I realized something this weekend. I was thinking about how much more mature I am than a year ago. And way more than the year before that. And way way more than a few years ago. The stupid mistakes I make nowadays with chics are so much smaller than before.

Gaming (being single, dating, seeing chics, approach-close, etc) is hands-down one of the most maturing experience I've ever gone through. It's ridiculous to me how much I've changed in the last 4 years, specifically due to the ups and downs in having relationships with many women.

I daresay it ranks nearly equal, but different, than going through a divorce:
- Divorce. It broke me completely. Basically knocked me to my foundation, allowing me to fix some of the concrete before rebuilding myself. In gaming terms, it solidified my deep inner game.
- Gaming the last few years. Not the same magnitude as divorce, but the texts send with no reply, the awkward lines, the boisterous way I've run my mouth without solicitation to my detriment, the curiosity of whether a chic "likes me" or not...have solidified my game and reinforced my inner game.
- Making college friends. These are some of my best friends to this day, over a decade later. Most are naturals and married now, so for both reasons they aren't the best to game with, but they're great guys.
- Lifting. Last year made 'gaming' much easier now that I've bulked up a bit. It's also helped my game, as I've had more experiences with hotter women.

Complements of the new year gentlemen
(belated as it is, this is my first Players Lounge post of 2016)

I'm feeling in the zone of late.
Got a 2nd bang & a date scheduled for this week respectively.
Gym is also keeping my on an even keel mentally.

Couple options in the pipeline.
I feel some good leads that should take until February to sift through & harvest.

Even though I hate to... I've fired up the dating apps again.
Full thrusters ahead.

Side note.
Came across my ex's Badoo profile.
I see she's single & ready to mingle.
Good for her. Anyways.

There's a couple honeys going on about their life.
Oblivious to the fact that sometime this year...
I'm a find em, approach em, seduce em, fuck em.

Should be a goodyear.

Lemme never make the same mistakes.

It's overcast, going to rain soon, the streets are nearly deserted, the odd chubby german backpacker walks past, or an hauty office worker chick, or even if I'm lucky, a forgettable Chinese.

In this soul sucking Oceania city, it would be easy for me to quit, and just say, I'll start approaching when i move to one of those nice cities I visited on holiday, Prague, Budapest, Berlin...where hot girls were around every street corner....

But I prepare for those times. And then a slim Korean international student walks past, moneyed up with a weird sense of fashion. I put my Kindle with Daybang back in my bag, and I approach. Once a day! Game is life

(01-11-2016 12:22 PM)heavy Wrote:  Gaming (being single, dating, seeing chics, approach-close, etc) is hands-down one of the most maturing experience I've ever gone through. It's ridiculous to me how much I've changed in the last 4 years, specifically due to the ups and downs in having relationships with many women.

With 2015 coming to an end (and kaotic leaving his ex) I've been reflecting on this.

What if I had stayed in my LTR last year? I would be fat, boring, slightly depressed, or even worse, married.

Instead - I left, and have completely dove into fitness, game, and work.

Picking up women is the most demanding challenge for the following:

-There's always room for improvement.

-High barrier to entry. Like Ronnie Coleman said "everybody wanna have sex, nobody wanna do these damn approaches."

-Variability. Women are unpredictable. Even when guys do high volume approach sprees, it's difficult to determine if it's an issue with your game or her sexual availability.

-Honesty. You don't "almost" get laid a lot. You either put your penis inside many vaginas or you don't.

"Don't hate the player, hate the game."

Do you agree? If you were teaching a newbie this, how would you explain that game is the most humbling experience?

Red,

At the shop I run on the weekends, I've got 3 kids who are 19, 19a, and a newly 18 year old.

The 19 year old:

Good looking dude, played football in high school, isn't jacked, but definitely an alpha looking cat.

He was dating this girl who goes to one of the top part/hot girl colleges in the southwest, she was a cute chick, they would go back and forth of breaking up, he got mad because he told her to not go out, she started lying about going out at college.

I warned him not to get back together, he did anyways, he then realize what I had been telling him was all true. That you can't control a bitch, you gotta put your foot down or fold your cards and walk away. Which he finally did, now he's on a tinder tear and hanging with girls in his social circle.

He even saw her at a party and told her to fuck off and called her a whore. A few months ago I would've never expected that. (He found out she fucked some 17 year old)

The 19a year old:

This cat is fucking hilarious, good looking, he's mexican, suave, cool mother fucker. Definitely has alpha traits, also isn't afraid of confrontation and scraps dudes a bit.

He's got the hottest chick of the group, she's quiet, feminine, has that latina sass, and a skinny waist, mexi ass.

He's been with her since they were 16, aka high school sweethearts. They've been through ALOT of shit. This dude is a natural player in my eyes.

He doesn't put up with bullshit with his girl, he doesn't chase her, he's gamed girls on the side before, and he'll put her in her place if he needs to.
He's definitely flirted with girls in the shop also.

He's rarely needed advice and I rarely need to give him any.


The new 18 year old:

Dude is dating what I believe is a 21/22 year old girl. They broke up because he wanted to go snowboarding with his friends. (He did promise or told her they would hangout before). She threw a tantrum about it and they broke up.

This is where I came and explained to her, he should be dating younger since he can't go to bars, she's guilt tripping him on twitter and FB. That he needs to walk away and if she comes crawling back it's on her terms.

He literally had his mind blown with my advice and how I completely read how his girl was. I had the backing of 19a helping me confirm the bullshit she was pulling.

He was shocked, he was frustrated, he was confused, scared of losing her.

I told he needed to quit that, he even had a girl hit him up at work and he was stoked about that - until we found out he caved and got back with his girl.

BUT he did it on his own terms and told her if she pulled that shit again they were done.

I've got hopes for him, but he's young and a bit weak. I always follow up with him at work, to make sure shits cool.

He's got a long away to go.



All 3 kids listen to my stories, how to game women, how to text/what to text. They learned lessons from my mistakes, and I love being able to pass this knowledge to these guys who have a sponge for this.

I agree with you Red:

I'm brutally honest with these kids which is key, I show them how brutal things can be, by storytelling and using myself as the example.

I'm always improving, reading, and trying new things. I tell the guys when, how, and why I do things to bang girls.

With variability, I always say, you just don't know with females, they can be a light switch.


The most important thing with me with these kids is being honest and providing examples of bad/good situations by storytelling. I always throw in some jokes for a laugh, but it's all truth.

(01-12-2016 08:24 AM)redbeard Wrote:  

(01-11-2016 12:22 PM)heavy Wrote:  Gaming (being single, dating, seeing chics, approach-close, etc) is hands-down one of the most maturing experience I've ever gone through. It's ridiculous to me how much I've changed in the last 4 years, specifically due to the ups and downs in having relationships with many women.

With 2015 coming to an end (and kaotic leaving his ex) I've been reflecting on this.

What if I had stayed in my LTR last year? I would be fat, boring, slightly depressed, or even worse, married.

Instead - I left, and have completely dove into fitness, game, and work.

Picking up women is the most demanding challenge for the following:

-There's always room for improvement.

-High barrier to entry. Like Ronnie Coleman said "everybody wanna have sex, nobody wanna do these damn approaches."

-Variability. Women are unpredictable. Even when guys do high volume approach sprees, it's difficult to determine if it's an issue with your game or her sexual availability.

-Honesty. You don't "almost" get laid a lot. You either put your penis inside many vaginas or you don't.

"Don't hate the player, hate the game."

Do you agree? If you were teaching a newbie this, how would you explain that game is the most humbling experience?

My LTR is in denial right now. Ive made it clear that if we cant be in the same city, theres no point in pursuing a relationship which will only be maintained through words via the internet/ phone.

That being said, i'll miss all the home cooked meals and steady stream of sex.

She has various qualities that I want the future mother of my children to have.

Speak the same language, low notch count (1 guy before me), feminine, attactive, cares for me, loyal &c. But shes not doing much with her life and is constantly bugging me to spend time with her.

Anyway, we've spent 5 days in a row together. when she left today I noticed something strange, I actually started to miss her and felt kinda lonely.

Anyone else ever get like this after living with the girlfriend for a stretch of time?

(01-12-2016 08:24 AM)redbeard Wrote:  

(01-11-2016 12:22 PM)heavy Wrote:  Gaming (being single, dating, seeing chics, approach-close, etc) is hands-down one of the most maturing experience I've ever gone through. It's ridiculous to me how much I've changed in the last 4 years, specifically due to the ups and downs in having relationships with many women.

With 2015 coming to an end (and kaotic leaving his ex) I've been reflecting on this.

What if I had stayed in my LTR last year? I would be fat, boring, slightly depressed, or even worse, married.

Instead - I left, and have completely dove into fitness, game, and work.

Picking up women is the most demanding challenge for the following:

-There's always room for improvement.

-High barrier to entry. Like Ronnie Coleman said "everybody wanna have sex, nobody wanna do these damn approaches."

-Variability. Women are unpredictable. Even when guys do high volume approach sprees, it's difficult to determine if it's an issue with your game or her sexual availability.

-Honesty. You don't "almost" get laid a lot. You either put your penis inside many vaginas or you don't.

"Don't hate the player, hate the game."

Do you agree? If you were teaching a newbie this, how would you explain that game is the most humbling experience?

I would tell a newbie, if approaching was easy - everyone would be doing it

When compared to the general pop, there is a small number of men who work up the nerve to approach; out of that an even smaller number who have their act together.

-Even more important...there are no cheat codes or short cuts

There is a rarely discussed instrinsic value that's reserved for the man who goes after what he wants without reservation or apology. Those things start to manifest themselves in other areas of his life.

Somewhere in there is a life lesson

Tonight's date off OKC was a complete flop. She was ok looking, but the vibe was just friendly... just didn't light that primal fire in me. Charge it to the game.

(01-12-2016 03:01 PM)Agreddor Wrote:  My LTR is in denial right now. Ive made it clear that if we cant be in the same city, theres no point in pursuing a relationship which will only be maintained through words via the internet/ phone.

That being said, i'll miss all the home cooked meals and steady stream of sex.

She has various qualities that I want the future mother of my children to have.

Speak the same language, low notch count (1 guy before me), feminine, attactive, cares for me, loyal &c. But shes not doing much with her life and is constantly bugging me to spend time with her.

Anyway, we've spent 5 days in a row together. when she left today I noticed something strange, I actually started to miss her and felt kinda lonely.

Anyone else ever get like this after living with the girlfriend for a stretch of time?

Why are you moving away? If she's got all those qualities why don't you convince her to come with you?

I'm the opposite of you, I couldn't think of much worse than spending 5 days in a row with any one person, let alone a girl.
The longest I have done recently is 3 days and by the end of I was climbing the walls and wanting my own space and to do my own thing.

When I was with my ex it was OK we had our own house so could escape each other find our own space. When someone is staying wit you and you're forced to send all your time together, I hate that.

(01-12-2016 08:24 AM)redbeard Wrote:  

(01-11-2016 12:22 PM)heavy Wrote:  Gaming (being single, dating, seeing chics, approach-close, etc) is hands-down one of the most maturing experience I've ever gone through. It's ridiculous to me how much I've changed in the last 4 years, specifically due to the ups and downs in having relationships with many women.

With 2015 coming to an end (and kaotic leaving his ex) I've been reflecting on this.

What if I had stayed in my LTR last year? I would be fat, boring, slightly depressed, or even worse, married.

Instead - I left, and have completely dove into fitness, game, and work.

Picking up women is the most demanding challenge for the following:

-There's always room for improvement.

-High barrier to entry. Like Ronnie Coleman said "everybody wanna have sex, nobody wanna do these damn approaches."

-Variability. Women are unpredictable. Even when guys do high volume approach sprees, it's difficult to determine if it's an issue with your game or her sexual availability.

-Honesty. You don't "almost" get laid a lot. You either put your penis inside many vaginas or you don't.

"Don't hate the player, hate the game."

Do you agree? If you were teaching a newbie this, how would you explain that game is the most humbling experience?

Go out anywhere anytime and just hangout and meet new people with the newbie. In my opinion it's baby steps and half the battle is learning that just because someone is a stranger doesn't mean they will judge you for talking to them and even if they do nothing will happen.

Approach anxiety is all fear of rejection. If they can learn how to make new friends and hold conversation then they can learn to reframe themselves so they can learn how to game.

Another thing is that many of these people can't talk about something other than themselves or talk too much for their own good. A key part of game is knowing when to shutup, which more people should do.

(01-12-2016 11:06 PM)Roardog Wrote:  

(01-12-2016 03:01 PM)Agreddor Wrote:  My LTR is in denial right now. Ive made it clear that if we cant be in the same city, theres no point in pursuing a relationship which will only be maintained through words via the internet/ phone.

That being said, i'll miss all the home cooked meals and steady stream of sex.

She has various qualities that I want the future mother of my children to have.

Speak the same language, low notch count (1 guy before me), feminine, attactive, cares for me, loyal &c. But shes not doing much with her life and is constantly bugging me to spend time with her.

Anyway, we've spent 5 days in a row together. when she left today I noticed something strange, I actually started to miss her and felt kinda lonely.

Anyone else ever get like this after living with the girlfriend for a stretch of time?

Why are you moving away? If she's got all those qualities why don't you convince her to come with you?

I'm the opposite of you, I couldn't think of much worse than spending 5 days in a row with any one person, let alone a girl.
The longest I have done recently is 3 days and by the end of I was climbing the walls and wanting my own space and to do my own thing.

When I was with my ex it was OK we had our own house so could escape each other find our own space. When someone is staying wit you and you're forced to send all your time together, I hate that.

She's graduating once term ends and a LDR is not feasible

An example of relationship euphemisms & how they differ amongst the sexes.

"It wasn't working out"

When a guy says it wasn't working out.
What he really means is, they were not having sex.

When a girl says it wasn't working out.
What she really means is, all they were doing was just having sex.

Starting from the week of the 4th, I have been seeing an increase in responses to my online game. I actually managed to get two dates on Thursday 7th and Saturday 9th with a 21 yo and a 25 yo (I am 24). In between a long time scheduled meetup with a 18 yo. All from online game (Adopteunmec- Adoptaguy)

Made out with the 21 yo chubby 6, had some shots with her in a bar,never saw nor heard about her again :/

Spent weeks building a connection with the 18yo (face 7 or 7.5, body 6), had our private jokes, etc. Met her on Friday 7th, had some pie with her (she could not come to mine, she had to take a train at 6 PM and she did not finish her driving lessons before 4 PM). We made out for like almost 1h at the train station, excellent vibe, she was asking me if I was seeing other girls, if I had the same jokes with them, if I would miss her etc. Then next day, I get a long ass message from her saying that it was too fast for her, she did not expect all of this when she came on the dating site, she preferred focusing on her studies etc etc (buyer's remorse). She even deactivated her account. Do you guys think it is because she had another guy? Well, I would prefer believing that her justification is the true reason...

I had some kind of oneitis, but then I was like "fuck it". Went back to AUM and managed to secure have a date for that night. I went on a date with the 25 yo girl, HB 8, a dinner date (yeah I know, but she did not take the bait when I invited her for a pizza at mine...)

Anyway she is too bossy, constantly challenging my jokes and my humor while still laughing with them (even tough all other girls I have been with have been laughing and basically accepted to give me a date because of that). I see her shit tests one after another, and tried to deflect them. I only got the cheek when I tried to kiss her even though after eating we went to a park to chill (bait did not work),and after that next to a beautiful river (yeah, I love romantic settings). Anyway any interested girl would have known what's up and go for the kiss, but she wasn't having any of it. I think I was too different from her world (she is in design and fashion and she was looking for a job and someone to settle down with, I am engineer and foreigner and not keen on settling down.

I also was supposed to have a date on Sunday but she flaked and texted me a long ass justification. When I called her on her total of 3 postponing of our date, she also wrote another long message "yeah I want to see you, I am very bad at scheduling meetings, I have a lot of work, I know it is a bother, I promise I will be more cautious next time yada yada". Did not respond yet, will hit her up in a couple days.

Anyway this Wednesday night I got another date in a bar with a 6.5 girl who does theatre, cinema (like real acting) acting super interested in me. She spent the whole date talking about her dreams of becoming a comedian etc, sometimes I empathised with her (I did some acting classes too). I tried a couple of touches from time to time but I could see it wasn't working. She is just out of a LTR and kinda the feminist type so meh. But I think even if she did not have to film the day after, banging her that night would have been impossible. Maybe a day2 will happen, we are supposed to "tell each other about it".

Got another (online) date scheduled for tonight (Thursday), possibly another one that very night (double booking is always good, anyway I could postpone of them on Friday if necessary)

In short I have started getting dates from online game, which means my game is obviously becoming better. My messages 'work' the most on artsy and relatively sophisticated girls. Even though I still got dates with heavy smokers and drinker ones.
Problem is transforming them into bangs. I think I will do the same I did with my last lay (LTR not included): invite her at mine to cook some dish/make some drink.
Go for BlurredSevens zero date bang.


Wish me good luck!!
Peace

It always makes my day seeing a few gems on Tinder.

WB From right to left in that order.

Far left looks SIFish, but WB with glasses on.
Far right has slut face and is more my style.
Middle eyes and smile, red lip stick, instant boner.

I matched with a pretty hot blonde on that app, but she didn't really give much to the convo. Why are a lot of the hot chicks so boring? Ha, won't complain too much. Haven't tried to get any girls out as of late. I've had a bit of a priority shift. A lot of these girls will waste your time.

New Study on Breast Preference vs. Socioeconomic Status

Quote:The men from the low socioeconomic background rated bigger breasts as more attractive than did men from the medium socioeconomic background, who in turn endorsed larger breasts as more appealing than men from the high socioeconomic background. In other words, poorer men liked larger breasts.

TEAM ASS MAN



TEAM SMALL TITS

(01-13-2016 09:40 PM)redbeard Wrote:  New Study on Breast Preference vs. Socioeconomic Status

Quote:The men from the low socioeconomic background rated bigger breasts as more attractive than did men from the medium socioeconomic background, who in turn endorsed larger breasts as more appealing than men from the high socioeconomic background. In other words, poorer men liked larger breasts.

TEAM ASS MAN



TEAM SMALL TITS

Whatever helps you sleep at night

Quote:The men from the low socioeconomic background rated bigger breasts as more attractive than did men from the medium socioeconomic background, who in turn endorsed larger breasts as more appealing than men from the high socioeconomic background. In other words, poorer men liked larger breasts.

No no, it all about how backwards primitive your culture is. If you like ass over tits, you still live in a cave and dream of modern luxuries like electricity or flushing toilets.

(01-13-2016 09:38 PM)~wrIghter~ Wrote:  Why are a lot of the hot chicks so boring? Ha, won't complain too much. Haven't tried to get any girls out as of late. I've had a bit of a priority shift. A lot of these girls will waste your time.

They aren't boring, they just opened a bag full of dicks and are picking the ones they like, they could give a shit less about the others.

Bitches are time rapers man.

(01-13-2016 06:53 PM)mikado Wrote:  Starting from the week of the 4th, I have been seeing an increase in responses to my online game. I actually managed to get two dates on Thursday 7th and Saturday 9th with a 21 yo and a 25 yo (I am 24). In between a long time scheduled meetup with a 18 yo. All from online game (Adopteunmec- Adoptaguy)

Last year I went to several first dates with girls from that site (Adoptaunchico). Had my share of SIFs (now I have developed countermeasures to detect them before the date) and crazies. I landed 2 bangs from it and did a lucky draw and got my 20 y/o now ex-FWB who was a 7.5 body/6.5 face girl from that site.

Might check that app again, it served me more dates than Tinder here. Or I'd better stop being a pussy and start doing daygame. I ran out of excuses.

How do ya'll get a threesome going without losing the girl?
I got an 18 year old I met from SA first date we banged, second date will be this weekend at my hotel. She told me she kissed a girl for the first time so I want to capitslize on this info....get a 3some going.

Any ideas on how to turn this into reality?
Do you suggest and let her decide as if its her idea or do you command and make her bring the girl over?

I want friday to be fun fun fun

(01-14-2016 12:58 AM)topdog Wrote:  

(01-13-2016 06:53 PM)mikado Wrote:  Starting from the week of the 4th, I have been seeing an increase in responses to my online game. I actually managed to get two dates on Thursday 7th and Saturday 9th with a 21 yo and a 25 yo (I am 24). In between a long time scheduled meetup with a 18 yo. All from online game (Adopteunmec- Adoptaguy)

Last year I went to several first dates with girls from that site (Adoptaunchico). Had my share of SIFs (now I have developed countermeasures to detect them before the date) and crazies. I landed 2 bangs from it and did a lucky draw and got my 20 y/o now ex-FWB who was a 7.5 body/6.5 face girl from that site.

Might check that app again, it served me more dates than Tinder here. Or I'd better stop being a pussy and start doing daygame. I ran out of excuses.

The app is very good. On Tinder I get absolutely 0 matches.
On Adopte I have a ratio of 1 girl who wants to talk with me out of 4 who visit my profile. I can use my poet game on them. Can't do that with Tinder nor night game (pussied out on daygame since months now)

@kaotic, true! I neglect to think about the competition at times. I've been in that, "if we match, she's interested" mindset...which really isn't the case now (more for fun/attention/entertainment purposes).

On a side note, saw some sexy chicks after gym. Anxiety kicked my ass when I was going for the approach, so I backed out. I've found that it really goes up when theirs a crowd of people (except for night game). This could have to do with me not going out enough (I work during the weeks and need to save).

Opening a girl is easy (say anything) but battling your mindset/thoughts is another.

My plan tonight is to meet up with a hot Korean 7 from OKC for drinks.

But I'm feeling I rather watch TV and sleep. Actually secretly hoping she'll flake. Any of you guys ever feel this way, or is something seriously wrong with me?