put my cock in her mouth. she takes it and tries to actually blow it.
11. I can't remove her belt and I ask her to remove it which she actually did. This was the biggest greenlight for me. She herself removed the belt and helped me unbutton the jeans.
12. I rubbed the pussy before inserting my finger. She is soaking wet and there is no longer any sort of resistance.
I should have been more insightful earlier. As you can already see that post is very long and I was tired of typing and didn't mention every single detail but now I regret it.

Post: #3410

(04-13-2016 11:13 AM)Doodle23 Wrote:  It doesn't matter what her behavior is after the act either. The girl is probably poor and has to try to do what she can to find someone to take care of her. It's not like she is a western girl and has other options. I am starting to dislike this forum. I am all for game and getting better with women, but this is just straight up being a predator and a creep.

The forum doesn't condone this type of thing in any way.

This piece of shit and his buddies defending him won't last around her very long and I hope they run into some RVF guys over in Phils.

Post: #3411

(04-13-2016 07:18 AM)Kabuli Wrote:  Guys beware of a whiteknight on the forum named Alex3000. He's is threatening to find and beat me. I'm copy pasting his Pm to me:


"You better watch yourself you Indian scumbag. I know you're in Makati, I'll find you you rapist piece of shit.

There's not many Indian scum around this place, word will get around about you, there's no rules here. Watch your back."

The virgin girl is in love with me. I'm in contact with her and will meet her. The girl came straight to my room. We made out for an hour before I became aggressive and I think it's ok because this is how virgins act. They want to be led. I don't understand why this guy is pissed. How is that rape?

I laughed because i'm not believing any of this.

It's just too convenient as rage porn for this forum.

You claim to be indian. Automatic hilarity and built in assumptions here.

You made multiple posts claiming basic incompetence when it comes to trip planning. Just to edge up the annoyance factor.

You posted some single paragraph sex story of face fucking some virgin and finger banging her down on the bed until she let you bang her.

It's all done to elicit maximum rage. I don't buy it.

There's plenty of foreign scumbags in the Philippines but this sounds more like perv wank fiction to me.

Post: #3412

This kabuli guy wrote with so much detail. I am not trying to push out some BS I saw on some crime show, but he sounded like he really enjoyed the fuck out of it by typing out every little detail.

Clearly fucked in the head somehow. Either he is trying to prove what a man he is (clearly not one I would want to meet nor do I think he is a man) or this is just material for him to re-live this stuff later. There are so many women in the Phils, no need to trap a poor girl and refuse to acknowledge her signals.

Kabuli stop posting. Just go back to lurking. All you will be able to do when you get banned.

Post: #3413

(04-13-2016 11:49 AM)samsamsam Wrote:  This kabuli guy wrote with so much detail.

Maybe has some experience in the P.I. but spins a neat-o story blending elements of fact with mostly fiction to get people riled up.

Still say it's just a guy trolling hard.

Post: #3414

Guys, do not let yourself be baited into a defensive posture where you feel like you should have to explain yourselves for calling out what I would hope any decent human being would be against.

Vice I'm calling you out for making up the ridiculous notion that Kabuli didn't know what he was writing when it was perfectly clear. More importantly, that was not all that you said. You attempted to put us on the defensive by saying we sound just like SJWs and that is some serious bullshit. You're trying to put us on the defensive and explain ourselves for voicing outrage at a guy who forces himself into a bathroom, forcefully deflowers a virgin, and fucks her after she starts crying? You're defending this guy and accusing us in order to deflect the conversation from a very serious act. Come on man.

Think about how SJWs actually act. My hatred for the SJWs is because they don't give a fuck about actual rape and are trying to blur the definition for what rape actually means. They're trying to pervert the definition rape, a very serious act to include regretful but consensual sex, or now even including being hit on by guys they're not attracted to. They're destroying the seriousness of rape and hurting the credibility of actual rape victims. What did they say when a wave of violent rapes occur throughout Germany on new years eve this year? Nothing. Crickets. They don't care.

SJWs want to destroy our understanding of what rape is by making everything constitute rape. If you take the position that nothing constitutes rape, that may be the other side of the coin, but the result is the same. It muddles the significance of an act that throughout history has always clearly been understood. At that point, you and the SJWs are working towards the same goal.

Post: #3415

delete

Post: #3416

Okay you all here made me feel guilty. i called the girl right now and asked all the questions:
1. Did you regret what happened that night? No
2. Do you think I forced you into doing something you didn't want? No
3. Do you think I was the right guy to loose virginity to? Yes
4. When do we meet again? tomorrow

She is going to be my gf here till I am here. The man and his woman are happy, now you guys can relax. She is not a poor girl. She has a good paying job. Also it's not middle east where a girl is expected to be a virgin. This is Manila. every girl has a bf here. They loose their virginity at 16. There are having tons of sex. This is easiest country to get laid for christ sakes.Girls at 20 have three kids all from different fathers. Look at the massive single mother culture here. Don't try to guilt trip me now. We both are doing good. She is in love with me and honestly i have started to like her as well. She's the only girl who's texts i reply to after sex.

Post: #3417

Kabuli has been banned for posting a story of questionable legality with the likely intent to make the forum look bad.

Post: #3418

^ Probably for the best, regardless of where you fell on this issue. Now, we can move on to more constructive posts. That's the point of the Travel forum.

Post: #3419

I have not checked this thread for 24 hours and in that time from being an informative one it became a court room.
I am glad it is over now. For a while I felt I was on a wrong forum.
This guy was probably a Troll, just to see how the forum reacts to this kind of behavior.

So shall we talk about Philippines?

Post: #3420

(04-13-2016 01:04 PM)Vinny Wrote:  I have not checked this thread for 24 hours and in that time from being an informative one it became a court room.
I am glad it is over now. For a while I felt I was on a wrong forum.
This guy was probably a Troll, just to see how the forum reacts to this kind of behavior.

So shall we talk about Philippines?

Then you haven't been on here very long if you think you're on the wrong forum.

We call out fucked up behavior around here.

Post: #3421

(04-13-2016 02:05 PM)Fisto Wrote:  

(04-13-2016 01:04 PM)Vinny Wrote:  I have not checked this thread for 24 hours and in that time from being an informative one it became a court room.
I am glad it is over now. For a while I felt I was on a wrong forum.
This guy was probably a Troll, just to see how the forum reacts to this kind of behavior.

So shall we talk about Philippines?

Then you haven't been on here very long if you think you're on the wrong forum.

We call out fucked up behavior around here.

Now I think you're getting me wrong. It is my English? English is not even my 2nd Language, it is my 3rd.

I do not approve any such action!
All I am saying is I am glad things are back to track, when we can discuss the travel perks and game ideas.
Discuss how we can actually get girls to like us, without forcing them to have sex. And without any bad feelings after.

For example I have been to Philippines one time for 6 days, and I did have sex with 5 girls. I loved it, and they loved it. None of them cried before, during or after the sex.
Now 3 weeks after I've left, we still send snapchats to one another, keep in touch, and remain friends (with benefits). I am sure they will enjoy my company again when I am back.

That is my view on how it should be when you are not planning to settle with an LTR. Avoid too much lying (especially promising things), avoid dating girls that are dirt poor, and for them dating is more of surviving then enjoyment. This way you can keep your conscience clear.

Post: #3422

(04-13-2016 12:36 AM)AlphaGrowthHormone Wrote:  

(04-12-2016 11:51 PM)Shimmy Wrote:  

(04-12-2016 11:04 PM)AlphaGrowthHormone Wrote:  Time is coming fast. I am heading to Manila from SFO on May 1. Not sure how many days I want to spend in Manila or/and Cebu. Pretty much want to spend 5+ days to a week on dates and a bang mission then take my favorite to more of a touristy vacation for the 2nd week.

I had better luck in Manila because of the sheer number of people. Both will be great though.

DIA? Tinder? FilCupid? Day/Night game?

Tinder only. A few from night game when I wasn't even trying. You will have more tinder matches than you can keep up with if you are at least average looking and white. Just watch out for trannies. I put in my profile "No ladyboys please"

Post: #3423

(04-13-2016 10:14 AM)Vice Wrote:  

(04-13-2016 09:27 AM)thoughtgypsy Wrote:  ...

(04-13-2016 09:50 AM)Corroncho Wrote:  ...

(04-13-2016 09:39 AM)CodyB Wrote:  ...

(04-13-2016 07:55 AM)Malone Wrote:  Yes, I think a lot of men all over the world after reading that shit would like to throw you a beating.

Man, you people sound just like the SJWs who were angry over Roosh's stories in Bang Iceland:

http://www.wehuntedthemammoth.com/2015/0...date-rape/
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/1180976...mazon.html
http://icelandmonitor.mbl.is/news/news/2...ist_roosh/

^you sound just like those SJWs

Here are the excerpts from Bang Iceland that the SJWs were oh-so-offended by:

Quote:While walking to my place, I realized how drunk she was. In America, having sex with her would have been rape, since she couldn’t legally give her consent. It didn’t help matters that I was relatively sober, but I can’t say I cared or even hesitated.

I won’t rationalize my actions, but having sex is what I do.

If a girl is willing to walk home with me, she’s going to get the dick no matter how much she has drunk. …

I figure my dick was inside her about forty minutes after meeting her, likely my fastest bang ever. The sex was as good as drunken sex can get, but I did notice her pussy was drier than the Sahara desert.

-
In the middle of the night I got another boner, put on a condom, and jammed it back in while she was half-asleep. I came and passed out again with the condom still on my dick
-
After dinner we went upstairs and I eased her onto my king-size bed. It took four hours of foreplay and at least thirty repetitions of “No, Roosh, no” until she allowed my penis to enter her vagina. No means no—until it means yes.

The sex was painful for her. I was only the second guy she’d ever had sex with. … She whimpered like a wounded puppy dog the entire time, but I really wanted to have an orgasm, so I was “almost there” for about ten minutes. After sex she sobbed for a good while, talking about how she had sinned in the eyes of God, but in an hour she got horny again and we went at it once more.

Do tell me, what's the difference between you and those SJWs who wanted Roosh's head on a platter?

I stand by my analysis.

PS: And before anyone thinks I've got anything against Roosh, I wouldn't keep buying his books if that was true. His stories make me laugh.

The difference between us and SJWs is quite simple.

We don't need to look at a fluffed up article, for trigger words or for societies piss weak moral narrative to know when something isn't right.

This motherfucker, at the very least, took away a young virgins dignity. This has pissed a lot of men off. My feeling is Kabuli was a troll who joined up with the intention of destabilising the travel forum and pulling into disrepute. Don't be surprised to see his post come up in the media at some point.

Post: #3424

^ No I don't think he was a troll codyB. I'm leaving for the phils tomorrow morning. I sent him a pm a couple days ago about the two of us meeting up sometime. He's in Makati. Could you imagine meeting up with a member, sitting down and listening to that horror story. Damn...I don't think that would have turned out well for him in the end.

Post: #3425

(04-13-2016 07:59 PM)Schlep Wrote:  ^ No I don't think he was a troll codyB. I'm leaving for the phils tomorrow morning. I sent him a pm a couple days ago about the two of us meeting up sometime. He's in Makati. Could you imagine meeting up with a member, sitting down and listening to that horror story. Damn...I don't think that would have turned out well for him in the end.

Especially since I imagine he would tell the story in a way that made him very excited about it while you tried to hide your disgust. And then maybe at some point you couldn't control your disgust and something physical occurred.

I have been quite lucky in meeting people from RVF. But you need to be cautious. Too many people running around without the ability to have perspective and common sense. I hear/read stories all the time. Sadly, there are the guys people imagine when they hear stories about guys traveling around the world. Wish they would just stay in their mom's basement.