(02-10-2016 11:09 PM)~wrIghter~ Wrote:  @rob I remember giving a girl my number and she didn't text me for two, maybe 3 weeks. Chances are, if her interest is high enough she'll shoot you a text or call at some point.

Hopefully so. Only she probably thinks I got her number when she called and that I decided not to text her for some reason. Oh well.

Been knocking out approaches like Muhammad Ali. It feels good being back in the grind. Feeling more alive than ever. When you knock out approaches you start feeling more direct and forward, it's a magnificent feeling. Cheers gents hope you're feeling much the same.

A chick that I banged a few times, met her off SA. Young and dumb, literally. Set up a meet. Gave address. She asked if that was a hotel. I confirmed. At first I thought she was flaking but she said her mom held her up she's on her way.
Met. Banged. I knew I wasn't and didn't want to be spending anymore time with her so I tried to find ways to eject. Finally I decided ill just get mad at her for the next random dumb thing she says that I disagree with.
In 3 minutes I was kicking her out of the hotel, she's pleading with me.
It was so bizarre and random for me but I had to go. I remember at one point she said "so you just wanted sex" and I did a combination of saying yes then deflected. I wasn't prepared for that one.

I feel bad that she did buy me chocolate but she does say some random dumb things. ..I don't feel bad about that.
All in all I feel awesome and I felt great kicking her out. I'm pretty sure she'll call me to see her again but I don't care. I didn't realize how annoying she was until today.

Hahaha what did she say?

I'm 0 for 2 with Korean women so far in 2016. Last night's date was nice enough, but was definitely not buying what I was selling. Might try again next week though, since she wasn't bitchy like the other one.

Tonight I'm meeting with a Mexican for drinks and possibly more. I've done well with Mexican chicks in 2015, we shall see if that trend continues. Wish me luck

^ Got SIF'ed. Damn mexican food.

Friday, banged out this 7.5 Asian girl from tinder.Completely drained from that fuck fest. More on her in a detailed write up.

Hardly any sleep worked all day saturday and went to this bad ass punk show, caught up with old music friends of mine, it really is a small world in music scene around here.

A RVF'er put some sense into me last night on how I do indeed need to slow my roll with poorly chose women.

Now back on my grind at work, meal prep afterwards, then meet up with the trainer girl I've been banging, I just realized it's Valentine's day, so I'll tread carefully, I did flake on her twice already. I do want to see DeadPool and I know she's sort of a nerd.


Side Note:

Ever have just a super rad day and it bleed into everything you did that day ?

That's how Saturday felt like, I was in an absolute fuck the world positive vibe kind of day. Everything just clicked.

^^^^ haha if I recall correctly you gave me the same advice. Something along the lines of not wasting time with subpar lizards, a la the stop wasting your time thread (by jariel).

(02-12-2016 08:08 PM)toejam Wrote:  A chick that I banged a few times, met her off SA. Young and dumb, literally. Set up a meet. Gave address. She asked if that was a hotel. I confirmed. At first I thought she was flaking but she said her mom held her up she's on her way.
Met. Banged. I knew I wasn't and didn't want to be spending anymore time with her so I tried to find ways to eject. Finally I decided ill just get mad at her for the next random dumb thing she says that I disagree with.
In 3 minutes I was kicking her out of the hotel, she's pleading with me.
It was so bizarre and random for me but I had to go. I remember at one point she said "so you just wanted sex" and I did a combination of saying yes then deflected. I wasn't prepared for that one.

I feel bad that she did buy me chocolate but she does say some random dumb things. ..I don't feel bad about that.
All in all I feel awesome and I felt great kicking her out. I'm pretty sure she'll call me to see her again but I don't care. I didn't realize how annoying she was until today.

It's amazing what SA does to your mind. Abundance mentality to the extreme.

Don't like the bitch? Kick her out?

It makes me sick to think about how many high quality chicks I've missed out on because I was chasing obviously sub-par ones. Patrice O'Neil's notion of girls raping your time is dead on.

(02-14-2016 06:17 PM)Ensam Wrote:  It makes me sick to think about how many high quality chicks I've missed out on because I was chasing obviously sub-par ones. Patrice O'Neil's notion of girls raping your time is dead on.

Just remember, the sub-par chicks prior to game would have looked like quality ones.

The fatties and wildebeests that were easy
The ugmos with good bodies,
The pretty faces and 30 lbs past being cute,
The cool chicks that aren't that attractive,
The smokeshows with empty heads and dead souls
The club chicks that are always drunk or coked out
The chicks with wild sex, crazy lives, and nothing but headaches
The librarian during the day, and submissive at night, who ends up clinging to you
The perfect chick from another country, who's cultural divide you just can't bridge

All of that helps you run better game.

So when you run into the next chick, if you're keeping your game tight, you run her through your matrix of your last experiences. SCREEN!

WIA

I never realized how much good teeth play into a girls level of attractiveness until today. Saw a girl that looked like an 8 checking me out. Was about to approach and she showed a big smile but she had busted teeth and a giant snaggletooth. Dropped her instantly to like a 4 or 5. I just kept walking right past her.

(02-14-2016 05:43 PM)lex the impaler Wrote:  ^^^^ haha if I recall correctly you gave me the same advice. Something along the lines of not wasting time with subpar lizards, a la the stop wasting your time thread (by jariel).

Absolutely, we all need reminders and to be checked from time to time.

Yes it was, but this was more correlated with supposed Herpes outbreak, which a test showed negative last week. I just got retested and am awaiting results.

My doc said whoever gave me the initial test, more than likely was wrong. So I'm stoked about that.

The girl who claimed I gave her chlamydia was absolutely wrong and called her on it, this plate slept with another dude and fucked up. She knows how bad she fucked up in accusing me, since my tests came out clean.

But my conversation in my OP was yes about choosing poorly, wasting our time on shitty women, and potentially risking your health.

Thing is, you can screen girls good, but there's some shit you'll never be prepare for, part of the learning process.

(02-14-2016 06:29 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

(02-14-2016 06:17 PM)Ensam Wrote:  It makes me sick to think about how many high quality chicks I've missed out on because I was chasing obviously sub-par ones. Patrice O'Neil's notion of girls raping your time is dead on.

Just remember, the sub-par chicks prior to game would have looked like quality ones.

The fatties and wildebeests that were easy
The ugmos with good bodies,
The pretty faces and 30 lbs past being cute,
The cool chicks that aren't that attractive,
The smokeshows with empty heads and dead souls
The club chicks that are always drunk or coked out
The chicks with wild sex, crazy lives, and nothing but headaches
The librarian during the day, and submissive at night, who ends up clinging to you
The perfect chick from another country, who's cultural divide you just can't bridge

All of that helps you run better game.

So when you run into the next chick, if you're keeping your game tight, you run her through your matrix of your last experiences. SCREEN!

WIA

WIA nailed, it's a constant learning process, but we do get better at screening and filter the BS and what we want out of a woman.


Side Note:

My close friend popped the question to his LTR, asked me to be the best man.

I'm a bit surprised, he's a good dude, works his ass off, I straight up asked him before he went and saw her:

"You think you're read to do this ?"
"What about the break ups and your history?"
"What about getting all latina feisty ?"
"I know you're a hothead sometimes, you'll be cool?"

I brought up our 2 night binge drinking conversations that got pretty deep about relationships and girls.

He seemed confident, but he knew what I was getting at, he told me they did go to counseling last year, that it's time.

I really really hope he's right about everything being good - I know he isn't - but a man will make his own choices.

He's a brother to me, so I do worry about him, and he's one of those guys who constantly needs a GF.

He also proposed to another LTR years ago, she ended up cheating on him and losing a kid to SID's.

His mother knows that I've questioned his relationship with this now fiance. But his mother and sister are even feistier than the fiance, they've put her in check before.


I don't think I could ever get married man, fuck all that stress.

(02-14-2016 06:29 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

(02-14-2016 06:17 PM)Ensam Wrote:  It makes me sick to think about how many high quality chicks I've missed out on because I was chasing obviously sub-par ones. Patrice O'Neil's notion of girls raping your time is dead on.

Just remember, the sub-par chicks prior to game would have looked like quality ones.

The fatties and wildebeests that were easy
The ugmos with good bodies,
The pretty faces and 30 lbs past being cute,
The cool chicks that aren't that attractive,
The smokeshows with empty heads and dead souls
The club chicks that are always drunk or coked out
The chicks with wild sex, crazy lives, and nothing but headaches
The librarian during the day, and submissive at night, who ends up clinging to you
The perfect chick from another country, who's cultural divide you just can't bridge

All of that helps you run better game.

So when you run into the next chick, if you're keeping your game tight, you run her through your matrix of your last experiences. SCREEN!

WIA

Sage advice.

My biggest hang up at the moment is learning how to reject women. I had a great date with a girl who by all outside appearances looks good. Into charity work, feminine, dressed conservative, anti-pc/sjw, etc. Seemed like a great girl for most of the night. Made out on the dance floor, all signs pointed to yes. However, during the course of the evening she self disclosed that she enjoyed more than dabbling with cocaine and oxycontin. She also let slip that she had a habit of dating teachers and bosses. Now my mind says, eject, eject, eject. But my heart still wants to give her another 'chance'.

Hard to remember in the moment that I'm the mother-fucking prize. Her date with me was her shot at landing a good dude and she blew it. On the other hand I'm thankful I've developed enough of a non-judgemental vibe that girls feel comfortable disclosing stuff like that to me earlier rather than later.

Man one thing reminiscent of old school values that's remained is brotherhood between two male friends. I'm glad to see it alive and well.

Passed my bro his current plate and he passed me a slump buster today. Having good male friends with similar mentalities is one of those long term investments that having a large social circle gets you. It helps in every part of life from game to having your back.

Definitely a pleasure to be back in it. Cheers.

As I'm writing this I'm currently quite drunk but still coherent. A small summary of my night. Was macking on this chick in the club, had gone there with a big group that consisted of her and my friends. I had pashed her and was rubbing her pussy through her dress in the corner of the dance-floor for 5-10 minutes. After that we sort of rejoined her circle of dancing friends, and tried to isolate her again for the make out and possibly a pull. She then says she can't because her friends are watching. I honestly expected it once she said it, but had no plan to combat it so I just went to the bar and got some more drinks,and danced with whichever girl I wanted because I was just having a good time. It seemed like she was starting to play games, so I basically ignored her the rest of the night, but whenever she came close to me I told her I don't play games and to come to me if she's interested. I realise at this point that this is terrible game if I want the pull but I was kinda pissed so I didn't change my pattern. She eventually left with her friends, but went out of her way to say goodbye to me, and I just stared at her for like 10 seconds waiting for her to make some sort of excuse to stay but it never came because I didn't build enough of a connection to overpower her peer pressure( I guess? At this point this is just drunk rambling).

reflections on this (while still drunk but, so probably useless):
- Should've known she would throw up the 'in front of friends' defence even though she acted super keen at this point.
-should've swallowed my ego and just danced with her earlier and ignore her slightly annoying behaviour and not coming to me like I wanted/expected/took for granted.
Should've asked her to stay when she left,I think she wanted to but my ego may have gotten in the way by not directly asking her.
-drank too much to make 100% conscious decisions that would get me the pull.


In saying that, I had a great time, was dancing like a maniac with these girls and just generally not giving a fuck.
note- this group I was with was like 95% african while I'm white, although I think this had little to no effect on my ability to pull.

I'm stuck a bit.

chick from SA, first date bang was success. We made plans to hang out, etc.

So i used a line from this board, i throw out a text saying: clear your schedule next weekend. I'll be in town lets hangout.
her: ok. my schedule is officially cleared, im looking forward to it.
me: 'officially?'
her: yes 'officially.' i officially asked for those days off from my work.

i've had a change of heart and i no longer want to see her. i have better options on rotation and i just don't care to see her. i sense she wants something from me too, like money or a gift....but like i said i have better looking prospects that i'd rather be with.

i just don't want to be an asshole after she took the day off from work. ive never been good with canceling, although later i have this "i dont give a ***" attitude.
i basically need a way to cancel without being "soft".

i was thinking "my schedule changed. rain check."

Back to the matter of the girl-next-door to me, who I'd been trying to seduce, with minimal success. I've finally pieced together the clues strewn about regarding the patterns of her lifestyle, and have concluded quite solidly that she's some kind of callgirl. All this talk of how $ has to play a role in her dating interactions, her estrangement from her kids, her legit overnight job facilitating a robust nightlife, how obsessively cryptic she is in disclosing her personal info. And how I'll scope her leaving the house in immensely skanky outfits, and of course, the abundance of guy "friends", alongside an absence of female associates.

I'm having a tough time having this element in my face. I've tried to utilize what's offered here to play this right, but my lack of experience shined through, and now, even if I were to resort to "pay to play", Christ, I don't think she'd even swing that, given her "we're neighbors" bullshit rationalization. And on top of that, I'm sure she's convinced that I don't know what's up. I suppose I shouldn't care, cuz it ain't my business, but I let myself get sucked into it, and would like nothing more than to stand down and let it be. Either that, or take steps to oust this chick from my scene. I need advice from the RVF . . .

(02-18-2016 02:17 PM)Mess O. Wrote:  I suppose I shouldn't care, cuz it ain't my business, but I let myself get sucked into it, and would like nothing more than to stand down and let it be. Either that, or take steps to oust this chick from my scene. I need advice from the RVF . . .

You've got oneitis for her man! The best advice for your situation is right there in what you wrote. Write her off, double down on gaming other women and try to bring as many women back to your place as possible. Your neighbor will eventually notice and may come back sniffing around. When you see her always be polite to her the same way you would treat an 80 year old neighbor and adopt the mindset that she's dead to you.

Right and right again. I'd like to simply co-exist and go about our business, but yeah, I know, it's got me shredded up, despite my other pursuits. I just need to find a way to let it be and deal with it.

I've been on two great dates with a cute ( 8 ) 24 year old. We get along great.

Our last date was Monday and I text her today a little back and forth banter and then ask her about getting together.

She counters with : I'm busy through the weekend unless you want to go hog hunting tomorrow night ( meaning Friday, her grandma owns a ranch, with cousins and others living out there)

I usually don't get involved with meeting a girl's family unless we're "official" so I tell her it sounds fun, but since I just moved here I don't have my hunting clothes. Let's do something after the weekend.

She texts: sounds like you're going to miss out on the hogs babe

I'm kind of second guessing if I should have accepted as that does sound pretty damn fun, and being a southern boy, I've been hog hunting before at night. Also, she apparently thinks enough of me to invite her to the family compound to go hunting after two dates.

Update: she just texted " let's get together Sunday?" so, I think I'm going to hold frame and just meet her sunday.

(02-18-2016 10:11 PM)robreke Wrote:  I've been on two great dates with a cute ( 8 ) 24 year old. We get along great.

Our last date was Monday and I text her today a little back and forth banter and then ask her about getting together.

She counters with : I'm busy through the weekend unless you want to go hog hunting tomorrow night ( meaning Friday, her grandma owns a ranch, with cousins and others living out there)

I usually don't get involved with meeting a girl's family unless we're "official" so I tell her it sounds fun, but since I just moved here I don't have my hunting clothes. Let's do something after the weekend.

She texts: sounds like you're going to miss out on the hogs babe

I'm kind of second guessing if I should have accepted as that does sound pretty damn fun, and being a southern boy, I've been hog hunting before at night. Also, she apparently thinks enough of me to invite her to the family compound to go hunting after two dates.

Update: she just texted " let's get together Sunday?" so, I think I'm going to hold frame and just meet her sunday.

Did you fuck her?

If yes - should've gone, sounds fun.

If no - should've given a better excuse.

(02-18-2016 11:48 PM)redbeard Wrote:  

(02-18-2016 10:11 PM)robreke Wrote:  I've been on two great dates with a cute ( 8 ) 24 year old. We get along great.

Our last date was Monday and I text her today a little back and forth banter and then ask her about getting together.

She counters with : I'm busy through the weekend unless you want to go hog hunting tomorrow night ( meaning Friday, her grandma owns a ranch, with cousins and others living out there)

I usually don't get involved with meeting a girl's family unless we're "official" so I tell her it sounds fun, but since I just moved here I don't have my hunting clothes. Let's do something after the weekend.

She texts: sounds like you're going to miss out on the hogs babe

I'm kind of second guessing if I should have accepted as that does sound pretty damn fun, and being a southern boy, I've been hog hunting before at night. Also, she apparently thinks enough of me to invite her to the family compound to go hunting after two dates.

Update: she just texted " let's get together Sunday?" so, I think I'm going to hold frame and just meet her sunday.

Did you fuck her?

If yes - should've gone, sounds fun.

If no - should've given a better excuse.

Yes, we did.

I'm thinking of hitting her up tomorrow to see if the offer's still open, provided my back feels better. I slightly pulled it today.

You made the right move. Being around her kinfolk (with guns I might add) and you're not rock solid about your commitment to her is nothing but stress.

It's not so much about winning her family over, but at this point you don't like her enough to invest.

Chicks really don't understand that stuff. Have you meeting mom and dad two days after you start texting.

WIA

On the teeth subject. I have know 2 chicks skinny bodies solid 7 types both great in the sack. Little to no boobs but had 10k or more of porceline veeners. When they would smile it would light up a room...better yet with half my cock in their mouth.