Friday I was in another town on business.
Drove 8 hours. Was freaking brutal. Had a few leads lined up but they were too much work to get to. (18/19yo, no car, too far for me to drive)
One chick from SA drove to me. Meet at bar. Cute face, ok body. Body could be amazing with some gym activity.
Kiss closed and sent her off. She wants to meet again. I was way too tired to try anything. Soon as I got to my room I passed out. I probably could have banged but I couldn't find it in me to lay down game. Her defenses were somewhat up and I didn't care enough to want to work for the bang.
I dropped the ball but I didn't care really

Saturday----

Saturday I Take the 8/9 hour drive back to my town. I have a few SA chicks lined up but I set my sites on one. I tell her off the bat im driving a few hours into the city. She says ok ill wait for you. Exactly what i wanted to hear, no shit test, no questions, no thought. ... Just a simple "yes". The others I ignore because I just don't care anymore since im driving and have no time for logistical setup hell.

I get to town and she's at some young party. Initially in my mind im thinking she's a hooker since she's from SA. I was pissed. But it turns out she WAS at a party. I pick her up we spend 20 minutes in my car talking. In my mind im thinking " this chick is cool." She likes my music, she doesn't listen to crap music, she's actually cute, decent body, can carry a conversation, blah blah etc.
We go to sushi, it was awesome. She decided she would leave her phone in my car so she can enjoy each other's company. I guess that's good? By this time its 1am and I'm freakin tired. Its now or never. She was enjoying my playlist and I ask her where am I dropping her off. She said she wasn't ready to go home. I told her to come with me to my place, which she says ok. It was more like "whatever you want to do. " (This was one of the rare moments I just wanted to go home and sleep. I was kinda hoping she would want to go home, I didn't think I had the energy to keep hanging out or even put in a good bang session.)

Go to my usual hotel and they are booked. Rates are double. Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuk.
I decide since I know she's probably DTF I would just call it a night and not pay double for a room. I was prepared to let the bang go, I was freakin tired.

I ask her where am I dropping her off and she just does not want to go home. For whatever reason she just wanted to hang out with me, (or her home life with her mom sucks.). I must admit the night was cool. It was simple, inexpensive, she didn't drink, I don't drink, so we had sober fun times.

I decide let me bang this since it's right in my face. I summoned some energy and I find an alternate cheaper hotel.

We go upstsirs and she just takes off her clothes and jumps in the shower. She's addicted to my music playlist, I'm playing that, hop in the shower and we're making out soon as Im in the shower. Nice bang in the shower then go to sleep. She was a good bang. No resistance.

5am wake her up and bang. twice. She is the definition of "banged my brains out." She put in a solid good bang, we got wild. We had a serious two-bang session that lasted into the morning. Ive never really put in this kind of work but I laid it down until she had a few uncontrollable spasms. I was spent. She was spent. I drove home, showered, ate, and passed out.
Right now my appetite is through the roof I've been eating all day.

She didn't ask for money, she didn't bring up SA or gifts, she really just took what I gave and was appreciative. And it wasn't much. Texted me later in the afternoon saying she had the best time and let's do it again, wants to listen to my music.

Ive had not even one message from Match.com. but SA has been good to me. I actually have way too many numbers off SA than I can keep up with

I had to deal with this girl at work for about 2 hours today that I absolutely want to hate fuck.

Short hair, tattoos all over, half ass attempt at dressing up and just looks sort of slutty trashy. I can't stand it but would absolutely demolish that ass.

Had a dream...well, nightmare...this morning this girl I had a couple rounds in the sack with told me she was pregnant with my kid. After a few minutes, I woke up enough to realize it was just a dream, besides the timeline wouldn't have worked out (it was nearly a year ago).

Such a relief.

Pitched for drinks later this week, and girl says "Let me know when and where. Let's avoid couple places."

I'm not sure how to interpret this. I'm sure the V-Day context has something to do with it, though. What do you guys think she meant by "avoiding couples places"?

It sounds like she maybe on the fence about you, so I'm guessing she means any place that is romantic and intimate. Is this a first date?

After her comment, I'd start off at a more fun, non intimate place. You could start the date at a more platonic venue and attempt to bounce to a second venue and move to a more intimate place. Get her to have a few drinks, game her and see if you can get her to change her tune.

Makes a lot of sense. Yes it's a first date off OKC... I'll take her to a place concentrated with cafes and bars, start with a coffee place, so we could just walk to the next bar for drinks if things are going well.

(02-09-2016 07:50 PM)CleanSlate Wrote:  Pitched for drinks later this week, and girl says "Let me know when and where. Let's avoid couple places."

I'm not sure how to interpret this. I'm sure the V-Day context has something to do with it, though. What do you guys think she meant by "avoiding couples places"?

(02-09-2016 09:06 PM)CleanSlate Wrote:  Makes a lot of sense. Yes it's a first date off OKC... I'll take her to a place concentrated with cafes and bars, start with a coffee place, so we could just walk to the next bar for drinks if things are going well.

First date off of OKC, around Valentine's Day, and you're going with the daytime coffee date?

(02-09-2016 09:16 PM)redbeard Wrote:  First date off of OKC, around Valentine's Day, and you're going with the daytime coffee date?

It'll be in the evening. I have time to decide since it's not for another 2 days. So you're saying I should just ignore what she said and take her to my default wine bar date spot? There will be couples there no doubt.

(02-09-2016 09:06 PM)CleanSlate Wrote:  Makes a lot of sense. Yes it's a first date off OKC... I'll take her to a place concentrated with cafes and bars, start with a coffee place, so we could just walk to the next bar for drinks if things are going well.

Coffee in the evening isn't a bad start, but I'd always choose drinks if I could. A coffee place can be a good comfort builder, especially with girls you sense or know, like this one, maybe a little more stand offish. If you can find a fun coffee lounge/bar combo place that is good too, as she has the option to drink tea/coffee or a drink.

I often start a first date at a place like this and sit across the table from her. Just get her comfortable and hopefully, attracted some. After our drinks there, I'll "spike" with "hey let's check out this fun place nearby"

They always ask ' where are we going?' and I'll give some smart ass answer like, 'we're going to Vegas to lose all our money.'

Then, bounce to a bar with couches where you can get drinks and sit side by side.

(02-09-2016 07:50 PM)CleanSlate Wrote:  Pitched for drinks later this week, and girl says "Let me know when and where. Let's avoid couple places."

I'm not sure how to interpret this. I'm sure the V-Day context has something to do with it, though. What do you guys think she meant by "avoiding couples places"?

Disregard what she says. Go where you want to go. Half of the shit women say is said just to see how you react.

Flaked on a girl who was lagging this evening, got home from the gym, she called, no text, so I just ignored it.

A random 21 year old latin girl hit me back up using one of my lines, I basically was a dick to her, since she requested me send her a pic I called her out on it, and explained she's back on my side of town.

I called her out on have the same BS hours where we'd never meet, I suggested she'll have to set an evening aside for me, I also told her she'd need to meet me in my town. She agreed and will await my schedule.


A strange thing has happened, 2 weeks ago, a plate claimed she got chlamydia from me, I got my test results, negative on EVERYTHING. So I called her on it, she backpedaled and apologized very fast and started playing victim on how she's all sick and also is stressed out.

I'm very confused....the tests came out negative for my herpes, I haven't had an outbreak or any symptoms since the supposed initial outbreak (they never did a blood test). I'm getting tested again later this week for a specific herpes test, if it turns out negative.....a YUGE weight will be lifted off my shoulders.

I spoke to the trainer girl in my rotation last week about asking me if I'm seeing anyone else. I was vague, told her "when I'm with you I'm with you, when I'm not, I'm not" She knows I'm extremely busy - seems she was satisfied with my answer and still wants to hangout.

The indian girl in my rotation went silent on me, it was only a matter of time, I was kind of tired of her constant attitude anyways. No upside to keeping her around.

I'm not in a funk, I'm in a I don't give a fuck mode when it comes to girls right now. I've got a few new notches this year so far, I've got a few prospects, but I'm tired of gaming, I might take a break, who knows, this shit turns on and off like a light switch.

(02-09-2016 07:50 PM)CleanSlate Wrote:  Pitched for drinks later this week, and girl says "Let me know when and where. Let's avoid couple places."

I'm not sure how to interpret this. I'm sure the V-Day context has something to do with it, though. What do you guys think she meant by "avoiding couples places"?

The market is saturated with guys looking for romantic relationships. Even guys who act like they don't care, even guys who might pump and dump at times, even the guys you least expect it, are looking for a relationship. I suppose we all are on a certain level.

She's just making sure you don't go all lubby dubby on her.

Thanks guys for clarifying. Once again, this forum, as a resource, comes through.

(02-10-2016 02:02 AM)kaotic Wrote:  [Snipped]

A random 21 year old latin girl hit me back up using one of my lines, I basically was a dick to her, since she requested me send her a pic I called her out on it, and explained she's back on my side of town.

[snipped]

Can you expand?
You called her out for requesting a pic?

(02-10-2016 02:02 AM)kaotic Wrote:  ...
I spoke to the trainer girl in my rotation last week about asking me if I'm seeing anyone else. I was vague, told her "when I'm with you I'm with you, when I'm not, I'm not" She knows I'm extremely busy - seems she was satisfied with my answer and still wants to hangout.
...

Golden, I will steal that line.

Latest date, glad to say it wasn't off Tinder or any other OLD, just good old fashioned in person game.

Long story short, I was asked to give an interview workshop, and we later broke into smaller groups, one of which I led. I notice this really cute brunette with big eyes and a nice face is in my group. As she's jotting down notes she looks up and I catch her eyes.

Big point gained. I didn't dart away, but instead held it with a smirk and slightly lowered eyelids. She smiles and looks down again.

After the session, I approach her, since she's talking with a group of other girls, it's natural to give her my number for the purpose of "more practice", etc.

Hit her up for drinks. Man oh man does this girl test my patience. She often will go for an entire day without responding to my texts.

Big point gained. Only once did I have to text her twice in a row, and a few hours apart at that, to get her to respond. Otherwise, I stayed the course and waited till she responded.

Finally get her out for dinner. Nice conversation, this is really where I started to pick the flow back up after a long break, we're vibing well. It's noted as important that you should avoid simply agreeing and nodding eagerly with everything that she says like "Oh I like Chobani too" in a chode manner. Rather, I've finally begun to develop the kind of lifestyle and ambition many of this chicks dream of living, thanks to game and the forum.

I mean travelling, seeing the world, great experiences, really living, exploring, and having an steadfast resolve to do so, not like their flaky ass friends who cancelled last minute on their Cancun spring break plans or whatever. I'm finally getting to a point where the girls are nodding along to me, jumping in with how that's the life they'd like to live too.

Bounce to a drugstore so she can get makeup (lol), establish touch, around her waist, fiddling with her hair while she compares tones. Bounce to a cupcake place, her choice, but I went along with it because she was literally offering to venue bounce and build comfort for me, and I'm not turning that down. Take her hand; going well.

We get her a cupcake, and I take her down by a dimly lit waterway, because it's just off of the cupcake place, she frets about the mud, and I tell her she'll be fine. Get to the stairs back up, pull her to me and go for the kiss. Responds well and eagerly. Things are looking very solid now. She tells me straight up- all the guys I know are too stuck up, you're the first one to make me feel like I can be myself.

And this is where I mess up. This one aspect is probably the single biggest obstacle keeping me from advancing to a higher level. I make some offhand comment, which I don't recall anymore, and she makes a sex joke out of it. I was unable to project non-judgment well enough, as per the secret society thread, and she nervously laughs.

Went very slowly downhill from there. She is no longer interested in holding hands, and at the end of it tells me she wants to take it slow. I will crosspost this to the secret society thread for advice as well.

(02-10-2016 02:04 PM)swuglyfe Wrote:  Latest date, glad to say it wasn't off Tinder or any other OLD, just good old fashioned in person game.

Long story short, I was asked to give an interview workshop, and we later broke into smaller groups, one of which I led. I notice this really cute brunette with big eyes and a nice face is in my group. As she's jotting down notes she looks up and I catch her eyes.

Big point gained. I didn't dart away, but instead held it with a smirk and slightly lowered eyelids. She smiles and looks down again.

After the session, I approach her, since she's talking with a group of other girls, it's natural to give her my number for the purpose of "more practice", etc.

Hit her up for drinks. Man oh man does this girl test my patience. She often will go for an entire day without responding to my texts.

Big point gained. Only once did I have to text her twice in a row, and a few hours apart at that, to get her to respond. Otherwise, I stayed the course and waited till she responded.

Finally get her out for dinner. Nice conversation, this is really where I started to pick the flow back up after a long break, we're vibing well. It's noted as important that you should avoid simply agreeing and nodding eagerly with everything that she says like "Oh I like Chobani too" in a chode manner. Rather, I've finally begun to develop the kind of lifestyle and ambition many of this chicks dream of living, thanks to game and the forum.

I mean travelling, seeing the world, great experiences, really living, exploring, and having an steadfast resolve to do so, not like their flaky ass friends who cancelled last minute on their Cancun spring break plans or whatever. I'm finally getting to a point where the girls are nodding along to me, jumping in with how that's the life they'd like to live too.

Bounce to a drugstore so she can get makeup (lol), establish touch, around her waist, fiddling with her hair while she compares tones. Bounce to a cupcake place, her choice, but I went along with it because she was literally offering to venue bounce and build comfort for me, and I'm not turning that down. Take her hand; going well.

We get her a cupcake, and I take her down by a dimly lit waterway, because it's just off of the cupcake place, she frets about the mud, and I tell her she'll be fine. Get to the stairs back up, pull her to me and go for the kiss. Responds well and eagerly. Things are looking very solid now. She tells me straight up- all the guys I know are too stuck up, you're the first one to make me feel like I can be myself.

And this is where I mess up. This one aspect is probably the single biggest obstacle keeping me from advancing to a higher level. I make some offhand comment, which I don't recall anymore, and she makes a sex joke out of it. I was unable to project non-judgment well enough, as per the secret society thread, and she nervously laughs.

Went very slowly downhill from there. She is no longer interested in holding hands, and at the end of it tells me she wants to take it slow. I will crosspost this to the secret society thread for advice as well.

i notice this one now too. hell is going on its like they're reading the same blog or book...i.e. taking all day to respond to text then responding like its all good. fuuuuk.
anyway, can't comment on the rest, hopefully someone can chime in to get her back in the fold i.e. bang city

(02-07-2016 03:43 PM)topdog Wrote:  Gents,

I am kinda running a harem. For this Valentine's Day, my guess is it is best to spend the day alone so no girl gets the wrong hopes of becoming monogamous or serious, am I wrong?

I was starting to write something up then remembered that I've covered a lot of this before on my blog (fuck I hate that word) when I had a nice harem going. I really need to start posting on that again. Using this forum has killed my outlet there, but there's some good info:

https://aneroidocean.wordpress.com/2012/...-day-2012/

https://aneroidocean.wordpress.com/2015/...tines-day/

https://aneroidocean.wordpress.com/2013/...the-heart/

And don't forget about the Male Valentine's Day. Steak and a Blowjob Day, March 14th.

It's been a good week with some new dates and girls coming into the picture. Have a second date tonight with a tall Latina girl.

Today at the grocery I direct approached a sharp looking woman. Mid 20s, tall white girl with wholesome midwestern look. Green eyes, brunette hair and great smile. She was wearing a black blouse and bright green skirt, with flats. Her shapely toned legs is what sealed the approach. A rather conservative look in dress though, which I like.

She lit up right away at my opener. We had a good 7 or so minute conversation. When I suggested a meet up she was eagerly nodding before I could finish the question. Went for my phone and the battery was dead. I asked her to call my number which she did, but I thought she may have hung up a bit quick after it dialed though I did see it go through. She said 'let me know when you get it' and I told her I'd text her a bit later.

When I got to my truck, I charged my phone and waited 5 minutes for all missed calls and texts to come on and I had a few, but no number from her.

I went back in the store with 2 % power and couldn't find her anywhere. SHIT!! All I know is her first name and that she's a political consultant in town. I'm really disappointed as this girl was a strong 8, just the way I like them and quite bubbly and nice to talk to.

I guess I could either start randomly calling consulting firms in town to find her and asking if a "Kim" works there ( romantic in movies/ stalkerish in real life) or hope I bump into her again one day randomly. In a city this size, that'll most likely be never or forever down the road when she's got a guy.

Damn weak android phone batteries.

18 yo chick I met off SA wants to meet again tomorrow for another bang. Daytime booty call. Really don't want to put up $ for a hotel. At least not tomorrow since I have to be home in the evening.

Daybang problems.

Question about non-verbal communication/IOIs(Indications of interest)

I've had this happen a few times, and it's really made me wonder if I missed an opportunity.

The situation goes as follows: I'm in a public place, in this example a shop. I'm waiting at the till and there is a woman next to me. We're being help up slightly by the slow service. I notice in my peripheral vision that the woman is looking at me, I continue being oblivious to her presence, almost ignoring her. She then reaches for something on the counter, which requires her to enter fully my 'personal space'. Her body is inches away from mine when she does that.

The other instances where this has happened have been similar.

Is it an IOI? Or am I reading too much into it.

(02-10-2016 06:07 PM)robreke Wrote:  It's been a good week with some new dates and girls coming into the picture. Have a second date tonight with a tall Latina girl.

Today at the grocery I direct approached a sharp looking woman. Mid 20s, tall white girl with wholesome midwestern look. Green eyes, brunette hair and great smile. She was wearing a black blouse and bright green skirt, with flats. Her shapely toned legs is what sealed the approach. A rather conservative look in dress though, which I like.

She lit up right away at my opener. We had a good 7 or so minute conversation. When I suggested a meet up she was eagerly nodding before I could finish the question. Went for my phone and the battery was dead. I asked her to call my number which she did, but I thought she may have hung up a bit quick after it dialed though I did see it go through. She said 'let me know when you get it' and I told her I'd text her a bit later.

When I got to my truck, I charged my phone and waited 5 minutes for all missed calls and texts to come on and I had a few, but no number from her.

I went back in the store with 2 % power and couldn't find her anywhere. SHIT!! All I know is her first name and that she's a political consultant in town. I'm really disappointed as this girl was a strong 8, just the way I like them and quite bubbly and nice to talk to.

I guess I could either start randomly calling consulting firms in town to find her and asking if a "Kim" works there ( romantic in movies/ stalkerish in real life) or hope I bump into her again one day randomly. In a city this size, that'll most likely be never or forever down the road when she's got a guy.

Damn weak android phone batteries.

That's a damn shame. You should've had her text you. SMS messages go through once you have reception and the phone is back on. It's my understanding that missed calls don't show as missed calls if your phone isn't on to miss it and register it locally.

@rob I remember giving a girl my number and she didn't text me for two, maybe 3 weeks. Chances are, if her interest is high enough she'll shoot you a text or call at some point.