(11-24-2015 03:00 PM)Libertas Wrote: I'm not entirely sure, but I'm hearing that the "refugees" are now "protesting" in Macedonia, because they are starting to control their border (I said they began building a fence the other day), and that anyone that can't prove they're from a war-torn region is not being allowed through.
True, the Iranians specifically are sewing their mouths shut and going on hunger strike. Seems the Macedonians are refusing to let anyone through unless there is actually war in their home countries.
(11-24-2015 03:00 PM)Libertas Wrote: I'm not entirely sure, but I'm hearing that the "refugees" are now "protesting" in Macedonia, because they are starting to control their border (I said they began building a fence the other day), and that anyone that can't prove they're from a war-torn region is not being allowed through.
I'm remember reading a report from Austria a few weeks ago. Refugees were protesting because they didn't like the Austrian apples they were given for free. Gave them diarrhea or something. So they complained - what else...
I live to see the day when those goatfuckers finally have something real to protest about. Like mass deportation, borders shut close for the next few decades, no more aid coming from Europe after having exhausted all empathy due to countless terrorist attacks and acts of crime.
(11-24-2015 04:53 AM)LE50 Wrote: Not that I don't believe you, but how do you know r/Europe has gone right?
I know /r/European pretty well and they post about them constantly and what got them banned there etc.
Has /r/Europe stopped banning everyone who doesn't fully agree?
Also I'm noticing that the screws on the positive immigrant image in Germany media are being loosened. It's starting with actual open debates, politicians openly disagreeing and now the Jews coming out of the woodwork.
This is conspiracy talk again, but to me it seems very much planned. As if the Jews out of all people had needed to wait for 2 years and 2 million muslim, arab and african invaders before they thought of the implications. If he is a person who actually cares about his people, he has been wanting to say this for years but was kept silent. If not, then this is just the time he picked to sway public opinion. After all, who do we Germans want to please the most?
"Let's do it for the Jews" is the perfect excuse for leftists to give up on their endeavor without looking like fools.
And in the end, no matter what happens, it will look as if the public had decided.
Apologism for burning down refugee centers was a good metric.
And in general the top comments of relevant posts are either anti-refugee, anti-immigration, and/or anti-islam.
People who dissent get thumbed down quite a bit or ignored
ISIS just released a new Hollywood trailer with a production-value of approximately 1.4 million USD. Seems like they know how to make use of all that oil money. I predict that when the war is over, “Islamic State Productions” will be up there with Warner Bros. and 20th Century Fox putting out blockbusters like its all they ever did. This whole terror-scheme is obviously just PR to get their name out there. You know what they say - there is no bad publicity: http://heavy.com/news/2015/11/new-isis-i...ube-daesh/
Swedish comment translated: Wondering when you see a politician cry over our own homeless mistreated , that young people do not get a place to stay , the elderly will be served cold food because savings. Our politicians have played citizen of the world for decades instead of caring about or represent those who elected them . The high immigration is always the number one priority for the parties , then call the SD a Single-issue politics
"We have had some tough internal debates in my party about the reality"
Holy wow - about realty?? You don't say. That's a first amongst your kind. When did you decide that reality was all of a sudden more important than your ideology of doom?
Damn Sweden must be really close to collapsing. Inb4 she gets called a fascist/racist by other SJWs. Almost makes me feel good about being trapped in Cuckmany. It's going to be interesting to see which of our two countries falls first. I'm gonna put my money on Sweden though. They just missed their chance to vote themselves out of it while the right in Germany can gain supporters till the end of 2017. My body is ready.
(11-24-2015 06:24 PM)nomadbrah Wrote: Crying women representing your government, not a good look, time to withdraw playing politician priviledges.
True. But look at it this way: would you rather have a crying woman representing your country or a dying woman?
This old hag is in control of the future of my people. Her physical appearance is representative of the current state of my country and she's dragging all of us with her into the grave.
(11-24-2015 05:52 PM)Requiem Wrote: ISIS just released a new Hollywood trailer with a production-value of approximately 1.4 million USD. Seems like they know how to make use of all that oil money. I predict that when the war is over, “Islamic State Productions” will be up there with Warner Bros. and 20th Century Fox putting out blockbusters like its all they ever did. This whole terror-scheme is obviously just PR to get their name out there. You know what they say - there is no bad publicity: http://heavy.com/news/2015/11/new-isis-i...ube-daesh/
I had to laugh in the opening sequence:
"... fornicators,..." (close up on Bill Clinton)
Like Mark Steyn keeps saying, these guys are way more adept at social media than 'the smartest administration ever in the White House'.
(11-24-2015 05:52 PM)Requiem Wrote: ISIS just released a new Hollywood trailer with a production-value of approximately 1.4 million USD. Seems like they know how to make use of all that oil money. I predict that when the war is over, “Islamic State Productions” will be up there with Warner Bros. and 20th Century Fox putting out blockbusters like its all they ever did. This whole terror-scheme is obviously just PR to get their name out there. You know what they say - there is no bad publicity: http://heavy.com/news/2015/11/new-isis-i...ube-daesh/
Damn, that is better production quality than any US military advertising I've ever seen. In fact if Daesh ran commercials on TV in the US with these production values they would probably get a significant amount of new recruits that could rival the recruitment levels for the US military.
"We have had some tough internal debates in my party about the reality"
Holy wow - about realty?? You don't say. That's a first amongst your kind. When did you decide that reality was all of a sudden more important than your ideology of doom?
Leader of the Green Party is crying her eyes out when she announces that Sweden is basically full and they need to start tightening their immigration policy. English subtitles available.
Quote:Mrs Jellyby and 'Telescopic philanthropy'
Mrs. Jellyby, satiric character in the novel Bleak House (1852–53) by Charles Dickens, one of his memorable caricatures. Matronly Mrs. Jellyby is a philanthropist who devotes her time and energy to setting up a mission in Africa while ignoring the needy in her own family and neighbourhood.
Northern Europe is riddled with these type of women but unlike Dickens' day, these women have been affirmative actioned into power.
It is not just her. Look at the contrite ashen expression of the 'prime' minister! You'd think the flower of Swedish maidenhood had been carried off into captivity.
(11-24-2015 06:01 PM)kaotic Wrote: Hate to say that's pretty damn well made propaganda video. Not sure if it's 1.4 million worth.
Stats used are skewed.
"Bring it on?"
Someone soon will make you eat those words.
Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised. The West is a powder keg right now and I can't see any good future for Muslims in the West. A few more mass-terrorist attacks throughout Europe, Russia, and the USA and this might explode.
Hate speech laws only work if few people are doing it. Once everyone drops the facade of law and order, there'll be modern Adolf Hitlers giving speeches in every beer hall and platz across Germany. If history has proven anything, it's that once the genocidal ball is rolling, no matter where it takes place, it takes a hell of a lot to stop it. Unfortunately for the Muslims in Europe, it doesn't look like Russia or the USA will be itching to stop it this time.
Before everyone jumps to conclusions: The hidden lurking problem within Germany is that over the past 20 years any opposing views/positions/parties have been effectively muffled (Maulkorb in German) and in recent years violently suppressed. So what is going on right now is that the country to the outside appears like a Liberal Utopia, but between the surface there is a large and growing percentage of people who is categorically opposed to unmitigated immigration and open border policies as instigated by Merkel and her ilk. It's a veritable pressure cooker that's developing and when it explodes it's bound to get pretty ugly as the remainder of the world will most likely jump to conclusions and assume that Hitler's somehow come back from the grave.
The best thing that Germany's leaders can do right now is to reign in the extreme left and pursue a more centrist and productive course (the coalition partners are pushing [see Seehofer and CSU] but Merkel remains stubborn). Clearly there are huge problems to be addressed - even if Germany would effectively seal its borders tomorrow it is still sitting on hundreds of thousands of largely illiterate or unemployable migrants. It's also safe to say that at least several thousands of them are either ISIS agents or at minimum avid sympathizers who could quickly be radicalized (and by radicalized I mean convinced/willing to commit acts of violence/terror/crime within Europe's borders).
Of course we all know that won't happen and given the stoic nature of the Germans we may see many more months and perhaps another year or two of the current ill-conceived open arms policy. The guilt trip imposed on the Germans knows no bottom - even today I see at least half a dozen Nazi themed documentaries when I pop open my Netflix home page. If you grow up as a German you have no idea how shitty that feels, but since we're on a red-pill forum you may draw parallels to what has happened via the 'white guilt' movement in the U.S. and in part also in Western Europe. Now amplify this by about ten and you get an idea of the national confusion and guilt every German carries with him/her from birth. Perhaps this is why these days many of the younger generation choose to jump on the nihilistic no-borders bandwagon. Which was easily exploited by political leaders under the thumb of the NWO elite.
So here's what I think will happen: If we see more terrorist attacks in the coming few months then this would actually play against ISIS as it would give enough credence to the 'unpopular silent/suppressed center' (called the far right in Germany which is ridiculous - there are relatively few of them). For this to happen it would take a large event in German or Austria perhaps - we're talking Paris type attacks with AK-47s and/or explosives, perhaps something worse. Especially during Christmas this would produce the intended effect - push the left into an untenable political position and force the hands of Merkel. Make no mistake - this is all about Merkel right now - even her coalition partners are horrified and are begging her to at least agree to a quote of half a million migrants per year. Which of course would not fix the problem at all.
So the worst thing that can happen right now to German is exactly nothing over the next few months. A quiet Christmas and a stem of the flow of migrants due to the bad/cold winter weather in Northern Europe. People are lemmings and they quickly forget. And then next year in spring things would continue exactly where they left off in October/November. More migrants starting March/April and eventually more terrorist attacks, more crime, more rapes - most of which barely gets reported within Germany. That would eventually produce conditions where things could spiral out of control and the proverbial pressure cooker may explode. We are talking active resistance and more people joining the far right - not the peaceful PEGIDA movement but the far right groups which is almost non-existent now. The right will never gain a majority in Germany in our lifetime (even the centrist/right AfD only gets about 10%) but they may attract enough right wingers to start hitting the streets and to actively confront ISIS fuckers as well as regular migrants on German turf. That is exactly what ISIS wants - a confrontation and a spark to instigate a civil war, which they think they will win. They assume that Germany will bow out of a fight after a few years - like the U.S. did in Iraq. Which is a huge miscalculation on the part of ISIS for they don't know/understand the Germans and think them to be weak.
I know the Germans and they aren't easily pushed into a war. But if you are unlucky to find yourself on the receiving end of their ire, better watch out. The Muzzies have a distorted view of the Germans right now based on a coddled generation of wuzzies (verweichlichte Generation they call it in German). But IF they want a nasty war to the last man - apart from the Russians they could not have picked a worse enemy than the Germans. Because once the Germans get going they do not stop unless either they are forced or until the enemy has been completely decimated.
So this is pretty much the game here. If Merkel does nothing - which is a game she has perfected over her 10 year tenure then Germany is going to find itself in a civil war by 2019 at the latest. The next national elections are in 2018 and the right will never win that one - the left is going to do a Houellebecq style closing of the ranks and prevent them from being in the majority, just like it was predicted in Houellebecq's Soumission. After that, realizing that they'll be marginalized for yet another four years, the centrists and right groups will align and attempt to address the problem with force.
Right now today the attitude among German politicians can best be described as: 'Nach uns die Sintflut.'
@redpillage fascinating post, thanks for that.
You seem to have a good handle on the German mindset and some knowledge of the German language too.
Just for those who don't speak the language, the last phrase you referred translates to: "it doesn't matter what happens when I've/we've gone" ('Nach uns die Sintflut')
That really does sum up the attitude of many people I know from Germany, Nederlands, Belgium, Sweden, Austria, etc (although they would never admit to it!)
So long as they can perpetuate the "We're all one big happy family, yay!" narrative, then they'll get props from their friends on social media and be seen to be tolerant and open minded.
Most liberals I know are not outright SJWs but they're still largely impervious to rational thought on this matter (and some other issues like climate change/global warming where they believe the propaganda 100% with almost zero tolerance for opposing views)
That said, I don't want to go full nuclear on these people in my extended social circle, they're generally decent people, just misguided, misinformed and somewhat naïve.
They're firmly in the r-selected camp and there's not much that can be done to change that, barring an act of violence on them or a loved one by a migrant.
(11-25-2015 01:29 PM)amity Wrote: @redpillage fascinating post, thanks for that.
You seem to have a good handle on the German mindset and some knowledge of the German language too.
Just for those who don't speak the language, the last phrase you referred translates to: "it doesn't matter what happens when I've/we've gone" ('Nach uns die Sintflut')
A more accurate translation would be the more literal 'After us the flood.' - of course your interpretation is bang on.
(11-25-2015 01:29 PM)amity Wrote: That really does sum up the attitude of many people I know from Germany, Nederlands, Belgium, Sweden, Austria, etc (although they would never admit to it!)
So long as they can perpetuate the "We're all one big happy family, yay!" narrative, then they'll get props from their friends on social media and be seen to be tolerant and open minded.
Don't worry mate, in a few years we'll hopefully see a few new FB status settings for Europeans:
Being stoned to death.
Gang raped by 'Asian' neighbors.
Thrown off roof nearby for looking gay.
At the hospital having knife extracted from kidney.
I don't know where to put this so I will put it there: basically a famously scandaleous french canadian journalist explaining basically what is the left and what is the right...I hope anybody can read french