Post: #351

(10-15-2015 04:41 PM)bootyhuntah Wrote:  Another thing to note is washing clothes, if that's something you're planning on doing. For whatever reason, I found laundromats or places that wash/fold your clothes are either very rare or quite pricey (for Colombian standards) in Medellín. If you are renting an apartment with washer and/or dryer, this is a non-issue. I still recommend packing light, enough clothes for 10 days then washing your stuff. For one month of stuff you would need sizable luggage...and besides, who actually owns 30 pairs of undies?

This is one of only about three good things about the D.C. area, you can drop off all your clothes at a dry cleaner and they will do a really good job, everything will be ready by the next day, and it is pretty cheap. Everywhere else I go, it is much more expensive, they are slower, and overall worse. There was a place where I dropped off my clothes on or around Calle 9, near Lleras that was pretty decent. If I find the name and/or number of the place, I will post it.

Post: #352

Gonna be in Medellin starting next week will be there for a bit PM me if anyone wants to meet.

Post: #353

(10-15-2015 04:47 PM)Merenguero Wrote:  

(10-15-2015 04:41 PM)bootyhuntah Wrote:  Another thing to note is washing clothes, if that's something you're planning on doing. For whatever reason, I found laundromats or places that wash/fold your clothes are either very rare or quite pricey (for Colombian standards) in Medellín. If you are renting an apartment with washer and/or dryer, this is a non-issue. I still recommend packing light, enough clothes for 10 days then washing your stuff. For one month of stuff you would need sizable luggage...and besides, who actually owns 30 pairs of undies?

This is one of only about three good things about the D.C. area, you can drop off all your clothes at a dry cleaner and they will do a really good job, everything will be ready by the next day, and it is pretty cheap. Everywhere else I go, it is much more expensive, they are slower, and overall worse. There was a place where I dropped off my clothes on or around Calle 9, near Lleras that was pretty decent. If I find the name and/or number of the place, I will post it.

I know a unicorn: a cheap and good laundry cleaner in Medellin... close to the Setenta (Laureles), and charging by the pound of clothes (2 USD per kilo). PM me for exact address, if anyone is interested.

Post: #354

Ok guys, I'm trying my best here. I started a low value thread and got caned for it, so doing my best to comment in the right place. I picked as standard a thread as I could find and with lots of comments. I notice it is old so I may not be doing the right thing. Am I missing the rule book that guides me here or should we get writing it before we cane all the newbies? Please don't take this as snark, just a new kid lost

Anyway where am I at?. I'm in Medallion 9 days and did the pipelining on tinder and CC before I came, similar to what I did (well not CC) for when I went to Lima in 2015. Based on my performance there, I felt I was coming fairly loaded this time. How wrong I was. Sure, I had a date second night with a cute girl that I banged 3 dates in and she has become a sort of regular spin but boy have I lucked out elsewhere, and damn I have run the hard yards in my opinion.

Me:
40, fit, gym goer - toned but not jacked, all my hair - no grey. Confident, charming, witty. Financially secure. Low intermediate Spanish - good written, poor listening but confident enough to not let it hold me back.

Lima:
Looking back at Lima for a second I think I treated it like a western country, as in I made a few matches, sent a few lines, arranged a date, did the date, progressed. It was easy and hassle free. I dated 4 girls multiple times, banged 2, had 2 weekends away with 2 of them (1 of which I didn't bang....yes I know, terrible). It was fun, easy and not all about chasing the bang. I was there 5 weeks and was content with that. Looking back and how easy it was to set them up, date and get to know the girls etc., if I had taken the approach and effort I am doing now, I think I would need multiple dicks. I never knew how good I had it

Medellin so far:
So skipping past my regular, I've put in the hours every day (upwards of 4 a day) - all online game. I've played all ways - nice guy, bad guy, funny guy, stupid guy, aggressive guy etc. I've spun all sorts of yarns and I think some of it is starting to stick. Between the three apps (welcome Happn), I've made loads of connections and probably have 20-25 whatsapp connections from them. I ask tons of questions early and when/if they go cold I go cold for a few days and then hit them with something cheeky/stupid/attempted funny and see if anything sticks. I sent one yesterday to all my cold fish and am getting loads of new numbers and what looks like positive responses. So far so good, but is it?

Poor progress:
So what have I got to show so far (besides my regular):

- 1 complete date. Nice girl but a bit boring for me, so I'm checked out
- 2 no shows, 2 nights in a row. Both girls from CC, both keen. Both with agreed time and location. Sent them both whatsapp of exact meet location (we said the street prior) both read. The first keeps reading texts all night and replies 3 hours after the date that she had an issue with her mother. The second texts me at agreed meet time saying she is running 20 mins late. Then when I text her 40 mins later 'Estas Bromeando?' (You are joking?), I notice I'm blocked

Pipeline:
I have 4 or 5 more girls at least luke warm for over the weekend/early next week and 1 very hot....never stops texting/flirting/chatting/laughing at my bad jokes so I think there are opportunities but again to get them I've had to run very hard yards

Question time:
1. I've read lots of the threads here and read 'Linux Bangs Colombia' from start to finish. Am I really that bad or having the worst luck or is it getting harder here? Have I missed the boat? Is it becoming saturated? (Note. I steer clear of Poblado - only went there for UFC fight last Saturday). When I turned on Tinder for Bogota I got loads of ops, better than here I think - should I be there now?
2. Any general advice on what I can be doing better?
3. Please comment on the aforementioned attempted funny/cheeky comment I am pasting below. This got me loads of numbers and ops but goes against the general stance that sarcasm and cheekiness don't bode well down here - what are your thoughts?
4. Is it just general flakiness the 2 no shows or are CC girls getting smart and started to setup the gringos? haha

Stupid/attempted funny (gone cold) line that peaked interest and got me numbers (sorry if the Spanish is not perfect - part of the charm):

Ok, estoy aqui desde 8 dias. Camine todo lugares buscando para ti, pero no tengo suerte ?. Ayuderme ??

Ps. I was here in 2009 - no gringos and locals asking me why I was here - heaven!!

Post: #355

Why are you doing online game?? In Medellin?? From what I've heard Medellin is awesome...
if you take the time to make solid connections...i.e people inviting you to hang out with larger groups
of friends. That's where the action is.

Online game. Day game. Night game. Each has it's place but they can also be so limiting at times
mainly because you're working with such a small pool of girls to begin with.

Over 80% of the girls you want to meet aren't going to be found online, walking around or going out
to the nightclub...even if your game is tight, your prospects are still going to be limited and you'll have to rely on chance
rather than having a reliable network of different friends inviting you out to hang with their friends on different nights
of the week.

Strong Social networking is the only reliable way to meet girls consistently.
Anything else (online dating, day/night game) is going to give you completely random results
and a smaller pool of available women that is dictated by time, place and venue...
factors you have practically no control over. You end up being a pool ball bouncing all over the table.

Social networking however gives you all the power. The more real connections you make with cool people
the more chances you have to meet interesting girls you really click with.

Post: #356

^^^
I can't say that I disagree with you, but if you are there for a short time, like any other place, your only real options are online, daytime, and nightgame, mostly the first two, as nightgame is tough in Medellin. You may have some RVF social circle if you are there for a limited time, but that's about it.

Post: #357

(03-12-2016 12:18 PM)Merenguero Wrote:  ^^^
I can't say that I disagree with you, but if you are there for a short time, like any other place, your only real options are online, daytime, and nightgame, mostly the first two, as nightgame is tough in Medellin. You may have some RVF social circle if you are there for a limited time, but that's about it.

Exactly...Guys doing all this travel and not investing in a solid social circle that is at least 50% female is just gambling.
Sure work with the cards you've got, just realize the game you're playing.

What guys need is an investment strategy. Plan multiple trips to an awesome city with the sole intent to make solid friends(including with girls)
and keep coming back regularly...lol it's kind of like a long term relationship...only with a city.

Guys should realize that expecting (or hoping) to just hop off a plane and hookup with dozens of women over the weekend
is mostly just wishful thinking and not to be too disappointed...

Post: #358

Ok this can work

I do intend to jump about a bit and return (starting next Friday to Bogotá) and I'll befriend the boring date and get in with her friends this week (she offered). I'll run with social network and do have the time to work it.

I will though stress my point that this is tough, much tougher then Lima and maybe I suffer from low testosterone but not sure its worth the effort.....I can't help thinking..... fly your ass to Lima and let the good times role

Side note.... I think the quality in Lima is equally as good as here and way more open

Thanks for the tips

Post: #359

(03-12-2016 02:42 PM)stingbanger Wrote:  Side note.... I think the quality in Lima is equally as good as here and way more open

My head is spinning and I'm the last guy who you will ever hear speak favorably about Colombia or Colombians.

Post: #360

(03-12-2016 02:42 PM)stingbanger Wrote:  Ok this can work

I do intend to jump about a bit and return (starting next Friday to Bogotá) and I'll befriend the boring date and get in with her friends this week (she offered). I'll run with social network and do have the time to work it.

I will though stress my point that this is tough, much tougher then Lima and maybe I suffer from low testosterone but not sure its worth the effort.....I can't help thinking..... fly your ass to Lima and let the good times role

Side note.... I think the quality in Lima is equally as good as here and way more open

Thanks for the tips

Pereira, is a good option if you don't want to work so hard and the flaking is considerably less than in Medellin. Plus 95 percent of first dates either go nowhere or lead to a bang. Many girls also are willing to come to meet first at your place if you pay the taxi.
Only problem is the city is relatively small and the online target pool isn't large. Also girls are a bit weary of straight out day game approaches. Night game is comparable to Medellin.
No way the average quality in Lima is equally as good as in Medellin. But when you are regularly banging cute young girls, your mind sometimes plays tricks on you.

Post: #361

I think guys who like Lima alot is due to the fact they get the top 5% in Lima due to the exotic factor, while in Medellin getting the top 5% is much more difficult.

Post: #362

Hello everyone,

First of all: this is not a typical post in here I would say. Sorry for it to be quite long too. I think some of you can enjoy reading the following but a lot of you won't. I basically think its impossible to find a girl in Medellin if you are looking for something serious, not based in a money relation (Damn; all the stupid -25 y old bitches with kids piss me off). I just came back from a crazy trip which makes me think like it. Some of you might find me and this writing stupid ..

I am not the typical Rooshv guy I would say. For the last 2 or 3 years; I am basically looking for a girlfriend to stay with. To fall in love. To feel good. My game is quite OK and I am never shy to go to talk to any woman.
I am looking for something really specific: a younger girl, educated, that does not want me to be her sugardaddy all the time, with a skinny top model body... Sex just for sex doesnt interest me so much any more unless new experiences.

I am 32y old; super tall; ok looking and european. My first language is French but I speak quite well Spanish. I am living in Medellin for 2 months.
Just came back yesterday from 5 really crazy days. I must say... I really hate myself now, but I guess it makes me feel temporarily better to write about it.

THE girl...
5/6 weeks ago, I met this girl in a Parque LLeras club (el deck), had her whatsapp really easily with funny lines like "you are the girl of my life, I want to meet you, blabla". In general, especially if you speak Spanish, it is SOOO EASY to get a girl contact here. She is physically my perfection: very skinny but still with a nice and natural ass/boobs combo; rather tall for a local girl (1.69) and has the longest hair I have ever seen. 22 years old.

I met her twice afterwards, we kissed on first date; she told me some really wonderful things like.. "I want to know all about you", etc. She is middle class and in her last year at university as a odontologist, she HATES if I pay anything for her... Bingo, that makes here different than 90p of the girls here.I am basically quickly falling into sentiments. The third date, I invite her at my place to watch some movie and we end up have amazing sex. She has the most beautiful body I have ever seen in real. (had over 40 girls which is ok but nothing special. A lot in Latin America, where I am for 3 years)

She is bisexual, tells me about some of her crazy stories, damn, perfect girl. She told me she wanted to go to EJE Cafetero (Salento, Manizales, etc.) during Semana Santa and I quickly said I would go with her. This is exactly what happened.
But it was not easy. She does not have money since she is still studying and her father is helping her. But the night before we are supposed to go, she is like, I am cancelling all because my father is sooo bad, I cant go; blabla. She is out of her house for +24 hours..
I dont believe her and tell her she is playing with me. She answer me with sooo crazy messages telling me that "that all our conversations, laughs, the sex we had together, etc, were NOT A GAME, that she likes me a lot, etc..."
I feel in heaven with her anwers and the next day.. her father finally gave her money and Tuesday morning, we were in our way to Eje Cafetero...

I am like "Damn, ok, I only know her for a little bit of time but going 5 days in a trip with her is going to make things amazing.." Especially since she is dreaming about traveling but didnt have many opportunities..

When we make it to our amazing hotel near Manizales in our first day, we have amazing sex, she is so beautiful, god I am happy. Once again, she pays everything, we do all 50/50. There I am, with a girl that I find physically perfect, not with me for my money, a bit crazy like I like, doing very well in her studies, etc... Almost most perfect times ever.

THEN.. things start to go down.. Second day, she tells me she does not want to have sex with me anymore. Basically, for the 4 other days, we had a once a day really nice masturbation sessions. MUCH better than nothing. But I don't understand why she doesnt want sex any more..

Then, and that is where I start to hate myself, I basically show too much my sentiments and she doesnt like it. Things like, when we are traveling, I always want to touch her hand or something like that. She doesnt like it.
We have conversations where she tells me that she is still young; that she doesnt care if people think she is a bitch but that she still wants to experiment with many guys .. and girls. She wished and I wish that I was the guy that didnt had any feeling about her, just sex and fun..
--> But I basically NEVER CAN DO THAT in my life when I start to like a girl.. and almost every times, it fucks me. I really think of myself of SHIT about this. Its like, any girl I really like I will always fuck up things. While most girls I fuck with, that I dont care about (about 90p of the girls I have something with) things go quite well.

THEN... things get even worse. 3 days ago, she finally tells me, little by little, that she is thinking about another guy ALL the time. That she thinks to be in couple with him. All the bullshit about not wanting to be in a relation and then this...
The guy is Colombian, 36 y old (god girls love older guys here..), he told her she is in a informal relation with a woman but wants to be with her. She goes so crazy about it, looking at her whatsapp all the time.
The fucked up thing is they met... just a little bit before she met me! They had sex only once, when we were already together. The bitch. But before our 5 days trip, she would never show she was thinking about someone else. Once again, she showed me so many signs that I interpreted as 'I really start to like you too'..This whole drama only started during the trip.
What is more horrible than having a girl next to you that is 100% thinking about someone else?

God, this makes me feel so much like shit. Why can't I be as good as this Colombian fucking guy?
- I think it is almost impossible for a gringo guy, even with good spanish; to find a paisa girlfriend in a relation non based about money. The nice educated girls, with no kids; they only want Colombian guys.
Plus, even if your Spanish is really good, the conversations with a local educated guy will ALWAYS be more enjoyable for her. God this fucks me so much to think like that. Is my only viable option, knowing what I want, to be with a girl from my country? (Belgium) I HATE the idea.
- She probably saw the guy almost as soon as we arrived to Medellin yesterday night. I tried to go party, to speak to a few girls but came back quite drunk, feeling like shit like never.
I hope it went wrong with the guy but I doubt it. He is probably good to make someone feel crazy like she did with her and even if he only wants a young and fine pussy, he will not fuck his own game.
She told me she was only in love twice in her life and that she had problems about it then (had to go to a psychologist, missed a whole school year, etc.). She is SUPER passionate.

I dont know much what to do now.. I plan not to write to her at all for a few days but the Whatsapp attraction is really strong. Even though the idea fucks me, I guess I am done with her and should grow up and stop to be a drama Queen. But as soon as I will be again alone with my thoughts, not doing much, I will go down again...

° Did some of you have kind of the same stories? What do you think about it? Please, it would be great to read your since thoughts.
° Even though it doesnt make sense with the 'I am totally in love and want a relation with this colombian guy' bullshit, she told me many times that she would want to have group sex. I guess even though I love her... I of course wouldnt mind a sexfriend relation. Do you recommend me the Swingers Clubs? I have read about Lili Swinger, is it nice there?
Also, any recommendation of clubs where transexual/gay people go clearly go to find sex? She is so much into the idea of Lesbian sex and obviously, I wouldnt mind that kind of 3some story.Recommendations?
° Last but not least... Where do you recommend me to go out to, I guess I will have no choice, to find more girls like her: educated, not looking for money type of girls. Where does university girls go? In my opinion, Parque LLeras is AS BAD AS HELL even though you can always get lucky.. (I met her there...)
Parque Colombia? Anywhere else? For the story, before I met her, I once went to Bello, we were the only gringos with a friend and the game was maybe the easiest of my whole life...

Cheers guys and thanks for the read

Post: #363

(03-27-2016 12:35 PM)Killarmy Wrote:  Hello everyone,

TL;DR

Post: #364

(03-27-2016 12:38 PM)trainwreck Wrote:  

(03-27-2016 12:35 PM)Killarmy Wrote:  Hello everyone,

TL;DR

Thanks for your participation. I was clear at the start and knew some people would not give a fuck about my post.
I guess I will just delete my post if all I got is TL : DR

Post: #365

Killarmy - read the FORUM GUIDE (Must Read Before Posting)

(05-16-2012 07:53 AM)Roosh Wrote:  5. The members of this forum believe in a model of abundance. We consider it a waste of time to get needy with one girl who in all likelihood doesn't hold you in a positive light because of the poor game you already used on her. Once you mess up with a girl, it is almost impossible for her to change her opinion of you, no matter how good you eventually may get. In other words, if you have zero game, we don't want to hear your sob story of some girl who only wants to be friends with you. Game is about banging a lot of new girls, not one girl is 100% sure she doesn't want to bang you.

If you want a girlfriend and to fall in love then bisexual girls aren't the girls for you and Colombia isn't the place for you. It's like going to the USA to find skinny girls.

Post: #366

delete

Post: #367

Killarmy, your story is pretty standard for everyone and i think anyone who improved his game has had that exact same relationship, where he meets the girl thats just his type and that he always wanted, and he gets super needy after and blows it.
It can also re-happen once youve been out of the game for a while.

You say your game is ok but this is just a sign that you should work on it more, youre too needy, and youre a big drama queen to be honest (with all due respect, im trying to help).

You even overreacted to the first reply you got that wasnt what you wanted. "i guess ill delete my post" because one user didnt like it? come on man.

As for what you should do, well i think you should:

1- Work better on your confidence and control of your emotions
2- Meet more quality girls so you wouldnt be so needy when you hit it off with a hot one.

I dont care if a girl is the beauty queen of the universe, a guy wont get needy with a girl if hes getting consistent quality.

Again, it happened/happens with everyone, its simply a push on the back to work on yourself more. Adopt a positive attitude and go for it.

Post: #368

I read 10% of what you wrote.

Sounds like you let yourself get played.

Swallow that red pill and learn from it.

Don

EDIT: I stopped writing my original response when I read this,

"Also, any recommendation of clubs where transexual/gay people go clearly go to find sex? She is so much into the idea of Lesbian sex and obviously, I wouldnt mind that kind of 3some story.Recommendations?"

Post: #369

And (this is just my personal opinion), stop going to third world poor countries and be all paranoid about money with girls who make in a month what a lunch costs you back home.

I understand not wanting to be used or falling into the provider role, but expecting poor girls to pitch in their month's salary just for a trip with you and getting out a calculator to see if shes paid her 50% is just too much.

Half your post was about that, so you may be getting too hung up on it.

Post: #370

Thanks for the message Beirut. I really appreciate it. And yes, I know, once again, I sound like over-reacting and drama queen.

Yes, I think my game is good but it get catastrophic as soon as I start to like a girl. This happens once every 10/15 girls, not more often.
As you wrote, I just can't control my emotions when I hit the one I dream about and it's pathetic. I wish I could do something about it, outside of just getting more experience.

You say a guy won't get needy if he is getting consistent quality but that sounds like someone that don't care nor dream to have a relation with one of these dream girls. I fail to find any good balance there.

Post: #371

(03-27-2016 01:24 PM)RioNomad Wrote:  I read 10% of what you wrote.

Sounds like you let yourself get played.

Swallow that red pill and learn from it.

Don

EDIT: I stopped writing my original response when I read this,

"Also, any recommendation of clubs where transexual/gay people go clearly go to find sex? She is so much into the idea of Lesbian sex and obviously, I wouldnt mind that kind of 3some story.Recommendations?"

I'm not sure he's serious. It's almost like he read through the Colombia threads, did the exact opposite of what other posters recommend doing, then started complaining about some of the most obvious and unavoidable problems about Colombia, i.e. single mothers, not marriage material, asking for money, etc. I would say avoid nightgaming in Lleras, but I don't know how much good it will do.

Post: #372

(03-27-2016 01:24 PM)RioNomad Wrote:  EDIT: I stopped writing my original response when I read this,

"Also, any recommendation of clubs where transexual/gay people go clearly go to find sex? She is so much into the idea of Lesbian sex and obviously, I wouldnt mind that kind of 3some story.Recommendations?"

I'd suggest confirming "she" didn't used to have a penis at one point in "her" life.

Post: #373

(03-27-2016 01:24 PM)RioNomad Wrote:  I read 10% of what you wrote.

Sounds like you let yourself get played.

Swallow that red pill and learn from it.

Don

EDIT: I stopped writing my original response when I read this,

"Also, any recommendation of clubs where transexual/gay people go clearly go to find sex? She is so much into the idea of Lesbian sex and obviously, I wouldnt mind that kind of 3some story.Recommendations?"

To be very honest, this part of my message was utterly stupid and event though, yes, this is something that might happen in the future with her, it is completely inadequate with the rest of my message. I understand the jokes. My ideas are not clear and I slept very little for 1 week though.

I would have appreciated the rest of your thoughts though...

Once again, I just fail to find the good balance between the I don't give a fuck attitude and the I am falling in love attitude. All this seems easy for all of you but is any one else also interested into finding the girl of his dreams and sticking to it forever? My game, there, is the worst ever. All I can do is have quick ones that I don't care at all.

Post: #374

(03-27-2016 01:40 PM)Merenguero Wrote:  I'm not sure he's serious.

He is serious but he has lost control of his brain because the girl is much hotter than what he is used to. And her game is better than his game and she played him. He doesn't want to admit this to himself but it is true. He answers half of his questions in his own post and he doesn't want to accept anyone's opinion that he doesn't already agree with. He came here to vent and get emotional support but he isn't really trying to learn anything.

(03-27-2016 01:35 PM)Killarmy Wrote:  You say a guy won't get needy if he is getting consistent quality but that sounds like someone that don't care nor dream to have a relation with one of these dream girls. I fail to find any good balance there.

(03-27-2016 12:35 PM)Killarmy Wrote:  The fucked up thing is they met... just a little bit before she met me! They had sex only once, when we were already together. The bitch.

Dream girls don't fuck other guys after you are already together.

I'm not sure if "dream girls" exist in real life but if they do a dream girl for a relationship is not bisexual or Colombian, especially not a Paisa.

Post: #375

Birthday cat, actually, I really appreciate your opinion.
Yes, I am brainfucked at the moment. And I am more than ready to read opinion that are completely trashing me (kinda) if constructive.

As for what you say about her:
I think I obviously idealize her. But even though she is women attracted (only had sex once with a woman, then with around 10 dudes) doesnt make things impossible to me. Then... why would a girl like I describe (educated, not caring about money, apart from being amazing) never could be a dream relationship? Especially if a Paisa. I am really interested to read your thoughts.

@ Merenguero: I think I disagree with you when you say I seem to have done all the contrary of what is recommended here.
I met this girl in a random bar, almost said nothing to her but made her laugh and got her whatsapp. Then met her again, kissing/etc. Then, twice before our trip, she came to my place and we had some of the most amazing sex in my life.
It's my 5 days trip, 24/24 with her that seems to have fucked up everything. That said, apart from what I said about the difficulties of communication someone can encounter with a girl if not having a PERFECT spanish, it of course is a huge minus that the girl think you can always be like leaving tomorrow. (I could afford to stay here with my work but well..)