I got to listing numbers I've gotten for December:
22
4 were deleted - 1 was a bitch, 1 was non responsive, 1 flew back home, 1 selfie was old as fuck
1 was banged, the indian girl who is now in the rotation
14 are still good potentials, attempting to close on dates
3 are on the fence and I'm fighting for their attention

The holidays really does fuck things up, but there's always more numbers.

Currently I have 4 plates:
-the slut I can do anything with, haven't seen her in a bit, she got me an xmas gift
-one that had her best friend die, haven't seen her in 2ish months
-the indian girl I banged last week
-the trainer I banged last week

Some old but potential leads:
-Girl had her phone broken, matched with her in October, she was waiting for me to text her
-Armenian girl was, but now is nexted, only way she's seeing me if she comes over

I'm also keeping track of everything from now on in excel to help me focus.

This Saturday I was out with my AFC friends. We are standing outside of a bar and I spot 2 girls (both 6es but slim and young) I immediately approach them. Open them and it goes well. 1-2 minutes pass and my afc friends decide to join me. As soon as one of my friends opened his mouth I knew the whole approach was over. (guy started to ask them about their jobs. wtf?) Of course they left and went back inside the bar. I got mad told them to never ever interrupt me again when I'm talking to girls. This wasn't the first time this happened.

(12-29-2015 04:32 PM)kaotic Wrote:  1 was banged, the indian girl who is now in the rotation
14 are still good potentials, attempting to close on dates
3 are on the fence and I'm fighting for their attention

Currently I have 4 plates:
-the slut I can do anything with, haven't seen her in a bit, she got me an xmas gift
-one that had her best friend die, haven't seen her in 2ish months
-the indian girl I banged last week
-the trainer I banged last week

Right now, 2 days before the year ends, I am at 0 prospects, 0 plates.

I know, I have to get back in the field and stick to the game plan. But in some way, it also feels good to be "just me".

(12-29-2015 05:19 PM)germanico Wrote:  

(12-29-2015 04:32 PM)kaotic Wrote:  1 was banged, the indian girl who is now in the rotation
14 are still good potentials, attempting to close on dates
3 are on the fence and I'm fighting for their attention

Currently I have 4 plates:
-the slut I can do anything with, haven't seen her in a bit, she got me an xmas gift
-one that had her best friend die, haven't seen her in 2ish months
-the indian girl I banged last week
-the trainer I banged last week

Right now, 2 days before the year ends, I am at 0 prospects, 0 plates.

I know, I have to get back in the field and stick to the game plan. But in some way, it also feels good to be "just me".

There's not a damn thing wrong with that either man, if it feels good and you're happy doing your own thing, embrace that.

I'm in a bit of a rut and chasing numbers and girls can be fun and rewarding along with frustrating and boring.

I am with you, Germanico. But take solace in you have more free time without drama, maybe enjoy time with family and friends.

But once January 1st hits, its game on.

¡A darle!

Taken a week off game. Been visiting my folks on the coast, enjoying the beach, sun and catching up with high school mates. It's the longest dry spell I've had in a long time but it's self enforced and I'm actually enjoying it. It feels a bit weird not seeing or talking to any of my plates or leads and I'm probably going to lose a few but fuck it, it's nice to peace out.
I'm heading back to the big smoke tomorrow for NYE and after that it's game on again.

(12-30-2015 05:01 AM)Roardog Wrote:  Taken a week off game. Been visiting my folks on the coast, enjoying the beach, sun and catching up with high school mates. It's the longest dry spell I've had in a long time but it's self enforced and I'm actually enjoying it. It feels a bit weird not seeing or talking to any of my plates or leads and I'm probably going to lose a few but fuck it, it's nice to peace out.
I'm heading back to the big smoke tomorrow for NYE and after that it's game on again.

Nothing wrong with taking time out for yourself. Just like rest days are critical when lifting weights, rest time is essential to clear the mind and recharge the soul in gaming.

(12-29-2015 04:32 PM)kaotic Wrote:  ...
Currently I have 4 plates:
-the slut I can do anything with, haven't seen her in a bit, she got me an xmas gift
-one that had her best friend die, haven't seen her in 2ish months
-the indian girl I banged last week
-the trainer I banged last week
...

Nice set you have there. I'm sincerely wondering, you count a girl you haven't seen in 2 months a plate? I suppose it's dependent on the nature of your relationship.

(12-29-2015 04:32 PM)kaotic Wrote:  I'm also keeping track of everything from now on in excel to help me focus.

What kinds of details do you record?

Phone number
Age
Ethnicity
Flake Potential
Rating of Sex Quality
Fun Facts



There's a bunch more I could add but was just curious.

(12-30-2015 10:24 AM)heavy Wrote:  

(12-29-2015 04:32 PM)kaotic Wrote:  ...
Currently I have 4 plates:
-the slut I can do anything with, haven't seen her in a bit, she got me an xmas gift
-one that had her best friend die, haven't seen her in 2ish months
-the indian girl I banged last week
-the trainer I banged last week
...

Nice set you have there. I'm sincerely wondering, you count a girl you haven't seen in 2 months a plate? I suppose it's dependent on the nature of your relationship.

Well we've gone 2 months before not seeing eachother, and then hungout every week. She's all fucked up from her friend dying so I'm leaving her be.

The first girl on my list, i've known for over a year and absolutely knows we just fuck, and she's completely fine with that.

(12-30-2015 11:04 AM)Remington Wrote:  

(12-29-2015 04:32 PM)kaotic Wrote:  I'm also keeping track of everything from now on in excel to help me focus.

What kinds of details do you record?

Phone number
Age
Ethnicity
Flake Potential
Rating of Sex Quality
Fun Facts

There's a bunch more I could add but was just curious.

Ethnicity & age might be a good one, flake potential I don't really worry about nor the quality of sex. I keep the basics:

-App
-Dates
-Dates to Bang
-ONS
-Rotational
-Multiple Bangs
-Straight Home Bangs
-No bang ? What else did you do ?

Things like that, I don't want to wast too much time being technical about it.

At target yesterday.

Lil yout was running around causing hell. He goes to his mom about to throw a fit. I give him the look. He stops. Then he smiles, devilishly.

1) The kid, like all kids, knew how to emotionally manipulate his mother. He was born with it.

2) At a certain age, boys still respect men.

3) The smile? Game recognize game.

Now i know, unless he has Machiavellian guidance, he's going to be pushed away from crying, and made to use logical arguments or his own efforts to get what he wants.

WIA

Made the decision to let go a woman who I've been seeing for about a month now. I could sense we were getting close to the "where is this going?" talk and I knew that she was not someone who I wanted to LTR. Nonetheless I feel a little hollow for preemptively pulling the plug. In an homage to Kaotic I'll put out the pros/cons list that led to my decision.

Pros
* Very attractive and extremely well dressed for her age
* Above average body and tight pussy (never had children)
* High sex drive and very passionate
* Easy going and great sense of humor
* Independent personality and not needy with my time
* So far appeared to be low/no drama

Cons
* In her mid 40's and looks older than me. This will only get worse as time goes on
* Never been married or even engaged before (red flag to me)
* Admitted to having "really poor judgement" with guys in her earlier years
* Mentioned just getting out of a turbulent relationship
* Admitted to casually doing soft drugs (pot, ecstasy) also inferred that she's addicted to sleeping pills (ambien)
* Still enjoys clubbing and dancing
* Estranged relationship with her mother though is close with her father and other family members

Personality wise she was extremely close to what I'm looking for in an LTR but in the end the cons weighed too heavily. Thoughts?

Sounds like a good choice. A man in his 40s is not too old. A woman in her 40s is.

You said she is in her 40s but looks older than you but yet is very attractive?

Good you dropped her.

(12-30-2015 12:51 PM)OregonToSoCal Wrote:  Made the decision to let go a woman who I've been seeing for about a month now. I could sense we were getting close to the "where is this going?" talk and I knew that she was not someone who I wanted to LTR. Nonetheless I feel a little hollow for preemptively pulling the plug. In an homage to Kaotic I'll put out the pros/cons list that led to my decision.

Pros
* Very attractive and extremely well dressed for her age
* Above average body and tight pussy (never had children)
* High sex drive and very passionate
* Easy going and great sense of humor
* Independent personality and not needy with my time
* So far appeared to be low/no drama

Cons
* In her mid 40's and looks older than me. This will only get worse as time goes on
* Never been married or even engaged before (red flag to me)
* Admitted to having "really poor judgement" with guys in her earlier years
* Mentioned just getting out of a turbulent relationship
* Admitted to casually doing soft drugs (pot, ecstasy) also inferred that she's addicted to sleeping pills (ambien)
* Still enjoys clubbing and dancing
* Estranged relationship with her mother though is close with her father and other family members

Personality wise she was extremely close to what I'm looking for in an LTR but in the end the cons weighed too heavily. Thoughts?

No way was she LTR material, you made the right choice. There are way too many red flags to keep her around for anything other than sex.

All she's missing is a tramp stamp and a full time job as a bar tender.

Had a date Tuesday with a cute mixed asian chick. Quality girls from online for me is rare. Also tried inviting over this black chick but she'd rather sit at home and eat cookies (her words). She hasn't met anyone off the app yet...and I won't keep pushing it.

Some girls aren't worth it. She agreed that my idea sounded better but wouldn't follow through because I'm a stranger. I may keep her on the back burner for something simple. I'll be spending NYE at the gym and probably kicking it at home resting up. This weekend may be a different story.

Give us a sheet on the date with the mixed asian gal !

I know if I lived near any of the colleges that play in the college football playoffs I would be near/on their campus tonight.

College pussy will be practically thrown at you. New Year's Eve, their schools team is in the playoffs. Happen to get a little drunk whether their team wins or loses.

If they lose they are just so emotional and you console them and it just happens. If they win they want to celebrate that great win. What other way to just let the fun of the night take you into a random strangers bed.

So all you guys near Clemson, Oklahoma, Michigan State or Alabama, I hope you make the right decision. Speaking on that. East Lansing isn't too far of a trip for me.

(12-31-2015 11:34 AM)kaotic Wrote:  Give us a sheet on the date with the mixed asian gal !

Will do!

Last Date of 2015

It was Tuesday when I decided to go outside of the norm and do something different. I had a suite just outside of the city where I'd later meet my date for coffee.

I'm excited, mostly about having a spot of my own for the night and the other for having a chance to redeem myself of the pour game I put on display earlier in the year.

I set out ON TIME, as the venue was just a short walk from where I'd be staying for the evening. Camera in tow, I posted up outside of the venue, listening to music to keep me occupied. 10 after the set meeting time...I'd knew something was up. 15 minutes later, I received a phone call.

She's on the way, but she's definitely going to be late. At least she didn't flake right? We have our date 40 minutes late but it's cool, she's cute. We order and find a booth to sit. From reading game material for about a year, I know the best idea is to sit next to the girl.

We banter about how we matched and why she found me unique. I'd opened her in a message in one of her native languages and we had a pretty decent text convo. I was non-needy, and asked her out the same day we matched. Conversation flowed easily and I wish I could have captured that on video. We had pretty good chemistry and silences didn't cause any awkwardness.

After about 20 minutes, we bounce from the coffee shop to the park area. My own personal haven. Going to this place alone is peaceful. I'm likely to be the only person there sitting in front of the water, embracing the breeze and the vibes of the space. I pull her to a bench where we'd pretty much just talk about tinder and share crazy stories.

Upon sitting down, I beckoned her in closer playfully. Throughout the date, I kept more of a funny/smart/confident demeanor. She was a bit shy but I think she loosened up after I got her laughing more (which was a freaking lot). It had begun to get dark and my plan was to see if she'd like to join me at the spa. That's where I messed up (didn't ask her to bring a bathing suit).

She mentioned that she had made plans to meet with "friends" later on. "Brah..did you even try getting her back to yours?" Yes. If she'd be in town long enough for a day 2 (leaves Saturday), then there may have been a bit of a chance to change the outcome.

As the night began to fall, she mentioned that we should go back closer to her car, as she'd park closer to the first venue. Before we'd get there, I tested her salsa skills and brought her to a familiar statue that we'd passed on the way over.

I'd pull her up, placed her arms over my shoulders, and looked into her eyes and back to the statue. She called me out on it and I went in for the make out. She's 5'1 so I had to bend a bit to reach her mouth. I wrapped my arms around her waist and rested my palms on her butt.

She was the sweetest thing. "No pedestal". Apparently I used too much tongue the first time. I wanted to keep it going but she was holding back a little. She'd tap my chest after a while and we'd make our walk over to the parking lot. We ended up shopping for tooth paste (for her). I made references of getting a bathing suit, but she wasn't having..even though she said "I wonder if they actually sell them here."

We did manage to find a toothbrush that looked like a vibrator. She lit up. After that we bounced back to her car and kissed a bit before she was off.

~=~

My night was pretty dope. When she left, I had a glass of peach something and got tipsy at the hotel bar. My buddy E came through and we rode around the area a bit and shot the shit. Did some random photography, hit the pool before closing, and got food.

There was a group of black girls that he approached in the parking garage, asking which shots they preferred. They proceeded to report us to the staff (Bitches). I ended my stay with a complimentary breakfast and some good tunes on the ride home.

It's not a Disney ending, but its an ending.

Could you give her the run-around on this "where-is-this-going" talk and keep fucking her for a while longer?

Its been a month, you could very well give her the "Its too soon, we should let whatever it is between us run its course naturally" or "I know you just got out of a troubled relationship so Id like to take some time for you to overcome that so that im not just the rebound guy to you" or something as simple and cliche as "I dont want to put labels on us baby"

Women thrive on that kind of drama and if you provide it yourself on small controlled doses, you can keep her around to fuck whenever you want for years.

(12-30-2015 12:51 PM)OregonToSoCal Wrote:  Cons
* Estranged relationship with her mother though is close with her father and other family members

That last bit to me at least is a good thing. Even though shes estranged from her mother, that could be due to her mother being the (excesively) crazy one. If she is in good terms and has a good/close relationship with her father, she cant be that crazy though, its harder for a woman to get along with her father, so her father-daughter relationship from early childhood is her model of all male relationships.

Back in the mix after getting out of a 9 month LTR with a girl who has some strong borderline tendencies (https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-52542.html). What a mind fuck.

Went to an NYE party where I didn't really know anyone. Got to talking with the hottest girl at the party. Isolated, took her to another bar, danced with her, walked her home, exchanged numbers, made a move and got the, 'I just want to hang out as friends' line. Should have escalated more physically while dancing and made the move before we got back to her place. I'm out of town for a bit. Might contact her when I get back but I'll probably let it drop unless she gets in touch. I'm slowly getting back into the bitches are auditioning for me mind set.

Otherwise, I'm hitting the gym, eating right, and prioritizing sleep and recovery. About 3-5 weeks out from being in six-pack shape. My logistics are better now then the last time I was single and I'll start taking full advantage once I get back in town.

Entered the new year with a hot little number.

Wasn't too thrilled with the bar I was at. Very young girls with 30-second attention spans who were running off to "find their friends". I concluded the only way to deal with such an environment was to go caveman.

Finally stumbled across the sexiest girl in the club. My ideal body-type. Skinny with such a tight body and a nice ass.

I see her walking across the bar and I walk directly up to her in front of her path, put my hands on both of her shoulders (or on her arm I don't remember) and say "you're going the wrong way... what's your name?". I was pretty drunk at this point.

She says she is looking for her friends. I say "you'll find them later. we're going to hang out for a bit". My success came from getting super physical super quickly. Within a couple minutes she was grinding all over me. All the guys in the vicinity were looking at us. I kept escalating the sexual tension with the basic push-pull concept. Turning her on to the point she is ready to make out, then pulling away with a sly smirk.

Throughout the interaction she kept trying to drift away (her friends would walk by, interruptions, etc...). I just kept grabbing her arm and pulling her back forcefully. The look on her face said it all (that she was turned on by the dominance and assertiveness).

I tell her we are going to my place for a drink. She says she needs to find her coat so i let her go off with her friends to find it (a risk on my end but it worked out). She came back, I grabbed my coat and we bounced.

Had to fend of some thirsty men on the way home who would come up alongside her while i had my arm around her. Easiest way to ice these chumps out is by pretending they don't exist. Don't look them in the eye, don't engage in conversation. Grab your girl and cross the street and turn your back on the guy.

Rest of the evening was a celebration

3 different plates, 3 different nights

Met up with the Indian girl Weds, I feel sorry for any guy that ends up LTR'ing her. She's a funny little shit talking brat, I think the only reason she texts me still is because I'm a bigger asshole. She always drop shit testing lines:

-"Made some new "friends" that got me into $1000 NYE event" (read: I met some guys and they got me into a club for free)

Didn't bother responding to that text, I did respond to a reply about my NYE picture.

-"I think I turn a bit lesbian when drinking Tequila" (read: I get white girl wasted and want attention)

I responded saying every basic bitch turns into a slight lesbian when they drink, nothing new.

-Look at this guy and how he texted me -insert screenshot of guy double triple texting her super thirsty- (read: look at me getting attention)

I ended up banging her out that night (introduced her to cuffs and blinders), as she gets ready to leave my house she drops this line about how some dude from India did this lame approach of a proposal (think arranged marriage style). I just laugh and say that's weak.

I honestly won't be surprised if she does get married to some IRT/Beta dude who thinks she's still a virgin.


I ended up with the MILF trainer NYE, we went to an old bar I used to frequent with dates. The girl I know who was bartending asked what was up with me and last LTR - I dropped a quick explanation. She thought it was nice and respected that.

Me and my date drink, close out the end of the year. Bounce to another bar, I can tell she's tired, order food to go, we cruise back to my pad. She gets dizzy and ends up passing out in the bathroom a little bit. I wake her up, her mom calls her.

Her mom sounds pissed and wants her home asap, guess her kids up so she bounces.

New Year's Day I didn't do shit, laid around and watched movies for once. I ended up chilling with an old plate whose friend had died. She finally met up with after hours of texting later that night. We banged twice, nothing special.

I have a date lined up today, tommorow and maybe monday.


There's been a few instances where I've almost said fuck it and not hungout with girls. I guess WIA's right, the next few months after ending the LTR might be a bit of a roller coaster. I'm not going to let it control me.


I also need to write up a 2015 Year In Review Guide, I'll work on that this week. Most my focus will be on work and what I want to do next.

I would smash the fuck outta Jurassic Park girl