Post: #2576

(12-23-2015 02:42 PM)PrtSc Wrote:  I didn't specifically intend to say anything about Trump until it provided a nice prop to open her. She was surprisingly nice and bubbly up until I defended Trump against her racist accusation. Then her whole expression changed, she shutdown, and it was genuine that she couldn't handle an opposing viewpoint.

I know it's sometimes a challenge for intelligent men to put aside our natural tendency to stick up for what we feel is correct (I have the same "problem" sometimes), but things like this will often happen early in the interaction with any young woman and you have to ask yourself:

"Do I want to be right, or do I want to get laid?"

I know which one I'd pick.

Trying to be alpha and "set a woman straight" before you've actually had any kind of sexual relationship with her isn't going to somehow impress her with your "alpha qualities". It's just going to piss her off.

Or if you have a deep yearning to spend your time debating with women, you can always debate with fat girls. There are seemingly always a couple standing around outside any bar or club pontificating on this or that; I tell them they're wrong all the time.

Post: #2577

Thursday I was on approach auto-pilot. I was confident after my date from Tuesday and headed to the gym.

#1: Nerdy Asian Chick with glasses
On the train I spot a cute nerdy looking asian chick with luggage and an open seat. I wait for eye contact before accosting to take the seat. I naturally open about her luggage and new years.

She smiles and confirms that she's visiting her friends for a few days and that her boyfriend is in-town visiting family. We banter a bit about things to do and I recommend a spot she should visit. Her stop comes up and we hug before she parts.

After getting to my stop, I open strangers wishing them a happy new year. Some return it, some just smile.

#2: Tight bodied brunette and blonde girls
At the gym I opened a brunette and her blonde friend about their gallon jug of BCAAs.

They didn't seem to interested in carrying a convo so I resumed stretching. We wished each other a happy new years as they got up to leave.

A funny thing I noticed is that they couldn't schedule an appropriate time to meet with each other. I think one of them said "just text me". Ha, girls are a trip.

#3: Short asian chick with the chest tattoo
I've seen this girl before. On my way out we held eye contact and I wished her a happy new years. She seemed surprised by it for some reason. "Ohh, happy new years!" She went off to the locker room and I made my way out.

#4: Seeming FOB Asian 2-set
We were all waiting at the cross walk when I opened with the new years opener. They smiled and wished me one as well. I banter with them about the plan for the evening, but they got quiet when I mentioned not having any real plans.

We spoke as we crossed the street and surprisingly I was opened by a girl I cold approached back in November. (Pre-selection?) We hugged, I spit the same script, and we parted as she was heading in the opposite direction.

I caught up with the asian girls before our paths split. I didn't have any interest in getting numbers. Just talking to them was cool.

#5: Couple with sexy redhead
They looked like foreigners. An odd couple at that. They were seeming clueless about how to get through the gate and didn't ask for help while I was loading my ticket. I wished them a happy new year and made my way through.

The girl was sexy but I could tell that they'd rather try figuring things out for themselves than involve me in any aspect. I didn't trip.

~=~

On the way home I was hoping there would be attractive girls on the train, but there were none. I felt great regardless. It's been a good week. I'm looking forward to making even more progress into the year.

Post: #2578

I got a girl's digits at a mall yesterday and after getting home I noticed that on my phone there was texting history back from 2013 with the same number. So yeah I didn't realize it while I was talking to her but I actually number closed the girl for the second time. Both times at a mall.

Post: #2579

Don't see any reason why that should matter. Set it up.

Post: #2580

Got on the train today, in the morning.
Walked until I found a spot near a cute nerdy 6. She was ~25 and reading medical material.
Someone was on the phone near by and really loud. I could see she was annoyed.
Opened her with: "You know that there is another one talking? So it's like stereo".
She smiled and complained that this is hard for her to concentrate.
Started conversation, and it seems she was starting to hook.
After 2 minutes she suddenly said: "Oh, this is my stop". Stood quickly and said her name and "BYE".

At least it was a nice conversation.

Post: #2581

I'd like to focus some of the newbies' attention to this great thread to compliment your game:

Analysis of RVF Members' Game

I see some of you guys struggling a bit. It doesn't have to be extremely difficult. Reaching out to other forum members and asking for help and such an analysis can be really good for you. It will also earn yout some reps from senior members.

It's also likely free (or at the very least some drinks); better than paying some PUA thousands of dollars. I think all that some of the members ask as a prerequisite is that you have a burning desire to succeed.

An analysis of yours truly from a little while ago is posted towards the end of the thread.

Special props to Lothario for starting this. I just hate for it to be a forum memory.

Post: #2582

(01-05-2016 07:53 AM)TheMaleBrain Wrote:  Got on the train today, in the morning.
Walked until I found a spot near a cute nerdy 6. She was ~25 and reading medical material.
Someone was on the phone near by and really loud. I could see she was annoyed.
Opened her with: "You know that there is another one talking? So it's like stereo".
She smiled and complained that this is hard for her to concentrate.
Started conversation, and it seems she was starting to hook.
After 2 minutes she suddenly said: "Oh, this is my stop". Stood quickly and said her name and "BYE".

At least it was on a nice conversation.

On public transport you always have to get logistics at the beginning of the conversation. This goes for girls waiting at the bus stop too.

Get that, so you know how much time and when you have to number close. Nice effort on the approach, but without that logistics knowledge all you'll have is nice conversations and blue balls.

Post: #2583

(01-06-2016 08:12 PM)robreke Wrote:  

(01-05-2016 07:53 AM)TheMaleBrain Wrote:  Got on the train today, in the morning.
Walked until I found a spot near a cute nerdy 6. She was ~25 and reading medical material.
Someone was on the phone near by and really loud. I could see she was annoyed.
Opened her with: "You know that there is another one talking? So it's like stereo".
She smiled and complained that this is hard for her to concentrate.
Started conversation, and it seems she was starting to hook.
After 2 minutes she suddenly said: "Oh, this is my stop". Stood quickly and said her name and "BYE".

At least it was on a nice conversation.

On public transport you always have to get logistics at the beginning of the conversation. This goes for girls waiting at the bus stop too.

Get that, so you know how much time and when you have to number close. Nice effort on the approach, but without that logistics knowledge all you'll have is nice conversations and blue balls.

Agreed, but using the DAYBANG model, you need to open first and talk. Logistic is nice but you need to establish the conversation.

Don't worry about blue balls. I run a harem and she might have been a nice addition.

NEXT

Post: #2584

Had jury duty in the miserable-ass morning, but I knew there'd be an opportunity. Scanning the big waiting room, there were several attractive prospects, but figuring out the logistics was the challenge. I honed in on a petite Latina with long hair and dreamy eyes over at a distant row of seats. One of the periodic shuffling around operations provided a chance for me to relocate to the seat next to hers, leaving an empty one in between us. I started up a very light exchange pertaining to the drag of the procedure that brought us there. Very relaxed composure, I'd toss about a few items of bait, of which were almost entirely ignored by her, as she'd subsequently drift back to her phone. A coupla times she'd ask me something about this or that based on what I'd introduced into the chat, but it faded all too easily, as she clearly wasn't into it. The protracted time frame allowed for me to back away and then chip at it later on in the hour. She would never be the one to re-engage, and again, she made virtually no inquisition. Upon hearing of the extended lunch break we'd get, I asked what was a good place to eat around there. She provided some suggestions, as she lived nearby. Next, I subtlety implied a meet by asking if she could show me around the neighborhood, but she responded to that only by brusquely repeating her directions. Nope.

A few rows away, a classic "white girl" was energetically bantering with another woman, and so my reticle was honed thusly. All I had with that one was a sliver of a window as we were all released early, and I blitzed her on the way out, guessing she was a teacher. Yeah, a fucking married teacher.

Post: #2585

I noticed this thread has been pretty dry as of lately so let me see if I can motivate some you guys to get out there and just approach.

I check this thread periodically and get bored at trying to read the walls of text some of you post for basic approaches. I challenge you all to really get serious about approaching and push yourself to the limits and try more direct and aggressive approaches as many of you are playing it safe and trying to avoid rejection. Put your ego's aside and start approaching more bitches just to get some great experiences. You will thank yourself later. I would like to see more people post videos of their approaches as seeing is believing and will greatly help other members more than a long wall of text. Videos show body language and so many other beneficial stuff that you can learn just by reading about approaching. You guys should record yourself doing approaches and then look back it and see where you made mistakes and can make improvements, and where you were successful. Show it to some friends or post it on here for others to critique you.

Here are videos of me doing direct game and indirect game.





So I spot this cute girl walking across the street with her friend and wanted to introduce myself. I did it using direct game through good old cold approach. The moment I open her and tell her I thought she was cute she began blushing and giggling while visibly being flattered by my direct approach to her. So I escalated and initiated hand holding and eventually we started salsa dancing as soon as I found out her major was dance. It was a nice way to maintain physical contact. Everything was going good until the girl's friend was not receptive of my friend who was trying to jump in and wing me by distracting the other girl. I noticed the vibe and energy was changing quick so I hurried up and got her number before the interaction takes a turn. Be Confident, Be Bold and take on the challenge of doing direct approaches when you daygame and nightgame. It gets you results quicker and screens out the girls who are time wasters. Don't be afraid of rejection, embrace it, and learn from it. Remember to always have an abundance mentality, always be replacing not chasing these girls. Strive to Be Outcome Independent Not Dependent. And to be Happy while you Just Approach 1 Day at a Time.





Here is an example of an Indirect Approach I did with this Dancer I met who had an athletic body. She was overall pretty cool to chill with for a bit and dance with but in the end she ended up telling she is dating someone she is very interested and wants to be monogamous. Overall that was one of the nicest rejections I received all night. Oh well just stay having an abundance mentality and always be replacing not chasing these girls. Be happy and Just Approach 1 Day at a Time.

Post: #2586

That second video was awesome. Great to see how you were really building on getting her investing and interested. She was obviously playing along though, considering the very late semi-bf bomb.

Love to see more of these vids!

Post: #2587

Another One!





They don't want you to have the key to success. That's why you gotta keep practicing and practicing like a locksmith until you get the right key.

You should all strive to have that master key.

Post: #2588

@LA_Savage: Delicious thighs on the first girl, she seemed very cool, and you handled the BF-bomb as it should be if it sounds like a serious relationship. Also appreciated the slo-mo to appreciate dat-ass in the background LOL.

Shit, this makes me want to buy a hidden camera and start doing some approaches. Thanks for the inspiration! (Repped already!)

Post: #2589

Echoing topdog on the girl with the thighs. The girl you went direct with was more open than the chick you did the indirect approach on. How often do you run into girls using the boyfriend line?

Post: #2590

What's good bro's. I got more approach videos coming soon.

That first girl with the thighs caught my attention because it was raining earlier and she was wearing a jacket, a scarf, and high top shoes while wearing booty shorts which makes no sense. I just opened her with a simple high five before going direct on her. Glad you caught the slo-mo booty too.

Also I don't use a hidden camera. I just attach my phone to my belt clip/holster and set it to record. It is very visible in plain site right next to my pants zipper.

I run into girls using the boyfriend automated rejection at least 75% of the time. A lot of the times they are lying and just shit-testing you. At first I use to think there was something wrong with me, but then when I heard the same thing happens to a bunch of guys I know in real life, and on a lot of people on the forum I stopped caring if they really did or not since they weren't married. You have to realize that if you don't fuck her, then someone else will. Just don't fall in love with her and be Captain Save a Hoe. After you fuck your first girl that already has a boyfriend you feel guilty and sorry for the other guy. But then when you do it again and again you lose respect for a lot of women and realize these hoes ain't loyal. Being in a college and living at the dorms taught me to never trust these girls and that they will cheat easily with the right guy in the right environment especially if you met them at a party. If only you knew how many girls had long distance boyfriends, boyfriends at work, boyfriends that aren't man enough, boyfriends that were busy, boyfriends that weren't fucking them right, etc... These girls will swear like crazy that they are loyal and never cheat, but they are extremely slutty, while trying to protect their good girl reputation.

I know everybody here has different styles and areas of game that work for them.

But I actually like and prefer direct aggressive game because it filters out girls who waste time very fast. I'm not afraid of rejection and don't want to hide my intentions when approaching girls. Being indirect to me personally is not fun, makes me uncomfortable and feels fake. One of my good friend/wing told me to try it out just to be different for once and try to build up the attraction throughout the indirect interaction. The problem is these girls nowadays have the attention span of a child so everything really happens in the heat of the moment.

Post: #2591

At Target, I lingered around, scopin' for prospects after picking up what item or two I was actually there for. Sided up with a golden-toned Asian at the salad section, inquiring as to which is the best greens mix, leading to an exchange on our respective culinary concoctions. Lead to the standardized "good luck with that" soft-rejection once she had her fill of it, and drifting away.

On the way out, I'll always scan the check out lines for cuties at the register, and finding one here, I breezed on down the line. She mistakenly registered my items with the customer in front of me, and upon correcting here, I tossed a line on how speedily she righted her error. Naturally, this scenario being the most logistically strained, the deal is essentially throwing out a line or two before asking when her shift ends, and how 'bout drinks after. She balked, with an "I dunnoooo", and "I gotta go home after". Went after it, and walked on just fine.

Post: #2592

Savage makes a good point. Mess O. from what I've read, your approaches are mostly indirect. Perhaps if you were more direct and forward before going for the number, the girls in question would know that you don't bs about what you want.

I've tried direct and indirect and have got numbers from both but that was back when my texting was utter shite. Always awesome reading these logs though. Hopefully I have some of my own to share soon.

Post: #2593

Savage, I can attest to the slutty college girls being super shady. I have gotten with a few infact im pretty sure the last 3 i have hooked up have either had a bf or someone they were exclusive too, i guess that makes me an asshole but it is what it is. The thing is i dont usually find out about the other guy until its all over with which makes me decide on not getting a girlfriend in this town.

Post: #2594

(01-09-2016 05:31 PM)LA Savage Wrote:  Another One!





They don't want you to have the key to success. That's why you gotta keep practicing and practicing like a locksmith until you get the right key.

You should all strive to have that master key.

Props for approaching and posting vids LA.

My 2 cents is this: You're asking way too many questions. That's all you're doing and even doing this the girl is giving decent feedback.

Try much less questions and do more statements. Instead of something like: are you a student, look at her and say slowly : "I think you're probably a junior or senior"

If she says she works somewhere say " hmmm, I'm going to say you're in some kind of service field...you look like you help people"

In other words, cold reads. More statements, less questions result in generally better results and keep the girl from thinking she's getting grilled.

Post: #2595

(01-09-2016 05:31 PM)LA Savage Wrote:  Another One!





They don't want you to have the key to success. That's why you gotta keep practicing and practicing like a locksmith until you get the right key.

You should all strive to have that master key.

Although I appreciate the DJ Khaled references, weren't you banned a while back?

Post: #2596

I am on a roll with this Salsa Dancing stuff.

Today me and a good friend of mine headed to the outdoor mall near the beach. The evening started off pretty slow. A couple or rejections here and there a few good interactions nothing major. Then we headed towards the fall side of the mall and discovered that they are doing this thing called Salsa Sundays which this girl told me has been going on for a quite a while now.

I took this as an opportunity to approach some girls to see if they want to dance and to practice my salsa dancing skills. It's actually harder than it looks. But it's a great way to flirt and escalate with a girl through hand holding, spinning, close body contact, looking each other directly in the eyes, etc...

The first girl that I asked told me she was a horrible dancer and didn't want to dance. The next girl I asked was down to dance and we had a fun time.

Here's the video for motivation for you all to get out there and just approach.





Rather than reading threads all day about people doing cool things, or talking to girls online, you can actually be with a girl face to face and practice your game. I don't just post these videos to show my credibility that I don't just talk about doing stuff. I actually get out there and do it and post these videos to inspire you guys to do the same. For quite sometime I have been posting, and pm'ing people who are in Los Angeles to come out and approach with me. Only a few have taken me up on this offer and when they did things were pretty cool.
I challenge more people to visit the meet up section and meet up with more members so they can actually practice gaming with their fellow members. We can all help each other out in one way or another.


Lately I noticed around the forum their has been a trend where some members around the forum posting things various stories, advice, lay reports, approach logs, travel info, etc.. without evidence. These people are then getting put on a pedestal as if they are legends in the game and their writings have not been subject to much critique. You all should be skeptical of a lot of the things you read on these forums and not take everything as 100% truth. Other members have noticed this trend as well and when they have called out other members, they are then attacked by fanboys of the member in question. I'm just writing this as I feel it's an important issue that other members on this forum have brought up, but keeps getting swept under the rug.

Post: #2597

(01-10-2016 09:04 PM)robreke Wrote:  Props for approaching and posting vids LA.

My 2 cents is this: You're asking way too many questions. That's all you're doing and even doing this the girl is giving decent feedback.

Try much less questions and do more statements. Instead of something like: are you a student, look at her and say slowly : "I think you're probably a junior or senior"

If she says she works somewhere say " hmmm, I'm going to say you're in some kind of service field...you look like you help people"

In other words, cold reads. More statements, less questions result in generally better results and keep the girl from thinking she's getting grilled.

I'm not used to running that type of game as it's not my style. I am a very curios person and enjoy asking questions and getting to know people. I have not trained to pretend to guess things about people in that manner.

Can you please post a video example of you or someone on youtube doing this so that I can go out and film an infield video trying your method. Any members wanting to join me in approaching please let me know. Thanks.

(01-10-2016 09:39 PM)redbeard Wrote:  Although I appreciate the DJ Khaled references, weren't you banned a while back?

There was an issue in the past where they thought I was so type of pick up artist and trying to market my material on here.

I even emailed a moderator before hand just to let them know and got no response.

I found it alarming that so many people were posting things on here without evidence and felt that a lot of the newbies and other members can benefit from watching real infield footage from a fellow active member.

I'm just another guy on here doing approaches. I'm not selling anything or marketing stuff.

I've met up with several members on here and they can vouch for me that I'm legit and just having fun doing daygame and nightgame like everybody else.

I'm trying to inspire and motivate others to get out there and Just Approach rather than reading and watching videos about others doing it all day long.

They don't want you to win. So we gonna Win Big!!!

We The Best!!!

Post: #2598

@Savage lookup Tayisepic on youtube. His style is sort of the one robreke is referring to.

Post: #2599

(01-11-2016 04:13 AM)~wrIghter~ Wrote:  @Savage lookup Tayisepic on youtube. His style is sort of the one robreke is referring to.

Bro I've met Tay several times in Hollywood approaching on the Boulevard and I've seen him a few times on campus. He is a cool energetic guy and is extremely dedicated to the game while having fun. As of right now I have nothing but positive things to say about him. He is really putting himself out there trying to help others learn game.

It's nice to see a fellow brother having great success in the game.

I was introduced to him through a mutual friend who is into approaching as well. I watched him opened a couple of girls, I opened a set of Swedish girls for him and his friends, I approached with one of his friends as well, etc... He is a very patient guy and consistently has a positive happy mood going on. It's like he is never disappointed, upset, down etc... I wish him great success in the future.

Post: #2600

(12-15-2015 05:40 PM)Feldeinsamkeit Wrote:  what percentage women can I reasonably expect to have a boyfriend when doing random daygame approaches?

When your game sucks.. They all have a boyfriend

When your game is good.. They are all single.

It's just a funny generalization but its based in truth.

When I was a beginner, I heard -- "sorry, I have a boyfriend", all the time.

As my game gets better and better, I'm hearing it less.